Multitool grinder attachment group buy ?

[rapidboy]

Folks im running a GB over on BritishBlades for the Snap-On, Blue-Point, Multitool grinder attachment's.
The seller had aprox 75 of them, so far we have taken about 60 on BB, the seller has to come back to me early next week to confirm exactly how many are left, i don't think there are very many, maybe 10 or 15.
Im just wondering if there is any interest in a small GB for BCUK members for what units are left after we finish the BB buy.

Price is £60 inc. UK mainland delivery

This is what you get

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/IMG_6453.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/IMG_6440.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/IMG_6442.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/IMG_6443.jpg

[rapidboy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUwEFERH3Iw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se-zZnD2DXY


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3qu4w6yfEE&feature=related

This is the snap-on / blue-point branded version we are getting with the serrated wheel but the one in the video comes from the factory mounted to a motor, the GB version is without a motor for mounting on a bench grinder.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6C6Mw3wxawA&feature=related

[luckylee]

Lawrence, this is torcher lol, i have stayed away from bb tonight because i cant wait for mine to come, and no i see it here lol.
hope all is well mate.
i can see the rest of them sailing out mate.
and thanks again for arranging the gb on bb.
take care
lee.

[rapidboy]

:lmao: yours is in the second lot so it will be going out tomorrow or Monday.

[luckylee]

:lmao: yours is in the second lot so it will be going out tomorrow or Monday.
cheer's bud, will get some sleep tonight now lol.

[eminen]

i would take one if available.

[chelks]

Looks good - I'll take one plse

[Whittler Kev]

So tempted

[luckylee]

So tempted
hi mate, its worth every penny.

[wasteoid]

Hi Rapid,

I will take one to please. I will confirm by PM.

Chris

[Bazzworx]

I'll take one too please, PM to follow

Cheers

[rapidboy]

Spoke to the seller today, only 10 left between BB and BCUK so it's first come first served

1. eminen
2. chelks
3. wasteoid - PAID
4. Bazzworx - PAID

[rapidboy]

There is also a group buy for the abrasive belts happening over on BB

[craeg]

Yes Please :D

Does it fit to any bench grinder?

[rapidboy]

The Youtube clip above says it will fit any bench grinder and it comes with a pack of collets and fixings.
A few people have had some minor fitting to do, i have tried mine on 2 different grinders and it went straight on using the supplied fitting kit.
One guy on the BB buy said he couldn't get his to fit but his wasn't from this buy so i don't know what fitting kit was supplied and i don't know what grinder he was trying to mount it on.
Some of the guys on BB have them running already, a couple are buying 2 and mounting one on each side of the grinder.

1. eminen
2. chelks
3. wasteoid - PAID
4. Bazzworx - PAID
5. craeg

[rapidboy]

:cool:

http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww136/parbajtor/19052011001-1.jpg

http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww136/parbajtor/19052011.jpg

[Whittler Kev]

Bit the bullet

1. eminen
2. chelks
3. wasteoid - PAID
4. Bazzworx - PAID
5. craeg
6. Whittler Kev

[rapidboy]

Had a PM asking about the belt group buy over on BB, no need to panic if your not a member just PM me and i will forward your details.

[rapidboy]

1. eminen - PAID
2. chelks
3. wasteoid - PAID
4. Bazzworx - PAID
5. craeg
6. Whittler Kev - PAID

[MartinB]

1. eminen - PAID
2. chelks
3. wasteoid - PAID
4. Bazzworx - PAID
5. craeg
6. Whittler Kev - PAID[/QUOTE]
7 MartinB

I wil take one if available and if i can pay by cheque - i would also like to purchase spare belts if there is a similar group buy - i am not a member of BB but have included my name in list - hope this is OK - Martin

[rapidboy]

I wil take one if available and if i can pay by cheque - i would also like to purchase spare belts if there is a similar group buy - i am not a member of BB but have included my name in list - hope this is OK - Martin

Hi Martin, Cheque won't work, it wouldn't have time to get here and clear before the last lot have to be paid for.
If you can send cash by RMSD on Monday it would be here Tuesday for me to collect Wednesday, that's about as late as i can leave the last order as i have to pay for them in full before the seller sends them out.
Or maybe ask someone on the forum for help with PayPal ?
The belts are a different group buy by Davidh, £18 per pack (10 Zirconium belts, 2 off 60, 80, 120, 240 and 320 grits in each pack), you can pay me for attachment and belts and i can PayPal Davidh for the belts if that makes life easier.
You can have as many packs of belts as you want but there are only a couple of attachments left.
No need to be a BB member and anybody who wants belts and is not a BB member drop me a PM and i will sort them out.

