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Have sourced some cheap crooked knife blades, rough forged, ready for handles. Optional satin and mirror finishes available.
$10.00 per blade, $3 shipping (depending on 10+ orders) Works out at about £7.60 per blade (basic) :D
Anyone interested? :)
Yep, I could be up for one of those.
Any pictures?
Likewise. I have a spoon knife but a proper crooked knife woould be handy and I guess fabricating a handle would be reasonably straightforward. Pics would be great.
beachlover
27-09-2005, 23:23
Me too. Pics would be good, but I'll take one.
demographic
27-09-2005, 23:55
Have sourced some cheap crooked knife blades, rough forged, ready for handles. Optional satin and mirror finishes available.
$10.00 per blade, $3 shipping (depending on 10+ orders) Works out at about £7.60 per blade (basic) :D
Anyone interested? :)
I would like to see a picture of one but am interested also :)
Bardster
28-09-2005, 00:08
I could take a couple :)
swamp donkey
28-09-2005, 00:20
I would also like one please ., :) Any idea of size?
Ogri the trog
28-09-2005, 01:34
Yup,
Me an' all.
Ogri the trog
Millbilly
28-09-2005, 02:55
Yep, count me in chaps, I'll take two. :)
one for me, please! Ronin, when you say rough forged, do you mean the blade surface is kind of rough and black, or do you mean it doesn't have bevels or anything? That said, I'll still have a go! Maybe I could find somebody on british blades that could grind an edge if need be.
A big thumbs up for Ronin for organising it!
Motorbike Man
28-09-2005, 09:25
I'll have one as well please :D
(picks himself of the floor and dusts off the footprints) ;)
Here the basic specs.
These are 01 tool steel crooked knives, not hook knives. As used for hogging and stripping wood a la Pinnock Smith etc...
The temper can be specified (if you feel you need too) but the forger knows the work the blades will be doing.
The blades are forge black, shaped and just need to be sharpened. The tangs are also drilled for pins at no extra charge.
The curvature is straight with the return over the last 1"-11/2" or so. But you can specify a more aggressive curve if you wish.
Thickness is about 1/8" or about 3.175 mm.
Pricing $10 for basic blade add $10 for a satin finish, add $20 for a mirror finish (apparently takes time to avoid a heat problems with the temper at the edge of the profile)
Pictures are being updated and I will stick them up once they are here.
One caveat: I am buying these sight unseen, I have had some good discussions with maker and he seems cool :cool: but at the price, I could'nt say no. The killer was the postage but with a group buy....happy days :D :D
Sounds like everyone is a bit keen then. :D :eek:
MagiKelly
28-09-2005, 10:00
Don't forget that if these are coming from the US there will be import duty, VAT and handling fee added to the price.
One for me too, please.
Jim.
BorderReiver
28-09-2005, 11:30
Me too please.
will probably be interested in 2 or 3 please
another one this way please ;)
Angus Og
28-09-2005, 12:55
I'll take one.
Thanks
Buckshot
28-09-2005, 13:19
I'm sort of interested but I'll wait for a picture before I commit.
Cheers
Mark
I'm sort of interested but I'll wait for a picture before I commit.
Cheers
Mark
Ditto.....
I might be interested, but an idea of the type of crooked knife and the angle of the blade would be good - as the following shows the variety some manufacturers offer:
http://www.sculpturetools.com/kestrel/diag.gif
Quick update...forgot to add earlier.
Blades are approx 20mm wide with a 1.5 - 2" tang and can be up to 9" long (total length)
Blade curvature can be specified and can cover most of the profiles in Match's pic.
It may pay to agree on 1 or two profiles for all blades. Waiting to get the new pics then will add them to the thread :D
Cheers for the update ronin. I think you are right on ordering one or two styles as sorting out everyone with their custom model would be a real pain.
:)
Ed
Millbilly
29-09-2005, 05:32
I think the profile "c", or possibley "e" Would be the best for what i have in mind, but would love to hear the opinions of the more experienced forum members. What do you 'orrible have to say on the matter? :D
On second thoughts, e looks a bit extreme... Im going with c. ;)
Profiles c,h and 3 all look good to me, but likewise, I'd be interested to hear from someone experienced with them.
Ronin, are they really 9" long, or was that a typo? With a 2" tang that basically makes the blade about 7", and a crooked machete! If they're all different sizes "up to" 9" then somebody better pipe up with a suggested size fast, or we'll be forever getting so many people to agree.
Thanks again for being such a good sport!
Squidge110
29-09-2005, 09:35
I would like one , just let us know when and where to send a cheque.
Motorbike Man
29-09-2005, 10:28
I'd be happy with a 'c' blade
Yup, 'c' blade looks good to me too.
BorderReiver
29-09-2005, 11:05
My vote is for c,h or 3. :)
I'lll just point out to folk that the picture I posted isn't of the ACTUAL blades - its from another crook knife manufacturer's website of the blade shapes they offer. Although if these are being custom made, then I'm sure they're useful as a guide. I'd put myself down for something similar to 'c'.
