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Hi all
how do you identifying the difference between Sweet Chestnut and Horse Chestnut?
Are the casings slightly different on the nuts?
Horse Chestnut are toxic aren't they? :eek:
The sweet chestnut has far more finer, sharper spines on it than the horse chestnut, which tends to coarser, blunter spikes. The nuts are different shapes as well, the sweet chestnut has a pointed end, the conker doesn't.
Hi Timtom,
The trees, once you understand the difference, are easy to tell apart.
The nut cases for example on the sweet chestnut have lots of fine spikes, like a little green hedgehog whilst the horse chestnut has a thick skin with short stumpy spines at intervals round it.
The leaves are also different. Have a look at the following to see.
Horse chestnut http://www.forestry.gov.uk/forestry/infd-5mgenf
sweet chestnut http://www.forestry.gov.uk/forestry/INFD-5MHE5X
Roving Rich
15-09-2005, 13:25
Hi Timtom - Yeah they are quite easy to tell apart - Horse Chestnut has three large leaves grouped together as one - The biggest leaf of any tree in the UK I think ? and the "horse Chestnut" or Conker comes in a spikey green casing with thick flesh, as said earlier, short dumpy spikes, about a fingers width apart.
Chestnut has a single oval leaf pointed at one end, with a distinctive "saw tooth" edge to it. The Chestnut itself comes in a very spikey - almost furry looking casing. The spines are like needles and very sharp and densely packed. Making them very difficult to pick up or open with bare hands.
I hope that helps
Cheers
Rich
Sweet chestnut: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9d/Chestnuts.jpg/250px-Chestnuts.jpg
The following is a link to a fairly objective assessment of potential toxicity of horse chestnut.
http://cal.vet.upenn.edu/poison/plants/pphorse.htm
It particularly focuses on the toxicity of young/ growing parts of the plant. There appears no clear description of a problem with the mature seed although there are substances in it that have not been subjected to tests it seems.
It does not report fatalities it seems.
bambodoggy
15-09-2005, 17:08
Both types can be eaten by humans....we simply choose to only eat the sweet ones as they taste nice!
No reason whatsoever why you can't eat horse chestnuts (conkers) other than the fact that due to them being incredably bitter there preparation takes longer as they need leaching and roasting etc.
Both types can be made into very passable meal for porridge and the like.
It's a popular myth that only sweet chestnuts can be eaten :D
Bam. :)
(Rich59, that site is talking about cows and other animals eating them raw (it's a Vet site!)... I'm not suggesting we eat them raw but leach them to remove the tannin and other stuff and then cook them before eating them).
to be honest i dont fancy eating conkers
its pretty easy to tell the difference sweet chesnuts are more furry than spikey and mostly their trees are smaller and the fruit are too...
if you can only find a conker tree get 2 pieces of string and play conkers with ur mate.....
you should forget about being hungry then...
watch your knuckles kids...
bambodoggy
19-09-2005, 20:49
to be honest i dont fancy eating conkers
its pretty easy to tell the difference sweet chesnuts are more furry than spikey and mostly their trees are smaller and the fruit are too...
if you can only find a conker tree get 2 pieces of string and play conkers with ur mate.....
you should forget about being hungry then...
watch your knuckles kids...
I have to agree I don't fancy eating them much either....my point was that you can eat them whereas most people think you can't ;)
In some ways it's a shame as they have very high food value and certainly far more than sweet chestnuts... back in far distant times they were often used as a famine food. :)
But for now, you're right....much better to play conkers with (unless it's been totally banned now....where did I leave my safety specs :eek: lol).
Cheers,
Bam. :)
Mr Mears did a piece of work with a section of sweet chesnut last night. I had no idea it had such properties. Looked sooooo easy to split and carve and the age rings were so defined.
Looks like lovely wood. But as Ray said that i will remember for future use....don't put it on the fire due to the high tannin content.
bambodoggy
19-09-2005, 21:19
Looks like lovely wood. But as Ray said that i will remember for future use....don't put it on the fire due to the high tannin content.
Lol....it spits like a Lama :D I do burn it but only every so often and mostly in my wood burner in the living room so it doesn't matter about the spitting ;)
Bam. :D
bardsandwarriors
25-09-2005, 22:51
Hi timtom, yes they are completely different. Once you've found a few trees and examined them, you'll be surprised you had to ask. Have you figured it out now?
One more difference, for the record... Sweet ch. has a group of 2 or 3 nuts squashed into each case; the nuts are flattish and angular. Horse ch. has a single round conker which looks like a bowling ball.
To open a sweet ch, stamp on it and collect the nuts from the ground. Trying to prise it open, even wearing gloves, can result in much pain ;)
Tantalus
25-09-2005, 23:25
sorry guys but some of the info in here is downright dangerous and irresponsible :(
Horse chestnuts ARE poisonous
please feel free to check this in any search engine you choose
Horse Chestnut = Aesculus hippocastanum
Toxins include Aesculin and Aescin
These toxins must be removed before any attempt to eat them is made
Tant
Bardster
25-09-2005, 23:45
sorry guys but some of the info in here is downright dangerous and irresponsible :(
Horse chestnuts ARE poisonous
please feel free to check this in any search engine you choose
Horse Chestnut = Aesculus hippocastanum
Toxins include Aesculin and Aescin
These toxins must be removed before any attempt to eat them is made
Tant
hehe like most thinks Tant, its all about the dosage....
A little is good for you it seems
http://www.holistic-online.com/Herbal-Med/_Herbs/h68.htm
Not my opinion you understand... I dont claim any knowledge whatsoever :)
Tantalus
26-09-2005, 00:29
sheesh the list of medicinal plants stretches a long way from belladonna and digitalis to opium and ergot
suit yourself mate but dont recommend them to anyone in a public forum open to kids and others liable to "give it a go, I read it on the internet"
Tant
bambodoggy
27-09-2005, 10:33
sheesh the list of medicinal plants stretches a long way from belladonna and digitalis to opium and ergot
suit yourself mate but dont recommend them to anyone in a public forum open to kids and others liable to "give it a go, I read it on the internet"
Tant
Tant, rather a lot of the info passed on this and other forums could be taken in the wrong way by people (and kids) reading it...all the fire lighting threads, the trapping/hunting threads etc all carry the risk of "give it a go, I read it on the internet".
I did state that the "conkers" had to be leached and roasted, which does kill off the toxins and renders them safe to eat.
I know they were used as famine foods and they are quite safe to eat then. Wood Sorel and other plants are also toxic in large quantities but you'll find people saying they are fine to eat. People talk about how nice the fungus commonly known as "Ink Caps", are to eat but few mention that they become quite highly toxic if eaten with alcohol.
I don't feel a need to freak about Horse Chestnuts and stand firmly by what I have said in my below posts. If you choose not to eat them then that's entirely up to you mate. A friendly clarification on the need to prepare them properly would have surficed rather than a scarey warning that they are poisonous but hey, no skin off my nose if nobody else in the world eats them....personally if I was living off the land then they would definately be part of my diet.
Cheers,
Bam. :)
With regards to the sweet chestnuts, my partner and i have just picked a good carrier bag full but, now i am a little concerned with how to store them. :) i think i remember reading somewhere that you can freeze them. does anyone know if this is correct? or would it be better to dry them and store in Kilner jars? :confused: