Devon Weekend....

[Ivan...]

Hi All, I am going to have a meet the w/e Friday 9th - Sunday 11th December , its going to be either at Silverwoods or The Great Plantation, as my site is taken by our local farmer for grazing , also if we get inclement weather , he needs the emergency evacuation option for his stock .

The good news is that the site has been secured for 2012 !!

So anyone wanting to attend please , show an interest on here , any questions etc feel free to ask , no cost just an informal gathering as usual .

Atb Ivan....

[skate]

Have had a chance to explore the Great Plantation now but where is Silverwoods? Is it at Ilsington?

[Ivan...]

Hi Skate yes it is , its an old silver mine an old stomping ground of mine when i was a lad , another slight possibility is Rora Woods , when we have a few confirmed we can decide.

[dave53]

hi ivan sounds good to me matey how you feeling better i hope
1.dave 53

[Paul Webster]

I can't make that weekend at all, works Christmas do on the Saturday night. Any chance you may stay on beyond Sunday? Maybe till Tuesday/Wednesday?

[savagebushcraft]

I should be able to attend mate. Need to check a few things first, but I'll let you know.

[Ivan...]

Hi All, I have just got back from a reccy at the possible sites for the upcoming meet , and The Great Plantation is ideal , safe parking , about a quarter of a mile walk to the site, level well sheltered area , plenty of trees to hang and room to ground dwell, loads of firewood, small stream running through .

So.i don't think there will be many of us, coz of Christmas etc. Speaking of which a few have expressed an interest in a Boxing Day meet for a few days so those into that let me know .

Paul W. I am quite happy to stay on till the Wed if that helps pal , not sure who else will be able to, maybe state on here , thanks .

A bit nearer the time i will send you all directions etc.

Cheers Ivan...

[Paul Webster]

It looks like if I can shake off the hangover on Sunday I should be down in the afternoon and can hopefully stay for a few days. Time to get the cold weather gear out!

[The Big Lebowski]

Sounds good to me... :)

Well done on securing the site for next year; its a nice bit of land.

atb, al.

[savagebushcraft]

You gunna be there then Al? Could be a chance to hand over your flask lol.

[jonajuna]

added me provisionally, as discussed with Ivan :)

1.dave 53
2. Adam (pencilled)
3. Al
4. Jonajuna (pencilled)

[savagebushcraft]

We're all disgusted with Ivan at times :p


Oh...as discussed....

[Ivan...]

Right you lot , here it is ! after much wandering etc. I have found us a lovely spot, for those of you interested , closest grid ref i can acheive is .

SX 813 - 756 , closest postcode is TQ12 6HL , and for the more technical Lat 50.56805 Long -3.677458 .

Its half way along Belle View Straights, you can find one pic on the interweb , decent parking , level ground , great hang and ground facilities, loads of firewood/kindling ,a clean little stream , local shops about a mile away , and even a pub about 3/4 of a mile away !!

Only drawback i can see , after spending a couple of hours there yesterday , ( Sunday ) was a couple of more adventurous dog walkers , but if we go deeper ,no chance of being disturbed. 114 acres to choose from.

Looking forward to it already Ivan...

[Ichneumon]

We're all disgusted with Ivan at times :p


Oh...as discussed....

Made I laff!! :rofl:

[The Big Lebowski]

You gunna be there then Al? Could be a chance to hand over your flask lol.

Yup, jobs a good-un :)

Be good to catch up!

[Ivan...]

Well at least we should be fully entertained at the upcoming meet , thanks to the new double act, Savage and Newman !!
Look out for them on Britains Got Talent .

You should not encourage him Paul .

Disclaimer... I have never knowingly disgusted Jon...

Oh! apart from when i drank his tequila.

[Ichneumon]

What did you expect? We have both got to keep our famous celebrity status under raps. We're careful that we don't look like our public personas. He doesn't look like he does in Myth Busters and I don't look like Cool Hand Luke!

But talent will always rise to the surface!

:dancer:

[Paul Webster]

As I can't make the weekend but can possibly get Monday-Wednesday off, anyone else able to do that?

[savagebushcraft]

What can I say? Some people are just born with talent, then you have folk like me :D

I'll try my best to stop on a few days Paul W.

[dave53]

sounds good to me ivan ask said before l will be there:christmas2:

[TeaBee]

I hope I can join you, sounds a great location, but just the Friday night though. I can't do Sunday nor Monday. If it's where I think it is then it'll only be a 20 minute/half hour walk from the bus - no bikes required:).

[Ivan...]

Oi Oi ! quietly gathering momentum, poor Trev he is going to be knackered after crafting all the seating for us , camp chef in attendance ! knife maker ,hammock assemblers, fire wood gatherers, camp masseuse, knife sharpener , fire by friction expert, shelter builder, kit experts, dancing girls and story teller , wow ! what a weekend we are in for !!

[savagebushcraft]

Hang on....dancing girls? :p

[Paul Webster]

Well, looks like I'm out of this guys. Christmas party on the Saturday night and now I'm working away as from Monday. Will have to catch up with you guys in the new year

[dave53]

hi all i started a list lets try again
1.dave53

[savagebushcraft]

1.dave53
2.savagebushcraft (Adam) ((me)) ;)

[The Big Lebowski]

1.dave53
2.savagebushcraft (Adam) ((me)) ;)
3.Dances with chillies... aka, TBL :p

[Imagedude]

What time is kick off on Friday?

[Ivan...]

Good Morning everyone,
Imagedude, a few of us will be in the wood from 1.00 pm , will be great to have you along , i can pm you phone numbers and any other info you require .

Adam could you please put my name on the list , along with Lucy's as she is sure she can come , cheers .

AAAWWHH !! Paul Webster, that is a real shame buddy , dirty old work getting in the way of various woodland activities. Anyway have a great works do , speak soon mate .

[Ivan...]

Forgot to add, any one in the area over the weekend , that can't stay over it would be great if you want to drop in for a brew and a natter, that goes for old faces and new .

Its a nice spot , even for a woodland wander, we might even feed you if you turn up hungry !!

[savagebushcraft]

1.dave53
2.savagebushcraft (Adam) ((me)) ;)
3.Dances with chillies... aka, TBL :p
4.LRforestschool (Lucy)
5.Ivan... (....Ivan) :D

[Bushwhacker]

I cannot make any of these dates :(

[Deaner666]

I might try popping along on one of the days as part of a day walk with the missus and the new baby! Would love to spend a night or two out but think it might still be early days for that...

[Ivan...]

Hi Dean, you would be more than welcome to pop by, and bring the youngest Bushcrafter we have ever on site ! Its a lovely spot for a walk too, there wont be as many of us as normal , but we are all a very friendly bunch , so if it suits " come on down "

If you need telephone no. or any other info let me know .

Atb Ivan...

[savagebushcraft]

1.dave53
2.savagebushcraft (Adam) ((me)) ;)
3.Dances with chillies... aka, TBL :p
4.LRforestschool (Lucy)
5.Ivan... (....Ivan) :D
6.TeaBee (Trevor) ((I think. If that's wrong, sorry mate))

[TeaBee]

Yes, I'll be there for the Friday at least.

[skate]

Hoping to call by while you are all there and chill for a bit.
Will bring your snakewood Adam so can you remember the sheath.
Had an overnighter last weekend in a local wood in those strong winds! Actually heard a tree fall down in the forest :)
See you all soon.

[dave53]

is fox and badger coming ivan?regards dave

[Savagewolfrm]

erm hello guys, i was sort of hoping i might be able to pop along and enjoy the banter and comaradarie of some wonderful people, oh well enough of the bulls dangly bits. looking forward to seeing you all again, some super hot chillies from TBL some dodgy jokes from the main man himself and some mild drinking lol, sorry Adam all the absinthe has now gone but Mr Jack will be along.
does anyone need me to bring anything to help, will be down saturday early and staying till sunday if all ok and will be trying the hanging method so hopefully TBL and Dave53 will have some advice so I can get this right.
looking forward to seeing you all next weekend

Rick

[Mongoose13]

1.dave53
2.savagebushcraft (Adam) ((me))
3.Dances with chillies... aka, TBL
4.LRforestschool (Lucy)
5.Ivan... (....Ivan)
6.TeaBee (Trevor) ((I think. If that's wrong, sorry mate))
7.Katie

Dont forget me!!I will be there after school on Friday :)

[LRforestschool]

Hi guys,

Sorry to have gone to ground for a while, really bad chest infection and huge pressure at work/college that put me on my back for a while (and not in a good way) but pretty much on top of things again. Thanks again to everyone for contributing knowledge, demos and advice that led to some super coursework that really blew them away at college. You are a super bunch of people.

Can I just confirm starting and ending days/times for the weekend (lost the thread a bit, so to speak, while offline) and also what would you like me to bring food/booze wise? Haven't seen any mistletoe yet but am looking hard!!!! Missing all of you like crazy and really looking forward to seeing those who can make it. Lots of love to those who can't.

Lucy x

[Ivan...]

Hello Peeps !
Just got back from a rather wet but interesting weekends camping with Adam and Lee, Friday night Adam and I in the wood where the meet is to be held , just to try it out really , The police turned up in the carpark at 2am thinking it was a suicide mission !! as Adams car is registered to somewhere hours away ! still all sorted out .

Sat. on Dartmoor , wont say anymore than the weather for the meet had better be nicer than that !!

Anyway, glad to know you will be getting out again Rick see you Sat .
Lucy i will ring you re directions . Also i think Adam and myself can stay until the Monday.
Dave53, just spoke to Badger, and him and Foxy can make the Friday night , but work commitments mean they have to depart Sat .

Ivan...

[Ivan...]

Hi , just to clarify a few things . As this is a new site to all of us . Adam and myself gave it a trial run on Friday night , and apart from a bit of distant traffic noise until about 9.00pm and a dog walker 8.00am Saturday , very peaceful and comfortable.

A couple have asked about bringing stuff etc . Seeing as this is a small meet by our standards , and there is a tesco a mile away , we can all chip in for ingredients if a group meal is wanted.

I will bring camp kettle , frying pans , dutch oven, group cooking pots etc .

Anyone not quite sure of location , or is planning to arrive at a wierd time , and needs my tel. no. just shout . ( reception on all networks is good )

Crikey i read my own text sometimes and i don't even get it !!

Ivan...

[dave53]

hi ivan al and i can't get there friday al has work commitments .it looks like there will be seven of us at the meet by the looks of it I'm happy to bring the turkey butt and if someone brings some veg i.e. broccoli carrots swede tatties and some gravy we can all have a sunday lunch on saturday and mane some scones jam and clotted cream for afters nom nom nom anyway you need to give me directions i.e. postcode longitude latitude road etc etc get back to me on it regards dave:christmas2::hammock::than kyou:

[Savagewolfrm]

Looking forward to seeing all again. Glad it was just a suicide watch from old bill and not asking about what 3 men where doing alone in the dark on the moors lol.
I will be arriving Saturday around 12:30 ish hopefully and sort of guess where going buts it's all and adventure so Gsme on
Love and hugs to all

[Ivan...]

Hi Dave, repeat of directions , Grid Ref SX813-756 , nearest postcode TQ126HL , LAT 50.56805 LONG -3.677458 . Its a long straight single carriageway called Belle View Sraights , about half way along there is a house , right by this is a car park , you are there !! Take the footpath from the car park into the wood on your right . duck under a fallen tree , continue on, keep an eye and ear to your left and hopefully you should see/hear/smell us !!

I will sort veg, extras etc , blimey its going to be a bit festive !!

Ivan...

[Ivan...]

Also , 10 people confirmed, 3 undecided and of course a few day visitors, so that turkey butt is going to be well and truly roasted, how do you spell truly , by the way ? does not look right .

Any way , its going to be fun , hope its freezing by then as i for one are fed up with mild damp weather !!

[Ichneumon]

Never been into butt myself but for some it's their favourite part of the bird! :D

[Ivan...]

In all fairness , i had to pm Dave53 and ask exactly what a turkey butt was, and it turns out it is both breasts actually !! so nothing to do with the area that you would think!! anyway Mr Newman it will be very tasty , and its a crying shame you can't attend , especially as its your original camping/bushcrafting/stomping ground from 50 ! years ago ! jealous ? not you sir !

[Ichneumon]

I'm not going to tell you whether I'm jealous of you camping in my old stomping ground or you getting a bit of breast, but you can take it from me that I am jealous! :puppy_dog

[Ivan...]

Mr Newman , as according to official data we both joined this site , in July of this year and i have considerably more posts than you ! So i think i will take over as the Great Plantation, guide and expert, and i do not want you to bring up anything about , you telling me about the site in the first place or that you have educated me in flora and fauna , the Templar way etc . As you can't be bothered to make the million mile journey to see your old pals to a place that is special in your heart , you therefore relinquish all right of entry to said wood , gorging of butt and breast on site ! and i will be phoning the Star Inn at the earliest oppurtunity to get you banned sir , as you are a cad and a bounder,consider my gauntlet thrown !

On a lighter note if you are prepared to apologise , i may see you over the festive period ,failing that the new year .

yours respectfully Ivan...

[Ichneumon]

Gadzooks! That's a bit strong old boy! Take away a man's home, his bird, and his boozer, then strand him in foreign (snowy) territories would you - what, what, what? I contend that it is you who is the cad and bounder sir - you!

We will have to settle this like gentlemen - pistols at dawn! I will aim for your big *** butt these pistols are not too accurate.

Yours, larffing like a drain.

Paul
P.S. Hope to get down before long.

[savagebushcraft]

I'll bring the hankie, for which to initiate said proceedings. a bottle of hock for the winner, and a wooden box for the looser.

[Ivan...]

Morning ! Time to get back on thread me thinks , Adam ,i have spoken to Badger , he was going to swerve the meet as his Landie is very poorly at the mo, so i kindly offered your collection services , as transport was the only issue , therefore would you mind awfully volunteering to pick Badger and Foxy up , and deliver them safely to the woods ?

Badge said he will catch a train to Newton Abbot station , as that would make it much easier , awiting your reply , thankyou .

Your best attention at all times Ivan... ( Head of The Great Plantation )

Ps don't mention any of this to that Newman character OK !

[savagebushcraft]

No problem mate. Can pick them up from the station. Was it Saturday?

[Ivan...]

Hi Adam, no mate it would be the Friday , as they can only stay Friday night , work commitments on the Saturday night for both. Will ring or text you when i know the train times , to see if it fits , if not i am sure we can figure out a way .

The forecast is for it turning much colder BRRR!! , Thats music to my ears , so all we have to do is ensure the rain stays away .

I plan to be in the woods from 12.30pm Friday onwards, so anybody who needs my mobile number, just say so , then hopefully due to the wonders of modern technology we won't have lots of mini meets going on , and we will be alltogether!!

Ivan...

[TeaBee]

Have a good meet, one and all, but I'm afraid I'll have to drop out of this one. Just too many family, Christmassy events are coming together this weekend. See you next time around, Trev

[Ivan...]

Hi Guys and Gals, getting closer now ! one eye on our forecast looks decent , but be advised much colder , a couple have had to cancel or due to commitments can't make this one , so Jon , Trev , Darren , Paul W, Paul N , Bushwhacker, we will raise a glass to you .

Don't worry we will all be together early in the new year, as once the Christmas thing is over i will announce Dartmoor 5 , haven't thought of a witty title yet !

There have been questions about , mistletoe, yule logs , berried /variegated holly etc , so anybody who wants to take some home let me know , then we can go on a forage , but you may have to be blindfolded as some of the locations are top secret !

Can lightening strike twice ? what are the chances of two gorgeous french damsels in distress , wandering into camp lost cold and wet ? Well one can hope !

Also , as a foot note a big hello to Freddyfish and Nova and Pinky as they have been quiet lately .

[Ichneumon]

Cold! Whadya mean cold? Bunch of southern Jessies! Oop north we have to crack the ice on the surface of our bath water before we can get in. Our knees won't bend cos our trousers are permanently frozen to our legs and when I breath out I make my own snow cloud! :)

I'll be with you all in spirit if not in body. Have a good one!!

ATB

Paul

[Badger90]

Foxy n myself are looking forward to it :D

As said by Ivan, the Landy is awaiting an engine swap, i was planning to do this over the weekend but it can wait till monday now & we can only stay Friday night as i'm working Saturday night and Foxy is at work Sunday morning.

Do we have your number Adam? Much appreciated for the lift, we'll get to Newton Abbott train station to make it easier for you :D ( pm your mobile number to me mate )

[Badger90]

Oki scrap that, i've now got to work Friday and the engine crane is arriving for the engine swap, which'll have to be done over the weekend, so that puts us both out for this one :(

Hope you have fun, the weather looks good for Friday n Saturday, we'll miss you!

[skate]

Will be stopping by Saturday morn. So listen out for me stumbling about in the woods.

[savagebushcraft]

I'll have your sheath there mate.

[The Big Lebowski]

Booze in boot of car... Petersons packed.

Looking forwards to getting down; if only for the one night! They say never go shopping when you are hungry. I'd highly advise not going if you really fancy a drink!

Think I'm covered for a tipple, or three :)

[savagebushcraft]

Sounds good, I can't wait to drink...I mean, get in the woods :rolleyes:

[The Big Lebowski]

Its winter... Campfire and port/rum/alcohol is good with me!

Be good to catch up bud. I have a few blends for your new pipe.

Num, num.

[Ivan...]

Morning Guys
Thought i had better get up early ! to pack and re pack for the mammoth trip ahead !

What do you mean a two nighter , half a mile trek from civilisation ? how very dare you ! Anyway i will be dragging myself away from this evil computer from about 11.00 am, so anyone not sure of directions , please ask on here before that time , i think most of you have my mob no. Or each others .

Its just the wood is a bit dense , if you take the wrong path, so you may need to ring upon arrival at the car park, save wandering lonely as a cloud , with all your kit , i can come and collect you .

Really looking forward to catching up with you guys , heres hoping for a great safe weekend .

See you in the woods , Ivan...

[LRforestschool]

Another one up early this morning. Hi Ivan. Looking forward to it see you all Saturday morning yipee!

[Ichneumon]

Who, me??? :angel:

[Ivan...]

At this stage of the ongoing inquirys, it would not be prudent to speculate , but if you and Mr Savage could hand your passports in to your nearest police station , it would be in your best interests.

Also i strongly advise you seek legal representation , oh yeah and pack an overnight bag .

Ivan...

[Ivan...]

Sorry , thread has been moved to Other Chatter , heading under the Beatle ! so feel free to defend yourselves on there !!

[LRforestschool]

There will no doubt be new threads and much discussion about the impromptu demonstration of hypothermia symptoms and the team spirit that turned a potential disaster into a happy ending - but I wanted to get in first and say thanks guys - for recognising the problem and getting me to the right place at the right time. We always said that this was a group that looked out for each other and last night proved that totally.

I deserve every joke that will now be told at my expense - happy that I am actually able to laugh about it now, but also aware that I have learnt a valuable lesson the hard way, which won't be forgotten.

Proud of you guys for your responsible and appropriate actions, and very grateful.

Lucy

[jonajuna]

wasnt that cold was it surely? :eek:

[savagebushcraft]

wasnt that cold was it surely? :eek:

The paramedics seemed to think it was lol.

[Ivan...]

Hi All , firsty on a serious note we have all learnt some lessons this weekend, that with all the good fun that comes with our meets , it was unfortunate that one of our group became unwell due to hypothermia, the fact that TBL is a trained first aider and also recognised the signs, was paramount to getting the right help and treatment swiftly .

