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How many of you like to carry your Woodlore knfe around your neck in the field? I have a knife very similar in size to a Woodlore and I find it way too heavy for neck carry. I do like neck carry though, but prefer lighter knives for it, like a Mora puukko or something similar.
For EDC, I carry a Benchmade Tether under my shirt. It's a good little knife and not heavy enough to be annoying and it's always there.
Celtic Dragon
06-01-2004, 15:53
I to can see the Woodlore being to heavy as a neck carry. I have a 8" drop point hunter which I prefer to carry as a cross body fixing, ie the strap is over my right shoulder and the knife below my left armpit.
Simon
I to can see the Woodlore being to heavy as a neck carry. I have a 8" drop point hunter which I prefer to carry as a cross body fixing, ie the strap is over my right shoulder and the knife below my left armpit.
Simon
I thought when everyonbe refered to neck carry, that's what they meant?
Celtic Dragon
06-01-2004, 18:09
I've seen some neck sheaths, that just hang round the neck.
Simon
yeah, for the little biddy american neck carry things, but in reference to the neck carry sheaths and the woodlore, I thought everyone was slinging em cross-shoulder, baldric style, as Gary puts it.
Interesting way to carry a knife. I'll have to try it. Another possibility is to use a wide strap to distribute the wt more evenly on the neck, like a bino strap. On problem I frequently have is that a lot of the time when I'm in the field I have binos around the neck and a knife just adds to the weight and gets in the way. Carrying it to the side though might solve that problem.
I think the folks who are carrying it this way Hoodoo (tip down, in a baldric), are comming up with some marvelous macrame knotwoork bandanna's made from paracord. I think the idea is that if you really, really needed the cord in a pinch, you've about 30 metres of the stuff in yer baldric sling.
gurushaun
06-01-2004, 23:41
Anyone got a link to the Macrame knots used?
Cheers
Shaun
I think it's just facy plaiting of your own invention. :)
The 'armpit carry' may not be new. I vaguely remember a reference to Scots Highlanders carrying a dagger ('sgian ochles') in a similar fashion in the 18th Century
Goes back further than that Doc, Ancient britons would wear a utility knife around there neck or slung elsewhere as that they could keep their belts free for weapons.
Native americans and later mountian men would wear their scalping or patch knives like wise hung. Incidently the woodlore neck sheath is actually the same sheath design as the mountian man would were on his belt - in the laters case his belt passed over the sheath locking the blade in tight so an enemy couldnt draw it.
Anyone got a link to the Macrame knots used?
Cheers
Shaun
I don't know if this is what they use but I've found this site useful for a few different braids.
Gimp Link (http://www.cam.com/gimp/)
Hope it helps.
Powderburn
07-01-2004, 19:02
Gator recently posted this link on another forum. It has nicer illustrations than the GIMP link Stew posted. (Still a nice site, Stew, and I have it bookmarked.)
Boondoggle Man (http://www.boondoggleman.com/)
These braids require two or more individual lengths of cord, though. Ideally, you'd do one out of one long piece, but I'm still searching for links other than The Slatts Rescue Belt knot (http://www.slatts.fsworld.co.uk/slatts-knot.htm).
(Still a nice site, Stew, and I have it bookmarked.)
Hey, no worries.
:-)
I think I prefer Boondoggle now - Photos are so much nicer and easier to follow!
One of the things that I don't like about Gimp Link is that the drawings aren't very clear as to what the end result would be like so you have to mak it then realise it's not what you were after.
Do you carry all your knives around theck/armpit ot is it only woodlore knife that you carry this way. I´ve started to carry my knives this way and I like it more and more.
Powderburn
07-01-2004, 20:04
Stew, I found out last night that even with clear color photographs on the Boondoggle site to guide me, I still eneded up with something other than I originally planned. My intention was to tie a "Square Stitch" but it turned out to be a "Round Stitch." :roll: I must admit that the results were pretty good for my first try, though.
Stew, I found out last night that even with clear color photographs on the Boondoggle site to guide me, I still eneded up with something other than I originally planned. My intention was to tie a "Square Stitch" but it turned out to be a "Round Stitch." :roll: I must admit that the results were pretty good for my first try, though.
:-D It's easily done! Basically, for the round stitch you do the same sequence each time but for the square stitch you have to fold each strand of the cord (or boondoggle, gimp, etc) back over itself.
It's easier if you're using 2 colours of cord because then you can see how the pattern is developing without too much effort and straining of the eyes.
Powderburn
07-01-2004, 21:23
I was using two colors of cord! :o): Once I realized the mistake, I just kept going till done instead of tearing it apart. Here's a tip: don't do this stuff with long lengths of thin cordage like mason's twine. I was up much later than planned trying to finish.
Oi, use nettle cordage :rant: :nono: ...not that I do :rolmao:
Oi, use nettle cordage ...and dye half of it a different colour! :-P
bushblade
07-01-2004, 22:00
Anyone got a link to the Macrame knots used?
Cheers
Shaun
Faca is your man for this.
The way he showed me is basicaly tying reef knots over 2 central 'filler' cords, allthough you could easily use more than 2. You can make some nice patterns and carry a lot of cordage in a neat, useable package.
