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MagiKelly
29-09-2005, 16:26
Third Hammock Group Buy
Okay I give in. The reserve list for these has now grown to the level where another buy has become almost inevitable. The information is the same as the first post in this thread
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/community/showthread.php?t=7510 (http://www.bushcraftuk.com/community/showthread.php?t=7510)
Or this one :rolleyes:
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/community/showthread.php?t=7795
The last time the price worked out at approx £17 including postage and PayPal fees. Because I am not making any money on these the price may fluctuate because of exchange rates, delivery charges etc. The best thing is to work on the principal that the Hammocks will cost between £17 - £19 each. If you expect these figures it should only be good news when the hammocks arrive, hopefully.
Now before anyone confirms anything one of out members WorldExplorer sells hammocks on ebay. See an example here
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-DD-CAMPING-HAMMOCK-Enclosable-Weighs-just-730g_W0QQitemZ5235586564 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-DD-CAMPING-HAMMOCK-Enclosable-Weighs-just-730g_W0QQitemZ5235586564)
A few members have ordered these and seem very happy with them. Nick has offered to sell these to BCUK members for £15 including postage. This is quite a bit cheaper than the group buy ones. I have not personally tried one of Nick’s hammocks so can’t make any comments but I want this offer out in the open before I spend £500 ordering hammocks from Bali. Don’t get me wrong I am happy to do the group buy but I do not want people feeling oblidged to buy one of the group buy hammocks when they would prefer one of Nick’s.
So now that is out of the way here are the provisional names I have so far
2 Wolf Man
? Wildrover
? Povarian
1 CraigM9
2 Scruff
1 Wayland
1 AndyN
1 Pterton
2 Moonraker
1 Shankly
1 Soa_uk
1 Bombadil
1 Innocent Bystander
1 Blankfisherman
? Ogri the Trog
So that is about 17 so far. So if you want one or if your want to change your order from the number above, post a note here. Also can those with a question mark against their quantitiy please confirm what amount they want.
Now there is no guarantee that this third buy will go ahead. I need to order 50 so have to have close to that number interested before I can place an order so don't go buying climbing tape just yet.
Yup 1 more for me please John.
innocent bystander
29-09-2005, 17:08
Put me down for one please, it would make a handy spare....
Blankfisherman
30-09-2005, 08:55
Please put me down for one.
Ogri the trog
30-09-2005, 09:39
I'm in again John,
I'll confirm numbers in a few days when friends and family will have seen mine and expressed an interest.
Ogri the trog
lignum vitae
30-09-2005, 10:25
Sounds like a quality item bud, count me in for 1 please. I'll mention it to the lads where i work- possibly ask to order more later if i'm not too late!
Roy's Badger
30-09-2005, 10:29
Count me in for one, possibly two... hopefully comfier than my home-made knock off!
MagiKelly
30-09-2005, 12:26
List so far
2 Wolf Man
? Wildrover
? Povarian
1 CraigM9
2 Scruff
1 Wayland
1 AndyN
1 Pterton
2 Moonraker
1 Shankly
1 Soa_uk
1 Bombadil
1 Innocent Bystander
1 Blankfisherman
? Ogri the Trog
1 lignum vitae
1 Roy's Badger
1 stevo
1 big lizard
22 ish so far.
I'll take one........quite new to this forum, can I see a picture of one, or get some details on them?
Cheers,
MagiKelly
30-09-2005, 15:26
Have a look through the threads listed in the first post of this thread. The information is there and the first post of the first thread has pictures of a similar hammock. The colours are slightly different but the construction is the same.
The thing to remember is that you only get the hammock with the hanging hooks, you need to get rope or climbing tape yourself. The length of the Hammock is 2.82m and 2m wide which is very close to the dimentions of the Ray Mears Ecosystem.
I keep expecting a flood of pictures from those that have bought these, after all there is about 90 out there amongst the membership but like me they must have not got round to taking pictures yet. Actually I have a lot of pictures of my hammock set up but they are almost all of the paradise hammock shown in the thread above. I will try to dig some out and post them.
hi MagiKelly
i am that happy with the hammock from the last batch can you please put my name down for another
thanks adam
Moonraker
02-10-2005, 15:07
Nice one John. Appreciated :)
And yes! Lets have a few photos of these hammocks in action ;)
I've posted a picture of my hammock for two reasons....1) so people can see what the hammocks that John is getting looks like and 2) so i can have some constructive critisium about how i have put it up as I'm pretty sure i must have gone wrong somewhere :D
Should it be flatter? Do i need it tighter? Trees further apart? I've never seen any other people using hammocks so am very much going by guess work.
http://acc-systems.dsl.pipex.com/images/photos/myphotos/hammock2.jpg
ahh cant edit post for some reason and link is wrong:
http://www.acc-systems.dsl.pipex.com/images/photos/myphotos/hammock2.jpg
Can a mod correct it for me if possible.
The Joker
02-10-2005, 18:17
Yes please stick me down I'll have one.
pete
MagiKelly
02-10-2005, 21:24
Here you Andy.
This is Andy's set up.
http://www.acc-systems.dsl.pipex.com/images/photos/myphotos/hammock2.jpg
lignum vitae
03-10-2005, 08:30
Can you put me down for 2 please? Cheers.
MagiKelly
03-10-2005, 10:58
List so far
2 Wolf Man
2 Wildrover
? Povarian
1 CraigM9
2 Scruff
1 Wayland
2 AndyN
1 Pterton
2 Moonraker
1 Shankly
1 Soa_uk
1 Bombadil
1 Innocent Bystander
1 Blankfisherman
? Ogri the Trog
3 lignum vitae
1 Roy's Badger
1 stevo
1 big lizard
1 clipper
27 ish so far. About half way. I am willing to take about 5 for myself as I can always give them away as Christmas Presents and also I am sure that if we do get enough for a third order there are bound to be a few people looking for hammocks after the fact.
John, could you put me down for a second please. Missus has decided she would like one too. Thanks
MagiKelly
03-10-2005, 14:16
John, could you put me down for a second please. Missus has decided she would like one too. Thanks
Done (this bit is just to take the message up to more than 10 letters :rolleyes: )
lignum vitae
03-10-2005, 16:13
can we make that three now please? Cheers.
Just out of interest , I was in B&Q today and came across some smallish laquered caribinas made by Master Lock
They feel too heavy to be aluminium and they are marked "Not for Climbing" but they seem strong enough for the hammock I got and they are lighter than my climbing crabs.
The best bit is they're just under 2 quid each.
Even if they're not up to the hammock for everyone it's still a good price for a gear crab.
Povarian
03-10-2005, 18:57
I keep expecting a flood of pictures from those that have bought these, after all there is about 90 out there amongst the membership but like me they must have not got round to taking pictures yet. Aw go on then...
Head end higher to stop me dozing off in my lunch break. Spot some other group buys too.
http://www.povarian.plus.com/images/hammock2.jpg
and some woodland weirdo having just run back across the river trying to get in before 10s timer on camera expires.
http://www.povarian.plus.com/images/hammock3.jpg
I'll let you know quantity in a couple of days, once I find out from some friends if they really want to go ahead or not.
wildrover
03-10-2005, 21:23
I'd like 2 please John.
As an aside, I have not managed to use the hammock properly yet due to work/family commitments at the moment.
Does any one know if my Khatmandu(spelling?) 2.5x2.5m basha will give enough coverage, or will I have to splash out on a larger one?
allanscot
03-10-2005, 23:37
Could you put me down for one as well please :)
MagiKelly
04-10-2005, 09:35
2 Wolf Man
2 Wildrover
? Povarian
1 CraigM9
2 Scruff
1 Wayland
2 AndyN
1 Pterton
2 Moonraker
1 Shankly
2 Soa_uk
1 Bombadil
1 Innocent Bystander
1 Blankfisherman
? Ogri the Trog
3 lignum vitae
1 Roy's Badger
1 stevo
1 big lizard
1 clipper
1 allanscot
1 gaz_miggy
30 ish so far. About half way. I am willing to take about 5 for myself as I can always give them away as Christmas Presents and also I am sure that if we do get enough for a third order there are bound to be a few people looking for hammocks after the fact.
gaz_miggy
04-10-2005, 16:37
i could realy do with one to if uv got any left
MagiKelly
04-10-2005, 19:38
i could realy do with one to if uv got any left
Still plenty. I have added you to the list.
John, could you up my request to 2(two)?
MagiKelly
06-10-2005, 13:29
John, could you up my request to 2(two)?
Of course. Not a bad idea to go for a spare. If this is not the last group buy it will certainly be the last for a long time anyway. If you look back through the previous buys it is quite noticable that a lot of people have bought one then taken more at the next opertunity.
My plan is to wait till we get to 40 then I will place the order. Once we have reached that point I am confident the remainder will find a home. Even if it is just to supply those who wished they had ordered more ;)
Ogri the trog
09-10-2005, 23:31
MagiKelly,
Finally got confirmation of my numbers, can I go for three please.
Must try to get photos of the first one to add to those already posted.
Cheers buddy
Ogri the trog
MagiKelly
10-10-2005, 09:37
2 Wolf Man
2 Wildrover
? Povarian
1 CraigM9
2 Scruff
1 Wayland
2 AndyN
1 Pterton
2 Moonraker
1 Shankly
2 Soa_uk
1 Bombadil
1 Innocent Bystander
1 Blankfisherman
3 Ogri the Trog
4 lignum vitae
1 Roy's Badger
1 stevo
1 big lizard
1 clipper
1 allanscot
1 gaz_miggy
33 ish so far. 8 to go before I place the order.
lignum vitae
10-10-2005, 10:33
One more to my total please. cheers
MagiKelly
10-10-2005, 12:14
One more to my total please. cheers
And I thought at first I was strange by wanting more than one. The way things are going I will end up as the one with the short stack.
Povarian
10-10-2005, 14:08
Just one for me this time. The friends I talked about should be requesting some independently now Willowbark has joined the group.
MagiKelly
10-10-2005, 14:34
2 Wolf Man
2 Wildrover
1 Povarian
1 CraigM9
2 Scruff
1 Wayland
2 AndyN
1 Pterton
2 Moonraker
1 Shankly
2 Soa_uk
1 Bombadil
1 Innocent Bystander
1 Blankfisherman
3 Ogri the Trog
4 lignum vitae
1 Roy's Badger
1 stevo
1 big lizard
1 clipper
1 allanscot
1 gaz_miggy
1 Pignut
1 Morch
35 so far. 5 to go before I place the order
MagiKelly
14-10-2005, 13:14
Still 6 to go before I place the order.
Go on then John, i'll have another one please :)
Bumblebee
15-10-2005, 10:29
Christmas is coming up soon, these hammocks would make perfect presents!
MagiKelly
15-10-2005, 12:49
List updated.
Tonight I will be posting some pictures so watch out for that.
Also I may be about to list another two group buys :banghead: , one of which is hammock related so watch this space.
MagiKelly
15-10-2005, 15:03
Hex Fly Group Buy thread now here
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/community/showthread.php?t=8678
Pass the popcorn Wayland.
Angus Og
16-10-2005, 19:37
Hi John
Can you put me down for one please.(1) :rolleyes:
MagiKelly
16-10-2005, 21:49
2 Wolf Man
2 Wildrover
1 Povarian
1 CraigM9
2 Scruff
1 Wayland
2 AndyN
1 Pterton
2 Moonraker
1 Shankly
2 Soa_uk
1 Bombadil
1 Innocent Bystander
1 Blankfisherman
3 Ogri the Trog
4 lignum vitae
1 Roy's Badger
1 stevo
1 big lizard
1 clipper
1 allanscot
1 gaz_miggy
1 Pignut
1 Morch
1 Angus Og
36 so far. 4 to go before I place the order.
