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Qrt
04-09-2012, 11:47
I found these berries last week on an island in varmland, sweden but I'm not sure what it is
they were on small bushes with a few berries per plant, low to the ground, roughly 5 to 10 cm high

I think it's either red currant or cloudberry

what do you guys think?

http://www.mightbewrong.net/qrt/berry.jpg

HillBill
04-09-2012, 11:50
It aint either :) Cloudberrys are orange and look like small blackberries and red currants have different leaves and are much larger plants. The berries only grow on last years wood too, so wouldnt be able to produce at that size i dont think

I thought lingonberry but the leaves are different to that too.

southey
04-09-2012, 11:51
They are !NOT! red currents,

southey
04-09-2012, 11:58
red current
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2425/3673953865_1550260c67.jpg

lingonberry

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRNaJNQXW4QM BXEXKollxJXr5O5MAC45DEhab5wvTS 4Ns5Jsx0v&t=1

cloudberry

http://ayating.com/eblog/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Cloudberry2.jpg

Black briony, note the marks on the eaves, I reckon you've got a young one of these,

http://data.live.wt.precedenthost.co. uk/sites/data.live.wt.precedenthost.co. uk/files/imagecache/reserve_web_large/sites/data.live.wt.precedenthost.co. uk/files/black_bryony-00015%20northeastwildlife.co.u k.jpg

southey
04-09-2012, 11:59
though saying that the berries are very translucent,

southey
04-09-2012, 12:01
Just seen your in Belgium, sorry chap im not sure at all,

HillBill
04-09-2012, 12:02
The leaves on the black bryony are more like vine leaves though.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Black+bryony&hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=S99FUKi6BsHK0QXpuIH4Ag&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAQ&biw=1318&bih=876

HillBill
04-09-2012, 12:05
Can't find any info of a plant that matches that. Looks almost like a cross between wild strawberry ( leaves) and red currant.

southey
04-09-2012, 12:07
Not all the same as far as i know,

http://dovegreyreader.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451584369e20176168617c9 970c-800wi

I know its a bti poo but the leaves in the back ground are the same as the prvious pic i posted, from two different sources, of course there is nothing to say these could both be wrong, and then so am I :)

Qrt
04-09-2012, 12:11
I'm from Belgium but found these in sweden, I wish I had taken more pictures..

I agree with you guys that it's not lingonberry and cloudberry

the translucency was very close to red current (and the leaves too in my opinion)
but it were small plants and the berries were not together like red current

not sure about briony either

I found some small raspberries close to it too

HillBill
04-09-2012, 12:12
Rasp and currant cross maybe?

Qrt
04-09-2012, 12:16
Can't find any info of a plant that matches that. Looks almost like a cross between wild strawberry ( leaves) and red currant.

could be, that's also how I noticed them since I have some wild strawberry in my backyard and I recognized the leaves but I didn't expect to find those berries :)

HillBill
04-09-2012, 12:21
Aye we grow 2 different types of wild strawberry, plus red/white and blackcurrants.

Its an unusual one to me, and berries are probably my strong point when it comes to wild foods. :) But then, i aint swedish nor have i ever been there yet. :) I'm sure some of our scandinavian members will recognise it. :)

CitE
04-09-2012, 16:26
I was with Qrt and maybe I can give more clues to which berries they were:

In the picture above the berries seem to be apart, but in most cases the berries were clustered against eachother more or less like the cloudberries. At the top of the berries you can see tiny brown leaves, they surrounded the berries. And in the middle you can see the stump on which they were seated.

It is true that there were raspberries close to them but they were scarce. Most of the unknown berries were growing +/- 15m further along the coastline and they were all growing on those small plants like in the picture. We haven't seen one big bush with them. If I would have to guess a ratio it would be 1 raspberry plant/100 unknown berry plant.

I think one of the best clues is in the leaves. All of the plants had 3 leaves all apart from eachother which you can see best in the top ones.

Qrt
20-09-2012, 20:22
we found it!

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubus_arcticus

HillBill
20-09-2012, 21:16
Nice one :)

Ruvio
20-09-2012, 23:09
I don't think it is. I've seen one of these on a course and think it's mildly toxic but I can't remember what it is. Looks vaguely honeysuckleish but obviously not.

Geoff Dann
21-09-2012, 13:45
Not all the same as far as i know,

http://dovegreyreader.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451584369e20176168617c9 970c-800wi

I know its a bti poo but the leaves in the back ground are the same as the prvious pic i posted, from two different sources, of course there is nothing to say these could both be wrong, and then so am I :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viburnum_opulus

southey
21-09-2012, 13:58
No the one in my pic is Black Bryony not guelder rose GD,

Geoff Dann
21-09-2012, 14:11
No the one in my pic is Black Bryony not guelder rose GD,

Tricky, these red berries... :)

wickedwillow
21-09-2012, 15:51
I carnt see the leaf properly but I would say Black Bryony especially as the fruit is growing in long strands not single bunches, eat this and your dead.

xylaria
22-09-2012, 00:12
My hunch is that is caprifolaceae family, that is honeysuckles, vibernums and elderberrys. It is not bryony the leaves are wrong for both types, it is not relative of blackberry as the fruit is not compound and the stem is not woody enough for other rosaceae, is doesn't quite look right for the ribes [currents].

i doubt it turns up in britian or someone on here would know it.

I would be quite happy to be wrong.

Outdoordude
22-09-2012, 06:45
I think there baneberries also know as an actaea.
here - http://www.wiseacre-gardens.com/plants/wildflower/baneberry.html
You have to scroll
Down a bit to see a picture similar to this one.
Hope this helps.

Ruvio
22-09-2012, 12:42
I think you're right there Outdoordude, good eye

Martti
22-09-2012, 14:54
Looks like Alpine Currant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ribes_alpinum) (Ribes alpinum) to me.

Outdoordude
22-09-2012, 19:37
I think you're right there Outdoordude, good eye

Thanks. too be honest i cant take the credit. It was my dad who recognized them. He owns a nursery so hes bound to know i thought. If they are baneberries then they are poisness and the OP should thank his lucky stars he didnt eat any. Apparently eating them can cause a cardiac arrest.

Heres was wikipedia said:

Baneberry contains cardiogenic toxins than can have an immediate sedative effect on human cardiac muscle. The berries are the most poisonous part of the plant (hence the name baneberry). Children have been poisoned by eating the waxy, shiny red or white berries. Ingestion of the berries can lead to cardiac arrest and death. It is toxic to rabbits. The berries are harmless to birds, the plant's primary seed disperser. Actaea species are closely related to plants in the genus Aconitum, a highly toxic plant genus which contains wolfbane and several varieties of monkshood