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    Yesterday, I managed the most irritating injury. I somehow got a splinter stuck under my left 'attitude finger', just under the nail. A long one. it is too, it goes 3/4 of the way to the cuticle.
    And it broke just inside the soft tissue....
    No infection yet.

    I really should use gloves, but it is impossible to teach an old dog new tricks, as they say!
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    Oof the cringe place!

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    Do you have magsulph paste Janne ? that'll draw out the remainder of the 'splinter', or take a bar of soap and shred up a little bit (scrape it with a knife) and add the same amount of sugar to it. Mash the two together and pack it around your nail, wrap it up in a thick elastoplast and leave it overnight if you can. That works to draw out the debris too.

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    p.s. found an Australian lady on youtube demonstrating just how to make this
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    Yes, the 'bad' place. Will try the remedy tonight.
    The funny bit it it does not hurt much. Seems to be lodged exactly between the nail and the nailbed.
    ( is it called nailbed?)

    If the Remedy does not work I will cut open the nail just above the splinter at the end and remove it that way. My work drills are good for more than teeth!
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    It's a horrible place to get a skelf/splinter.
    I think I'd try to avoid cutting there if I could, but you know your tools best.
    I do know that the soap and sugar works very well on most things that get trapped in the skin, not sure how it'd do through nails though.

    Either way it sounds like it could be painful if it goes septic. Best of luck with it; I hate it when my hands are sore like that.

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    I wouldn't bother with the paste; splinters from pressure treated timber will generate a fair amount of pus pretty quickly and that will push the splinter out. If the pressure gets too much under your fingernail, melt a hole through with a heated needle.

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    Magnesium sulphate paste as first recommended by Toddy.
    Sold at most chemists /pharmacies.
    Works a treat .
    I carry a little pot in the glove box for the splinters that I can't cut out with a Stanley ...

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    It is weird. No throbbing, no inflammation. I can see the splinter very clearly. It must have slid exactly between the fleash and nail.
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    Are you sure it's still in there ? and you're not just seeing the blood track of where it went in and was pulled out ?
    That can happen, especially under nails where it's tight quarters.

    Pleased to hear that it's not bothering you though

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    I can see the wood, also it is tender when ai press on yhe nail. Whrn I come home I will do some surgery and take it out.

    The last time I used my work tools I emptied a large blood pool under another nail, on my left toe. Hammer damage. Dropped it. When I went through the nail ( used a small round diamond bur and high speed drill ( 400 000 rpm) my assistsnt almost fainted when she saw the blood spurting out.
    Was spectacular!
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    you know the rules.........photos or it didn't happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robbi View Post
    you know the rules.........photos or it didn't happen.
    +1 to that..

    Rules are rules Janne...
    😁

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    Photobucket was the provider I used in the past, but I will not get blackmailed!

    It did happen unfortunately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Janne View Post
    I can see the wood, also it is tender when ai press on yhe nail. Whrn I come home I will do some surgery and take it out.

    The last time I used my work tools I emptied a large blood pool under another nail, on my left toe. Hammer damage. Dropped it. When I went through the nail ( used a small round diamond bur and high speed drill ( 400 000 rpm) my assistsnt almost fainted when she saw the blood spurting out.
    Was spectacular!
    LOL brings back vivid memories. exactly 20 years ago (approximately), I pinched my thumb in a pallet recycling machine, it was like a tom and jerry cartoon HUGE black swelling. I went to casualty, 2 nurses held my arm down on a table then they used like a soldering iron to burn a hole through the nail, hey presto black blood escaped, pressure relieved
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    [QUOTE=mr dazzler;1824744]
    , 2 nurses held my arm down on a table then they used like a soldering iron to burn a hole through the nail, hey presto black blood escaped, pressure relieved[/QUOTExxxxxxxxxxx
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    On a far less impressive note. Bizarrely this evening I turned on the kitchen tap and sliced my finger. Turns out the chroming has lifted and created a razor sharp edge. Who knew it could do that?

    Anyway Ive filed it down now.

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    Well, it is out. Cut a v notch over it, and fished it out with a suturing needle.

    About 5mm long, 0.5 to 1 mm wide.

    Modern chroming can do that, it is crap. I have rechromed loads of car and bike parts. Has to be done the proper way. Copper first, then nickel, chrome on top.

    Not easy to find somebody that does it that way these days. Apparently some of the stuff is toxic.
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    I'm cringing here.
    I hope it heals quickly for you.

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    I am lucky, I heal quick. Before wearing gloves at work I will use some neutral nail lacquer ( polish) to seal it. 'Glove juice' is nasty.
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    The idea of cutting a hole in my nail just makes me feel weak. Nevermind actually doing it.

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    The first time is the worst.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Janne View Post
    Well, it is out. Cut a v notch over it, and fished it out with a suturing needle.

