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peasantchurl
03-10-2010, 15:11
I need a goretex mid-thigh length jacket anyone know a good one suitable for mountain walking in scotland during winter, non camo, prefer a solid colour olive / green.
Price under £100 ish
Thanks
bushcraftbob
03-10-2010, 21:02
I bought a Berghaus sullivan from Go outdoors, it was £99 down from £200. It is almost identical to an older Berghaus that i had which has just given up the ghost. Have had a few jackets over the last 18 months and this knocks socks off all of em.
Dougster
03-10-2010, 21:20
Look at eVent. Rab Bergen is one. I have a Montane Superfly XT and they are superb.
Ooops - blew the budget a bit.
Pepperana
03-10-2010, 21:55
I have a Austrian Army Surplus M65 Goretex. I am happy with it and it has a really good price!
http://cgi.ebay.nl/AUSTRIAN-GORETEX-M65-COMBAT-JACKET-SIZE-88-92-/180459542349?pt=UK_Collectable s_Militaria_LE&hash=item2a043a174d
gordonmac
04-10-2010, 10:11
I live in the N E Highlands of Scotland and normally wear a Haglöfs Lim Ultimate Jacket, it uses Gore-Tex Paclite. I've never felt the need for anything more than this when used as a protective layer worn over the top of a decent base layer, a 100 Polartec fleece and a good mid layer, my mid layer is normally some sort of lightweight softshell.
Anything more than this is simply just too hot (for me anyway)! Of course, you won't go wrong by taking a light down jacket to wear underneath the shell when you're sitting around for a while.
A few suggestions from my own experiences.
Dutch Army surplus "goretex" (not actually branded goretex but a goretex clone) DPM jacket at 40-70 pounds depending on condition. Excellent but quite heavy and you have to like wearing DPM, and you don't. I used to have one and my only gripe was the cotton-type hood lining. Very nice to start with until it gets wet then it stays that way for days.
Apart from that you will be on quite basic jacket designs for 100 pounds new, unless you find an absolute bargain in the sales as above. An entry level goretex jacket full price would be the Berghaus Paclite jacket at about £100. Not really a winter jacket.
Doubling the budget you get to a Mountain Equipment Ogre, which most reviewers agree is the business for all year round, fairly light and there is a grey version. If walking for several days you would appreciate the lightness of the Ogre in your pack. I have one.
Add another hundred and you get a Norrona Recon, heavy and bulky but superb quality and tough and green of course...I also have one of these but usually reach for the Ogre.
If you step outside goretex you will find cheaper jackets, such as the Montane Atomic. This is made of good old Entrant, been around since the 80s, which is ok up to a point but probably won't be a reliable as goretex. Another option is Event, more breathable than goretex, almost as waterproof and slightly cheaper. Rab do some Event jackets.
NS
well i thought i would put my two penneth in, i unfortunatly agree with Nonsuch, for a oner you'll only get a very basic goretex jacket / coat unless you strike lucky somewhere.
personally i used to use ex military kit, but although cheaper it is usually issued kit, even if it is grade one. i would say save a few pennies and ask father christmas nicely if he would contribute towards a more expensive one. i have had a SWAZI TAHR anorak for a year or two now and is the best investment i ever made, it wasn't cheap mind and i got mine before the exchange rate went sideways, but it is the only 3/4 length ''waterproof'' coat i have ever had that has been 100% waterproof, especially as it's triple layer goretex.
good luck with your purchase, but i would stongly recommend looking aroud on the net and forums, especially look at overseas stuff as it's well worth it.
Keela Munro. Used by most mountain rescue teams, about £150 notes and they do it in Olive and Black.....
http://www.keela.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_in fo&products_id=180
Keela Munro. Used by most mountain rescue teams, about £150 notes and they do it in Olive and Black.....
http://www.keela.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_in fo&products_id=180
Is it Goretex??
Is it Goretex??
Better !! it's called SDP and here is the "science bit".. http://www.keela.co.uk/index.php?main_page=page&id=14
Better !! it's called SDP and here is the "science bit".. http://www.keela.co.uk/index.php?main_page=page&id=14
I think you mean here's the science and marketing bit....
So apart from not being goretex and GBP 50 over 'budget' it fits the requirements perfectly...:rolleyes::)
peasantchurl
05-10-2010, 01:55
I can stretch my budget a little bit, I'm tempted to get the Keela jacket for use in the Cairngorms starting this November, will the fabric be inferior to gore tex ? the only water proofs I've used are cheap ones for under £20 and a poncho tarp in the woods and the lake district, I'm fed up with being hot and sweating using crap
I can stretch my budget a little bit, I'm tempted to get the Keela jacket for use in the Cairngorms starting this November, will the fabric be inferior to gore tex ? the only water proofs I've used are cheap ones for under £20 and a poncho tarp in the woods and the lake district, I'm fed up with being hot and sweating using crap
Hi,
Opinions on breatheable materials in water resistant jackets are wide and varied.
Some say Goretex is rubbish, Some say it's ok. Some swear by Paramo for example, some swear at it, other folks favour Ventile etc...
There is a heap of opinion here on the forum on Waterproof fabrics. Equally if you visit manufacturers sites there is a lot of marketing information on specific fabrics and why you should run with that fabric.
The simple truth is there is no jacket that is perfectly breatheable and waterproof, like a lot of things in life it's a compromise. More so if you are on a budget...
If it's any help to you. I've had good service ( 17++ years) out of a Berghaus Alpine Extrem for Mountaineering and a Berghaus Lightning for Bush / Hill walking stuff. Both are still leak free, haven't delaminated and the seam taping is still good. Both were made in the UK back in the day and used a 3 layer Goretex Taslan fabric IIRC they get washed when needed and I occasionally redo the DWR finish on the face fabric.