To be honest , if it were down to the rest of us we would have been half an hour later in making a decision , but as it was Al took charge called the emergency services and a potential disaster was averted .

Apart from the obvious concern for one of our group, the other point to raise is that every member of a meet should have access to grid references, postcodes etc, because we tend to be a little tucked away in pursuit of our pleasure .

I wont dwell on this matter , as it was a sobering couple of hours with thankfully a great out come , suffice to say our dear friend made a full recovery and is back home safe and well.

Right thats enough of that !! if one of your pals at a meet looks cold , feels cold and starts talking more rubbish than usual ! becomes unresponsive and you can't make them warmer by all the normal means , get the ambulance out , they are fantastic , and due to the right information they were in a remote location within 15 minutes .

Fortunately there was a crate of beer in the boot of the car , while we waited the hour and a half for the attention seeking so and so to be dealt with .

Only joking , glad you are feeling better, know it has not put you off .

See you soon love, All of us xx

[LRforestschool]

Not as cold as the night before but lots of other contributing factors.

[Ichneumon]

The Great Plantation remains my speciality subject. I didn't send in the Feds to protect me secrets - honest! :dunno:

Great weekend fella's and lady. I'm pretty sure Tony (aka 'Arry) enjoyed himself enough to want to come again.

It was a worthwhile lesson for all of us Lucy, just pleased it ended happily.

ATB

Paul

[Ivan...]

Right ! back to the usual nonsense , we had a brillant weekend , and apart from the fire brigade we would have had our treble up !!

Fri. Adam and myself got to the original site ( with permission ) set up lit a fire cooked some grub and were settling down to another great night out under the stars , looking forward to the next morn and arrival of our fellow camp mates .

Then just as we were tucking in to our sausage and bacon rolls , the plod turned up !! treated us as if we were terrorists, asked us if we were armed searched us questioned us etc , as they had a call saying 2 army looking blokes were in the woods acting suspiciously , bloody nosey joe public
after much radio work and a call to the owner of the wood ( not naming them or the warden etc ) it was decided that we should be evicted forthwith.

Oh pooh !! an hour and a half before dark , loads of fellow bushcrafters on their way , what do we do ? thanks to that wonderful thing the mobile telephone , disaster was averted , and we quickly re located to our usual site .

My pet hate setting up in the dark...

TBC

[LRforestschool]

[QUOTE=Ivan...;1006518]

Fortunately there was a crate of beer in the boot of the car , while we waited the hour and a half for the attention seeking so and so to be dealt with .

Only joking , glad you are feeling better, know it has not put you off .


Thanks, feeling better except for every muscle in my body hurting like hell in response to sharply contracting muscles while shivering that gave me a hell of a workout! Not recommended.

As attention seeking goes - a team of blokes looking after me, then two more in uniform, flashing lights and our resident 'photo-journalist' flashing away on his camera, sounds like about as much attention as a woman could ever hope for - such a shame that I remember virtually none of it - talk about bad luck!! Like you, I was really impressed by the paramedics who were so cheerful, calm and supportive (as were you guys).

Certainly not put off, but a great deal wiser. Got to say a special thanks to Al, to whom I owe a debt that is a tough one to ever repay adequately.

[Ivan...]

Part 2

I forgot to mention that two members that had stated that they could not possibly attend the meet , turned up at the first intended location !
and only after a text saying that they were bearing gifts ! That i told them where we had gone .

I must say Tony (Arry as he is known and calls everyone else , women included, coz its easier ) was a welcome new member of the Dartmoor gang ,
he slid in perfectly as if he had allways been in the club. Pleasure to meet you sir , i know you will be back .

Hopefully he will join BCUK become a member and post his pics.

[Ivan...]

Part 3
After all were informed of the new location ( some rather glad ! ) We set up had a nerve calming drink , and awaited the arrival of all the other fools , sorry serious bushcrafters ,

Everyone safely ensconsed at camp , we set about the serious business of Christmas lights , tinsel etc.

Special thanks to Dave53 ( the paparazzi ) you will see !! for the double turkey breast and stuffing , and of course to TBL for his cheffing duties did us proud again mate , by the way only an opinion of course but warm saki tates like badger wee wee !

Nice to see Skate and Savagewolfrm , who were only day visitors , although when Lucy became unwell and we had to get her MOT'd and serviced , kept the home fires burning .

[Robbi]

Part 3
by the way only an opinion of course but warm saki tates like badger wee wee !.

i've got to ask Ivan.........how do you know ? :)

[Ivan...]

Dear Robbi, in answer to your question , my scatalogical knowledge is second to none , which of course includes urine, and after many meets having tasted home brewed beer , wine , mead etc its easy to make a comparison , warm saki was a new one on me and was awfull, i nearly likened it to a cross between sheep dip and ear wax , hope this has cleared up your concerns .

Ivan...

[Ivan...]

Part 4
Fortunately the rest of the weekend went without incident , and as it was not Dartmoor 5 and there were not the usual numbers , we did not do many bushcrafty things , so apart from the impending photographic evidence of the trip i for once don't have anything else to add , other than thanks guys for another memorable weekend and apologies for the rain on Sunday .


BY the way , the silver birch wine , although very sweet was really nice and i can't liken that to any wee wee , at all !

OH maybe Lucy's

[LRforestschool]

Part 4
Fortunately the rest of the weekend went without incident , and as it was not Dartmoor 5 and there were not the usual numbers , we did not do many bushcrafty things , so apart from the impending photographic evidence of the trip i for once don't have anything else to add , other than thanks guys for another memorable weekend and apologies for the rain on Sunday .


BY the way , the silver birch wine , although very sweet was really nice and i can't liken that to any wee wee , at all !

OH maybe Lucy's


bit random ???????

[Ivan...]

Apologies Lucy, but when you were in the ambulance i asked one of the paramedics if i could have some samples, and for a small fee he obliged , not sure what samples he gave me but hey ho !

[Ichneumon]

so apart from the impending photographic evidence of the trip i for once don't have anything else to add

Thank God! I was expecting a right larruping. It's a wonderful sleeping bag and worth every penny. Well - it is if you get into the right side of it! :)

[Ivan...]

Don't worry Mr Newman , i have not forgotten about that little matter , i was just wondering whether to start a new thread on the subject to maximise ridicule and pleasure.

[LRforestschool]

Thank God! I was expecting a right larruping. It's a wonderful sleeping bag and worth every penny. Well - it is if you get into the right side of it! :)

That was one of the funniest stories of the meet for me when you let us know this morning.

[Arry]

I would like to say that all of you arrys and mrs arry are all degenerates - I'm glad to part of it and look forward to being awarded my degenerate badge along with how to try a light afire and of course my first age badge.
Next time is someone gonna show me how to make a woggle.

I sent the photo to 'Itchy man' or whatever his name is and he gonna get them on the form

[Ivan...]

Welcome aboard the good ship BCUK Arry , the decent thing to do is announce your arrival under the introductions thingy , and people you dont even know will be nice !

Then straight back here to help slate and extract the urine out of Itchynewbloke and others , good man .

[skate]

Sorry to hear you took a turn for the worse Lucy. Good job you were in capable hands. Hope you feel ok now. Really enjoyed my brief visit and wished it could have been longer. See you all next time.

[LRforestschool]

I would like to say that all of you arrys and mrs arry are all degenerates - I'm glad to part of it and look forward to being awarded my degenerate badge along with how to try a light afire and of course my first age badge.
Next time is someone gonna show me how to make a woggle.

I sent the photo to 'Itchy man' or whatever his name is and he gonna get them on the form

I hereby award you the first aid for lucy badge - for managing to keep me awake while walking and supporting me across the bog, fields and down the lane, with Adam. Wish I could remember a single thing you said! What a baptism of fire for you - just want to explain that we can't always supply such exciting entertainment.

[LRforestschool]

Sorry to hear you took a turn for the worse Lucy. Good job you were in capable hands. Hope you feel ok now. Really enjoyed my brief visit and wished it could have been longer. See you all next time.

Thanks for the good wishes Skate. I'm on the mend now thanks. Nice to see you.

[Arry]

Welcome aboard the good ship BCUK Arry , the decent thing to do is announce your arrival under the introductions thingy ,


I've done the 'decent thing' but don't tell anyone they'll get the wrong impression of me!!

[Ichneumon]

http://s1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc460/Ichneumon50/Devon Bushcraft 2/ (http://s1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc460/Ichneumon50/Devon%20Bushcraft%202/)

There was rather too many of them to link them directly to the forum so you'll have to visit Photobucket.

Looking forward to seeing Dave53's pics

[Bushwhacker]

I was packed and ready to head down on Saturday after football but got an offer of going for a meal with the stable girls and it seemed the sensible option at that point.
Hope you all had a good time.

[savagebushcraft]

Fantastic photos there Paul. Nicely done goodjob

[Ivan...]

Good Afternoon,
I thought i may raise the important subject of kit selection, we all like to think that with the aid of common sense , this forum and the internet in general ,that when we want to invest our hard earned cash on something ,that when we push the add to cart button, we have made the right choice .

Without mentioning any names , a certain member of the group made a purchase knowing he was spending a w/e on Dartmoor in December , so after much studying and homework , decided on the snugpak turboliser , special patrol group canine genitalia, in olive ( £180 quids worth )

I for one rushed up to his spot on Sat morning at 7,30am , to find out how the new wonder bag had performed , oh! dear not a happy bunny , the friday afternoon shift at snugpak had not bothered to put their usual care and attention into this particular one .

As this is a family forum at times i cant repeat the statement that our nameless colleague chose to release , needless to say choice woodland words .
Still as the following night was about 8 degrees warmer , i thought i would approach him again , oh dear ! still smarting , but in all fairness to snugpak , you do have to get into the thing properly , not between the linings , if you know what i mean ?

