View Full Version : spitewinter october 2010
shaggystu
17-08-2010, 10:51
Eyup, I’ve just booked spitewinter campsite (http://chesterfielddistrictscouts.org .uk/?page_id=16) for 21st-25th of October (that’s right, four whole nights!) and of course you’re all invited.
Please take the time to read this post, by adding your name to the list you are confirming that you’ve read, understood, and agreed to the following.
edit:
we may be sharing the site with a group of explorer scouts. they're visiting on the thursday night to have a look at some of our set ups, and camping on the saturday night. i don't see that this will cause us any problems, i just thought you should be aware.
This is a child friendly site and your youngsters are welcome – unfortunately dogs aren’t.
Firearms (including air rifles, bows, catapults and anything else that fires a projectile) are prohibited at all times. If you turn up on site with any of the aforementioned you will be asked to leave.
Site fees are a measley £2.50 per person per night - but, with it being four nights this time they'll mount up, so can you please try and pay me as soon as possible, thanks.
There are good toilet facilities including showers, the showers take a token (50pence for about three minutes iirc) ask me for tokens if you want some.
Following on from the leave no trace (http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52806) thread and to try to pre-empt possible problems:
Forum members are responsible for themselves, the kit they use and their own actions at a Meet – if you bring along family (or a friend) then you also accept responsibility for them and their actions whilst they are on site.
Forum members under the age of 18 are welcome. However, they must be accompanied by at least one parent (or legal guardian).
You brought it in, you take it out – camping fees do not include a rubbish collection fee! The sites bins are the wheelie bins by the main entrance.
Fees must be paid. It’s rare, but sometimes people forget.
Responsible drinking of alcohol is ok – drugs are prohibited!
‘Appropriate’ behaviour: The site can, at any time, decline a booking – they can also ask* us (individually or wholly) to leave during the Meet. Be aware that the sight is surrounded by private farmland the owners of which are very aware of what’s happening on the campsite (there have been problems in the past with site users trespassing/vandalising farm land/buildings) and who do report back to the site owners regularly.
* i.e. Tell. The site is registered as educational land, there is neither a choice nor an ability to negotiate. Fees would still be owed!
Dropping kit off/parking – vehicular access is limited to a small car park by the entrance to the site – so you can’t pull right up to your pitch. Fortunately the site is only small so even if you wanted to pitch in the furthest corners from the car park you’d still only have 100yards at most to carry your kit. If anyone has concerns regarding the security of their vehicles I’m pretty sure that an arrangement could be made to lock the main gate overnight.
Fires – ground fires are not allowed – plain and simple, anyone found to be lighting ground fires will be asked to leave the site immediately. There are approximately 20 specific fire areas with raised concrete plinths spread around the site, these can be used for cooking fires, there is also a campfire circle in an amphitheatre kind of area,No cooking is allowed in the campfire circle. Some firewood is provided by the site but quantity and quality of wood is very variable (more than we could possibly use the first meet, none at all the second, loads again last time, sorry Ged), bringing your own fuel is a good idea.
Food - Unless organised prior to the Meet, you need to bring enough food to feed yourself while you are at the Meet.
Accidents do happen and people will try to help out where they can - If you are visiting someone elses pitch do not expect to be fed.
Use the appropriate tools at the appropriate times - mixing axes and low light levels is not a particularly wise move – chainsaws are prohibited at all times.
It would be wise to be carrying a torch before it gets dark! It could also be provident to put markers on your shelter so you can find it in the dark.
The site is suitable for using tents, hammocks and bivvies - use what you have and are comfortable using.
If you stick your name down and can no longer make it, please say so.
In the highly unlikely event that I need this ... I reserve the right to stop any individual(s) from attending a Meet.
Old hands
The Old hands are there to help me make sure that our reputation with Spitewinter remains as high as it is now - In effect the Old Hands will be Meet Mods.
It's fine if you want to:
be on your own
lay on your back looking at the sky, clouds, birds flying over etc.
whittle
practice 'stuff' - except tree felling; the site has strong opinions about that
practice flora and fauna i.d
so on and so forth ...
This is, in no way, a bushcraft course and it's for you to make of it what you will
Cheers
Stuart
shaggystu
17-08-2010, 10:52
meet list
shaggystu (probably +1)
cheers
stuart
meet list
shaggystu (probably +1)
Elines
Can't wait!
shaggystu (probably +1)
Elines
Cliv
hi all will make it if i can regards dave
shaggystu
19-08-2010, 19:21
meet list:
shaggystu (probably +1)
Elines
Cliv
dave53 (tbc)
we really should try and think of some projects for this one, we could achieve wonders with three whole days to spare.
i have an idea of a project i'd love to try but i want to see if it's feasible before i tell you what it is.
anyway, any ideas?
cheers
stuart
TinkyPete
19-08-2010, 21:22
meet list:
shaggystu (probably +1)
Elines
Cliv
dave53 (tbc)
tinkypete (TBC)
I hope I can make this on or at least part of it. I may be on a course during it, but get the weekends off hopefully and the course is back in the midlands so not as far to travel :)
we really should try and think of some projects for this one, we could achieve wonders with three whole days to spare.
i have an idea of a project i'd love to try but i want to see if it's feasible before i tell you what it is.
anyway, any ideas?
cheers
stuart
Not exactly a project but I know I should be doing better when I sharpen my Mori knives so any help on that be muchly appreciated - I use (freehand) an oilstone (two sided - 'coarse' and 'fine') and oil, if that makes any difference.