[rapidboy]

sorted :)

1. eminen - PAID
2. chelks
3. wasteoid - PAID
4. Bazzworx - PAID
5. craeg
6. Whittler Kev - PAID
7. MartinB - PAID

[craeg]

1. eminen - PAID
2. chelks
3. wasteoid - PAID
4. Bazzworx - PAID
5. craeg - PAID
6. Whittler Kev - PAID
7. MartinB - PAID

[rapidboy]

1. eminen - PAID
2. chelks - PAID
3. wasteoid - PAID
4. Bazzworx - PAID
5. craeg - PAID
6. Whittler Kev - PAID
7. MartinB - PAID

[rapidboy]

I tried mine last night on a grinder i had sitting the shed unused.
Clarke, 375W, 8", (just checked and these are £72 + delivery from Machinemart :(, don't waste your money)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/d7cb02fb.jpg

Fitting was very easy
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/bce47379.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/c4ccf14e.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/fa6c3d27.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/e40442c5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/ae3f25e9.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/19bed596.jpg

Stick a belt on and it's good to go, start to finish 15 minutes and that included taking pics and clamping the grinder to the bench, no drama at all :D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/81d23f62.jpg

First run, belt ran true but there was something wrong as you can see from the stuff vibrating about the bench.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALZQsoHinMc

The wire brush was obviously to blame as it was rubbing against the guard so I removed that and it's much better, tracking is spot on and the tension arm / lock work very well for changing belts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTxdH_KJd9Q

Grinding is ok, you could make a wee knife on it no problem especially if you did most of the roughing out with a hacksaw and angle grinder and used this for the bevels and final shaping but load it up and the motor stops , 350W is not doing the attachment justice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=577qX8YwQco&feature=channel_video_title

It works but you would need to take your time.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/38da5965.jpg

The attachment it much better quality than this bench grinder, the ideal set up for me would be to mount it to a 1.5HP motor.
The bench grinder here is just poor quality, removing the wire brush helped but the shaft is far from true and that puts a wee wobble into the attachment, not really enough to be a problem but it's just not as good as i want.
A decent wee motor would run true, all day long and with much more power.
Im working on a little adaptor plate at the minute that will allow the attachment to be mounted onto a standard motor.

[rapidboy]

1. eminen - PAID
2. chelks - PAID
3. wasteoid - PAID
4. Bazzworx - PAID
5. craeg - PAID
6. Whittler Kev - PAID
7. MartinB - PAID
8.Kerne - PAID

Ok folks that is all the attachments spoken for, there is a chance there might be 2 or 3 more when we are finished but for now the group buy is closed

[Neumo]

Damn, I am recovering from a bout of food poisining anmd have only just seen these. Please put me down for one if any spares come up

[rapidboy]

No worries i will put your name down and give you first refusal if he has any left, originall the seller said he had 75 and then he said stop the list at 70 so hopefully there will be a couple more, i want another myself just to break for parts for another grinder build.

1. eminen - PAID
2. chelks - PAID
3. wasteoid - PAID
4. Bazzworx - PAID
5. craeg - PAID
6. Whittler Kev - PAID
7. MartinB - PAID
8.Kerne - PAID

9. Neumo

[Neumo]

Cheers, I will keep an eye on this one

[eminen]

any word as to when we will receive these?

[rapidboy]

Yes they should be ready to send out tomorrow if all goes to plan, a little sooner than expected but the first and second lot went out fairly quickly and the seller is heading away for a few days holiday so we are trying to get them away this week rather than end of next week as originally planned.

[eminen]

did anything get posted?

[craeg]

Any news on the multi-tool?

[rapidboy]

Just to keep the thread up to date, the seller delivered the final lot of attachments to the courier on Friday, they will reopen tomorrow so expect delivery Wednesday / Thursday all being well.

[chelks]

Arrived this morning - MANY THANKS for running the GB.

[craeg]

Just arrived fellas and all I need now is a bench new bench grinder :D Anyone got a good powerful one to sell or trade or recommend where to get one.

Thanks for sorting the group buy dude.

ATB
Craeg

[luckylee]

Just arrived fellas and all I need now is a bench new bench grinder :D Anyone got a good powerful one to sell or trade or recommend where to get one.

Thanks for sorting the group buy dude.

ATB
Craeg
hi mate, speak to rapidboy, he is putting something together for this.
I'm in the same boat, but it will probably be worth the wait.

[eminen]

just arrived thanks to rapidboy for all his work :) and i also might be interested in new grinder if something comes about.

[Bazzworx]

Mine came today. Many thanks for sorting this out rapidboy. Looks like I'm in the workshop tonight :D

[Kerne]

Mine didn't come today! I was out and it was taken back to the depot. Got to wait until tomorrow - counting the hours...

[Whittler Kev]

SWMBO accepted mine today. Cheers for organising it. Keep us informed about the grinder GB please

[rapidboy]

Good they are starting to arrive, the belts are due to arrive tomorrow for the belt group buy so it will be a hectic few days getting those away and as soon as we have that out of the way we will be sorting a motor for these.

[luckylee]

Good they are starting to arrive, the belts are due to arrive tomorrow for the belt group buy so it will be a hectic few days getting those away and as soon as we have that out of the way we will be sorting a motor for these.
as you no mate, if you could pop me down on the list for the motor please, that would be great.

[wasteoid]

Hi rapid mate,

Grinder arrived today. Well chuffed with it. If a deal comes up for grinders could interested. I have something but it is far from ideal

Chris

[rapidboy]

The belts are here and David is getting them packed up tonight to go out tomorrow, we tested them today and they run nice and smooth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YooKHfvIC5o&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

That's a 60 followed by a 120 and then a 320, the belt changes are very quick and easy as you can see.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekiolBQQ8Ek

We are waiting on a sample laser cut adaptor plate to arrive and have a motor sorted, i will get a video up asap.

[Kerne]

YAY!

Got back from the Bushcraft Show to find it waiting for me...thanks a lot for organising this!

[rapidboy]

If anybody ordered belts in the group buy, i just heard from David and they all went out yesterday, there are 4 sets left if anybody wants any more.

[rapidboy]

We are waiting on the adaptor plate sample to arrive to try the new motor but tonight we knocked up a wee extension to try running longer belts.
My radiusmaster runs 1220mm (48") belts as will the new machine I'm building so it would be nice to keep them standard.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_y2Js66cAA

Needs a wee tweak and a lick of paint but it works fine :)

[wasteoid]

Deep joy. I just mounted my multi tool up on my old aldi grinder, and even on the under powered grinder it is fantastic!!!!!

Thanks rapid for sorting this one out. Let me know if and when a motor comes along I am well interested.

Chris

[Neumo]

Mine turned up yesterday, as I had the last spare one. I am off to my favorite secondhand tool shop to look for a grinder or motor to run this one. Probably wont buy today as I fancy haveing a decent motor on it & need to research it more, get my mate to do some metal work for me etc..

[rapidboy]

Keep an eye on the BB thread, we are working on adapting them to run on a motor and hopefully will be organising a group buy for the adaptor kt and motors soon.