Oh this might help http://www.knotingwork.com/
The way he showed me is basicaly tying reef knots over 2 central 'filler' cords, allthough you could easily use more than 2. You can make some nice patterns and carry a lot of cordage in a neat, useable package.
Is it the Cobra Stitch?
(http://www.boondoggleman.com/prj_cobra_stitch.htm)
It sounds like it. I like this style. It's attractive and one of the quicker ones to do.
bushblade
07-01-2004, 22:34
The way he showed me is basicaly tying reef knots over 2 central 'filler' cords, allthough you could easily use more than 2. You can make some nice patterns and carry a lot of cordage in a neat, useable package.
Is it the Cobra Stitch?
(http://www.boondoggleman.com/prj_cobra_stitch.htm)
It sounds like it. I like this style. It's attractive and one of the quicker ones to do.
yep thats the one 8-)
Stew, there's a photo sequence showing how to make a lanyard using this square stitch on some martial arts web site. My wife watched me struggle for a bit, then got my daughter to do it for me. Apparently these string games are part of junior school playground culture for girls. Well how was I supposed to know ....? :-D
Powderburn
08-01-2004, 01:14
How to tie a square sinnet lanyard (pics included) (http://www.candlepowerforums.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB22&Number=427082&page=1&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1)
bushblade
08-01-2004, 11:10
How to tie a square sinnet lanyard (pics included) (http://www.candlepowerforums.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB22&Number=427082&page=1&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1)
I don't think that one would be too comfortable, in neck/shoulder carry, especialy with a pack over the top :shock:
Bushblade has touched on something that's been bothering me. If wearing a rucsac (or webbing) doesn't the neck/armpit carried knife get caught under the straps and end up both uncomfortable and inaccessible? I can see hanging just from the neck might work, but not with a heavy knife (or a webbing chest rig).
I usually end up with the knife on my belt (no good with web gear or a weight-bearing rucsac hipbelt over the top), in a leg pocket (can get in the way when I kneel down) or most often on the webbing or in my rucsac (inaccessible and could get lost in a crisis).
Any ideas?
Ted W
If you carry your knife in the neck/armpit/baldric style, then your lanyard is long enough to simply tie the knife around your waist when wearing your pack.
:-)
Ed
Bushblade has touched on something that's been bothering me. If wearing a rucsac (or webbing) doesn't the neck/armpit carried knife get caught under the straps and end up both uncomfortable and inaccessible? I can see hanging just from the neck might work, but not with a heavy knife (or a webbing chest rig).
I usually end up with the knife on my belt (no good with web gear or a weight-bearing rucsac hipbelt over the top), in a leg pocket (can get in the way when I kneel down) or most often on the webbing or in my rucsac (inaccessible and could get lost in a crisis).
Any ideas?
Ted W
If you got large sidepockets on your pants you can put in your side pocket and then have a piece of paracord tied between your knife and your beltloop. Another way to get your knife below your hipbelt/webbing is to use a carbinehook and hook it in to your beltloop and to you knife and in that way get the below the hipbelt/webbing.
Personally I prefer carry my knife in the armpit, it never a problem for me.
Firstly, my knot terminology is not too hot so apologies if I'm using the wrong terms. On the sheath on my Woodlore I have spliced the two loose ends of the cord in order that I can shorten and lengthen the loop, thus it can either be worn short around the neck, or lengthened to accomodate wearing it across the shoulder. I find it works quite well and can easily be adjusted to suit what I'm wearing and whether I'm carrying a backpack.
bushblade
08-01-2004, 14:55
Bushblade has touched on something that's been bothering me. If wearing a rucsac (or webbing) doesn't the neck/armpit carried knife get caught under the straps and end up both uncomfortable and inaccessible? I can see hanging just from the neck might work, but not with a heavy knife (or a webbing chest rig).
I usually end up with the knife on my belt (no good with web gear or a weight-bearing rucsac hipbelt over the top), in a leg pocket (can get in the way when I kneel down) or most often on the webbing or in my rucsac (inaccessible and could get lost in a crisis).
Any ideas?
Ted W
I ment just that type of braid would be uncomfortable with a pack over the top as its square, the outher braids are flat.
When carrying your knife like this keep the cord loose or adjustable and wear it under your outer layer. Without a pack on it naturaly hangs under your armpit and your outer layer keeps it in place. With a pack, slide the knife up to your chest, put the pack on and tighten up the straps as usual. The straps stop it from slipping under your armpit. Done right its very comfortable. To access the knife unzip your jacket reach in and there should be enough cord length to lift the sheath just out of your jacket, then draw your knife. I would not advise drawing the knife while inside your clothing :wink:
Hope this helps
MartiniDave
08-01-2004, 15:22
I usually wear either a Barbour jacket or an army surlus cammo jacket, both of which have zipped map/document pockets. I simple have the knife looped round my neck and tucked into this pocket to keep it out of the way.
Just have to remember to take it out of the pocket before you take the coat off.
Dave
Thanks, chaps, I'll experiment with the baldrick-style until I cunningly get it comfortable! :lol:
Ted W