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    Good morning fellow tree sleepers,

    The photo below is of my DD Superlight Jungle Hammock with additional DD Jungle Hammock tarp over the top, and the included one removed (would hang it beneath if the weather had required it).

    This photo was taken the morning after the night before (my first night ever using a hammock) with yours truly asleep within, having set it up in the dark (as was required by the site).

    I felt comfortable inside it, certainly superior to lying on my camping mats, but having not tried any other hammock it could have been uncomfortable, as it looks extremely bowed, like I'm lying in the crook of a crescent moon.

    Those trees were circa five yards apart (but looking now, I may have paced from the base of the trees rather than taking into account the trees' curvature) and I had the whoopie slings as short as they'd go. I wrapped the tree huggers with the foot end quite​ a bit higher than the head end (30 seemed to be the suggestion) and the hammock is a combination of gathered end/hooped thing, so diagonal lying didn't seem to be an option when I was inside it.

    What did I do wrong?

    Last edited by hughtrimble; 19-05-2017 at 01:29.

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    I've found my hammock is most comfortable when it's a straight line when you hang it. I would lower your ropes but make them shorter for these trees. Ideally I would find trees that were a bit further apart. I use the ticket to the moon hammock system though. So it's very easy to adjust to different distances.

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    The only thing maybe would be trees a bit further apart, the hang looks about right but it's personal choice, not sure on the length of the superlight but its possibly too short to get a proper diagonal lay, I'm weird in that I can steep just fine in my superlight hammock when on my back, side or sometimes front, you'll just have to experiment with different set ups.

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    I still use the supplied tree huggers with my DD so have the ability to have the end of the hammock as close (or far) as I wish. I would have had the huggers much lower down but very tight, I do not find the 30 degree thing that comfy. My daughter has commented in the past about how far down the bottom of my hammock is. I try to get it so my hammock hanging just above my buttocks so its a little effort to get in but gives good clearance below. Also my ( separate ) Tarp ridge line is way higher than my hammock line. In short I try more for a 10 degree than 30 degree hang.

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    I don't think that's too bad an effort. As mentioned, you'd probably benefit from a pitch where the trees are a bit further apart, as you said the trees are leaning into each other so they'll be closer than you think. I'd probably have my hammock set-up with a little less sag than that, 30 degrees is generally what you want to aim for. You can easily adjust that sag by playing around with your whoppie suspension.

    You're quite right to have the head end lower than your feet, stops you sinking into the centre while asleep. I'd suggest that 30 degrees is a little steep though, maybe set it up next time so that you head is only slightly higher than your feet

    Remember that you're best off lying diagonally across the hammock as that's where you'll find the flat spot - it's much more comfortable than sleeping like a banana down the centre line. You should still be able to achieve a diagonal lay in that particular hammock, you only want to be laying at five to five (if you imagine it as a clock!)

    Check out Shug Emery on youtube, he has a whole playlist dedicated to hammock set-up. He's also a funny guy and his videos are always quite entertaining.

    The bottom line is that it's all trial and error. You'll probably spend another couple of camping trips fine tuning and tweaking the set-up until you find what works for you.
    Last edited by Barney Rubble; 19-05-2017 at 08:57.
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    [QUOTE=Hammock_man;18. In short I try more for a 10 degree than 30 degree hang.[/QUOTE]

    You should be really careful about a 10degree hang angle. The physics are quite clear, the weight on each side of the suspension is nearly 3x the weight in the hammock. e.g. for a 150 lb person (68 kilo) would exert 425 lbs on each suspension line. That is stationary. Wriggle and the laod leaps up, possibly to 4 or 5 times the static load. That is why 30 degree is strongly recommended (only the occupiers weight on each side of the suspension. ). for safety, the BSofthe suspension should be 4 or 5 times the stress on the suspension line(or strap)

    To OP. If you are bent like a banana, you are probably not in a diagonal lay, you should lie with your head well to on side of the centre line, and your legs on the other. Many find it easier to get a "standard" set up by having a hammock ridge line, a cord going from one end of the hammockto theothet. The lengthshould be about 83% of the lebgth of the hammock flat. When the hammock is correctly set, the line will be straight, but not guitar string tight. you should be able to grip it between two fingers and quite easily twist it through 90 degrees. Explained fully on the site theultimatehang.com, including a stress calculator for hammock angle.

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    I do accept the physics but just can not sleep if the setup is rigged too low. It has to be said that with my weight an empty tight rig still drops to a bend. The exact number of degrees I don't know but the side edges of the hammock are easy above my sleeping bag / quilt. I have also always used "trees" and not saplings. some times Kim and I have used a common tree if they rest are too thin. Difficult to say but holding my hands in the air whilst sat typing, would say an 8 inch diameter minimum.

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    I agree that when you load the hammock, the suspension lines will increase the hang angle to some extent. IMO, that is even more reason the have a hammock ridge line. Then, while sitting or laying in the hammock, you can reach up and twist the line between your fingers to check for correct tension. You will also have a consistent curve in the hammock, which should allow a fairly flat diagonal lie. The 83% "rule" is also simple maths as the arc the hammock takes will have the ends at 30deg from horizontal.Obviously,when a human is in the hammock, it will not be in a perfect arc, so the final angle will not be exactly 30 degrees. Many people like an adjustable hammock ridge line so it can be varied to allow the most comfortable lie. reports suggest that it only needs to move a few cms either way to satisfy most hangers requirements. It i,perhaps, worth mentioning that the most experienced builders of camping hammocks, Hennessy and Warbonnet, both install fixed 83 degree hammock ridge lines.

    Looking again at the OPs photo, the angle looks closer to 45 degrees. SHould still be able to get a good diagonal lie at that angle.

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