Angus I can only wonder at what you are doing with all of these.
gaz_miggy
17-10-2005, 17:03
:( come on people you know you wont one. not for the fact that i cant wait to get myn just 4 more people come on im shour we could manige it bettween us. :)
MagiKelly
17-10-2005, 17:33
Never did get round to posting the pictures. The bottom two show it being used with the ecosystem insect netting.
http://www.magikelly.co.uk/ham1.jpg
http://www.magikelly.co.uk/ham2.jpg
http://www.magikelly.co.uk/ham3.jpg
Povarian your friends have still not placed an order. You might want to remind them ;)
Ii'm tempted to order those last four myself!!
c'mon its a great deal guys
:morpheus: >i'm not sure what this smilies all aboot?<
Does any one know if my Khatmandu(spelling?) 2.5x2.5m basha will give enough coverage, or will I have to splash out on a larger one?
It doesn't look like anybody has bothered answering this, the swines!!! I would imagine that it would be fine, I use british army basha or auscam hootchie and they work fine. Then again, my hammock is home made so may differ slightly in dimensions! I suppose you could stick the tarp up like the Hennessy hammocks tarp, diagonally, maybe this would cover your hammock better. One to try anyway!
I'llhave one 2 if I'm not 2 late :rolleyes:
Roy's Badger
19-10-2005, 08:58
Hello mate, I'll take another one please, so 2 total. Ta very much
Grooveski
19-10-2005, 09:22
Hammock me up John!
In fact, make it 2.
Cheers,
Josh
MagiKelly
19-10-2005, 09:45
2 Wolf Man
2 Wildrover
1 Povarian
1 CraigM9
2 Scruff
1 Wayland
2 AndyN
1 Pterton
2 Moonraker
1 Shankly
2 Soa_uk
1 Bombadil
1 Innocent Bystander
1 Blankfisherman
3 Ogri the Trog
4 lignum vitae
2 Roy's Badger
1 stevo
1 big lizard
1 clipper
1 allanscot
1 gaz_miggy
1 Pignut
1 Morch
1 Angus Og
2 Elma
2 Grooveski
1 Bushbasher
1 Bumblebee
43 so far. I'll get the order placed. Now remember I am ordering 50 so there are still 7 left.
peds8045
19-10-2005, 13:01
Sorry for the delay, can you put me down for one please. Thanks :D
MagiKelly
19-10-2005, 16:00
2 Wolf Man
2 Wildrover
1 Povarian
1 CraigM9
2 Scruff
1 Wayland
2 AndyN
1 Pterton
2 Moonraker
1 Shankly
2 Soa_uk
1 Bombadil
1 Innocent Bystander
1 Blankfisherman
3 Ogri the Trog
4 lignum vitae
2 Roy's Badger
1 stevo
1 big lizard
1 clipper
1 allanscot
1 gaz_miggy
1 Pignut
1 Morch
1 Angus Og
2 Elma
2 Grooveski
1 Bushbasher
1 Bumblebee
1 peds8045
44 so far. So there are still 6 left.
I have placed the order and will be sending the money tomorrow. All going well I should have the hammocks by the end of next week.
I DO NOT WANT PAYMENT YET. Once the hammocks arrive I will post the exact cost here and ask for payment then. It is good to know that so many of you are keen to pay but I like to actually have the hammocks in my grubby hands before I start asking for money.
Speaking of money there should have been an increase in the price of the hammocks but I have managed to secure this batch at the previous price. Any future orders would most likely be a little dearer but, as I have said before, I can't imagine there is that much demand left:rolleyes:
.. as I have said before, I can't imagine there is that much demand left:rolleyes:
Esther Rantzen voice... "Unless, of course,..."
Abbe Osram
19-10-2005, 17:24
Hi mate,
Put me up for 1 please
thanks
Abbe
Hello.........If there is still one going, can you put me down for one please. I bought one a few weeks back off ebay and although I am not sure as to how long the stiching is going to last, at this price it is definetly a bargain.
Thanks..........Jon
hi new member here could i have one please
MagiKelly
19-10-2005, 21:15
2 Wolf Man
2 Wildrover
1 Povarian
1 CraigM9
2 Scruff
1 Wayland
2 AndyN
1 Pterton
2 Moonraker
1 Shankly
2 Soa_uk
1 Bombadil
1 Innocent Bystander
1 Blankfisherman
3 Ogri the Trog
4 lignum vitae
2 Roy's Badger
1 stevo
1 big lizard
1 clipper
1 allanscot
1 gaz_miggy
1 Pignut
1 Morch
1 Angus Og
2 Elma
2 Grooveski
1 Bushbasher
1 Bumblebee
1 peds8045
1 Abbe Osram
1 Jon Pickett
1 stevem
47 so far. So there are still 3 left.
After taking so long to get tot he 40 there seems to be a sudden rush of interest again.
Jon I have not seen this style on Ebay. They are very similar to the ones that Paradise Hammocks sell. Obviousley I may be biased but from my experiance I expect the material to wear through before the stitching gives out. All seems are triple stitched.
Hi John........Sorry I must of clicked on the wrong link or something, the one I bought was one of world explorers ones. I still would like one of yours though, the kids are wearing mine out
Ogri the trog
28-10-2005, 16:01
All going well I should have the hammocks by the end of next week.
Any news John?
Ogri the trog
MagiKelly
28-10-2005, 16:44
They were collected in Bali on Wednesday so probably Monday or Tuesday next week for arrival at mine
Ogri the trog
28-10-2005, 18:04
They were collected in Bali on Wednesday so probably Monday or Tuesday next week for arrival at mine
Great stuff, sorry if I come over as impatient, it had gone quiet for a while thats all.
;)
Ogri the trog
monkey_pork
28-10-2005, 22:45
Are there any of those remaining three left, (or have they gone via PM's ?).
As I'm in group buy frenzy mode it seems, can I have one of these too ?
Cheers ...