Also to reiterate the question about blade length/tang - is that total including handle? If so, what are the handle dimensions?
Match i think theyre were initially described as ready for handles
Blade style C, H or 3 would do me too :)
Im in, Blade c looks good
Hedgehog
29-09-2005, 14:08
Count me in too please.
C,3,H or similar would be great.
Cheers ;)
clcuckow
29-09-2005, 14:16
Will he be doing any lefties? If so I would be interested assuming I like what a see when the pics are posted.
Just to clarify what Match has mentioned. The profile pic he posted in NOT from the forger that will be making the blades but as they can be forged to any profile you wish, they are still relevant.
Yes the blade length is accurate as quoted to me when I asked;
"That's pretty much up to the client. Generally between 6 and 9 inches total length. I like a 1.5 to 2 inch tang for stability so blade length would be anywhere from 4-7"
Lefties shouldnt be a problem. I think the general consensus here is that we should choose two profiles and 1 length and stick to that, we can always order more later should folks be happy to. Handles are available in traditional and slip style (looks like a long,fat knife blade, good for splitting) and in various woods BUT this will significantly affect the postage and delivery times and cost. All I have organised so far are the basic blades, with a variety of finishes available. No handles but the blades have been drilled ready to accept them.
Just to re-iterate, these are full length crook knives not hook knives. Having used them extensively in the past, they are very versatile tools but not suited to fine detail or very small work like spoons etc. with acute curves or angles. I know it is hard to comment without pics but as soon I have them, they will be up.
I have had a couple of pm's about hoof knives. I have used hoof knives (ex-farrier) and they are an ideal starter knife but they dont encourage good wrist position which leads to real joint fatigue :eek: if you step up to a bigger and flatter crook knife.
Preferred payment is by PayPal both for me and the maker's, will give us a faster turnaround and easier to make sure all the order is in. Can take chques if I have to.(pauses for breath....)
Sean.
Here is one of the first pics I received but better quality ones to follow. :D
http://www.arabianlines.com/crkive.jpg
Please count me in for a couple of "c" style blades.
Steve
i will jump on the bandwagon to count me in for one
'c' style sounds good - and under a tenner what have we to loose!!:D
I would be in for 2 blades, two with different curves would be great.
Jimbo's article on Crooked knives is worth a look.
http://www.oldjimbo.com/survival/ck.html
Aaron York has done some great handles on crooked knives....I would love to be able to do something like this but I imagine mine will be more like the rag wrapped example in Jimbo's article :D
http://www.geocities.com/atyork2001/brass.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/atyork2001/knife.htm
mojofilter
30-09-2005, 06:05
I will take one too, please!
wolf man
30-09-2005, 09:07
Put me down for one please, a C blade would be ideal. :D
BorderReiver
30-09-2005, 11:49
Are lefties possible as part of the group buy?
i'l have one too please!!!
swamp donkey
30-09-2005, 17:41
C profile would be good for me as well
thanks
demographic
30-09-2005, 20:50
Yet another vote for the C,H and 3 profiles :)
7 looks handy also but as I have never used one I could just be talking complete bull****e ;)
http://www.sculpturetools.com/kestrel/diag.gif
The above graphic of blade profiles is the maker of the front two crooked knives.
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/7133/kestrelspoon19yu.jpg
Kestrel Tool, Gregg Blomberg, forged the two knives in the forefront of this image. Really excellent tools. North Bay forge made the 3rd knife and the scorp.
I am looking forward to having a longer crooked knife than these. One 5" or so blade with a gentle hook at the end and a 5" with more of a curve would be a perfect pair.
Lost_Patrol
30-09-2005, 22:08
Please could I order one too. A C or similar profile looks ideal.
Thanks,
Andy
Willowbark
30-09-2005, 23:14
Sounds good to me, I'll go for two please.
Willowbark
I'll change mine to a yes please, but as to shape, I have no real idea as I'm not sure what is best.
Maybe like Jimbo's?
clcuckow
02-10-2005, 11:56
Here is one of the first pics I received but better quality ones to follow. :D
http://www.arabianlines.com/crkive.jpg
They seem a bit broad in comparison to others I have seen?
Hi folks,
CROOKED KNIFE UPDATE
Here are the picks for the crooked knife blades.
http://www.arabianlines.com/crknive.jpg
http://www.arabianlines.com/crknive2.jpg
http://www.arabianlines.com/crknive3.jpg
http://www.arabianlines.com/crknive4.jpg
The profiles available (just to keep things simple)
Profile A: http://www.arabianlines.com/profileA_5inches.jpg
Profile H: http://www.arabianlines.com/profileH_5inches.jpg
Blade spec is 3mm High Carbon 01 tool steel, 19mm wide, 7" long (5"blade, 2" tang)
Tangs are pre-drilled for handles. Blades are edge ground and heat treated, ready for sharpening.
Left and right hand versions available.