I haven't laughed so much as when granny caught her boobs in the mangel !!

Sorry Paul (oops! )

[Ivan...]

Nice one Arry , and thankyou Paul for offloading them or whatever you do ! they are a lovely reminder of another great weekend on sunny Dartmoor ,
did anyone notice big Al having a wee in the background of one ?

Its a great idea to keep your photos in a bucket , modern technology eh ?

[Ichneumon]

Only two parts of my anatomy froze! They were just a bit too close (and important to me) for comfort! :aargh4:

Yes, I saw that too. My question is: Why is Dave taking a picture of Lucy's bottom from that angle? He was s'ppose to be kissing her under the mistletoe! :)

[Ivan...]

Oh while i remember , sincere apologies to Dean , who was intending joining us for a brew and a wander , unfortunately we didn't have a contact number for you ( i think i pm'd you mine ? ) and those with fancy phones could not access the tintertweb to let you know what was going on .

Hopefully the inclement weather mean't that you did not have a wasted journey , as you can see it was an interesting w/e , and hopefully you will be able to make Dartmoor 5 , early in the new year .

Atb Ivan... and the gang .

[Ichneumon]

Do I detect an oxymoron in Bushwacker's post?!:joke: Before I get flamed!

[Bushwhacker]

Do I detect an oxymoron in Bushwacker's post!:joke: Before I get flamed!
I did wonder if someone would pick up on it. :)
Certainly, none of us were stable by the end of the night.

[Ivan...]

Oi ! Bushwhacker , i thought oxymoron was a teenage acne formula , and for the record you have not gone out with a stable girl in your life.

Not to worry pal 2012 will have plenty of dates for doing what we do best , and hope i am cordially invited to your famous cider festival again '

[LRforestschool]

Only two parts of my anatomy froze! They were just a bit too close (and important to me) for comfort! :aargh4:

Yes, I saw that too. My question is: Why is Dave taking a picture of Lucy's bottom from that angle? He was s'ppose to be kissing her under the mistletoe! :)

Well I for one was in the moment, even if Dave was just busy with his camera!

[Bushwhacker]

Oi ! Bushwhacker , i thought oxymoron was a teenage acne formula , and for the record you have not gone out with a stable girl in your life.

Not to worry pal 2012 will have plenty of dates for doing what we do best , and hope i am cordially invited to your famous cider festival again '

Absolutely on all counts. If I'm on the ball we can have more numbers when I get the yard properly turfed or failing that we'll corden off part of the scramble track for tenting.

[LRforestschool]

Been having a good look at those super photos and realise from all the big smiles on my face just how much I value these meets and the super company, and what fantastic fun they are. Okay so I might have the odd life-risking experience and become semi-conscious - but gosh that is a small price to pay in return for the opportunity to sit in the rain with you guys and listen to some dubious jokes.

Roll on next year and more meets and next time I will remember not to come in just the evening dress and high heels with matching clutch bag - sensed it might not be quite enough for December, but a girl has to look her best!

I too am looking forward to Dave's photos (I think). Feel free Dave to show the ambulance ones - what little pride I still had was lost that night so nothing else to lose now!

[savagebushcraft]

Women...you can't take them anywhere :p

[jonajuna]

ok, i see whats gone on here.. though a person of the female persuasion, with hypothermia, in the woods, with a load of random males.... and you all defaulted to the emergency services?

why not the the highly effective, very tried and tested field first aid of stripping down to your nuddies and two-upping into a sleeping bag?

not one of the dodgy snugpak types though

thats the trouble with Mears and Co bushcrafters... all wooden spoons and mobile phones....... the Teddy Grylls survivalists do it old school......


ahem ;)

in all seriousness, glad all worked out well :)

[LRforestschool]

ok, i see whats gone on here.. though a person of the female persuasion, with hypothermia, in the woods, with a load of random males.... and you all defaulted to the emergency services?

why not the the highly effective, very tried and tested field first aid of stripping down to your nuddies and two-upping into a sleeping bag?

not one of the dodgy snugpak types though

thats the trouble with Mears and Co bushcrafters... all wooden spoons and mobile phones....... the Teddy Grylls survivalists do it old school......


ahem ;)

in all seriousness, glad all worked out well :)

And if it had been another bloke with hypothermia - do the old school guys still strip off and cuddle up?

I have to say that I remember nothing - so I'm just going on what they told me they tried!! lol

[Ichneumon]

We did think of that Jon. But with my record we thought that Lucy might end up in a different compartment of the same sleeping bag as her 'body warmer' - defeating the object! :o

[The Big Lebowski]

Fantastic weekend with a happy ending....! Shame it was just the 24 hours for us but holidays reset Jan 1'st :)

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Merry Christmas... al :)

[savagebushcraft]

Look at you, being all artie fartie lol.
Nice pictures all, will have to try and compete after christmas haha

[The Big Lebowski]

Deal... ;)

[jonajuna]

And if it had been another bloke with hypothermia - do the old school guys still strip off and cuddle up?

I have to say that I remember nothing - so I'm just going on what they told me they tried!! lol

alls fair in love war and bunker digging survivalism! and if it all fails, at least you have lunch for a good few days

[dave53]

hi all by now everyone and there mother knows about the dartmoor meet so the pickies here we go
turkey veg and gravy yum yum
http://i44.tinypic.com/a3f68y.jpg
group shot
http://i41.tinypic.com/21jokf9.jpg
our lucy before she took a turn for the worse
http://i44.tinypic.com/9602yv.jpg
this was a lento that andy bruce built at the last meet still up it shows some of his skills at shelter building
http://i41.tinypic.com/16ae7w8.jpg
the usual suspects
http://i39.tinypic.com/24yajbs.jpg
fire
http://i42.tinypic.com/9k4g90.jpg
lucy is in there somewhere
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nice ambulance
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lucy being attended to earlier i saw one of those nice men stick something in her ear draw your own conclusions
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achat around the fire
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thats all the photos for now
as usual ivan made us welcome and dispute the weather had a great time
hats of to al the big labowski aka buckeroo now known as doctor bob, and all that helped our lucy, and rick for a fantastic fire when we all got back to be honest if lucy hadn't lasted the night we were going to bury her in the hangi and say nowt lol just joking lucy
looking forward to the next meet in 2012 regards to you all dave

[jonajuna]

this talk of nights in the woods, in the cold, with men cuddled up to stay alive, has had me daydreaming of a weeks course i did in jan 2010...... had rain, gales, snow, ice and minus seven temps. all in a leanto shelter (though as you will see, the weather took its toll by the end of the week and we had to patch up with tarps over the top)

unrelated to this thread other than that, the photo album if you are interested.... http://s836.photobucket.com/albums/zz286/survivalschool_2010/

[dave53]

hi all nice shots al,arry,and john that camera is a little cracker arry regards dave:lmao:

[Arry]

hi all nice shots al,arry,and john that camera is a little cracker arry regards dave:lmao:

Totally agree - there's some very good shots, of some very nice people and of a very memorable weekend. Looking forward to the next one that I can get to!

The 'cracking little camera' (which ain't so little) is an Olympus SP-800UZ - if anyone's interested

[Ivan...]

Well done on the pics front you chaps , i look like i need ironing ! and i think i spotted a grey hair ? Rick looks like Stan Laurel , Adam looks like Basil Rathbone and Lucy looks like she is sucking a two pence piece .

[savagebushcraft]

Just uploaded the few photos I took over the weekend, and the first three shots prove Rick was to blame for getting everyone drunk. Passing out drinks and not taking no for an answer...that cheeky cockney chappy...:p

See? Lucy doesn't want a drink....

http://i1024.photobucket.com/albums/y304/crazysaint22/Dartmoor Weekend/IMGP3943.jpg

...but she gets one anyway...

http://i1024.photobucket.com/albums/y304/crazysaint22/Dartmoor Weekend/IMGP3944.jpg

And so does Dave...

http://i1024.photobucket.com/albums/y304/crazysaint22/Dartmoor Weekend/IMGP3945.jpg

This is about as arty as I got...

http://i1024.photobucket.com/albums/y304/crazysaint22/Dartmoor Weekend/IMGP3946.jpg

Then the rest of the pics...

http://i1024.photobucket.com/albums/y304/crazysaint22/Dartmoor Weekend/IMGP3947.jpg

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And not forgetting the chef..."Al" la vogue

http://i1024.photobucket.com/albums/y304/crazysaint22/Dartmoor Weekend/IMGP3961.jpg

[Arry]

[QUOTE=savagebushcraft;1007502]Just uploaded the few photos I took over the weekend, and the first three shots prove Rick was to blame for getting everyone drunk. Passing out drinks and not taking no for an answer...that cheeky cockney chappy...:p

QUOTE]

that cheeky cockney chappy ... did you see the 2 photos of me standing there with me hand out waiting for a drink that never came ... you're right it's Ricks fault

[savagebushcraft]

Maybe he didn't want to ruin the new lad :D

[Savagewolfrm]

That's it blame the cockney cheapie chap but it was fun getting you all drunk I now own bank accept details etc lol

[skate]

Great photos, Al's efforts were very good, he obviously has "the eye" but don't tell him as he's had enough praise lately. What with his chefing, sharpening, doctoring skills etc. The rest of us just sit back and watch :beerchug:
Thanks everyone for another memorable weekend.

[LRforestschool]

Great photos, Al's efforts were very good, he obviously has "the eye" but don't tell him as he's had enough praise lately. What with his chefing, sharpening, doctoring skills etc. The rest of us just sit back and watch :beerchug:
Thanks everyone for another memorable weekend.

The fear is that eventually Al will be drawn to the idea of combining all those skills - with some field surgery. Thank god I only had hypothermia - if I get appendicitis I am keeping it to myself!