MagiKelly
29-10-2005, 14:56
Still a couple left. I have added you to the list.
2 Wolf Man
2 Wildrover
1 Povarian
1 CraigM9
2 Scruff
1 Wayland
2 AndyN
1 Pterton
2 Moonraker
1 Shankly
2 Soa_uk
1 Bombadil
1 Innocent Bystander
1 Blankfisherman
3 Ogri the Trog
4 lignum vitae
2 Roy's Badger
1 stevo
1 big lizard
1 clipper
1 allanscot
1 gaz_miggy
1 Pignut
1 Morch
1 Angus Og
2 Elma
2 Grooveski
1 Bushbasher
1 Bumblebee
1 peds8045
1 Abbe Osram
1 Jon Pickett
1 stevem
1 monkey_pork
48 so far. So there are still 2 left.
Grooveski
31-10-2005, 00:01
A hammock in Bali........now you're talking.
I will take one if its still available.
MagiKelly
31-10-2005, 11:07
2 Wolf Man
2 Wildrover
1 Povarian
1 CraigM9
2 Scruff
1 Wayland
2 AndyN
1 Pterton
2 Moonraker
1 Shankly
2 Soa_uk
1 Bombadil
1 Innocent Bystander
1 Blankfisherman
3 Ogri the Trog
4 lignum vitae
2 Roy's Badger
1 stevo
1 big lizard
1 clipper
1 allanscot
1 gaz_miggy
1 Pignut
1 Morch
1 Angus Og
2 Elma
2 Grooveski
1 Bushbasher
1 Bumblebee
1 peds8045
1 Abbe Osram
1 Jon Pickett
1 stevem
1 monkey_pork
1 Moff8
49 so far. So there is only 1 left.
:lmao: So John, whens the forth group buy taking place :D
Oh go on John, I'll have your last one ;)
is there any space left for hammocks. if so id like one please!!
MagiKelly
31-10-2005, 22:35
2 Wolf Man
2 Wildrover
1 Povarian
1 CraigM9
2 Scruff
1 Wayland
2 AndyN
1 Pterton
2 Moonraker
1 Shankly
2 Soa_uk
1 Bombadil
1 Innocent Bystander
1 Blankfisherman
3 Ogri the Trog
4 lignum vitae
2 Roy's Badger
1 stevo
1 big lizard
1 clipper
1 allanscot
1 gaz_miggy
1 Pignut
1 Morch
1 Angus Og
2 Elma
2 Grooveski
1 Bushbasher
1 Bumblebee
1 peds8045
1 Abbe Osram
1 Jon Pickett
1 stevem
1 monkey_pork
1 Moff8
1 Phil562
1 Pignuts
51 so far of the 50 ordered. Looks like I will be dipping into my spares.
Okay Order book is now closed. Anyone from now on is on reserve list, or God forbid a fourth buy :eek: Surely Not!
And they did not arrive today so still waiting
MagiKelly
01-11-2005, 19:15
There here. Let the chaos begin.
Okay the price including postage and PayPal fees (and a luxury plastic envelope;) ) is £17.00 (higher bank charges, don't ask why, not even sure the bank knows). Anyway PayPal address is John"AT"MagiKelly.co.uk PM me if you want to send a cheque. Now make sure that you include your BCUK name and also that this is for the Hammock, not a Tarp or Ghost Ring :rolleyes:
BumbleBee and Allanscot have already paid so theirs are ready to post already.
John
Paypal sent and as ever :You_Rock_
Regards
innocent bystander
01-11-2005, 19:23
Hi John, paypal sent, but as before it's one of them silly echecks that takes a week to clear...
Cheers
Martin
Angus Og
01-11-2005, 19:38
Paypal sent
cheers
paypal sent... but then you knew that.
So, John, when are you arranging the mossie net group buy? :You_Rock_
payment sent. Thanks John.
PS check your PM i forgot to include my bcuk name in my payment - sorry. :o
peds8045
01-11-2005, 20:33
Just done the deed through PayPal...thanks a lot :beerchug:
MagiKelly
01-11-2005, 21:11
paypal sent... but then you knew that.
So, John, when are you arranging the mossie net group buy? :You_Rock_
I did ask but the supplier I use does not do them anymore. I could contact the supplier of the Eco System................
Anyway payments coming in thick and fast. looks like another night stuffing hammocks into bags and addressing them :rolleyes:
Ogri the trog
01-11-2005, 22:04
John,
You're a star
Paypal, PM and a bunch of good wishes on their way to you ;)
ATB
Ogri the trog
Abbe Osram
01-11-2005, 22:15
Hi John.
thanks for fixing us the hammocks.
I got myself an PayPal account and payed you the money just now.
thanks again
cheers
Abbe
MagiKelly
01-11-2005, 22:18
15 going in the post tonight. One to Sweden ;)
Many thanks for this..........Paypal sent.
Cheers...............Jon
Many thanks John,.. pm and paypal sent
Ian :notworthy :beerchug: :notworthy
Roy's Badger
02-11-2005, 09:32
Thanks John,
money zapping thru the interweb as a hammer at my keyboard... You're a star :beerchug:
looks like another night stuffing hammocks into bags and addressing them :rolleyes:
:lmao:
Got images of you dressed in red and signing "Ho ho ho"
:You_Rock_ John, thanks for all the hard work your putting in for us.
Thanks John....legend....
I am a bit of a paypal virgin, think I did it properly........can you confirm that you recieved my payment?
Thanks again...
stevo
MagiKelly
02-11-2005, 14:32
Thanks John....legend....
I am a bit of a paypal virgin, think I did it properly........can you confirm that you recieved my payment?
Thanks again...
stevo
Payment recieved. Should be posted tomorrow, in time for you to use at the weekend.
Another PP flying down to you John, cheers - I guess we have a few months yet to worry about Mossie nets !!!!
Thanks Shankly.....