Unit cost on a purchase of 10 or more will work out at £12.00 per blade. This includes unit cost, import duty and VAT and delivery by recorded delivery to any address in the UK. (Can deliver international just email me the location)
Preferred payment by PayPal but I can take cheques. Just to clarify, I am not doing this for profit, just want to save on postage.
Schwert and ssj have ordered seperately as they are US based. Maybe they can post a review when they get their blades?
The list below is everyone who has expressed an interest. If you would still like to order then, (to save the posting and pm's) email me directly on seanpetty@freeuk.com
You need to let me know
number of blade(s).
profile choice(s)
left or right handed.
delivery address.
payment choice.
This is going to be a one off as the forger will be doubling his prices after this order due to increased material costs which he cant absorb.
List of members that expressed an interest.
Wayland x 1
Doc x 1
Beachlover x 1
Demographic x 1
Bardster x 2
Swamp Donkey x 1
Ogri x 1
Millbilly x 2
philaw x 1
moduser x 1
led x 1
motorbike man x 1
phil562 x 1
JimH x 1
BorderReiver x 1
Scruff x 2
g4ghb x 1
Angus Og x 1
HedgeHog x 1
Maver x 1
Scally x 1
Josh x 1
Willowbark x 1
Apologies if i have missed any one.
S.
mojofilter
08-10-2005, 16:11
List of members that expressed an interest.
Wayland x 1
Doc x 1
Beachlover x 1
Demographic x 1
Bardster x 2
Swamp Donkey x 1
Ogri x 1
Millbilly x 2
philaw x 1
moduser x 1
led x 1
motorbike man x 1
phil562 x 1
JimH x 1
BorderReiver x 1
Scruff x 2
g4ghb x 1
Angus Og x 1
HedgeHog x 1
Maver x 1
Scally x 1
Josh x 1
Willowbark x 1
Apologies if i have missed any one.
S.
You missed me :D
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/community/showpost.php?p=112595&postcount=45
Can I have 1 in profile h please?
cheers
mojo
Motorbike Man
08-10-2005, 19:21
Email and PayPal sent :You_Rock_
I would like to see a picture of one but am interested also :)
are you the same demographic with a KX supermoto from carlisle
demographic
08-10-2005, 22:11
are you the same demographic with a KX supermoto from carlisle
Are you called Alan and from Newcastle?
Spoon sounds familiar, same bloke who owns a CCM?
Small world eh? :D
Email & payment sent :beerchug:
Ogri the trog
09-10-2005, 08:35
Email and Payment on its way.
Many thanx
Ogri the trog
Angus Og
09-10-2005, 08:46
Email and payment sent.
Thanks
demographic
09-10-2005, 21:48
Have sent the twelve quid through Paypal for the right handed H profile crook knife blade.
Cheers, Scott :)
Soz for delay.
Can I get 2 of the right handed H profile blades please?
Oh and can I pay by cheque? Oh I see I can. Email sent :thanks:
Profile A, please. Right handed.
I will Paypal tonight, sorry for any delay, was away@weekend...
I presume your email address is the one associated with your Paypal account...
Jim.
PM sent! - sorry for the slow responce (a combination of being away and agony of choice....;) )
Thanks for your efforts Ronin!
I just had a note from the maker. He has had to change his source of O-1 for this project. He expects my two blades to be ready in about 2 weeks.
Interestingly I choose both of those profiles for myself also. These are going to be fun I think. I am looking for some interesting tree crotches for the handles.
Motorbike Man
10-10-2005, 20:41
I just had a note from the maker. He has had to change his source of O-1 for this project. He expects my two blades to be ready in about 2 weeks.
Interestingly I choose both of those profiles for myself also. These are going to be fun I think. I am looking for some interesting tree crotches for the handles.
Schwert, you wouldn't happen to know any good links for info by any chance would you? Coutel posted one over on BB but I've not been able to find much more.
demographic
10-10-2005, 20:44
I presume your email address is the one associated with your Paypal account...
Err so do I :confused: :(
Jon,
I am completey new to the use of these traditonal crooked knives. All mine are the short Kestrel Tool carvers...about a 2" blade at the max. I think the best source of info I know of is Jimbo's article. Hoodoo probably has an article or at least some photos on his crooked knives too.
http://www.oldjimbo.com/survival/ck.html
Online I have found some interesting handles done by Aaron York, but this is more about what could be done rather than using or what I will do.
http://www.geocities.com/atyork2001/knife.htm
It seems that Mike, the maker for this deal, seems to use straight handles on his crooked knives. My Kestrel knives all but one, have curved upswept handles. I am going to try and find suitable tree crooks that will make what I think of as a lazy L shaped handle. I have no idea how I will exactly work these up but I do not want a straight handle on these.
I have a traditionally handled spoon knife coming from a friend. The handle on this was done in wood supplied by Jimbo, so I should have a fine example of what to shoot for on these knives. I will post a photo of this knife when it arrives.
