Evenk Knot

[ScottC]

I've been looking around on the internet to try and find a diagram or little animation to show how to tie an evenk knot, I know the knot myself but I'm trying to teach it to someone over the internet which is a little difficult without some sort of visual aid. Anyway, my search came up with nothing so I was hoping one of you would know where I could find a diagram or is there a more common name for the knot which might bring up more relevant results?

[Angus Og]

Try here
http://www.pyramidbodyguards.co.uk/r...ntsandtips.asp

[gregorach]

Sometimes I suspect Ray has copyrighted that knot, considering how hard it is to find anything about it outside of his work... Great knot though.

[wizard]

This has good detail, someone posted it before here I think. Hope it helps. Really an easy knot afterall

http://website.lineone.net/~mark.emery/Evenk.htm

[Xenitram]

I don't think you can call the knot on this page an Evenk knot: http://website.lineone.net/~mark.emery/Evenk.htm
As far as I know this is just looks like a Falconer's Knot using both hands (I have seen Ray Mears using this one too).
The Evenk knot won´t slip. This one does.
Let me know if you want a description for the Evenk knot.

[Galemys]

As far as I know this is just looks like a Falconer's Knot using both hands (I have seen Ray Mears using this one too).

What's the difference between the falconer's and the Evenk? I thought they were both just different methods to end up with the same knot.
I use the falconer's to tie up my hammock because it's easy & you can do it onehanded.

Tom

[Biddlesby]

Have been tying both methods with my shoelace on the table leb, and i admit they do look pretty similar.

don't think you can call the knot on this page an Evenk knot: http://website.lineone.net/~mark.emery/Evenk.htm
As far as I know this is just looks like a Falconer's Knot using both hands (I have seen Ray Mears using this one too).

That's what I'd call an Evenk. Doesn't seem to slip. Perhaps its the rope you are using.

[PhilParry]

ScottC,

There are a couple of knots known as "Evenk" in Ray's Bushcraft book. The best answer, if you want to see the one used for hammocks, is to lay out £5.99 at Woodlore and buy his eco-system DVD. This shows you in detail how to tie the knot in video, rather than pictures.

Not sure that helps you though.....I saw it tied first hand during my fundamental bushcraft course.

Phil

[Graham_S]

if you tie the knot with one hand it's a falconers knot.
if you use both it's an evenk knot.

one is used for tieing up reindeer one is used for birds.

[hammy]

Wrong they are slightly different knots if you look closely.

[hairyback]

Hi all,

First post and at the risk of telling grandma how to suck eggs (there's probably a thread on here for that!) I thought I would add my tuppence worth (and some pictures if I can work out how) to the evenk/falconer debate. I'm not sure if these knots are evenk knots or otherwise, however after much practising in an upturned chair I can now reliably tie two similar but slightly different quick release knots that I would use with a basha. One slips, the other does not.

Basically, once I have wound a loop round my left hand, pointed to the sky and passed my left hand (with the loop) under the main rope then I can make a non-slip quick release knot by taking a loop from the main rope through the loop in my left hand, then passing a loop from the loose end through the loop from the main rope. NB it is possible to end up with a slipping knot if there is too much tension in the main rope. The main rope needs to be allowed to form kinks as the loose end loops are tightened.

To make a slipping version I point to the sky, pass my left hand (with the loop) under the main rope, then pass another loop from the loose end through the loop in my left hand, then repeat to keep the knot from unravelling. The repeat may be described as stopping the knot from slipping, but I think what is meant is that the knot doesn't unravel. It will still slide along the main rope, unlike the first knot.

Hard to show without pictures but does this sound right? It works for me anyway!

[g4ghb]

Hi hairyback! - firstly welcome to BuscraftUK


and to answer your question........... who cares if it is right!? - if it works for you then it IS right

hang around here for any time and you will soon learn that there is often more than one way of doing things and every way is valid! heck the more ways I can find to do something the better!

[maddave]

There is a really clear set of pics at the link below that shows the tying of the Evenk knot

http://www.outdooridiots.com/feature...hingatarp4.asp

[leon-b]

i think i know what knot you lot are talking about, does the evenk man tie up his raindeer with it and then teach ray how to tye it in one of rays shows
leon

[Ed]

i think i know what knot you lot are talking about, does the evenk man tie up his raindeer with it and then teach ray how to tye it in one of rays shows

Yep Thats the one ......


Ed

[leon-b]

oh what could you use this knot for
leon

[Ed]

Most here use it on one end their hootchie/basha/tarp ridge lines, with some sort of tension knot (hitch) on the other end to get the whole line nice and tight.


Ed

[dommyracer]

I use it for one end of the tarp and one end of the hammock.

[wingstoo]

Is this not the same, sorry I meant hitch...

http://www.iland.net/~jbritton/highwayman****ch.htm

www.iland.net/~jbritton/highwayman****ch.htm

Okay, because there is a filter on for swearwords it will not show the missing letters...so replace the **** with the letters s h i t without the spaces...

Try them both as the top one plays up!!!


LS

[ScottC]

No but it looks somewhat similar, the evenk knot is tied around a post like a tree.

[Rod]

Sometimes I suspect Ray has copyrighted that knot, considering how hard it is to find anything about it outside of his work... Great knot though.

I have a book at home called "North" by Nicholas Vanier, which is a pictoral diary of twenty years spent journeying in the Arctic Circle. He shows the knot in there, which the Evenk showed him when he stayed. His book was published several years before Ray's.

Also has a good pattern for moccasins and several other interesting bits