[The Big Lebowski]

How bizarre...!

Was just going to post, one day I'll get to use my scalpel :)

I'm sure nothing much has moved on since 1985, and a rather deceased mouse.

[savagebushcraft]

Thank god I only had hypothermia - if I get appendicitis I am keeping it to myself!

Ahhh yes, I believe appendicitis requires an endoscope and a frontal lobotomy...correct me if I'm wrong :D

[Savagewolfrm]

Ah the fun of a rectal thermometer lol think Ivan has asked for frontal labotomy lol

[LRforestschool]

Ah the fun of a rectal thermometer lol think Ivan has asked for frontal labotomy lol



thought I had had a frontal lobotomy on Saturday!

[LRforestschool]

I can see you guys scrubbing down the wooden bench, Al takes a swig of the brandy to steady his hand and off he goes with the heart surgery or amputation.

Will need a light touch with the splitting axe!

[savagebushcraft]

http://i1024.photobucket.com/albums/y304/crazysaint22/bushcraft locations/oddballs/docAl.jpg

OOOOH MATRON....

[LRforestschool]

Excellent pic!

Very 'MASH'.

[Ichneumon]

MASH?? Nah.... DASH I think. :)

[The Big Lebowski]

I just spat beer over my monitor...!

:rofl:

[savagebushcraft]

LOL, better call 'Arry for some IT support :D

[LRforestschool]

If this is MASH, is Ivan either Potter or Blake? Our commanding officer!

[savagebushcraft]

I do hope not...lol

[LRforestschool]

I'd like to be Houlihan but fear I may only be as attractive as Klinger in drag!

[savagebushcraft]

I really wish I had watched more *M*A*S*H* when I was younger :(

[Ichneumon]

If you're Houlihan we'll have to find out if you're a real blonde! :wow1:

[LRforestschool]

I really wish I had watched more *M*A*S*H* when I was younger :(


That is depressing - when I was younger there was no M*A*S*H!

[jonajuna]

Ooo, can we book the the ops for the next meet? I'm in need of my minor surgery ticket ;)

Sent via tapatalk from my shiny sgs2

[LRforestschool]

Is this my chance for a cheap nose job?

[Ichneumon]

Nose job? That's a new fetish, never heard of that one. ;)

[LRforestschool]

Anyway, back to the serious stuff - when is the next meet?

[Harvestman]

I've not been to one of these, so maybe I'm wrong, but is there a sort of Devon Meet theme of traumatising the females? I seem to recall an axe injury prior to the hypothermia.

Just wondering :)

[Deaner666]

Cheers for the concern Ivan, but don't worry, I didn't make it to the plantation over the weekend. Got caught up with extended work commitments (boo hiss) and other more pleasant family commitments and couldn't get away. The youngest bushcraft bairn in Blighty will have to wait 'til the next meet to sample the delights of hypothermia inducing nights in the woods!

Glad everyone was OK in the end!

[savagebushcraft]

I've not been to one of these, so maybe I'm wrong, but is there a sort of Devon Meet theme of traumatising the females? I seem to recall an axe injury prior to the hypothermia.

Just wondering :)

Last time, Ivan "nearly" cut his toes of with a felling axe, and I cut my finger open on a small hatchet lol. I don't think bushcrafters should be allowed to play with sharp things :p

[Bushwhacker]

If this is MASH, is Ivan either Potter or Blake? Our commanding officer!

More like Godfrey from Dad's Army.

[VANDEEN]

Then just as we were tucking in to our sausage and bacon rolls , the plod turned up !! treated us as if we were terrorists, asked us if we were armed

Hope you offered them round & a brew?
What were they like with your sharps etc? or were they only interested in firearms?


After much radio work and a call to the owner of the wood ( not naming them or the warden etc ) it was decided that we should be evicted forthwith.


That made me chuckle a bit, had they turned up at our Brockwell September meet they would have still been cataloging our "arms" (sharps) at their shift change :rofl:

The site game keeper wandered through our camp on the Sunday morning as there had been an incident between two other groups of people & he wanted to know if we'd been affected too, having got to the end of our pitch he was chatting to us and said that when he noticed how many blokes there were in our group & the assortment of sharps he wasn't in the slightest bit surprised they hadn't bothered us & only stuck to a "soft target".

Haaving rear the rest of the posts, sounds like a fun meet. :)

[Arry]

LOL, better call 'Arry for some IT support :D

Sorry this situation would require Special Help (SH) IT and I can't do thhat when i'm falling off my chair!!

[Ivan...]

Hi Vandeen,
I think it was a worried dogwalker , that had called the Police , the warden was fine just doing his job , in answer to your questions.

It was a little worrying to see two burly coppers making a beeline for us , and to be honest they approached with a little caution , i suppose when you have packs , tarps , bedding etc all laid out and you are dressed in a bushcraft fashion ! it does look a bit wierd to those that don't get it , they were a bit aggressive at first , separated us , a bit good cop bad cop ! and whilst waiting for radio confirmation that we weren't wanted criminals , they asked if we were armed , we said no , any air rifles , cattys etc ? no , then asked what the mora was for , i explained , then he kicked a black bin liner ( for rubbish removal ) and said whats in there ? i said my pillow !
Then the one who was about 15 said, thats not very Ray Mears , i then said they were both welcome to a roll , and to stay the night to see what it was all about , they both declined , by this time the mood had lightened , at this point they wished us well and retreated to the relative warmth of the squad car .

In all seriousness, i know they have a job to do , and we could have been anybody , it was just a little strange to start off with .
Its funny how the week before they hadn't fancied walking a lot deeper in the wood , At 2.00am , after a report of 2 wierdos camping ! Instead they phoned Adams family ( via car reg details ) to confirm who we were and what we were up to . pair of wusses .

[Ivan...]

Oi Bushwhacker ! Godfrey ! dont see the resemblance at all , just remember although he appeared mild mannered, he once tried to strangle his own son ! flashbacks of his traumatic time at the Somme .
Everyone around him , knew you couldn't wake him up quickly as he could jump into soldier /attack mode , so just watch out .

I am not sure which is the worst character i have been likened to, feel free to add to the list , one that makes me laugh most , coupled with Katies idea of the funniest , wins a small prize.

Dead or alive !

Leslie Nielson
David Icke

[Bushwhacker]

Leslie Nielson
David Icke
Geoffrey from Rainbow (BW)

[Ichneumon]

Leslie Nielson
David Icke
Geoffrey from Rainbow (BW)
Third from the left! http://www.allmoviephoto.com/photo/2003_the_jungle_book_2_011.htm l

[Savagewolfrm]

Cat Weazle springs to mind lol

[savagebushcraft]

Leslie Nielson
David Icke
Geoffrey from Rainbow (BW)
Third from the left! http://www.allmoviephoto.com/photo/2...ook_2_011.html (http://www.allmoviephoto.com/photo/2003_the_jungle_book_2_011.htm l)
Cat Weazle springs to mind lol
Hoggle from the labyrinth
http://chilejuguetes.files.wordpress. com/2008/03/hoggle.jpg

http://i1024.photobucket.com/albums/y304/crazysaint22/bushcraft locations/oddballs/labyrinth.jpg

[Savagewolfrm]

yeah Hoggles got to be the winner split from birth these two :lmao:

[savagebushcraft]

Around the same age as well I believe :p

[LRforestschool]

I think Peter Pan ought to be on the list too, but not for looks, more for attitude!

[jonajuna]

The police came? Was this a bush meet or a 999 night? No Lucy, don't do nose jobs but have been toying with the idea of botox parties... I've read the theory, have the legal authority, just need a few guinea pigs..... sorry.... Patients to practice on ;)

Sent via tapatalk from my shiny sgs2

[Ivan...]

Hey Jon, how much botox have you got ? i wonder what quantity of that stuff you would need to remove the wrinkles from my furrowed brow ? anything else you recommend to get rid of that leathery outdoor look ? oh and i fancy a trout pout .

( cash waiting )

[The Big Lebowski]

Sorry... I could'nt resist!

http://i41.tinypic.com/111l305.jpg

[LRforestschool]

that last one is a bit cruel - but actually....

No we love you as you are Ivan, no botox needed!

[kard133]

Sorry to hear about Lucy's brush with hypothermia, glad everything worked out in the end. Probably a good thing I couldn't make this weekend, otherwise they would probably still be searching me for sharps :) Hope to see everyone at at Dartmoor 5.

[LRforestschool]

As an aside - Is anyone else finding all the ads popping up everywhere really irritating? Bad enough on the TV, in magazines, on roadsides, in the underground etc. is there nowhere sacred any more where we aren't being manipulated and cajoled!

Reviewing my kit for next year (some would say I am doing that one meet too late). If anyone has any second hand gear they want to sell - layers/waterproofs, tarps and hammocks, sleeping bags, (4 season) bivvy bags, slings etc. please let me know what you have and how much (know how you guys love to upgrade!) I'm not proud - they don't need to be this year's latest all singing and dancing kit, just warm and effective is great. Think I will keep off the ground and well wrapped up next year and restore some of my credibility if I can. Only reason to sleep on the ground will be the fun of a hand-made shelter sometimes.

[jonajuna]

Whats wrong with ground dwelling? Slings eh? As in rock climbing slings? Have a good few here & krabs quickdraws and so on

Sent via tapatalk from my shiny sgs2

[Ivan...]

Hey Lucy , the ad thing should only be there until you log in, might make a few more visitors join ! i for one hope it does not become on here full time , any way business is business.

I probably know of a nearly new sleeping bag , going cheap soon , only used twice ! can't divulge owner yet though !
Glad you are feeling better , roll on 2012 , in particular Dartmoor 5.

Anyway there is nothing wrong with ground dwelling !

[savagebushcraft]

Lucy, I think your greatest contributing factors were....