There is a motor conversion...in progress. There are a few things require adjustment...the second one is always the better. I have went for a vertical because this is what I am used to.


http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.hull35/Other%20Images/adapter%20plate%20assembled.jp g

Motor has a standard B14 flange and foot mount. 1 hp continious rated. This is a 3 phase and is getting an inverter drive.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.hull35/Other%20Images/adapter%20plate%20motor.jpg

The plate, extra holes were for trial. 6mm steel. So this will work the other way too, turned down 90 degrees.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.hull35/Other%20Images/adapter%20plate.jpg

Mounted with countersink cap heads. M6 x 12mm
It requires drilling four 6mm holes into the Bluepoint attachment.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.hull35/Other%20Images/adapter%20plate%20mounted.jpg

Simple modification to the table. Plastic shim washers because the angle iron is less than 6mm.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.hull35/Other%20Images/adapter%20plate%20table.jpg

Angle adjustment arrangement.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.hull35/Other%20Images/adapter%20plate%20links.jpg
Shaft is 19mm, a bit of sorting still required at this end.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.hull35/Other%20Images/adapter%20plate%20shaft.jpg



So David got everything together today, we gave it a wee test run tonight and it all works as it should.
As mentioned previously this is the all singing all dancing version with an inverter for speed control, we wanted to start with this one so we could see what speed would be best for the single speed version.
Only a quick and rough video to show it working, hopefully we will get a better look at it tomorrow night and a video of it in use.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFrQe6dLy6Q

[Neumo]

Great news, I will hop over to BB to look for their conversion thread. Thaks for the update

[rapidboy]

350W benchgrinder V's 1HP motor :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_WAsDVo1Ec&feature=channel_video_title

Running at approx 2800rpm, then turned down to approx 1400rpm and then approx 300rpm.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2oJlvkGh-Y&feature=channel_video_title

A big advantage over the bench grinder is the motor is rated for continuous use.

[Hugo]

That motor is impressive, that attachment is a great tool, pity I missed out on buying one, can't find one in the UK at all.

[rapidboy]

I have another grinder project part built so i just removed the motor from that to show the differences between B5 and B14 flange.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/grinder%20attachment%20project/IMG_1205.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/grinder%20attachment%20project/IMG_1208.jpg

[rapidboy]

I had ordered a motor and inverter from the supplier just to test him out and they arrived today, very well packed and much quicker than i expected so that's all looking good, just waiting for him to come back to me about single phase motors.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/grinder%20attachment%20project/IMG_1192.jpg

The inverter is the same as the one David is running for his machine.
Unlike some inverters that have a cooling fan and a LCD screen to access setup menu's (and a big instruction manual to go with it) these wee units have a simple heat sink along with a few DIP switches and pots which keeps everything fairly simple and hopefully reliable.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/grinder%20attachment%20project/IMG_1194.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/grinder%20attachment%20project/IMG_1195.jpg

[rapidboy]

David has the grinder adapter kits ready to go.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/grinder%20attachment%20fitting %20kit/davidspics237.jpg

This is what you get
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/grinder%20attachment%20fitting %20kit/davidspics246.jpg

we spent a couple of hours today documenting what to do with it .....

Start by removing the mounting bracket from the attachment and then remove the centre plate.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/grinder%20attachment%20fitting %20kit/davidspics247.jpg

You need the adapter plate, mounting bracket and a couple of clamps
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/grinder%20attachment%20fitting %20kit/davidspics248.jpg

Align them as shown
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/grinder%20attachment%20fitting %20kit/davidspics249.jpg

Clamp them together making sure the 3 points indicated are flush
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/grinder%20attachment%20fitting %20kit/davidspics250.jpg

like this
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/grinder%20attachment%20fitting %20kit/davidspics251.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/grinder%20attachment%20fitting %20kit/davidspics252.jpg

now drill through the four holes as indicated
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/grinder%20attachment%20fitting %20kit/davidspics253.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/grinder%20attachment%20fitting %20kit/davidspics254.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/grinder%20attachment%20fitting %20kit/davidspics255.jpg

and you should end up with this
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/grinder%20attachment%20fitting %20kit/davidspics256.jpg

we now turn our attention to the motor, it has a B14 face
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/grinder%20attachment%20fitting %20kit/davidspics257.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/grinder%20attachment%20fitting %20kit/davidspics258.jpg

we are not using the key to drive but to keep the rotor balanced we need to use a half key so start by scribing down each side of the key
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/grinder%20attachment%20fitting %20kit/davidspics259.jpg