I think Mears has a birch bark canoe making DVD that he may have used a traditional crooked knife. I would be interested in reviewing his use.
I am an open book on these knives...with blank pages...I cannot wait to give them a shot.
I did a short search here and found these links:
Pictures of Hoodoo's collection in this thread
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/community/showthread.php?t=7657&highlight=crooked+knife
Link from Jimbo that illustrates handles well:
http://www.poleandpaddle.com/crookedknives.html
Which I found in this thread, which has 2 other useful links:
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/community/showthread.php?t=5737&highlight=crooked+knife
Hoodoo's bottom knife has the sort of lazy L handle I want on mine. The Pole and Paddle link from Jimbo has plenty of examples too and use instructions.
Hi all,
Thanks for all the PMs and emails and for anyone who is not sure, seanpetty@freeuk.com is the PayPal address. Been struggling to get 5 mins to post to reply... :rolleyes:
As Schwert has mentioned, Mike's (the forger) steel supply has changed but that wont affect our order as we are on a 3-4 week delivery schedule anyway. Mike will be sending pics through at every stage of the forging so I will post them as they come in.
I will have to close the book on this order on Friday 12 noon so i can get the final details to Mike. Anyone else else interested will have to get their order to me by then. The prices will double after this order!
I will post a list of users and their orders Friday PM and will confirm the order with Mike on Friday night to allow for any changes etc.
Any problems email me on seanpetty@freeuk.com. Dont always get chance to pick up my PMs so the email is most reliable.
S.
Motorbike Man
12-10-2005, 11:17
Cheers Schwert :D
Hi folks.
This order is now closed and I will start sending it through to Mike. :D
The members below are the ones who have paid and/or ordered so if you are missing or the order is wrong let me know ASAP on seanpetty@freeuk.com (and dont forget your username!). Doesnt mean I havent had the order, I just may have missed you of the list! :o
Bumblebee x 2 (A+H) Righthanded
Bardster x 2 (A+H) Lefthanded
Lost Patrol x 1 (H) Righthanded
Angus Og x 2 (A+H) Righthanded
Moduser x 2 (A+H) Righthanded
JimH x 1 (A) Righthanded
Swampy Donkey x 2 (A+H) Righthanded
Phillaw x 1 (H) Lefthanded
Scruff x 2 (H) Righthanded
g4ghb x 1 (H) Righthanded
Millbilly x 2 (A+H) Righthanded
Demographic x 1 (H) Righthanded
Motorbike Man x 1 (H) Righthanded
led x 1 (H) Righthanded
Scally x 2 (A+H) Righthanded
Maver x 2 (A+H) Righthanded
Beachlover x 1 (H) Lefthanded
Ogri the Trog x 1 (H) Righthanded :sad6: ;)
Elma x 1 (H) Righthanded
Thanks.
Sean.
I'll Take one too, profile H please right handed
Ogri the trog
14-10-2005, 22:38
Hi folks.
This order is now closed and I will start sending it through to Mike. :D
............
Ogri the Trog...........
Sean.
Sean,
For my peace of mind, could you update the list to include my order for 1 off R/H profile "H" please. Email, payment and contact details already sent.
ATB
Ogri the trog
Email sent Sean, my name not listed, although you have Moduser down twice and his order is the same as mine :confused: , details on the email just sent
Mark
Ogri the trog
15-10-2005, 19:11
Hi folks.
Ogri the Trog x 1 (H) Righthanded :sad6: ;)
Thanks.
Sean.
No worries mate, cheers ;)
Ogri the trog
BorderReiver
19-10-2005, 21:49
Bugger!! I go away for two weeks and miss the boat. :( .
If you get stuck with a lefty blade give me a shout :)
Motorbike Man
28-10-2005, 14:05
Any news on a delivery date?
I just heard from Mike today. His steel order has not yet arrived. He is expecting steel in a couple of weeks.
Motorbike Man
28-10-2005, 18:00
That's cool. I just realised my previous post might have sounded a bit grumpy, it wasn't meant that way at all, just curios was all :rolleyes:
Just had the update from Mike, steel delivery is causing him headaches. :censored: as he put it!
I've told him we all have itchy palms but i dont think overall it will put delivery back that much.
Possible end of Nov/first week Dec delivery (note the possible) Will update more when I hear back from Mike. :cool:
Jon, no worries ;)
Mike (Border Reiver), there is a reserve list for the next order if you are interested?
Motorbike Man
29-10-2005, 14:55
Just had the update from Mike, steel delivery is causing him headaches. :censored: as he put it!
I've told him we all have itchy palms but i dont think overall it will put delivery back that much.
Possible end of Nov/first week Dec delivery (note the possible) Will update more when I hear back from Mike. :cool:
Jon, no worries ;)
Mike (Border Reiver), there is a reserve list for the next order if you are interested?
That's cool :)
BorderReiver
31-10-2005, 20:20
Just
Mike (Border Reiver), there is a reserve list for the next order if you are interested?
Yes please. :)
Left handed if possible.
Cheers.
Millbilly
05-11-2005, 05:09
Hiya guys, has anyone thought about how theyre going to handle there crooked blades? Im Currently in the process of trying to make something a bit like this... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y200/millbilly/crookedhandle002.jpg
I know it a crappy pic, but you get the idea. Im pretty new to this carving lark, but thought this would be an excellent project to get me started. Its a woodpecker, and the flat face where your thumb goes, is spooned out to make it more comfortable. Any one else started thinking about handles yet, or got any advice for me on my project? :D
Just read this and want to make it clear that the handle in the pic is not my work, but is one that i own and am trying to copy! The one in the pic was made by a Canadian (NS) guy named Bubby Moore.
Two weeks ago I cut myself a branch crook that I am going to use for one of my crooked knives. I think I will start a bit simple on this without any elaborate carvings. I intend to use copper rivets and rawhide to affix my first handle.
BTW Mike received the steel last week and was starting the project over the weekend.
Bumblebee
24-11-2005, 16:51
Has anybody some status information? Will they be here before christmas?
here here....i'm becomin slightly concerned :morpheus:
No need to panic chaps :(
Have heard from Mike...delivery date will be on or around Dec 5th.
Sorry for late update..Pc is playing up something :censored: :censored: rotten.
As soon as they land on my doorstep, I will be sending out the next day to avoid the Xmas crush :)
Just had another update from Mike.
Just finishing our batch, should be shipping next week.
He has also sent through some cracking pics of the work in progress which I have uploaded to an old flickr account HERE (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bcuk_pics/68717228/) :cool: :) .
:notworthy :)
clcuckow
30-11-2005, 23:52
Hope that last photo is not a real quench. It way, way, to hot.
Bumblebee
01-12-2005, 00:09
Just finishing our batch, should be shipping next week
So not in our hands before christmas then unless he sends them to you by DHL/UPS?
Hope that last photo is not a real quench. It way, way, to hot.
My thoghts exactly! Could be camera sensor response, they can be a bit odd looking at hot stuff. But looks closer to forging than HT temp in the pic!
Millbilly
09-12-2005, 04:35
Any news on these yet? any idea of a delivery time? :confused:
Motorbike Man
14-12-2005, 13:05
Just a quick BTT, any news yet?
I just got an email from Mike...my 2 blades are ready to ship, so I would imagine the lot is close for the UK too.
I have one piece of wood cut, roughed and slowly drying for a handle. Hopefully after the holidays I will get to it.
Hi All,
Apologies for delay in updating...have been stuck in Edinburgh...on a nightmare contract.
Mike is shipping the blades this week. I wanted the blades in before Xmas :sulkoff: but delayed steel deliveries and a lot of orders has slowed Mike down...he send his apologies but promises the blades will be worth the wait.
I know some of you guys wanted the blades as Xmas pressies but I can only sit tight and wait... :banghead: :o
Soon as they arrive I will start shipping....thanks for the patience.
Hope you have a good (if crooked knife free) xmas.
Sean.
pierre girard
04-01-2006, 00:52
Have sourced some cheap crooked knife blades, rough forged, ready for handles. Optional satin and mirror finishes available.
$10.00 per blade, $3 shipping (depending on 10+ orders) Works out at about £7.60 per blade (basic) :D
Anyone interested? :)
I am always up for another crooked knife. Do they have a bent tang? I'll go with the mirror finish. They are not easy to sharpen.
PG
Millbilly
04-01-2006, 02:42
No need to panic chaps :(
Have heard from Mike...delivery date will be on or around Dec 5th.
Sorry for late update..Pc is playing up something :censored: :censored: rotten.
As soon as they land on my doorstep, I will be sending out the next day to avoid the Xmas crush :)
Hiya,
Should we have recieved these yet?
If not, do you have anyideas as to an approximate delivery date? :confused:
Im starting to get a bit concerned as to when these will arrive, any ideas?
Motorbike Man
05-01-2006, 09:40
I must admit to being a bit concerned as well, especially as delivery was first supposed to be the beginning if December, and then the end of December.
beachlover
05-01-2006, 21:28
I am glad I am not alone in feeling a bit concerned. It's not the money, as it was small beer, but the principle.
Some news would be good. :rolleyes:
I would not be too worried guys. I just got an email from Mike...my package was returned to him and he has just sent it off again. I mentioned that you would like an update so hopefully he will contact Ronin.
Motorbike Man
06-01-2006, 01:45
Cheers Schwert :)
My blades arrived. Three with slightly different but strong curves. I will get some photos this weekend and post next week.
Cleanup does not look like it will be too bad. Bottom is pretty flat and the edge is ground nicely. Forging scale should come off the bottom and edge pretty easily and tuning to an edge....well we will see.
This is going to be a fun project....and if it all goes pear shape on me...well I learned something....hopefully.
Hi guys,
1,000 apologies for the late update. I have just got back into the UK. Mike has emailed me (first time in a month) and said he was tempering all the blades over last and into this week then shipping as one batch.