The Joker
02-11-2005, 20:29
Sorted pp on its way :D
PM sent,
many thanks
Regards
Pignut
MagiKelly
03-11-2005, 01:29
Another PP flying down to you John, cheers - I guess we have a few months yet to worry about Mossie nets !!!!
Thanks Shankly.....
I have actually asked the manufacturer of the Ecosystem about buying the nets in bulk but have not heard anything yet. They may just tell me to get stuffed but as always, watch this space.
Blankfisherman
03-11-2005, 09:54
Pay pal on its way.
Many thanks
Tom
Just arrived, well done yet again :You_Rock_
Moonraker
03-11-2005, 10:41
Payment sent via paypal this morning :)
Two arrived here this morning - top boy! :You_Rock_
i'm off to check the post room then :D
EDIT
YAY...two hammocks sat there waiting for me.... :D
Thanks John.
Ogri the trog
03-11-2005, 14:57
Three arrived here this morning.
John, I don't know how you do it!
...But I'm glad that you did.
ATB
Ogri the trog
Angus Og
03-11-2005, 19:18
Cheers John got mine this afternoon. :You_Rock_
Was out this afternoon swinging about under the basha in the rain. :D
innocent bystander
03-11-2005, 19:30
Got mine in the post today as well :You_Rock_ . Not sure how it came so quick !!
hi john
paypal payment sent
thanks adam
peds8045
03-11-2005, 20:31
Got my new hammock today...thanks again. Whats the best lashing to use to secure it? Paracord, Climbing tape or what? Any advice gratefully received.
Pedro
Angus Og
03-11-2005, 20:47
Try here (https://www.pointnorth.co.uk/shop_product.asp?product_id=25 5) mate this is what I use. You can get 10m for about £2.
Angus Og
03-11-2005, 21:14
Got my new hammock today...thanks again. Whats the best lashing to use to secure it? Paracord, Climbing tape or what? Any advice gratefully received.
Pedro
Also thinking about using two of these (https://www.pointnorth.co.uk/shop_product.asp?product_id=66 0) instead of karabiners.
I’ve also sent away for the smaller sizes to try them out. 5mm (https://www.pointnorth.co.uk/shop_product.asp?product_id=65 9) 4mm (https://www.pointnorth.co.uk/shop_product.asp?product_id=65 8)
I'll post some pictures when I get them.
Bumblebee
03-11-2005, 21:30
One hammock was delivered at my place today as well, and it is a beauty!
monkey_pork
03-11-2005, 22:54
Fantastic - Top quailty mate, arrived safe and well this morning !
(Off to the PN website next then ...).
Cheers,
Mark
MagiKelly
04-11-2005, 00:15
Try here (https://www.pointnorth.co.uk/shop_product.asp?product_id=25 5) mate this is what I use. You can get 10m for about £2.
Is that stuff like climbing tape? There is no picture on the web site. I would be really keen to see some pictures or samples of this. I use climbing tape that I am very happy with but it costs about £1.50 a meter. Okay when I only had one hammock but now I am going to have spares for the kids etc I would like a cheaper option.
Angus Og
04-11-2005, 10:39
Is that stuff like climbing tape? There is no picture on the web site. I would be really keen to see some pictures or samples of this. I use climbing tape that I am very happy with but it costs about £1.50 a meter. Okay when I only had one hammock but now I am going to have spares for the kids etc I would like a cheaper option.
Hi John PM me your address and I’ll send you out two samples at 20mm and 25mm.
http://img495.imageshack.us/img495/7112/img00306rb.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
This screw gate karabiner weighs 60 grams.
Sounds like a group buy of tapes in the planning :D
MagiKelly
04-11-2005, 10:56
Hi John PM me your address and I’ll send you out two samples at 20mm and 25mm.
PM coming shortly.
From the picture it looks quite thin. How are the knots when you try to release them. looks like they could be pretty stiff.
As for a group buy at those prices you could order direct :p
John
Let us know what you think, when you have seen the samples.
Does look quite thin, I have some lovely red & orange climbing tape :p
With discount, I got it for a £1 a metre from Cotswolds
Angus Og
04-11-2005, 11:06
The knots come undone with a good tug. Never had any problems with them sticking and I'm no lightweight ;) Slight bit of stretch but just tie it a bit higher.
I use the same knots RM uses for the Eco System in the Bushcraft book.
Abbe Osram
04-11-2005, 11:20
The knots come undone with a good tug. Never had any problems with them sticking and I'm no lightweight ;) Slight bit of stretch but just tie it a bit higher.
I use the same knots RM uses for the Eco System in the Bushcraft book.
could you share the knot with me or do you have a picture?
cheers
Abbe
I see from the Point North website (https://www.pointnorth.co.uk/newsletter.asp) that they also sell midge netting.
6.90 a metre. But that's for a 3 metre width.
So, £20.70 for 3m x 3m.
That would cover a hammock nicely, I'd have thought. Now, how to secure it...
MagiKelly
04-11-2005, 13:13
The knots come undone with a good tug. Never had any problems with them sticking and I'm no lightweight ;) Slight bit of stretch but just tie it a bit higher.
I use the same knots RM uses for the Eco System in the Bushcraft book.
I use the same knots and find they work really well with the climbing tape. Also the climbing tape does not stretch at all but it will be interesting to see the difference.
MagiKelly
04-11-2005, 13:15
could you share the knot with me or do you have a picture?
cheers
Abbe
This should help
http://www.pyramidbodyguards.co.uk/raymears/hintsandtips.asp
Two lovely new Hammocks arrived this morning
cheers John :You_Rock_
Problem: how do you set up a hammock ( I'll have too get to a meet for some hands on tuition) :rolleyes:
Abbe Osram
04-11-2005, 13:21
This should help
http://www.pyramidbodyguards.co.uk/raymears/hintsandtips.asp
thanks a lot mate!!!
cheers
Abbe
Ogri the trog
04-11-2005, 14:53
For anyone wanting information about hammock use, try this for starters http://www.imrisk.com/cgi-bin/hwiki.pl
It has been the source of much information for me and makes a darned good read anyway.