Lack of food during the day and evening (your body needs the fuel to burn)
Lack of head gear (true, the 80% of body heat is NOT lost through the head, but through ALL extremities)
Lack of gloves (for the above, bracketed reason)
Lack of layers (a good pair of thermals, is always a good idea)

Most of those things can be worn inside your sleeping bag, if it gets really cold, as long as you don't make yourself sweat.

[Ichneumon]

Huh! Nuffin' wrong with my new bag. It's a great bag...... Just not quite all it was cracked up to be. :sigh:

Seriously now: You didn't get cold at night Lucy, so I don't think you need to change your sleeping system. You might want to revue your day wear for winter time though. A warm two-piece full length base-layer set will only set you back about 20 squid. Not very alluring maybe..... but toastie, which is the important thing. A lot of heat is lost through the head (quotes vary but about 30%) so you might wanna put a beanie on your shopping list too.
Hope you don't mind me saying, but we don't want any more of this - :stretcher:

Roll on Dartmoor 5.

ATB Paul

[Ichneumon]

I hadn't seen what Adam had written when I wrote my post. But it seems we are both singing from the same hymn-sheet. :)

[Tadpole]

The quoted "10% heat loss" through the head is only because the rest of your body is (normally) covered. ( your head is roughly 9% of your body, or so I am told) Wear a hat but no gloves, and you’ll still lose massive amount of heat through your exposed hands.(hands are 2% of the body surface) Layers is the answer, right from the outset you need to think layers, first you need a good compression layer (Aldi sell leggings and tops for under a £10 each) a wicking layer, a windproof layer and if necessary a waterproof layer. Good shoes/boot and two thin pairs of socks. If it’s not too cold then wear thin lightweight gloves( boots sell cotton gloves for a couple of pounds and they are cheap enough to throw away if they get ruined) a scarf and a beanie hat, as it get colder then think over gloves, and a thicker scarf and windproof hat. When it gets really cold then wear mittens.
YMMV

[savagebushcraft]

Agree with Paul and Mr Pole here. goodjob

As mentioned by Tadpole, thinner socks are best, as your toes need to be able to move freely, which greatly aids circulation (same with fingers) and warmth.
Scarfs are a good idea, as overlapping layers will keep heat loss to a minimum, as well as stopping drafts.

[savagebushcraft]

I hadn't seen what Adam had written when I wrote my post. But it seems we are both singing from the same hymn-sheet. :)

Maybe if we tell her enough times, she will listen....then again....woman :p

[Ivan...]

All great advice chaps, in Lucys defence , she will by her own admission , not have the most comprehensive kit , which between us we can sort .


A couple of other factors were, that she was getting over a nasty chest infection, she had lost a bit of weight due to that and the stress she had been under , finishing her course work and holding down a full time job , also her proper walking boots were wet , so she wore steelys !
I did offer her a sleep mat , but being as hard as nails she refused, and finally she does not drink alcohol from one meet to the next , and we all know what that can do .

As said before some valuable lessons learned from the experience, it turned out ok ! and we must ensure it never happens again .

Hers too good a member of the gang to lose !!

Ivan...

[Arry]

But it seems we are both singing from the same hymn-sheet. :)

On the subject of hymns - I found a Xmas one for all bushcrafters - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3M7IR6jkpc

[Harvestman]

The quoted "10% heat loss" through the head is only because the rest of your body is (normally) covered. ( your head is roughly 9% of your body, or so I am told) Wear a hat but no gloves, and you’ll still lose massive amount of heat through your exposed hands.(hands are 2% of the body surface) Layers is the answer, right from the outset you need to think layers, first you need a good compression layer (Aldi sell leggings and tops for under a £10 each) a wicking layer, a windproof layer and if necessary a waterproof layer. Good shoes/boot and two thin pairs of socks. If it’s not too cold then wear thin lightweight gloves( boots sell cotton gloves for a couple of pounds and they are cheap enough to throw away if they get ruined) a scarf and a beanie hat, as it get colder then think over gloves, and a thicker scarf and windproof hat. When it gets really cold then wear mittens.
YMMV

Horse bolted? Check.
Door closed? Check.

:rolleyes:

Ok, seriously, I thought something similar on looking at the pictures, and prevention for next time is always good. Life teaches lessons, and in this case no lasting harm was done. Good advice given out here, and I'm sure it will be heeded by all of us, not just Lucy. I'm planning a winter camp more or less solo after Christmas, and this is a timely reminder to make sure I prepare appropriately in terms of kit and pack the right resources in terms of food supplies.

[LRforestschool]

Appreciate all of the sound advice and had given myself a good talking to about only eating three small oatcakes between the evening before and the turkey that evening, and should have got the kettle and had my usual frequent hot drinks. Got careless with the clothing, didn't take into account the nearly two months of chest problems (no jokes please), subsequent lack of sleep and huge weight loss , kept taking my hat off, let my hands get cold when I was shifting wet wood in the morning and never warmed them properly again, left my decent boots at home as they were very wet - the list goes on.... After a lifetime of outdoor living/working and never suffering even slightly from hypothermia, I was taken aback by the speed and intensity.

A very sick bunny before I got there and a very stupid one when I was there.

The good thing is that I found it out by making a mistake on myself and not someone else I was responsible for. I won't be making that stupid sort of mistake again! Will start knitting myself a scarf to keep me busy until the next meet!

Ground dwelling is fine, just not a big fan of stuffy tents. Feels a lot nicer in a hammock.

Will be taking all of your comments on board xx

[Tadpole]

Instead of knitting a scarf buy a metre square of the nicest Egyptian cotton cloth you fancy, hem it. And use that, more versatile you can use it as a head scarf or a neck scarf, wrap it round your neck, face, head, tuck it under your hat or wear it like Laurence of Arabia. And it can double as a swimming costume if you are brave or daft enough to want to go swimming in the winter… :o

[savagebushcraft]

I'm planning a winter camp more or less solo after Christmas, and this is a timely reminder to make sure I prepare appropriately in terms of kit and pack the right resources in terms of food supplies.

I'm sure you are well aware of planning, etc, but remember to tell several people where you're going, when you expect to be back, make check in calls at certain times, always have an escape plan :).

Solo journeys can be dangerous at any time of the year, but winter is when most go wrong. Typically, mostly due to hypothermia, as us folk in this country don't feel it ever gets that cold, that quickly. Also, if you are driving to a location, pack plenty of spare food and clothes in the vehicle, just in case you find yourself snowed in, and have to haul up in the motor for a while. No gas stoves in the tent, no matter how cold or windy it is, carbon monoxide is a killer in confined spaces, especially around ground level (where you'll be sleeping).

Be safe buddy, and hope you have a great time.

Adam

[LRforestschool]

I am trying to work out if a metre square would cover all my bits for swimming... but in general a very good point and I will put that one into action.

The up side to getting into trouble is the useful advice that follows - late but still valuable.

And thank you for all being very polite and not pointing out my stupidity too bluntly. Such gents!

[Harvestman]

I'm sure you are well aware of planning, etc, but remember to tell several people where you're going, when you expect to be back, make check in calls at certain times, always have an escape plan :).

Solo journeys can be dangerous at any time of the year, but winter is when most go wrong. Typically, mostly due to hypothermia, as us folk in this country don't feel it ever gets that cold, that quickly. Also, if you are driving to a location, pack plenty of spare food and clothes in the vehicle, just in case you find yourself snowed in, and have to haul up in the motor for a while. No gas stoves in the tent, no matter how cold or windy it is, carbon monoxide is a killer in confined spaces, especially around ground level (where you'll be sleeping).

Be safe buddy, and hope you have a great time.

Adam

Oh yes, definately. I've done this a lot previously, but that doesn't mean it can't go wrong this time. I checked out the intended site this time last year in about 3 feet of snow, so I know what resources are available in bad weather (and if it is worse than that I won't be able to get there!), and there is a bothy a few hundred yards away too. Also a road within easy distance and some habitation. Basically a quiet spot but close to walker traffic if I need to flag someone down. My wife is fully aware of the plans and my location, and knows the place herself too. In the event, I'm not afraid to bug out if it gets unpleasant. This is about having fun, not raw survival. Wife will drop me off and pick me up, as she needs the car herself during the intended period.

Thanks for the kind words of advice. I'll post pics after the event.

[Harvestman]

And thank you for all being very polite and not pointing out my stupidity too bluntly. Such gents!

If there is someone on here who hasn't done something stupid outdoors at some point, then I haven't met them yet. It is just that sometimes you get away with it, and sometimes you don't. I got away with mine, but only just. I learned more from that single experience than the other 25 years outdoors have taught me.

See my tag line :)

[savagebushcraft]

Oh yes, definately. I've done this a lot previously, but that doesn't mean it can't go wrong this time. I checked out the intended site this time last year in about 3 feet of snow, so I know what resources are available in bad weather (and if it is worse than that I won't be able to get there!), and there is a bothy a few hundred yards away too. Also a road within easy distance and some habitation. Basically a quiet spot but close to walker traffic if I need to flag someone down. My wife is fully aware of the plans and my location, and knows the place herself too. In the event, I'm not afraid to bug out if it gets unpleasant. This is about having fun, not raw survival. Wife will drop me off and pick me up, as she needs the car herself during the intended period.

Thanks for the kind words of advice. I'll post pics after the event.

Looks like you got it planned better than most wilderness experts lol. Look forward to seeing the pics mate.

[dave53]

hi all just reading the latest round of threads lucy we love you don't die on us, (just being an old mother hen here) but did you go to the doctors as suggested ?
everyone above have only said what i said to you on the day hats and gloves and thermals regards dave

[LRforestschool]

Hi Dave, as you will have realised from my unwillingness to go to A&E the other night, not huge on the whole doctoring thing.

Thermals are in my letter to santa - he will know it is a good idea too.