I am not happy with the delays at all but I cant do much about it other than apoogise for them. I am doing my best to keep this rolling but work commitments are getting in the way.
Glad to hear the blades came through for you Schwert.
Thanks
Sean.
beachlover
09-01-2006, 22:29
Thanks for the update. :)
Hi guys,
1,000 apologies for the late update. I have just got back into the UK. Mike has emailed me (first time in a month) and said he was tempering all the blades over last and into this week then shipping as one batch.
I am not happy with the delays at all but I cant do much about it other than apoogise for them. I am doing my best to keep this rolling but work commitments are getting in the way.
Glad to hear the blades came through for you Schwert.
Thanks
Sean.
I was too lazy last weekend to shoot photos or even start work on my blades.
It seems Mike was a bit delayed on these, but once they arrive I predict there will be many busy hands cleaning these up and fitting handles.
Motorbike Man
18-01-2006, 18:29
Any news :bluThinki
Still nothing yet.
Ronin, just as a suggestion, but if work is getting in the way of keeping this running, it seems to me to be on the verge of collapse, why not pass on the details to someone who can post regular updates and help to keep everyone informed?
still no news :banghead: :banghead:
Any News - Anyone? :sadwavey: :headbang: :aargh4: :dunno: :dunno: :dunno:
No one ever died for want of a crooked knife, at least not here in Yorkshire. Anyhow, if I needed it urgently I would've got one off the shelf, not custom made for my grubby little paws. I can wait until their ready, Ronin.
beachlover
22-01-2006, 17:14
Any News - Anyone? :sadwavey: :headbang: :aargh4: :dunno: :dunno: :dunno:
Given up caring :o
Right, I am back in the UK full time now. I have emailed Mike (twice) and have had no response so far. I know he is tempering the blades but I am getting fairly p*ssed off at the delay.
The project I originally wanted the blades for has come and gone :aargh4: :cussing: :AR15firin so this is now purely going to be making sure everyone gets their blades.
I can only apologise but until Mike gets back to me I am up a proverbial bloody gum tree. :sad6:
Not happy.
Sean.
Right, I am back in the UK full time now. I have emailed Mike (twice) and have had no response so far. I know he is tempering the blades but I am getting fairly p*ssed off at the delay....
<shrug>
S**t happens. Don't have a cow, man ;)
Seriously, this kind of informal(ish) thing often goes this way. Look at the folk pleading for their Bearclaw knife ETA. I hope it doesn't screw things up for you too badly.
I'm trusting they'll be worth the wait.
Jim.
I'm cool!
Have got to the stage that i'm not concerned now so when it does arrive it will be a nice supprise! :D
Hold on in there mate! :grouphug:
Hi Guys,
Just had an update in from Mike, he has taken on extra staff and will be shipping the blades on Monday.... :approve: :approve: :approve: :)
Thanks for your patience.... :o
Sean.
I finally got my blades photographed this weekend....no work of them of course, but at least shot...
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5005/crooked47216zo.jpg
All three have a strong curve. I was hoping for a bit of variation in the curves but this is what I got. They seem relatively flat on the back but will require some work to smooth out that side. The bevel comes right down nicely so I should not need too much work to make them sharp once I clean off the back.
Now I just need time...
clcuckow
01-02-2006, 20:18
I finally got my blades photographed this weekend....no work of them of course, but at least shot...
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5005/crooked47216zo.jpg
All three have a strong curve. I was hoping for a bit of variation in the curves but this is what I got. They seem relatively flat on the back but will require some work to smooth out that side. The bevel comes right down nicely so I should not need too much work to make them sharp once I clean off the back.
Now I just need time...
Hi Schwert,
Can you tell me the dimension's e.g. blade width and thickness and are they a chisel grind? I can see what you mean about the curvation, it might be a bit hard to use as a draw knife.
Christopher
These blades are all about 18 cm overall.
13.4cm for the blade, 4.6 for the tang.
They are 1.8cm wide, and 3mm thick.
The straight portion is about 5 cm on each blade.
They are chisel ground....flat (more or less) on the bottom side and with a fairly steep bevel.
They will need to be sanded down flat on the bottom, and the edge bevel cleaned up. The bevel is nicely to the bottom side so not a lot of work will be required to even up the edge. Flattening and cleaning the bottom with sandpaper on a glass sheet should do wonders. The edge will have to be done with a dowel and sandpaper. I intend to keep the forging scale on the top surface.
The tang width I did not measure but it is probably about 1.2 cm or so. They have 2 holes...which did not show up too well on the photo...I am guessing for about 3mm pins.
Also I used a fabric ruler...so plus or minus a mm or so.
clcuckow
03-02-2006, 16:47
Thanks Schwert.
I would have thought 3mm was a bit thick. My frost crook (spoon) knifes are only about 2mm.
Motorbike Man
10-02-2006, 20:45
Hi Ronin, I realise that this has dragged on beyond your control, but I was wondering id there was any confirmation wether or not these have actually left the State's yet?