ATB
Ogri the trog
Magikelly...........Hammock arrived this morning. Very pleased with it and quite surprised how light it is. Thank you for all you did. Abracadabra al caziz, there, you should have a pint infront of you right now..........Hope it worked..........Jon
The Joker
04-11-2005, 21:37
Cheers John,
Got my hammock this morning :You_Rock_
Angus Og
04-11-2005, 22:44
I use the same knots and find they work really well with the climbing tape. Also the climbing tape does not stretch at all but it will be interesting to see the difference.
This is not climbing tape and I recommend that you don’t use this instead of climbing tape for climbing. (Sorry gust covering my ass for legal reasons)
This does the same thing (not for climbing) but a lot cheaper why pay £15 climbing tape this works, trust me. ;)
Were not talking about a 300mm stretch here maybe 5mm- 10mm depending on how you tie the knots. Which I think has a lot do with it because it some times happens with the Eco System I have. :confused:
I apologise if I come across argumentative or angry far from it just been drinking Guinness all day. :beerchug:
Grooveski
05-11-2005, 02:30
You're right enough to disclaim and set the record straight.
I met a lad at the cimbing wall one day with olive green prussick cords hanging off his harness. I'd never seen that grade of rope in OG before so asked him where he'd got it. Turned out to be 6mm para-cord and he was a bit spooked to find out.
It was all knotted right and cut nicely to his custom length, he'd even practiced ascending using them, but they had no right to be on his rack, just a slip-up because it looked the part.
Roy's Badger
05-11-2005, 11:15
John, got my hammock yesterday. Looks a quality item and can't wait to test it out (sadly the missus wouldn't let me sling it in the bedroom :( ). Shame, tho, that my home made affair had the seams in it- dimensions and weight are very similar... ach, well. At the risk of sounding cliched.... :You_Rock_
Thanks once again.
Angus Og
05-11-2005, 13:26
Also thinking about using two of these (https://www.pointnorth.co.uk/shop_product.asp?product_id=66 0) instead of karabiners.
I’ve also sent away for the smaller sizes to try them out. 5mm (https://www.pointnorth.co.uk/shop_product.asp?product_id=65 9) 4mm (https://www.pointnorth.co.uk/shop_product.asp?product_id=65 8)
I'll post some pictures when I get them.
Got the steel O rings samples this morning. Personally I’m going to be buy the 5mm by 35mm this is about the right size for the hammock and easy to tie the tape on to.
So from Point North you can get 10m of 20mm (http://www.profabrics.co.uk/shop/show_product_info.php?id=WPP20-99) of tape and two 5mm by 35mm (http://www.profabrics.co.uk/shop/show_product_info.php?id=GSO35 ) steel O rings for £5.00 posted which I think is dam good.
http://img493.imageshack.us/img493/3788/img00421110yu.th.jpg (http://img493.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img00421110yu.jpg )
The one on the left is 5mm by 35mm, 20. g
The one in the centre is 4mm by 25mm, 9.3 g
The one on the right is 6mm by 55mm, 27.2 g
And the screw gate karabiner I use is 1 = 60 g
http://img493.imageshack.us/img493/8233/img0043216yr.th.jpg (http://img493.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0043216yr.jpg)
Steel O rings next to the RM Eco System steel O ring on the top.
http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/1828/img00451312xh.th.jpg (http://img465.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img00451312xh.jpg )
And a close up of the 5mm by 35mm next to the Eco System O ring.
Click on the pictures to enlarge
Hammock no. 2 arrived today. Thanks for all your work on this John. :You_Rock_
MagiKelly
05-11-2005, 20:18
If you are going to use the rings then you can still attach them to the rope that comes with the hammocks and then tie the tape to them. Certianly the carabiners I have are pretty heavy so the rings would be lighter, a lot lighter.
Also that is a great price. The rings alone are about £3 at my local boat chandlers. For my caribiners and climbing tape I spent a total of £35. Having recieved the tape from Angus Og (thanks again) I can say the climbing tape is much better but then again it costs way more and the tape is clearly doing the job so, I will keep the climbing tape on my hammoch but I will try be using the new tape on the others, probably the rings too.
Hi John
I know it's a bit cheeky but..... :D
If you have any more hammocks can i have one please?
Thankyou
Ian
Hello John, If you do have any extra hammocks or if you give in and do another group buy I will have another one please.
Thanks for your help.
Andrew. :)
John, Is this a fourth group buy in the brewing :eek:
MagiKelly
05-11-2005, 23:18
Probably not, it just means the 15 hammocks that people have not yet contacted me about may end up in a different home ;)
Bumblebee
06-11-2005, 11:07
Probably not, it just means the 15 hammocks that people have not yet contacted me about may end up in a different home ;)
15! :eek: :rant:Just give me a list and I'll send my dogs around to lick them to death...
Seriously, a group buy is a service some of us have done for the community and if it is abused...
gaz_miggy
06-11-2005, 13:20
im sorry i am one of the culprits :sad6: but i cant send check off till 2moz so i will alpolagize but it will defonaltly be with u with in the next few days
MagiKelly
06-11-2005, 16:21
15! :eek: :rant:Just give me a list and I'll send my dogs around to lick them to death...
Seriously, a group buy is a service some of us have done for the community and if it is abused...
Aaaaaargh! Just typed a long reply then lost it when I hit submit :(
Anyway to sumarise I have not PMed anyone I just expect they will notice within a week or so of the hammocks arriving. After then I will PM them and after that they go to someone else. So far with the first two buys this has worked fine. The only person who did not get back to me after repeated PM ing was Dhole and Nooky noy has his hammock. Given that there are always people asking for more hammocks I am pretty relaxed about the posability of people not claiming theirs. Someone else will take it and it will be them who has missed out.
It actually suits if people claim their hammocks over a week, it means I do not have to address and post 50 hammocks all at once.
sorry for the delay i have just sent payment by paypal
thanks for the chance to sleep in the air and off the ground.
