Why are polls only availible to full members?

[unorthadox]

Hi, i was wondering why creating polls are only availible to full members, there have been a few times i would like to create a poll.

I can understand some features such as the rights to trade requireing a membership but im not sure why a poll would need one

[resnikov]

Think its to stop random spam, not saying you would but you do get accounts that join and create large amounts of spam until they are banned.

I may be completely off the mark its just a wild guess.

[unorthadox]

Think its to stop random spam, not saying you would but you do get accounts that join and create large amounts of spam until they are banned.

I may be completely off the mark its just a wild guess.
I dont think that wud be the case, from what ive herd you need to make 8 thread replies or sumthing before you can send PMs, they wud probly use a similar approach to polls

[bushwacker bob]

Its cos if you ain't prepared to support the site, your opinion doesn't count.

At least thats what everyone says when they ignore me.:sadwavey:

[unorthadox]

Its cos if you ain't prepared to support the site, your opinion doesn't count.

At least thats what everyone says when they ignore me.:sadwavey:

There are more ways to support the site than just through finance. We can still vote in polls so actually it's quite the opposite, our opinion does count.
I'm sure there will be a legitimate reason behind the scenes, I just want to know what it is :dunno:

[Toddy]

Spam.
We get hit every so often and it's a pain to deal with.

Polls that aren't set up properly are another pain; i.e. have an end time built in :rolleyes: get your spelling correct in the title, sort out the questions in a balanced way rather than with built in bias.

It's one of the permissions of established folks, with a good sense of the tone of the forum. Too many polls, all asking the same question, have folks looking for the, "Do a Search!" button, in sheer frustration.

Very few people pay up for Full Membership right off, and that gives them a chance to settle in, so to speak. Not everyone takes on board that the forum guidelines clearly ask for family friendly posts, and no political or religious discussion. Those topics are as bad as spam to deal with :sigh:

And after all that, for which topics did you wish to set up a poll ? Was there a specific question you wished answered ?

cheers,
Toddy

[ashes1627]

Very few people pay up for Full Membership right off, and that gives them a chance to settle in, so to speak.


I paid for full membership within a week of joining :rolleyes:

Edit: Just checked, I paid for full membership after being here for 2 days!

[dave53]

well put toddy regards dave

[Toddy]

I paid for full membership within a week of joining :rolleyes:

Edit: Just checked, I paid for full membership after being here for 2 days!

Yep :) and as I said, it's unusual. Not unwelcome, just not so common :)

cheers,
M

[unorthadox]

Spam.
We get hit every so often and it's a pain to deal with.

Polls that aren't set up properly are another pain; i.e. have an end time built in :rolleyes: get your spelling correct in the title, sort out the questions in a balanced way rather than with built in bias.

It's one of the permissions of established folks, with a good sense of the tone of the forum. Too many polls, all asking the same question, have folks looking for the, "Do a Search!" button, in sheer frustration.

Very few people pay up for Full Membership right off, and that gives them a chance to settle in, so to speak. Not everyone takes on board that the forum guidelines clearly ask for family friendly posts, and no political or religious discussion. Those topics are as bad as spam to deal with :sigh:

And after all that, for which topics did you wish to set up a poll ? Was there a specific question you wished answered ?

cheers,
Toddy
There have been no major occasions, the most recent occasion I can remember wanting to set up a poll was to get a vote on what people want as a group buy and a list of popular products as options; crusader cups, mora knives, laplander etc.

I thought a poll like this would be good to try and establish group buys in the future that are likely to have high numbers.

[Toddy]

Ah, then might I draw your attention to these ? :)


http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/poll.php?pollid=292&do=showresults

http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58515&daysprune=365

and fifty group buys alone this past year
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=37&pp=20&sort=lastpost&order=desc&daysprune=365

Not trying to be discouraging, but we do get thoroughly fed up of polls at times. They aren't the only way to canvas opinion, and unless well thought out they can really just be too biased.

cheers,
Toddy

[unorthadox]

Ah, then might I draw your attention to these ? :)


http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/poll.php?pollid=292&do=showresults

http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58515&daysprune=365

and fifty group buys alone this past year
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=37&pp=20&sort=lastpost&order=desc&daysprune=365

Not trying to be discouraging, but we do get thoroughly fed up of polls at times. They aren't the only way to canvas opinion, and unless well thought out they can really just be too biased.

cheers,
Toddy

Thanks for the links :)

I can see the dialemna, I just like the idea of polls cos of my preference to mathmatical subjects and to help keep the replies on topic, threads seem to often go off on a tangent for a good few dozen posts :D

[Tony]

Just to add to this, when an individual creates a poll he/she just worries about that one, with no control we end up dealing with loads of them running at the same time and you've got the situation that Toddy describes above which at times has been a nightmare. It used to be that everyone could create polls but we changed it.

Not sure if bushwacker bb is being serious or not but I hope that just polls are not a reflection of ones ability to express an opinion?

It's easier to justify the time involved having just the FM's being able to use Polls or have a number of other benefits as FM's as they do help support the site, the time and resources used to support a site like this as fairly substantial and so there's a natural inclination to think consider them and allow them to do more.

[unorthadox]

Just to add to this, when an individual creates a poll he/she just worries about that one, with no control we end up dealing with loads of them running at the same time and you've got the situation that Toddy describes above which at times has been a nightmare. It used to be that everyone could create polls but we changed it.

Not sure if bushwacker bb is being serious or not but I hope that just polls are not a reflection of ones ability to express an opinion?

It's easier to justify the time involved having just the FM's being able to use Polls or have a number of other benefits as FM's as they do help support the site, the time and resources used to support a site like this as fairly substantial and so there's a natural inclination to think consider them and allow them to do more.


Well put, I think ill have to start saving up for the FM :)

[bushwacker bob]

Not sure if bushwacker bb is being serious or not but I hope that just polls are not a reflection of ones ability to express an opinion?


I'm rarely serious Tony, often facetious, rude or sarcastic but certainly not serious about polls.

[rik_uk3]

Thanks for the links :)

I can see the dialemna, I just like the idea of polls cos of my preference to mathmatical subjects and to help keep the replies on topic, threads seem to often go off on a tangent for a good few dozen posts :D

Polls are never inclusive enough, you can never please everyone so most of the times polls are junk really and never a true reflection, often just a poor indicator.

Stick to questions and cherry pick the data you need.

[Toddy]

Well put, I think ill have to start saving up for the FM :)

I reckon it's the cost of a book and I get a lot more out of it over the year :approve:

cheers,
Toddy

[lab72]

I reckon it's the cost of a book and I get a lot more out of it over the year :approve:

cheers,
Toddy

compleatly agree with that !!!

[Tony]

I'm rarely serious Tony, often facetious, rude or sarcastic but certainly not serious about polls.

As I thought :D :lmao:

[unorthadox]

Polls are never inclusive enough, you can never please everyone so most of the times polls are junk really and never a true reflection, often just a poor indicator.

Stick to questions and cherry pick the data you need.

Thats the beauty of the 'other' or 'NA' option.. and hte thread comments :)

[unorthadox]

I reckon it's the cost of a book and I get a lot more out of it over the year :approve:

cheers,
Toddy

I know, but im a student, now with almost no hours at work, with a load of bills still to pay, im currently living on pasta to keep the costs down

[Toddy]

I wasn't nagging, just giving my reasoning :D

You have my sympathy on the pasta, not much of a fan of the stuff tbh.
Seriously, potato is better for you than pasta. It's one of the few things that you can survive on without much else if in dire need.
http://www.potato2008.org/en/potato/factsheets.html

Hopefully this state of affairs won't last for long for you :cool:

cheers,
Toddy

[unorthadox]

well i got some unexpected money through uni this week so i have subscribed to full membership finally :)

the rest of it is going to my funds for Bosnia later this year :)