[Ivan...]

Uh Oh ! Mongoose alert ! think the lookalike competion could be decided tonight , by the way everyone don't tell her we went camping or had any kind of meet or fun, the weekend just gone .

She wouldn't have liked it anyway , remember mums the word ....

[LRforestschool]

Uh Oh ! Mongoose alert ! think the lookalike competion could be decided tonight , by the way everyone don't tell her we went camping or had any kind of meet or fun, the weekend just gone .

She wouldn't have liked it anyway , remember mums the word ....

I don't remember the weekend anyway!

[Ivan...]

Hey Lucy , that reminds me of one of the jokes from the w/e Boy says to girl " Do you fancy a night to remember ? " "No" so i dropped rohipnol in her drink !!

I now can save a fortune on drugs , just cool a girl down a bit , i mean a lot !!

Sorry , but you did say you were in for it and would take it in the spirit it was mean't ...

[LRforestschool]

Hey Lucy , that reminds me of one of the jokes from the w/e Boy says to girl " Do you fancy a night to remember ? " "No" so i dropped rohipnol in her drink !!

I now can save a fortune on drugs , just cool a girl down a bit , i mean a lot !!

Sorry , but you did say you were in for it and would take it in the spirit it was mean't ...

When I said you guys were all gents I had forgotten about you!
Back to talking about bushcraft stuff maybe? Some jokes work better late at night round a fire!

[Mongoose13]

David Dickinson HAHAHAHA!!! I'm still cross Dad - or should I say Dave!! You said I could come to this meet :(

[Ivan...]

You rotten little so and so ! any of the other entries would have been ok! even the vulture ! still judges decision is final .

Thankyou Katie , probably the most unlikely of all of the choices to get to a bushmeet , now all i have to do is think of a prize, then get you to pay for it and present it !

Thanks to all who took part , i will look at myself in a different light from now on !!

[Mongoose13]

You deserved it ;)

[savagebushcraft]

i will look at myself in a different light from now on !!

Will it be a more orange light?

[Ichneumon]

Pity I suggested a vulture from Junglebook. I should have suggested Ka - the snake. I believe that Rudyard Kipling also wrote about snakes and mongooses (Riki-tiki-tavi). The mongoose kills and eats the snake! Consider your yourself 'killed and eaten by a mongoose' Mr Ka (aka Ivan). :D

[savagebushcraft]

I believe that Rudyard Kipling also wrote about snakes and mongooses (Riki-tiki-tavi).

I heard he makes exceedingly good cakes too :p

[jonajuna]

Unless it's very cold, gloves and socks are more about comfort, maintaining a good core temp is most important as when temp drops, your blood will move away from extremities to your core to feed your main organs. Your Head however is the main organ and has a massive blood supply. So body first, and then head then hands and feet. Important to insulate from ground too, even sitting you lose heat quicker through ground than air. Re food... All about calories rather than volume hence the Inuit high fat diet. The perfect excuse for chocolate :)

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[Harvestman]

Unless it's very cold, gloves and socks are more about comfort, maintaining a good core temp is most important as when temp drops, your blood will move away from extremities to your core to feed your main organs. Your Head however is the main organ and has a massive blood supply. So body first, and then head then hands and feet. Important to insulate from ground too, even sitting you lose heat quicker through ground than air. Re food... All about calories rather than volume hence the Inuit high fat diet. The perfect excuse for chocolate :)

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Just to second this, the brain has a constant blood supply, unlike other organs, so head loss from the head is not reduced in cold weather by blood withdrawing. to the core (if it did, you would pass out).

[LRforestschool]

Would be interesting to research the ideal diet. I will get out my ref books from my days of studying anatomy and physiology.

[Ichneumon]

Looks like this guy knows what he's talking about - considering his profession and experience:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20061111095015AAEUQe 0

[LRforestschool]

This is proving to be an interesting line of investigation - looks like there are some differing views on the most efficient ways to keep warm, and where the greatest loss is.

[savagebushcraft]

I just listen to brainiac :D

[Tadpole]

I'm Not a doctor, Nor do I play one in a soap, but if'n you'd like to google "heat loss BMJ" you find an article on heat loss by the british medical journal. (second one down is fun)

[jonajuna]

both those articles fail to mention the issue we have already broached here....

when your temperature starts to drop, your vascular system contracts and slows/restricts the blood supply to the extremities as these, while rather important, can be sacrificed to ensure the essientials of the body continue to recieve warm oxygenated blood. in addition, if this process didnt occur, your blood would actively draw heat away from your core speeding up the loss of heat. this process is complicit in the issue of frost bite, its not just about the cold, as the cold could be offset by constant suply of warm blood... so food, core wamrth and preservation heat by insulation elsewhere will slow the progress of frost bite

re your head, as mentioned it is one of those essiential organs that unlike a foot or arm, you cannot live without. the blood supply doesnt, at first reduce to the brain the same way as it does to the limbs... though as the core temp drops, the same process will apply... hence the confusional state, slurring of words, lack of co-ordination.... all caused by a reduction of the blood supply to the brain.

the body is an amazing thing and will change and adapt as rapidly as it can to prolong and preserve its existence. of course there will come a point when the blood supply to the brain slows to such an extent you become comatose.. you are then completely unable to withdraw to safety and night night irene... but your body is still trying to save itself by doing that,, withdrawing the last of the heat and warm blood to the core to feed the most important organ, the heart (ok yes, you cant live without a brain either, but your heart can still pump warm blood round your body as long as it still has some coming to it.. head or not!)

so as i said, warm core, with a warm head gives the best chance of maintianing a good core temp. while you loose lots through your head, i dont know how much, but i do know you will continue to loose heat through your head long after your extremities have turned off the radiator vales

btw, i will happily question the "surgeon" on yahoo who states you will bleed out from any surface vascular bleed. does he not know about the clotting process that our blood cells and fibrin very convientiantly undertake for us? if that didnt happen, we would bleed out from any wound. vascular blood is not under pressure unlike arteial and the lack of goss muscle in the scap further slows the vascular ebb and flow. head wounds just look bad, a combination of lots of capillaries, tight skin and hair combined with the different type of soft tissues in the scalp that dont lend themselves to constricting the veins (hence the lack of vasoconstriction in the early stages of the cold to an extent too) as you find in more muscular parts of the body.... direct pressure to a scalp wound mimics the action of vasoconstriction, slows the flow and allows clotting to take place. though most scalp wounds over half inch will will require suturing to close them up.....

i am not a doctor, nor should this be a substitute for proper (face to face rather than the interweb) medical advice or treatment but i do have a day to day working knowledge of anatomy and physiology, though mostly from the neck up and as it goes, a bit of hepatology, immunology and the vascular system

[jonajuna]

and just to prove my point from the article in the gaurdian where a couple of peadiatricians set out in an "feature" in the BMJ (read that as tabloid article)

the links for ease......

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2008/dec/17/medicalresearch-humanbehaviour

which cites the BMJ article

http://www.bmj.com/content/337/bmj.a2769.full

which draws from a study:

http://jap.physiology.org/content/101/2/669?ijkey=896724fd0ea6cdcbc7e7 80402269c327ac6d74de&keytype2=tf_ipsecsha&linkType=ABST&journalCode=jap&resid=101/2/669

which concluded that core temp loss was expidiated by heat loss through the head and in the responses to the BMJ article a clincial physiologist (whose whole knowledge is about the physiological process of the body rather than child doctors (and any doctor will tell you a child dont work the same as the rest of the human race.. hence hardly any drugs actually have a license for use on children, their physiology is really quite different)

http://www.bmj.com/content/337/bmj.a2769?tab=responses

yes i spend much of my day arguing the toss with doctors too :P

[savagebushcraft]

And breath.....

:22::stretcher:goodjob

[LRforestschool]

And it all seemed so simple at the time....feel cold, shiver, stumble around, shiver a lot more, forget stuff......................... ........nice warm ambulance.

Shall we move on.....?

[jonajuna]

Shiver is good...? when you stop = very bad :(

Science of survival is not interesting? :( lol

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[Ivan...]

Taking Lucy's , last comment on board , as she was the poor camp mate most affected by the incident, lets put closure on the subject .

Thanks to all that have contributed to this thread with some sound advice and knowledge.

We all learned some valuable lessons from the weekend just gone , i certainly did !!

Lets all enjoy the upcoming festivities and look forward to lots of safe and happy meets in 2012 .

Thankyou Ivan...

PS Not saying i won't take the mickey about it in the future , but thats just me ...

[savagebushcraft]

We all learned some valuable lessons from the weekend just gone , i certainly did !!


Lessons like...
Put your waterproofs on, before it rains...
One box of matches and a lighter, is not enough to support two pipe smokers, for a whole weekend...
Fairy lights last several days, on 3 AA batteries...
Wood burns much better with chainsaw oil on it...
Gandalf wasn't so much grey, as blueish...
Ivan looks more like David Dickinson, than Hoggle...

:D

[The Big Lebowski]

Top points!

Not missing- Hammocks only work if they are under you whilst sitting down....

(If a certain female remembers :) )

[Arry]

Lessons like...
Put your waterproofs on, before it rains...
One box of matches and a lighter, is not enough to support two pipe smokers, for a whole weekend...
Fairy lights last several days, on 3 AA batteries...
Wood burns much better with chainsaw oil on it...
Gandalf wasn't so much grey, as blueish...
Ivan looks more like David Dickinson, than Hoggle...

:D

And don't forget to the safe weight load of your chair when it buy it ... if you don't want to end up sitting on frosty ground!! :lmao:

And Ivans prize will have to be "Cheap as chips"

[LRforestschool]

Top points!

Not missing- Hammocks only work if they are under you whilst sitting down....

(If a certain female remembers :) )

Now you mention it, a vague memory of that. Another thing not to try when there is reduced blood flow to the brain. Explains one of the bruises.