then remove the key and file it down to the line, also give the side a couple of strokes with the file so that it's a loose fit in the shaft
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/grinder%20attachment%20fitting %20kit/davidspics260.jpg

now we can bolt the adapter plate to the motor using the countersunk M6 machine screws
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/grinder%20attachment%20fitting %20kit/davidspics261.jpg

it's important the half key is lower than the shaft, this is still too high
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/grinder%20attachment%20fitting %20kit/davidspics262.jpg

perfect so we can slip the spacer into place
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/grinder%20attachment%20fitting %20kit/davidspics264.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/grinder%20attachment%20fitting %20kit/davidspics265.jpg

[rapidboy]

at this stage it's handy to clamp the motor to the bench
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/grinder%20attachment%20fitting %20kit/davidspics276.jpg

the next stage is to mount the mounting bracket to the adapter plate
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/grinder%20attachment%20fitting %20kit/davidspics277.jpg

but we have left it out here so you can see whats happening

the drive pulley assembly is fitted with a 5/8 plastic bush, we need to remove this
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/grinder%20attachment%20fitting %20kit/davidspics266.jpg

something like a socket is ideal
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/grinder%20attachment%20fitting %20kit/davidspics267.jpg

slip the 0.03mm shim into place
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/grinder%20attachment%20fitting %20kit/davidspics268.jpg

from the other side hold it in position
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/grinder%20attachment%20fitting %20kit/davidspics269.jpg

carefully slide the drive pulley assembly onto the shaft
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/grinder%20attachment%20fitting %20kit/davidspics270.jpg

just let it slip on at it's own pace, don't force it
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/grinder%20attachment%20fitting %20kit/davidspics271.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/grinder%20attachment%20fitting %20kit/davidspics272.jpg

adding some heat will help

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTtlU5WDiM4

once in place fasten using the washer and M6 bolt, a drop of loctite here would be good
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/grinder%20attachment%20fitting %20kit/davidspics278.jpg

next bolt the tensioner into place
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/grinder%20attachment%20fitting %20kit/davidspics279.jpg

you can see here we need to move the motor feet to move the terminal box out of the way to access the tracking adjustment
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/grinder%20attachment%20fitting %20kit/davidspics280.jpg

the motor has mountings on each side to allow this
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/grinder%20attachment%20fitting %20kit/davidspics281.jpg

next we mount the work rest to the adapter plate
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/grinder%20attachment%20fitting %20kit/davidspics284.jpg

and the angle iron to a suitable plate, in this case we used the mitre table because it was not being used
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/grinder%20attachment%20fitting %20kit/davidspics283.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/grinder%20attachment%20fitting %20kit/davidspics285.jpg

put on a belt and turn it over by hand to make sure the tracking is ok and your good to go.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/grinder%20attachment%20fitting %20kit/davidspics286.jpg

The adapter kit GB is running now, cost is £40 delivered to uk

[rapidboy]

So nobody asked about the little hook on the front or the square lug with the two holes on the back of the adapter plate :rolleyes:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/grinder%20attachment%20fitting %20kit/davidspics261.jpg

:lol:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/grinder%20attachment%20fitting %20kit/IMG_1267.jpg

The little lug on the back was included in the design of the adapter plate so that we could work up an extension plate later - we had a wee play around with that idea tonight.

So changing from 3' belt to the 5' belt that David uses takes a matter of seconds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0nUQahImbk&feature=player_profilepage

and a 4' belt that i use on my radiusmaster

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OWm-xC8aRY&feature=player_profilepage

It works, we just need to work up the design a bit more.

You won't do this with the attachment mounted to a bench grinder :]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_6BKDW7CNM&feature=player_profilepage

I need to get mine wired up and running properly, David is already using his in anger.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/grinder%20attachment%20fitting %20kit/IMG_1276.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/grinder%20attachment%20fitting %20kit/IMG_1274.jpg

If anybody wants an adapter kit drop me a PM and i will add your name to the list over on BB, the kit is only going to be available once because we have to make a minimum order up for the laser cutting.

[rapidboy]

If anybody is looking for a motor for these i have organized a group buy, PM me for details