Has anyone received their blade :confused: :dunno: :dunno: :confused:
Motorbike Man
14-02-2006, 21:06
I'd just be happy to know that they've left the States. I hope I'm wrong, but I have to say I'm not holding my breath for these.
beachlover
14-02-2006, 21:23
I'd just be happy to know that they've left the States. I hope I'm wrong, but I have to say I'm not holding my breath for these.
Jon, I have always seen you as a real optimist, but I see pessimism creeping in :rolleyes:
Motorbike Man
14-02-2006, 21:36
Jon, I have always seen you as a real optimist, but I see pessimism creeping in :rolleyes:
Generally I am, but this is dragging on aftyer being told 3 or 4 times now that they were shipping.
Just want to make it clear as well that I know Ronin is only passing on what he's been told and the delays aren't his fault.
beachlover
14-02-2006, 21:52
Generally I am, but this is dragging on aftyer being told 3 or 4 times now that they were shipping.
Just want to make it clear as well that I know Ronin is only passing on what he's been told and the delays aren't his fault.
I understand that. I think that he is as much a victim to this delayed event as the rest of us.
I have to say that as far as I am concerned, if I ever eventually get stuff and it comes with bad feeling, or unpleasantness then I never keep the item as I think it is jinxed.
No bad feeling, I thinkk we all understand that ronin is trying his best, just wondered if anyone had received their's
Ian
clcuckow
15-02-2006, 02:11
Anybody thought of posting issues over on BB? I know it might not help with getting what is owed but I am sure some of the metal bashers over there would step up to the mark to get out someting?
I would offer myself but I am crap :D
Motorbike Man
20-02-2006, 12:28
And still dragging on with no news
Millbilly
24-02-2006, 04:11
Any ideas as to if this is actually gonna happen? :banghead:
Hi All,
Have been pursuing Mike for a reply as he stated he was shipping the blades. If I dont get a reply back by the start of next week, I will probably be cancelling the order and sending out the refunds. I have to be fair to Mike as he did say he was having email problems so he may be trying to reply or has replied and it hasnt made it to me.
It just seems a shame after such a wait and aggro to have to cancel but unless I can get shipping confirmation from Mike then and dont know what else to do sorry.
Sean.
beachlover
24-02-2006, 20:34
Seems to me that you are in an invidious position, having organised this but at the mercy of someone else, who for whatever reason seems to have let you down. I am sure everyone here appreciates what you tried to get for us.
Hi All,
Have been pursuing Mike for a reply as he stated he was shipping the blades. If I dont get a reply back by the start of next week, I will probably be cancelling the order and sending out the refunds. I have to be fair to Mike as he did say he was having email problems so he may be trying to reply or has replied and it hasnt made it to me.
It just seems a shame after such a wait and aggro to have to cancel but unless I can get shipping confirmation from Mike then and dont know what else to do sorry.
Sean.
Seems to me that you are in an invidious position, having organised this but at the mercy of someone else, who for whatever reason seems to have let you down. I am sure everyone here appreciates what you tried to get for us.
I agree, beachlover. Sometimes these things happen. You can't only buy from people that you experience or recomendations of. When you buy custom anything from a small maker it just takes one person getting the flu or too many orders to mess the schedule up.
Hi All,
I have had no response from Mike for my last two emails and have emailed again today. I sincerely hope all is well with him and nothing dramatic has occurred but if I dont have a response by the start of the week, I will have to cancel the order.
I have had emails from a couple of stateside members who ordered direct and they are having problems getting info too(and they have no blades either) so it doesnt look good, sorry. :( :banghead: :o
I will automatically refund any Paypal payments and take the fees on the chin and all members who paid by cheque will have a refund by the same if that is ok. Anyone who wants to do things differently, just drop me a line.
Many Thanks
Sean.
Has this one been written off for sure then?
Ronin - No hard feelings mate. But if it has gone belly up please can you let me know about refunds.
Thanks.
Bumblebee
20-03-2006, 10:17
Heeellllooooooo? Any news?
Yep...looks like this one is dead in the water.
I have had no response from Mike in two months and whilst I sincerely hope nothing untoward has happened to him, I can only assume that he has bailed. :dunno:
1,000 apologies to all who have been waiting, I am gutted. But hey, as Jim said to me, just another life lesson I guess. :sadwavey:
All who paid by Paypal will be getting refunds from me this week (apart from those who have PMed requesting other methods). I will be sending out the cheques to all who paid by cheque next week.
Thanks to eveyone for their support on this one, sorry it didnt come off. :o :You_Rock_
Sean.
I'm sorry it hasn't worked out mate!
thanks for all your efforts though! :You_Rock_
MagiKelly
20-03-2006, 22:11
Just trying to clarify something. Ronin, did you pay the supplier? If so are you having to refund the money from your own pocket? If so it seems a bit harsh that you are having to foot the bill for all the knifes and everyone else does not. I would like to think that the pain could be shared out a bit.