MagiKelly
06-11-2005, 22:50
Got the steel O rings samples this morning. Personally I’m going to be buy the 5mm by 35mm this is about the right size for the hammock and easy to tie the tape on to.
So from Point North you can get 10m of 20mm (https://www.pointnorth.co.uk/shop_product.asp?product_id=25 5) of tape and two 5mm by 35mm (https://www.pointnorth.co.uk/shop_product.asp?product_id=65 9) steel O rings for £5.00 posted which I think is dam good.
Just ordered 8 of the rings and I have ordered 10m of the nylon 20mm webbing. It says it is softer so I thought I would try it as well for comparison. £0.50 per m though so will have to see if it is worth the difference.
Angus Og
07-11-2005, 16:12
Went out yesterday and try out the steel O rings and they worked out a treat.
http://img491.imageshack.us/img491/5683/img00524iy.th.jpg (http://img491.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img00524iy.jpg) http://img491.imageshack.us/img491/6969/img00551fi.th.jpg (http://img491.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img00551fi.jpg)
MagiKelly
07-11-2005, 17:52
Went out yesterday and try out the steel O rings and they worked out a treat.
Is that the same sort of distance from the hammock to the O ring as on the Ecosystem? I am interested as one of my reasons for considering the change to O rings is that it will raise the ridge line of my insect netting.
Angus Og
07-11-2005, 18:03
There’s not much of a difference.
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/2841/img00742ro.th.jpg (http://img266.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img00742ro.jpg)
MagiKelly
07-11-2005, 20:14
There’s not much of a difference.
Thanks :beerchug:
2blackcat
07-11-2005, 20:53
Er, John
If you do end up with spares ....... hello, mate. I'll take one off your hands
hi john
thanks my hammock arrived today. i when to the post office and it had MagiKelly appeared
thanks again:You_Rock_
Blankfisherman
08-11-2005, 09:09
John
Mine arrived yesterday.
Many many thanks
Tom
My two arrived this morning.
Much obliged :240: :thanks:
Hammock arrived today thank you. :)
Andrew
Abbe Osram
08-11-2005, 20:18
:( :( :(
I am still waiting.....buuuhuuuhuu... I guess Lapland is a long way off the road.... :(
//Abbe
Abbe, It will be worth the wait when it does arrive though. I hope that you dont have to wait too much longer for yours to arrive. Its horrible hearing everyone recieve theirs and still having to wait for your own one to arrive:)
Andrew.
thanks mate it arrived today all i have to do now is wait for the trees in my back garden to grow and i can put it up!!!!!!!!
This question to those who are using O-Rings or Karabinas and isn't a dig at why you use them, but i am genuinely curious of there use.....
How does the use of o-ring with these hammocks improve there ease of "putting uppyness" and are they better than using the metal hooks that come pre-fitted to the hammock. I've only slept in these hammocks once and just used two lengths of webbing to tie it up with and didn't have any probs.
I was just curious if they would make my life easier in any way????
TIA.
MagiKelly
09-11-2005, 10:33
You can use the hooks and there is no great problem, however, there is the potential for the tape knot to come off the hook. Unlikely but still a risk.
The reason the hammock is hung by tieing the tapes to the tree THEN adjusting the hieght by tieing a knot at the rings is so that you can make the adjustmentds to the hammock hieght under the cover of the tarp. So you can have it set high for sleeping and then adjustt it to a lower position for sitting on during the day, without getting wet. It is also much quicker and simpler than trying to re do the knot at the tree. there is also the advantage that the loops of spare tape hanging at the rings act as drip lines and stop any water working its way along the tapes from getting to the hammock itself.
Just like to say thanks John, I received my parcel today. That will keep one child happy and leave the other sharing with dad :-) If only for a couple of more years. I was grateful for your write-up on the steel rings, I hadn't realised just how useful they could be in bad weather set ups.. You learn something new every day..
Once again cheers for the group buy, Shankly.
You can use the hooks and there is no great problem, however, there is the potential for the tape knot to come off the hook. Unlikely but still a risk.
The reason the hammock is hung by tieing the tapes to the tree THEN adjusting the hieght by tieing a knot at the rings is so that you can make the adjustmentds to the hammock hieght under the cover of the tarp. So you can have it set high for sleeping and then adjustt it to a lower position for sitting on during the day, without getting wet. It is also much quicker and simpler than trying to re do the knot at the tree. there is also the advantage that the loops of spare tape hanging at the rings act as drip lines and stop any water working its way along the tapes from getting to the hammock itself.
Cheers for that John :You_Rock_
MagiKelly
10-11-2005, 20:40
Okay only 6 hammocks still to be posted. A couple of them have teh cheques in the post and the others I will get round to PMing at some point.
Now an update. I have contacted the company that makes the insect netting for the EcoSystem and am currently trying to get a price for a bulk purchase of a netting set up similar to the Ecosystem set up. This may not work out but I thought it best to mention it in case you are about to buy netting and can wait a little while.
jamesoconnor
10-11-2005, 21:30
hi there magickelly.
id be well up for getting my hands on 1 or 2 nets for my hammock if it was possible. this is a great idea to try and have a bulk buy. well done, even if its just for trying!! :D
regards
james
wildrover
10-11-2005, 23:20
Received both hammocks today.
Thanks for all the trouble John , You're a star
The possibility of the eco type midgie net sounds splendid if pyramid are up for it.
cheers :beerchug:
John,
Arived this "am" many thanks for your efforts!!!!!
If you are ever this way out and you need anything dont hessitate to ask
And sorry for the constant pm'ing!
So, *two* midgey nets then!
gaz_miggy
11-11-2005, 12:14
hey myn came to day cheers :beerchug:
MagiKelly
11-11-2005, 12:32
So, *two* midgey nets then!
We'll see.
