Whats the best grind for your ideal bushcraft knife?

**Native Justice** · 14-07-2008, 20:31

You have superb taste Hoodoo!

I just received my first Hankala this past Saturday looking identical to the Tuhkuri which you posted. An amazing knife. I find it difficult to imagine any others which could be better made or be so appropriate for so many uses! I believe scandis to be the ultimate in design and function. And thanks for the shots of Pekka's work, amazing knives!

NJ

**Hoodoo** · 07-08-2008, 20:04

Originally Posted by Native Justice

You have superb taste Hoodoo!

I just received my first Hankala this past Saturday looking identical to the Tuhkuri which you posted. An amazing knife. I find it difficult to imagine any others which could be better made or be so appropriate for so many uses! I believe scandis to be the ultimate in design and function. And thanks for the shots of Pekka's work, amazing knives!

NJ

I've never felt guilty recommending Jukka's knives. Just superb work. Glad you like yours.

**BOD** · 23-08-2008, 12:42

Oh those leukus are so appealing.

I wonder how a larger 10" leuku would do as a jungle knife? I am beginning to think quite well.

As half Finn I think I am obliged to try them out.

Who makes traditional inexpensive leukus which are meant as work knives and who accepts and delivers overseas orders?

I am looking for a plain wooden handle that can handle heat and high humidity.

BTW, I voted scandi for the small knife and convex for big blades

**Hoodoo** · 23-08-2008, 13:21

Originally Posted by BOD

Oh those leukus are so appealing.

I wonder how a larger 10" leuku would do as a jungle knife? I am beginning to think quite well.

As half Finn I think I am obliged to try them out.

Who makes traditional inexpensive leukus which are meant as work knives and who accepts and delivers overseas orders?

I am looking for a plain wooden handle that can handle heat and high humidity.

BTW, I voted scandi for the small knife and convex for big blades

Well, the 9" Strömeng leuku might be a viable candidate for you.

**BOD** · 24-08-2008, 02:17

Thanks Hoodoo,

That looks about right. Found their website on the net.

Now to import it.

The irony is that, in this land where a 9" leuku is a small blade and where people in rural areas walk into town wearing 16-24" blades, you need an import permit for a knife!!

**John Fenna** · 20-12-2008, 11:47

I can vouch for the Samikniv!
Mind you I have had it glance off some gren hazel when I got the angle of swipe wrong...por technique is amplified by the bigger blade!

**traderran** · 04-02-2009, 07:33

I voted convex Since I got my first Bark river I love the convex edge.

**Amon81** · 21-05-2009, 22:14

Scandi for me.

I've got a couple of scandi and convex. I like both but If I had to pick between the two I wouldn't hesitate in picking a scandi one. I've found they split wood better too.

You can get a convex amazingly sharp but I just think scandi is better and easy to sharpen in the field.

Scandi grind, Japanese waterstones, a strop with some Aluminaoxide on it makes for a edge any phone book or yellow pages should be sceared of.

My current knife of choice, an Enzo Trapper, strong sharp and very nice in the hand.

You can't really tell in those photos, but after about an hour on a 6000 stone its starting to get a mirror edge which I'm after. I've started a fire before off a knife that had a mirror edge (using the sun and a bit of newspaper in the garden).

Its also the sharpest I've ever got a knife, glides through 8 sheets of paper like its not there.

**Le Loup** · 25-06-2009, 03:16

I only ever use carbon steel blades, and have no trouble sharpening them on any stone. At home I use a big stone, but in the woods I carry an 18th century style which is small and light, weighs just 100grms.

**VtBlackdog** · 20-07-2009, 03:54

Both convex and scandi!

I"m a Bark River fan, and I have convexed my SAKs also; a few quick swipes on the hone and they are shaving sharp.....I just got my first scandi (a Wood Jewell) and I also like that edge. I don't see much difference in ease of sharpening between the two types...anything but a useless v-grind!

**Le Loup** · 20-07-2009, 04:37

Originally Posted by Hoodoo

Well, the 9" Strömeng leuku might be a viable candidate for you.

Is this blade carbon steel?
Le Loup.

**Chris the Cat** · 20-07-2009, 09:25

Hey Hoodoo! Any chance of pm'ing me with Pekkas email address please?
That would be great.
Thanks.
Chris.

**Hoodoo** · 20-07-2009, 13:16

PM sent.

This is what I found.

puukkopekka@luukku.com

**Chris the Cat** · 20-07-2009, 13:27

Thanks alot!
My best.
Chris.

**sandsnakes** · 13-09-2009, 08:09

As this post still seems open. Got to go with convex for so many reasons, including having had spent two days in the woods with Dave Budd learning to sharpen my scalpels, Victorian paring knives and bushy blades.

So for me sabre, convex with slight secondary and sharpen it in the field on wet and dry.