I'm sure the Keela jacket will be fine also. Keela stuff has a very good reputation.
HTH
John
I have a Keela Munro. It is a full on mountain jacket with all the technical features, adjustable mountain hood, pit zips etc. It is a good jacket for autumn and winter but it is heavy and warm for a shell jacket. I don't use it in the spring/summer for this reason.
You can get a Munro on Amazon for much less than the RRP of £150.
Anyone got any comments on unissued British Army Gore-Tex jackets please?
Go to the outlet village at Cheshire Oaks, that place is a goldmine for jackets at this time of year.
tiger stacker
04-01-2011, 12:43
Anyone got any comments on unissued British Army Gore-Tex jackets please?
Depends if it is the latest one with the pockets or the shell sans pockets. New one is ok to wear and a wee bit roomier, have dallied between them and prefer the new one.
Rabbitsmacker
04-01-2011, 17:31
i have one of the earlier goretex issue smocks, it's got 2 chest pockets that button as per smock pockets, and a huge wired arctic hood with a clever adjuster on the back. the build quality is absolutely bombproof. it has taken some very heavy rain without issues.
my only gripe is, it has no lower hand pockets, which, i understand why they aren't there, but in the hands of a civvy could do with them, i understand the latest ones have lower pockets.
but....like the look of that keela munro! good price and good features. what can i sell......
Rabbitsmacker
04-01-2011, 17:41
here is a link to an issue item like mine, different pockets, these ones are velcro closed but i think ther are the same spec otherwise. i got a 180/112 and it's gagantuan and i easily have room inside for multiple layers and duvet jacket if needed. (i wear a 180/104 or 112 and am a 42 to 44 chest mince pie dependant, and am 6 foot 1 tall if you need a size guide.)
https://www.dragonsupplies.co.uk/catalogue/871-Goretex-Jacket-SALE
johnnytheboy
04-01-2011, 17:58
UK DPM goretx jackets are very good, I had one for years and never let in abit of water, if you have a £100 though i would splash out on something abit posher and look at a Berghaus Cornice, its a good quality outer shell, you will see allot of them on the hills!!
Ryan Woods
04-01-2011, 18:44
But UK DPM goretex jacket dont have any pockets... unless you are not referring to the issue one.
Got a OG TNF bottom of the range goretex jacket with a £15 non brand OG fleece... three years down the line its still going strong with no sign of wear or fading! One of the most comfortable duo's or jackets for that matter I've worn.
Rabbitsmacker
04-01-2011, 18:53
early pattern do, also soldier2000 have them, this is the link to one that is identicle to mine
http://www.endicotts.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=1 542
https://www.dragonsupplies.co.uk/catalogue/398-Goretex-Jacket
the ones without pockets are pap.
But UK DPM goretex jacket dont have any pockets... unless you are not referring to the issue one.
Got a OG TNF bottom of the range goretex jacket with a £15 non brand OG fleece... three years down the line its still going strong with no sign of wear or fading! One of the most comfortable duo's or jackets for that matter I've worn.
Ryan Woods
04-01-2011, 18:55
Roger.
the ones without pockets are pap.
yeah, thats why the squaddies go out an buy the dutch version...
Rabbitsmacker
04-01-2011, 19:02
think i'd give the dutch one a go, gets a lot of good press doesn't it. sounds like it's built to last longer than the one i have. think i'm gonna have to plump for a civvy one again next tho, miss those creature comforts like lower pockets! lol
Ryan Woods
04-01-2011, 19:34
I just sold mine to the local army surplus store... dont like pranching about in DPM during civvy activities. ;)
UK DPM goretx jackets are very good, I had one for years and never let in abit of water, if you have a £100 though i would splash out on something abit posher and look at a Berghaus Cornice, its a good quality outer shell, you will see allot of them on the hills!!
UK DPM are indeed exceptional value, I've got berghaus too (I don't walk around town in bushie clothing) but the army one in fine. Thanks to firms like Jack Pike cammoflage clothing is becoming more popular (not that I ever had an image issue wearing it camping) so the anti cammo mob can at last keep stum.
Thanks for the advice.
What about the Craghopper Kiwi Aquadry jacket? There's next to no comment on Aquadry fabric on here so would appreciate the advice!
I bought a new unissued British Army Goretex jacket in olive green - it's the one with the pockets.
Criticisms: It has epaulettes. No mesh liner. No inside pockets. Pockets don't have a diagonal slot to slip your hands into - it's old skool top-loader. The hook for hanging it up is in a weird place, right at the top of the collar.
Pluses: Good thick Goretex material. Very high build quality. Over-engineered seam taping. Doesn't make you look like a squaddie - much. Full hood with draw string folds away neatly into the collar. Collar close up to cover most of your face if you want it to. Draw strings around the waist and bottom hem.
Conclusion: Bonza. Great jacket. I paid less than £45 delivered and I reckon you'd be hard pushed to match the quality on a civvie version for £100.
Ryan Woods
08-01-2011, 10:32
good review there Ronnie....!
WeThePeoplexfbm
08-01-2011, 11:00
i"ve got a austrian parka, oilve, it gore tex i think not sure but it pretty warm
http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd368/wethepeple/bob/Kink058.jpg
Rabbitsmacker
08-01-2011, 18:29
like the look of that austrian job. performs as it should? any good?
I've got the Craghoppers aquadry and it's very good, only cost me about £60 too and it's a dark green colour so it fits your description. I've also got a Mountain Equipment Prolite which is fantastic - goretex pro shell and it does the job superbly. Cost me £80 off eBay.