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    The comments were funny. I had to look through the photographs to check out the storage. I mean the comments kept mentioning a big chest but I never saw it!!

    It is a bit like a homemade version of the smaller citizen van coversion in the campervan convertor compay I linked to earlier.

    Just been checking out Direct Campers. Seriously nice looking campers. However is it just me or are the various converters all just using the same furniture? A lot of coversions seem to be close to each other. A popular one seems to be a kind of grey fleck board.

    I can't decide what style of conversion is a good option. Family of 3 so we're taling 2 up in the roof and two below. A lot of the side conversions and all the other styles excet perhaps the rear conversion seem to have the rear seats so far back. We have a young child so sitting on his own back there isn;t good. Are there any designs where the seat can be moved forward for travelling? What would your choice be in my situation?

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    I think the big chest was close to the bed. He must keep his tools there.

    I was surprized about his spending, I thought it would cost more to build. Quite a large van. Plenty of space, even with a large chest inside it!

    I would orefer ti have my children close by too. One solution is to jake the rear seats either on a svivel base if single seats, or with a tipping rear so it can ge tipped so you can be sitting facing back.
    Svivelling single car seats are easier to make though.

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    You can get swivel bases for the passenger bench of vivaro/trafic vans really quite cheaply, about 80 last time I looked. The thing I never quite worked out is how they fit past the central island between passenger seats and driver's seat? In my mind I'd think the front of the seats would catch on this central island. It obviously doesn't but I'd need to see it first to completely believe it. Funny how you get ideas into your head and can't shake them sometimes.

    Does anyone know if the ford Freda has ever been sold as a UK spec van? I know it's made by Mazda and it's basically a bongo. I just thought that if Ford ever released it here then main Ford dealers might support imported Ford fredas and similarly bongos since they're basically the same. Clutching at straws I guess.

    It seems to me that the other Japanese import vans have as a base the mechanicals of UK sold vehicles as I understand it. The highly popular bongo does not AFAIK. It might not be an issue with the increasing number of bongo specialist campervan garages that are about. Also I know a at least two campervan specialists near me that have or often do sell Mazda bongos that I reckon would support owners.

    It's just being without your main vehicle could be an issue for many. Not for us because we could get by for some time without any car or van. We can cycle to work, our child can walk a block or two to get to school, every work trips would provide public transport tickets or hire car or we'd go with a car owning colleague anyway. We could just wait for the imported parts if anything went wrong. Although I reckon they're more reliable than our SEAT car.

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    Looks useful. Likely to be Previa parts?
    https://www.gumtree.com/p/campervans...on-/1265980255

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    Bought a 94 Mitsubishi Delica in 2010 for 2500.00 from a private seller on Autotrader. Still our only car. Currently insured by Direct Line. If it failed the only thing that would make me think twice about getting another is the Low Emmission Zone being rolled out in London (as far as the South Circular) in a a couple of years. I've seen similar on Autotracer for 1000.00.

    Fix list over seven years. Timing Chain replaced. Fuel Pump seal replaced. Front Shocks. Front Suspension Wishbone. Rear Brake Diss, Rear Roll bar rubber sockets. Plus the usual Brake Pads, Tyres and Wipers etc.

    The most expensive bit was insurance until I got a quote from direct line.

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    I emailed my local Mitsubishi dealership to ask if they would service a Japanese import van like a delicate. They emailed back with an abrupt but friendly yes, we service Mitsubishi delica imports. Good enough for me because they're not an expensive garage to get a car fixed at. Good rep service garage in the area.,

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    Is the Delica not a bit to small to redo to a camper?

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    I don't really know, I assumed it was the same size as a bongo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swallow View Post
    the only thing that would make me think twice about getting another is the Low Emmission Zone being rolled out in London (as far as the South Circular) in a a couple of years.
    See my posting a bit further down, about the emissions zone, on my Jap import landRover.
    Have you checked your V5 document. If those emissions boxes are empty, you may be able to sneak in under the radar.
    Try putting your reg into their online 'is my car exempt' tool. (If you have not already done so.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_B View Post
    I don't really know, I assumed it was the same size as a bongo.
    Internet says the Mitsu. Delica is a 4th gen Bongo.

    But those afe pretty small?

    What do you plan to fit inside?

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    It's no smaller than the vw vans you see in campervan mode all over. It's a van size you can get 4 into if needed and still small enough to replace a car day to day.

    Not big enough for some but despite being 6'5" tall I'm ok with the vw sized vans. I've tried one out at a dealership. Mind you, I come from backpacking with a bivvy bag. I'm not difficult to please when it comes to sleeping. Anywhere will do. From a cowshed by by the side of the road in Wales when we couldn't find the campsite late in the night to a damp island in a boggy fell. To a mountain top in 70mph gusts in a bivvy under a tiny tarp. With earplugs I can sleep anywhere and through anything... Well pretty much.


    Anyway, from what I can tell the bongo, Mitsubishi delica, the Nissan and Toyota vans (elgrand and alphard) and even the various vw vans are all pretty similar in sizes. IMHO above them you're edging more into motorhome territory and away from everyday vehicle with van camping ability.

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    A 1994 onwards Delica is not Bongo based. It is based on a Mitsubishi Shogan Chassis. It's a full proper 4 x 4 and shares parts with the Shogun.

    The new ones introduced in the past couple of years are based on an Outlander Chassis (and look more like an outlander estate car than a Renault Espace Monster Truck).


    One of the downsides I forgot to mention about a Delica is that it is 6' 10' tall so if you encounter a car park with with 6' 6" height restriction you can't use it. A mate had one and sold it because he couldn't part anywhere with it.

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    The way the seats fold away on an 8 seater 6' 5" should be a problem, but driving position might. They are not built for a 6 foot plus driver.

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    With most seats having height adjustment I'm pretty confident I'll fit OK. I've experience in adjusting seat position to fit cars. Not that many really fit well anyway. Bear in mind I passed my driving test in a mini, original design mini that really was, well mini! Followed by Fiesta, escort, Astra and seat althea xl. Only the last one had head room high enough.

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    My 94 doesn't height adjust (or else there is a lever I have yet to find) and I'm at the limit at 6' 0". The most headroom I have had was in a mini. When I was younger there were a few 6 Ft plus people who drove them for headroom.

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    Just a thought - the buying price and conversion cost is about the same for a smaller vs a bit larger van, so why not go for a larger one/
    I used to have a Defender 110 and wife a Defender 90. Felt the same driving, parking.

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    Buying an actual van also gives the options of a "Stealth" camper van. i.e. you park anywhere because it looks like a normal van from the outside.

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