Sandsnakes

**NikDarkwood** · 02-10-2009, 21:58

Being a cheapskate and incredibly lazy the grind on my tools follows the profile of whichever power wetstone I'm using.

On the boat I live on, thats a bench grinder type wetstone and in the workshop its an old horizontal 'record player deck' type wetstone. Hollowground and flat ground respectivelly.

Then to be REALLY lazy I finish off with a homemade slow speed power strop dressed with jewelers rouge or even toothpaste if I'm really skint.

**faca** · 09-12-2009, 10:14

hi for me is more important blade thickness.
1.5 to 2mm with full conxex like OPINEL uses=goos slicer anc cutter ;-)

**FGYT** · 23-12-2009, 18:59

might have found a new one that has a lot of promise

a FLandi grind which is a Full flat but left thick enough to still have a Scandi secondary trying out on my newblade the scandi bit is 25degree at a thickness of 2mm then tapered up to the spine

you could also convex the secondary bit

or as ive seen Convex one side flat grind the other (makes it handed tho )

choices choices

ATB

Duncan

**Chris the Cat** · 21-01-2010, 14:29

Isn't the Flandi what Dave uses already Duncan? A sort of exagerated secondary!?
My best.
Chris.

**FGYT** · 21-01-2010, 15:33

Originally Posted by Chris the Cat

Isn't the Flandi what Dave uses already Duncan? A sort of exagerated secondary!?
My best.
Chris.

possible but i doubt its as high a 3-4mm and as acute as 25deg
i havent seen any of his grinds like that

but as i said in the thread its an idea ive come up with BUT its probably been done before (most things have in the knife world)

I woudl like to forge one tho

ATB

Duncan

**Chris the Cat** · 21-01-2010, 15:34

Get on with it fella!
( I would like to see that aswell! )
Cheers.
C da C.

**FGYT** · 21-01-2010, 15:40

Originally Posted by Chris the Cat

Get on with it fella!
( I would like to see that aswell! )
Cheers.
C da C.

its 20yrs since i wacked Hot metal at college

Might do it as a Stick tang to

but the shock might kill Dave

ATB

Duncan

**Chris the Cat** · 21-01-2010, 15:42

Lol!!.....

**Dave Budd** · 23-01-2010, 09:43

Originally Posted by FGYT

its 20yrs since i wacked Hot metal at college

Might do it as a Stick tang to

but the shock might kill Dave

ATB

Duncan

Go on then Duncan, show me what you're made of

You know I like it when you guys make proper knives instead of those kiddies projects

As for me making a 'flandi grind' blade, you are both right. When I started to make forged blades I forged cloes to an edge then went straight into the sharpening and ended up with an edge of about 4mm at 20d on either side. These days my forging is better so I get closer to an edge before putting it to the grinder, so at 20d each side my bevels are normally about 2mm (between 1 and three depending on the nature of the blade). So I guess if I put a much lower angle on it then it would come out close to 4mm.

not quite as shiny as yours though

**Chris the Cat** · 21-02-2010, 20:59

Sharpest knives I own Dave,I know that much!!
C da C.

**Le Loup** · 21-02-2010, 21:17

I have to admit, that although I have been using knives for over 50 years, this stuff is going right over my head. Hence my earlier replies which were obviously not what anyone was looking for. Well here is another one I guess. I sharpen my blades at the same angle all the time, because that is the angle that my hand always holds the blade at on the stone.
I use whatever stone is available, and have been known to use stones out of the creek.

**PREPER** · 14-03-2010, 21:40

This is the sort of thread I joined BCUK for.
I'm learning 'stuff', thanks to all who posted,
I would vote scandy and convex!

PREPER.............

**hurplegrappers** · 19-03-2010, 15:38

Used only a couple of Scandi's for quick tent pegs so not really qualified to form a proper opinion. I just love my flat grind Spyderco Sage to bits so voted flat

**fishkettlebanana** · 28-04-2010, 12:25

I'd go with spyderco ceramic in a flat hide case
I've never known anything better and I've tried all oilstones, diamond sharpeners and sticks

a bit of oil and it will sharpen your knife lovely
it also depends on the hardness of the steel blade
titanium or ceramic edged knives are disappointing an with never get a razor edge

one trick I did learn that improves a knife edge immeasurably is to fill the microscopic blade edge grooves with leather particles from a strop hence why I mentioned the hyde case of the sharpener. it turns an already sharp edge into a mirror finish scalpel edge

**BarryG** · 06-08-2010, 19:05

I voted scandy... purely because of easy of sharpening.
However, my next knife will be coming with a micro bevel. I'm not sure about the merits of this or how easy it will be to maintain it. I guess I'm about to find out. I'm curious to see if there is any discernible difference in cutting ability or edge retention.

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