Given the time that has passed the PayPal fees will not be refunded so that is another cost to you. If you are going to be out of pocket I for one will contribute a little something to stop you getting hit for too much cost. A lot of us have benefited from group buys so it is only fair for us to share the cost when one goes wrong.
Bumblebee
21-03-2006, 11:00
Yeah, I'm with MagiKelly on this. Make sure you're not out of pocket!
Yeah, I'm with MagiKelly on this. Make sure you're not out of pocket!
Same here.
Ian
A shame but these things happen.
10 out 10 Ronin for trying.
Moduser
Here Here! - As far as i'm concerned you can ignore me and keep 'my' cash!..... if you have already sent cash and the blades do eventualy turn up perhaps i'll have a nice little supprise one day!! otherwise I have written it off so I can 'help' you to cover your pp costs as a little thanks for your efforts!
Yeah, I'm with MagiKelly on this. Make sure you're not out of pocket!
Ogri the trog
21-03-2006, 16:27
Here Here! - As far as i'm concerned you can ignore me and keep 'my' cash!..... if you have already sent cash and the blades do eventualy turn up perhaps i'll have a nice little supprise one day!! otherwise I have written it off so I can 'help' you to cover your pp costs as a little thanks for your efforts!
Same here Buddy,
And a big thumbs up for trying - it can't be easy
ATB
Ogri the trog
beachlover
21-03-2006, 17:13
Here Here! - As far as i'm concerned you can ignore me and keep 'my' cash!..... if you have already sent cash and the blades do eventualy turn up perhaps i'll have a nice little supprise one day!! otherwise I have written it off so I can 'help' you to cover your pp costs as a little thanks for your efforts!
I agree. I don't want a refund. It was so long ago I have said goodbye to it too. As was said elsewhere, we have all done well out of group buys and other deals in the past and if we are to be a real community, we should support one another when something or someone fails to deliver.
Good on you for trying mate! :You_Rock_
demographic
21-03-2006, 18:36
Don't bother sending the money back, it was only a few quid and it's not your fault that the deal went tits up so theres no reason it should cost you anything.
Regards Scott.
Just trying to clarify something. Ronin, did you pay the supplier? If so are you having to refund the money from your own pocket? If so it seems a bit harsh that you are having to foot the bill for all the knifes and everyone else does not. I would like to think that the pain could be shared out a bit.
Whilst I agree about sharing the burden I'd just like to know the answer before making such a gesture. I actually suspect he hasn't paid yet.
beachlover
21-03-2006, 18:48
Whilst I agree about sharing the burden I'd just like to know the answer before making such a gesture. I actually suspect he hasn't paid yet.
Well that could be easily proven by a Paypal receipt published here wouldn't it?
Thanks for the support guys :grouphug: :You_Rock_ (Big hand Mr. Kelly)
But as Scruff so eloquently pointed out, I hadnt sent any payment across. Mike was insistent that he deliver the blades before payment :confused:
So everyone will get a full refund and I will absorb the PayPal fees where applicable. I will send out the cheques next week to all who paid by cheque.
I have started the PayPal refunds already and whilst I am genuinely touched by everyones support, I would be happier knowing eveyone has had their refunds. :)
Big hand to Schwert and Jim FBtE for their updates and feedback on this one. Spare a thought for Jim who did pay for his blades but has yet to see them. :dunno:
Hey, sometimes you're the bat, sometimes you're the ball.
Thanks again
Sean.
For some inexplicable reason it seems I am the only recipient of any of the blades. I am glad that Sean did not prepay and sorry that Jim did.
I have had no contact with the maker since my blades arrived even though I have tried several times. I am in the process of getting one of them handled and hoped to see plenty of others do so too.
I do thank Sean for giving this a go, and wish it would have turned out better for all.
Here is where I stand with one of my blanks. I actually think this will make a nice crooked knife….sorry to show what could have been.
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/3749/crookedcrop50110jq.jpg
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/3807/crookedplus50046ka.jpg
MagiKelly
22-03-2006, 00:40
Glad to hear that there will be no great loss. I know from experience that there is always the worry when running a group buy that you are going to get hit for a loss if it goes pear shaped. In this case it has at least not been too bad a hit.
Phew!
I thought that would be the case. Seemed with Mike being under pressure to get them done and was unsure about being able to deliver he wouldn't ask for payment until he had em done.
Thanks again Sean - I can appreciate it must have been a bit of a stress.
:grouphug: :thanks:
Millbilly
27-04-2006, 11:02
:confused:
Millbilly,
Best send Ronin a pm but this group buy is dead.
Which is a mighty shame as I was really looking forward to getting these.
Moduser
Hmmm....did anyone get a refund yet?
Motorbike Man
27-04-2006, 12:36
I've had mine.
Bumblebee
27-04-2006, 12:55
I've had mine.
And so have I.
doo doo! i better PM Ronin.
thanks guys.
all sorted.
cheers sean :)