    About 5mm long, 0.5 to 1 mm wide.


    Modern chroming can do that, it is crap. I have rechromed loads of car and bike parts. Has to be done the proper way. Copper first, then nickel, chrome on top.

    Not easy to find somebody that does it that way these days. Apparently some of the stuff is toxic.
    Degrease first, then polish the metal, then copper plate, polish, degrease, bright nickel plate, polish, degrease, chrome finish. Its the polishing that is the secret, that and thorough degrease each time. I can still here the gaffer from Holmes plating (Greenwich SE5) "thats no farkin good, its SHOWING NICKEL MATE, showing NICKEL" We did mostly MoD work aircraft and tank parts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamPan View Post
    On a far less impressive note. Bizarrely this evening I turned on the kitchen tap and sliced my finger. Turns out the chroming has lifted and created a razor sharp edge. Who knew it could do that?

    Anyway Ive filed it down now.
    Is that your finger or your tap you filed down?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr dazzler View Post
    Degrease first, then polish the metal, then copper plate, polish, degrease, bright nickel plate, polish, degrease, chrome finish. Its the polishing that is the secret, that and thorough degrease each time. I can still here the gaffer from Holmes plating (Greenwich SE5) "thats no farkin good, its SHOWING NICKEL MATE, showing NICKEL" We did mostly MoD work aircraft and tank parts.
    Can you still find somebody in UK that does a 100% job?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Janne View Post
    Can you still find somebody in UK that does a 100% job?
    Yes, but it tends to cost more. I work in aerospace too and while there are sometimes some parts that go wrong, the vast majority come in to us to spec. As for chrome plate, decorative chrome plating will be banned in the EU come September this year. Performance related hard chrome has a 7 year grace before it too is up for banning. Its only a matter of time before the rest of the world follows suit.
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    Chromium is horrendously polluting. It causes feminization of the creatures at the bottom end of the food chain. It disrupts/ destroys entire ecosystems.
    Natural dyers have have been complaining about it's use in commercial dyes for years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C_Claycomb View Post
    As for chrome plate, decorative chrome plating will be banned in the EU come September this year. Performance related hard chrome has a 7 year grace before it too is up for banning. Its only a matter of time before the rest of the world follows suit.
    What will those geniuses at brussles impose on the industry (which I no longer have any connection with) instead of hard chrome? LOL we used a micrometer to check how much was on for some parts. Its the best solution for corrosion and wear resistant parts eg on hospital equipment. But the eu know what they are doing, the eco light bulb fiasco proves it

    I got me some TAMA cymbal stands and a hi hat stand a while back. they are supposed to be among the best. Yet in no time the chrome was flaking off in sheets (pretty much as the OP described on their tap) It looked like there was brass underneath, but whatever it is a "very poor" job. Yet you can get a vintage yamaha that doesnt peel and the chrome is still reasonable......
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    That is why there has been a 7 year extension recommended by the European Chemical Agency for the use of performance related chromates, because substitutes are so hard to do. Actually though, hard chrome is one of the easier things to replace, provided the application isn't temperature sensitive. Problem if you need it to be applied below 160degC though. Chromate conversion coating of aluminium is a bigger challenge and it is only in the last couple of years that there has been any real progress in alternatives

    Sorry for the hijack and off topic.

    Glad to hear that the splinter was removed, although the method makes my stomach turn over. I managed to get a huge splinter driven into my little toe, dang thing was lodged in my trouser turn up when I put them on. Went to the local cottage hospital thinking they could just spray something to numb the area and have it out...apparently they are not permitted to use such things, so the best they could do was give me a really pointy pair of tweezers and wish me luck. I had the fun job of removing it myself, but at least I was able to numb it somewhat with repeated applications of 15 year old Anbesol. I don't like splinters!
    "If you can keep your head, while those around you are losing theirs, you may not have grasped the seriousness of the situation."

    “Of all tyrannies, one sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies, for those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience...”
    paraphrased C.S. Lewis.

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    Chrome;
    Once these regulations have been implemented, I wonder what the restoration businesses (of cars, bikes, boats) will do?
    No 'chrome paint' looks decent!

    splinter: Yes, they are a pain. I am surprised they could not help you. No doctor working there?

    Toes and fingers are easy to get numb. A few drops of anesthetic ( no vaso constrictor) and they can work!

    I managed to get a 4x2, 4.5 meters long, on my head from about two meters high. Many years ago. After my son found me they took me to the hospital in Crowborough. I bled like a pig. I was out for about 10 minutes. Laws was full of my blood where I had fallen.
    The nurse wanted to numb the scalp before they stitched. I declined. As the injections hurts just as much as the suturing. The doc that sutured me was close to fainting. His hands shook. I am good with pain, except on my nose and inside my mouth.
    17 stitches. Nice scar. Once I lose my hair I will change my last name for Scarhead.
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    outstanding.

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