It turns out that the company has just changed hands and there is some doubt about the manufacturing of the EcoSystem continueing. Not sure if this is just with them or at all. either way they do not even have the patterns any more and I am having to send my net as an example of the sort of thing we are looking for.
Once they have that I should be able to get a price. The finished product should operate the same but will almost certainly look slightly different. I have also asked about making it about 150mm longer as I always felt the RM netting was a little short.
Like I say we will see.
MagiKelly
11-11-2005, 12:34
So, *two* midgey nets then!
Anyway, have you tried sleeping in your yet? Still waiting to find out if you are returning them or not ;)
got mine today. Thanks - much appreciated.
Abbe Osram
11-11-2005, 15:48
Hi MagiKelly,
My hammock came today :) Thanks a lot for getting us such a great deal! :You_Rock_
thanks
Abbe
Moonraker
13-11-2005, 02:37
Why does the postman get to Santa Claus Land before sunny France? :D
Still, both hammocks arrived safely and ready to test. Many thanks for all your hard work John. Greatly appreciated.
MagiKelly
13-11-2005, 11:26
Why does the postman get to Santa Claus Land before sunny France? :D
Santa insisted on an efficient postal structure befoe he agreed to locate there. In fact it was the postal system that was the biggest reason for him moving from the North Pole.
lignum vitae
13-11-2005, 13:47
Picked em up yesterday, thanks very much for all your time and efforts, they will get a lot of use.
gaz_miggy
15-11-2005, 18:37
hey i used my to day havnt slept in it yet but iv set it up and it feels realy cumfy dont see any problems with it thanks again magikelly
MagiKelly
18-11-2005, 00:07
Okay, everyone has claimed their hammocks and the last two are being posted tomorrow. If you have not recieved yours by the early part of next week then drop me a line.
So far I have about half a dozen people looking for another hammock and there is one person with an interest in quite a few so amazingly enough a fourth group buy may be on the cards so if you are intersted you can post a note here or just keep your eyes open for a new thread.
The Joker
18-11-2005, 00:13
John :You_Rock_ doing all these group buy's must be a logistical nightmare, if I was you take 5 and have a breather :D
2blackcat
18-11-2005, 00:15
Hi, Jon
I'm showing my interest in one
Not sure if I'm just trying to keep you busy :confused:
2blackcat
18-11-2005, 00:19
Hi, John
I'm showing my interest in one
Not sure if I'm just trying to keep you busy :confused:
MagiKelly
18-11-2005, 00:51
John :You_Rock_ doing all these group buy's must be a logistical nightmare, if I was you take 5 and have a breather :D
To be honest the hardest part is the packing and getting to the post office. Dealing with the manufacturer is very similar to what I do for a living so it is no great problem.
And remember I am not saying there will be a fourth group buy I am just saying you can log an interest here in case there is. It saves me getting a lot of PMs asking about any more hammocks ;)
Arrived safe n sound John. Cheers mate and sorry once again for my lapse :o
Scuba Pete
20-11-2005, 22:00
I will have a Hammock if you have one spare.
Thanks
Pete
wolf man
21-11-2005, 11:09
Hi John
got my two safe and sound. They are much better then i expected... :You_Rock_
Much appreciated, can't wait to get out and try them
:beerchug:
MagiKelly
21-11-2005, 11:36
They are much better then i expected...
Why would you order them if you expected them to not be good quality ;)
Glad to hear they turned up safe and sound.
Povarian
21-11-2005, 13:37
Ack, been a tad slow this time - latest hammock arrived safe and sound.
Ta.
MagiKelly
21-11-2005, 15:01
Ack, been a tad slow this time - latest hammock arrived safe and sound.
Ta.
Is that you have been a tad slow to say or the hammock was slow to turn up.?
2 hammocks arrived today. thanks john for everything I appreciate all your hard work. :You_Rock_
Andrew.
Povarian
24-11-2005, 10:49
Is that you have been a tad slow to say or the hammock was slow to turn up.?No, no,no - it's me that's been a tad slow. :eek: At what age are my senior moments likely to join up and become continuous?
hello there,being new to the site i have missed the group buy for hammocks.I don't suppose there would be any spare if so how mutch would they be.If i'm in luck PM me.thanks hamish.
MagiKelly
11-12-2005, 23:41
Sorry Hamish I had a couple of spares but they went to others that had expressed an interest. There are also a few in front of you that have asked for one and I did not have enough for.
There is always a chance of a fourth group buy so keep your eyes pealed. If it did go ahead it would likely be because of the demand brought about if the midgie netting group buy works out.
Oh and welcome to BCUK.
Just to register my interest in a hamock or two if another group buy happens. Hammock looks well made from the pics and is a good length too. Fingers crossed!
The hammocks are well made.
They happily handle my 10 stone son... oh, and they'll also handle a 6'3" near 19stone monster, too. That's me.
Willowbark
10-01-2006, 00:13
Hi there
I was too disorganised to get an order in last time. Could you put me down for six this time around
Many thanks for all your efforts
Willowbark
Ogri the trog
10-01-2006, 01:08
The hammocks are well made.
.. oh, and they'll also handle a 6'3" near 19stone monster, too. That's me.
Soa_uk, are you my long-lost twin brother ;)
ATB
Ogri the trog
MagiKelly
10-01-2006, 10:37
Beginning to look inevitable that there will be a forth group buy. I have emailed the maker to find out what the current prices will be. Once I have that info I will start the Fourth Hammock Group Buy thread :rolleyes: That will take us to 200 hammocks and the insect netting is heading towards 100 and to think I thought I would struggle to get the original 40 names.
Topcat02
10-01-2006, 11:22
Yippee,
I'll probably have at least 2.
MagiKelly
15-01-2006, 01:04
Fourth Hammock Group Buy now officially posted here
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/community/showthread.php?t=10456
This buy will be going ahead but I have not transferred any of the interest from this thread. you NEED to post on the new thread. I have found that it is the transferring of names that causes problems as people are not subscribed to the new thread and lose track of progress.