[The Big Lebowski]

I thought you might be wondering where they came from!

Your not alone; my learning curve was pulling off wellies whilst sitting in said hammock... Well I was at the start :p

[LRforestschool]

And the other lesson is 'He who saves your life by calling ambulance, may guide you into a cold bog on the way back from it !' (If a certain male remembers) :)

[The Big Lebowski]

Nerp :rolleyes:

Hewazzatthen? I blame the adrenalin depleting, and the port returning with vengeance!

[dave53]

let this thread be closed then AMEN regards dave:goodnight::camping:

[LRforestschool]

Nerp :rolleyes:

Hewazzatthen? I blame the adrenalin depleting, and the port returning with vengeance!

That was what I put it down to as well . :D

[LRforestschool]

Ivan, you need to name the next meet. We need something to plan for again!

[Ivan...]

Hello Everyone.
Didn't know where else to post this , without bugging all, but i sort of consider this my area !! Just wanted to say that as most of you know i have had a mixed year , ups and downs , but thanks obviously to discovering this site , i have met online and more importantly in person , some of the kindest , supportive most genuine friends i could wish for .

I am not going to name individuals as it would take too long and i know i would forget someone important !! But just a huge thankyou for your friendship and help , with making what ,we all love doing such a much more rewarding experience.

I would never believed , through joining a website , that in little over a year you could form such a bond and learn and laugh so much with people you had never met before , and that your first meeting would be in a woods on Dartmoor !! Tells you how much i know about life !

Anyway i won't go on , just to say thanks for being there , whether it be phone, pm, on here in general or in person. You are all star bars as a certain cockney member would say.

Hope you all have a wonderful Christmas and a happy and healthy new year , and heres to plenty more meets and get togethers in 2012 , as you know i don't put things as eloquently in writing as when talking !! so as usual excuse spellin , grammar etc , but i think you get the gist !


I will announce Dartmoor 5 ( haven't thought of a witty title yet ) early in the new year , coz i for one am itching to getting out again soon .

If we have half as much fun as in 2010 , that will do for me !

Once again many thanks chaps and chapesses, for just being YOU !!

Love and all things bushy

Ivan x

[LRforestschool]

For those I have no other way to contact - Happy Christmas and all the best for next year!!!!

[kard133]

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you all, Ivan, thanks for letting us know you and sharing your Wit around the camp fire, and to thanks to everyone I have met through Ivan's get together's, I hope to see you all again next year.

Cheers

[savagebushcraft]

Likewise here.
I'll make it quick...

"This is only the beginning" :cool:

[skate]

Big thanks to Ivan for making it happen and Katie for keeping him in order :)
I would also like to wish all my new found friends a great festive season and looking forward to burning off some seasonal fat at the next meet.
Cheers
Al

[Mongoose13]

Merry Christmas!! :) I don't think anyone could keep Dad in order though Skate ;)

[Savagewolfrm]

ah soft and sentimental....its all nice to wish merry hapiness etc but I wish you all many happy and glorified Hangovers over the next week or so and much stomach bloating with rich food and chocolates.
I will be toasting you all on Christmas Day so if you hear a clink, that will be me with my JD and a very small amount or red Absinthe that I have found and wish you ALL a joyous and wonderful end to the year, and look forward to starting next year with the same enthusiasm for Dartmoor 5 " wrap up warm tour ".
as Ivan has already said, soft and mushy time now, I have met some fantastic people through this site and at the meets and it is my pleasure to call you all friends and look forward to next year, sob sniffle welling up. blaah
All the best you guys you are all STARBARS in my eyes. love ya loads
Rick

[jonajuna]

Happy Christmas back at you and yours :)

Please arrange for snow on next meet... Plenty of it for igloo purposes :)

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[dave53]

yes as above merry xmas to you all from the welsh contingent its been a pleasure meeting new friends and getting down to dartmoor for the various meets looking forward to 2012 and the next meet regards and merry xmas to you all:christmas1::christmas2:

[TeaBee]

Best wishes for the festive season. See you all next year,

Trev

[The Big Lebowski]

All the very best, guy's and gal's...

Cheers!

[jonajuna]

Hope all the dartmoor guys I've met and am yet to meet have had a great day with Santa bringing you all lots of shinies :)

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[savagebushcraft]

Just back from the moors again. No santa, but there was jack and napoleon :D

[LRforestschool]

My younger son gave me a new very decent coat for bushcrafting in. Two very appropriate and effective layers that will keep me totally dry and toasty warm, and in a tasteful dark green - so a super start for next year's meets, and staying alive through them all. What a great son he is! Clearly software developers who don't get out in the wild much are actually more savvy to the ways of bushcrafters than I realised - must be because he walks a very long way to work every day, by choice and in all weathers, and is in tune with the elements!

Hope you all had a great christmas.

Lucy x

[Ivan...]

While the festive season is still upon us , and i wasn't sure where else to post this , my good old bushcrafting pal Adam got wind i was to be on my own for Christmas, kindly offered to come down and suggested we spent a couple of days in the woods .
Well that certainly cheered me up ! so we ended up in a woods owned by a good mate of ours , on the eastern fringes of Dartmoor , got set up and settled in for Christmas in the woods !

Great weekend , great grub , great company and a good old whistle stop tour of a bit of the moor on Christmas Day, took a bit of footage of our excursion , so when Adam has chance i am sure he will find a suitable place to post .

Was supposed to be finished off in Wales with some good pals of ours , but didn't work out , think those boys are enjoying themselves as we speak ! Hope so .

Anyway just putting the finishing touches to announcing a few possible dates for meets ahead . At least one beach , as that was fun , a couple of places on Dartmoor , and of course the usual handful of gatherings at camp Dartmoor The HQ ...

Well hope you all had a magic Christmas and santa brought you what you wanted ..

If there are any dates that are a serious no no for any of you , just let me know and we will try and work around them , if not looking forward to shouting out some dates to get the Dartmoor Granite Ball Rolling !

Ivan....

[skate]

Was on the moor today getting some post Christmas fresh air rehab :) found a brand new millbank bag! good old Santa Dartmoor.
Looking forward to the forth coming gatherings and as you probably know any dates are normally ok for me.

[LRforestschool]

I've got no dates I need to avoid Ivan. Nice to hear that you are considering another beach meet some time in the year - nothing like a cold swim to get over the absinthe! Looking forward to some good meets and good company in beautiful surroundings. Roll on 2012.

[jonajuna]

Nothing in the next few weeks that is in the way for me.

Btw, will there be trees cause I have a shiny new hammock :)

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[Savagewolfrm]

Us cockernys are up for anything you can throw my dear friend

[savagebushcraft]

And I have a bottle of JD that wants to come along :D

[jonajuna]

urgh to JD and sadly i didnt get (or buy as was hoping for a bottle for xmas/birthday) any tequila, i do however have a litre of smirnoff red that will remain full even after NYE (i have another half bottle to get through yet ;) )

so whens it gonna be? im gagging to get out and try my hammock now i have left the ground for the trees :) may have a non bushy friend who wants to come along and see what things us weirdos do, he's a sound chappy, not adverse to the outdoors ways of sitting round a camp fire in the evenings getting sloshed! lol

[Ivan...]

Hi Jon , and other interested parties, Skate and I are , having a bimble to a site on Saturday , have spoken to the owners and looks very promising, we will report back on here after we have had a good wander , would not be prudent to give the location as it might not be suitable , safe to say if you want to google somewhere very close , its Ramshorn Down , common land in the Dartmoor National Park , only issue is fire of course , but subject to my diplomatic skills ! A site very close could be good .

Failing that , good old faithful , will be called upon , two slight issues , are farmers requirements due to possible inclement weather ( unlikely ) and we would have to all muck in on a firewood hunt !

How does 13th - 15th Jan 2012 or 20th - 22nd Jan sound ? ....

Ivan...

Ps most importantly , with negotiations for use of the site , there might be a slight increase in cost , sorry out of my hands ..

Feedback , appreciated, as that has been the bit holding me back !!

[jonajuna]

as long as the price paid is in hard cash and not any of your usual campsite favours, i'm in ;)

Ivan my bud, you must stop the stressing, itll make you go grey :) a few quid to get to camp in wild woods, away from the hoards polluting commercial sites, with good friends made and yet to be made, is a few quid well spent. i doubt anyone would feel they are being ripped off, and if anyone did feel they couldnt afford/justify spending what ever the cost would be, they know upfront so would choose to not come along on that occassion. its not as if you get everyone there and then walk round saying "£50 or get orf me land"

[LRforestschool]

I'm up for either weekend, but the sooner you decide the better for me, so that I can fix something else I have to do for the weekend you don't have the meet (if you see what I mean!)

Nice one Ivan, for having kept the bushcraft crew together and overcome lots of obstacles this year. I'm sure that many others would agree, and some have already stated, that we owe you a lot for your good humour, generosity and kindness, and will be happy to follow you into your new ventures and new locations. x

[savagebushcraft]

Ok, rather than start another thread, I'll just post it here :)

The video from the christmas weekend, filmed (mostly) by Ivan...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fAhjV6E2oc&feature=yo utu.be

[Ivan...]

Thanks Adam , stirling job as ever , shame about the weather as we were planning to give you all a better tour of some of the local sites , still you get the gist , we did get chance to see a bit more but wind noise and water on the lens , made it horrible viewing .

A Christmas day i won't forget , thanks mate.

Oh! by the way did you pick up the kindling tenners ? only i can't seem to find them anywhere !

Ivan....

[savagebushcraft]

No worries mate.
Nope, haven't seen any tenners, fivers, twenties, etc. Must have burnt them all ;)

[Mongoose13]

http://www.didtheydie.com/morgue/images/jimmy_saville.jpg

My Dad ;)

[savagebushcraft]

:notworthy haha. classic.