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    After a couple of years of not having a uniform for scouts I've been invited to get one so I thought I'd make a woggle for myself.

    It's a pineapple or Gaucho Button Knot and is basically an interweave of two turks head knots. One is a seven part, six bight , the other a five part, six bight. It can be done using just one thread or using a different one for each knot as I've done here.
    I followed the instructions from this book - very good for braiding knots of all sorts but can be a little tricky to follow sometimes...

    I'm fairly pleased with the result although the white lace has darkened quite a bit with the dressing on it, it looked better with white and purple laces.

    Cheers

    Mark
    Last edited by Buckshot; 07-06-2006 at 09:27.
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    You've starred once again Mark,

    Is there anything you can't braid?

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    Here we go Mark - "Pimp My Woggle"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ogri the trog
    Is there anything you can't braid?
    Lots ! I'm not that good !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil562
    Here we go Mark - "Pimp My Woggle"


    Cheers guys.

    The picture doesn't do it justice really, the darker thread is a really nice purple colour. I'll try and take another pic.

    Mark
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    lads i am looking for new ideas for woogle making have tried a couple variations over the years but am looking for something new

    do ye have any pics of wopgles ye have mage

    also if ye would be interested in a badge swap please PM me

    thanks in advance
    Last edited by Buckshot; 07-06-2006 at 13:45.

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    I used to have one made from a sheep vertebrae - one of the leaders caringly said I'd get anthrax - so I left the scouts!
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    My fathers' got a load of woggles from his days.
    I'l have to speak to him....
    In a world whose only quarrel with instant gratification is that it takes too long, we are practitioners of a dying art: patience."

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    I make the more normal size turkshead woggle in washing line. But for specials I use basketry cane (presoaked).
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    nice work mark that looks great we used to do them in the unit necker colours when i was a leader (red and black)

    i also had a cane woggle haven't got it anymore would love another one i might have to go and get som willow on the way home

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    if i am out in the field with my lot i use a piece of red antler that has had the inner core drilled out
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    Quote Originally Posted by KIMBOKO
    I make the more normal size turkshead woggle in washing line. But for specials I use basketry cane (presoaked).
    We've got a load of 'paracord' in various colours cut to length but no-ones been bothered about making them yet... perhaps that will change now.
    I like the idea of a cane woggle. Is that a turks head just made from cane rather than leather/ cord? Any idea of the type of turks head used and is there anything special done when making them?

    James, sounds a very nice colour combo. We're an air troop so only have sky blue neckers and blue shirts (almost the same colour) so not much good really !

    Cheers

    Mark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scally
    if i am out in the field with my lot i use a piece of red antler that has had the inner core drilled out
    ohh now that sounds nice i think i may be doing some antler carving tonight

    mark my cane woggle was the same sort you can tye round your hand really easy i cant remeber the number of bites and leads though but i'll look them up when i get home

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    Mark,

    Since there's no such thing as a stupid question on BCUK:
    What on earth is a 'woggle' (I've seen your pic, but can't figure it out ... ), what do you do with it, why do you want to have one and what has it to do with the Scouts (I've never joined them)?

    Questions, questions, ...


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    Johan a woggle is used to hold the scalf(necker) around a scouts neck

    just stick woggle into google and all will become clear


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    Quote Originally Posted by jdlenton
    Johan a woggle is used to hold the scalf(necker) around a scouts neck

    just stick woggle into google and all will become clear


    James
    Cheers James, that helps!
    Now ... why didn't I thought about Google ...



    Clears things up.

    Found this site, maybe usefull for those who want to do a rope / string version of a woggle (learnt a new word!): http://www.seascouts.ca/knots/turk.htm (Seascouts though )

    EDIT:
    Mark, completely forgot to say it looks very good (especially now I know what it is )
    Last edited by Ahjno; 07-06-2006 at 17:24. Reason: forgot something
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    Nice one Mark...looks like the scouts are keeping you pretty busy..
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    Looks good Mark; welcome to the few - the proud - the scoutleaders...

    "Let's get out there and do stuff"

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    This is a pic of my lad modeling it for me...


    You're quite right, they are keeping me busy, off to Marlow camp in a couple of weeks to do the 'aqua camp'

    Mark
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    Forgive the ignorance....what's an "aqua camp" and what activities do you cover...?...canoeing etc ?..
    Stu
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    It's all water based activities...
    canoeing (not sure if they're open or not)
    sailing
    raft building and racing
    rowing (or as the scout leader called it 'pulling'. When I was younger that term had a different meaning)

    There are instructors to cover the sessions so we're just needed for food and evenings. We can jion in the activities if we want at cost, the canoeing is a possibilty but I'm not to worried about the rest.
    I'm hoping to be able relax a little as well... Perhaps that's not the right term to use in the same sentance as 24 kids!!!
    In a world whose only quarrel with instant gratification is that it takes too long, we are practitioners of a dying art: patience."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckshot
    I'm hoping to be able relax a little as well... Perhaps that's not the right term to use in the same sentance as 24 kids!!!
    Stu
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    Relax?

    On a Scout camp????

    "Let's get out there and do stuff"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Womble
    Relax?

    On a Scout camp????

    I did on the last one I went on! - had loads of time to 'play' in the woods (yippie) while they just got on with it and organised themselves!

    Mind you I only went as an extra pair of hands/ knowledge and skills store/ keep the wife warm but then again as DC - I was essentially in charge i guess!
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    last camp i was on was the cuboree last week 1700 cubs


    totaly relaxing(cough)

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    Quote Originally Posted by g4ghb
    I did on the last one I went on! - had loads of time to 'play' in the woods (yippie) while they just got on with it and organised themselves!

    Mind you I only went as an extra pair of hands/ knowledge and skills store/ keep the wife warm but then again as DC - I was essentially in charge i guess!
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    Back at work after the weekend...
    The McDonald's sketch


    Can't show any more pics I'm afraid but suffice to say they really enjoyed it.
    My hammock was a real magnet for everyone and I did a bad carving of a cockrel and a twig whistle which they all loved !

    Mark
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    Looks like a laugh!

    I do miss my Scouting days.

    Nice woggle too!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckshot
    Back at work after the weekend...

    ...My hammock was a real magnet for everyone

    Mark
    We had our District Troop camp at the weekend, and my Hennesy hammock drew a lot of attention as well. One of the troops was sleeping in net hammocks that they had made, and some of them came over and had a look. Once they realised that it wasn't as small as it looked, and how comfy it was they all wanted a go.

    The thing was - they were going on about how they wanted one of mine, and I was going on about how great it was that they had made their own!
    "Let's get out there and do stuff"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Womble

    The thing was - they were going on about how they wanted one of mine, and I was going on about how great it was that they had made their own!
    The grass is always greener....

    Now there's an idea, get the scouts to make their own hammock (and while they're at it, they can make me one too...I still sleep on the deck )
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    Here are some of the woggles I have made.

    From left to right
    A piece of spalted birch a piece of sycamore branch from our scout hut land (varnish is a bad ide) a branded one I did at camp (a base I ran at camp) a piece of ash

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    A piece of spalted birch that one of my young leaders has now

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