More than willing to take part/help out in any project, but would like some free time
meet list:
shaggystu (probably +1)
Elines
Cliv
dave53 (tbc)
tinkypete (TBC)
PREPER
:) ..........
shaggystu
20-08-2010, 10:00
Not exactly a project but I know I should be doing better when I sharpen my Mori knives so any help on that be muchly appreciated - I use (freehand) an oilstone (two sided - 'coarse' and 'fine') and oil, if that makes any difference.
More than willing to take part/help out in any project, but would like some free time
an afternoon's knife sharpening would be a great project, i've got loads of stones/files/wet'n'dry/strops etc. that i'll bring up, if other's could bring their sharpening systems too we should end up with a real good range, which would give most, if not all, of us a chance to try something new out. i can bring a couple of old knives and axe heads as well for people to "have a go" with.
cheers
stuart
........................... i've got loads of stones/files/wet'n'dry/strops etc. that i'll bring up, if other's could bring their sharpening systems too we should end up with a real good range, which would give most, if not all, of us a chance to try something new out. i can bring a couple of old knives and axe heads as well for people to "have a go" with.
That would be brillliant if it could go ahead- thanks Stu
TinkyPete
25-08-2010, 17:01
Sorry guys definatelly not going to be able to make this one, got to be in a field somewhere getting rained on for work over the whole month :(
meet list:
shaggystu (probably +1)
Elines
Cliv
dave53 (tbc)
PREPER
IntrepidStu
27-08-2010, 13:45
Last time was fun, even though i was going through hard times....Im defo up for it again Stu..Nice one for organising it again matey.
Stu
shaggystu (probably +1)
Elines
Cliv
dave53 (tbc)
PREPER
IntrepidStu
shaggystu (probably +1)
Elines
Cliv
dave53 (tbc)
PREPER
IntrepidStu
Ged - hopefully - and if I make it I'll bring some of my sharpening things. :)
shaggystu
03-09-2010, 10:21
Sorry guys definatelly not going to be able to make this one, got to be in a field somewhere getting rained on for work over the whole month :(
well next years provisional dates are up there in the "12 months special" thread, there's plenty of time for your boss to schedule around us! you'll be missed mate
Last time was fun, even though i was going through hard times....Im defo up for it again Stu..Nice one for organising it again matey.
Stu
glad you enjoyed last time mate, look forward to seeing you again.
Ged - hopefully - and if I make it I'll bring some of my sharpening things. :)
hope you can make it, i'll work out some sort of rota to keep you supervised and safe and away from petrol!
regarding the sharpening things, it'd be good if you could bring along some of your stuff because nothing of mine ever gets used on stainless (very rarely at least) and i'd guess that your kit does, every blade i've seen you with has been stainless anyway.
meet list:
shaggystu (probably +1)
Elines
Cliv
dave53 (tbc)
PREPER
IntrepidStu
Ged - hopefully
cheers
stuart
... i'll work out some sort of rota to keep [ged] supervised and safe and away from petrol!
You mean keep everybody else safe? :)
... regarding the sharpening things, it'd be good if you could bring along some of your stuff because nothing of mine ever gets used on stainless (very rarely at least) and i'd guess that your kit does, every blade i've seen you with has been stainless anyway.
When I'm camping I normally don't do anything which calls for a large blade, mostly I just use a multi-tool or two and a small (sometimes very small) folder. Yes, they're all stainless because unfortunately they're often wet, sometimes for quite a while. If I lived in Arizona it might be different.
I have quote a few non-stainless tools like chisels and planes (which never get wet), and a few old folders, machetes and axes (which do). They rarely venture far afield but they take some stick at home. I'll try to bring some examples of those along too, and the sharpening tools I use for them, if only so you can see how rusty and rough they are. :)
MartinK9
05-09-2010, 14:24
I'm in. :)
meet list:
shaggystu (probably +1)
Elines
Cliv
dave53 (tbc)
PREPER
IntrepidStu
Ged - hopefully
MartinK9
If the knife-sharpening goes ahead maybe someone can tell us just what the recent addition to the site on knife-sharpening actually means:
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/downloads/pdf/knifeshexps.pdf
I have skimmed it and got nowhere - or is it just me???
shaggystu
08-09-2010, 10:48
If the knife-sharpening goes ahead maybe someone can tell us just what the recent addition to the site on knife-sharpening actually means:
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/downloads/pdf/knifeshexps.pdf
I have skimmed it and got nowhere - or is it just me???
i got as far as electron microscope and then lost all interest so i guess it won't be me doing the explaining! i wouldn't worry too much though chris, i've just spoken to spitewinter and apparently their electron microscope is in for service that week anyway, so i guess we'll just have to rely on the old fasioned method of testing for sharpness and seeing whether or not we can cut stuff up!
cheers
stuart
If the knife-sharpening goes ahead maybe someone can tell us just what the recent addition to the site on knife-sharpening actually means ...
I'll be glad to. :)
I have skimmed it ...
Therein lies the problem. :(
... got nowhere - or is it just me???
No, you probably aren't the only one who skimmed it. :)
There's a lot of science involved in sharpening a blade. Physics is part of it, but how materials behave is a greater part. The edges of sharp things are microscopically sized. At the microscopic level, materials like steels behave very differently from what you might expect. This paper presents some useful insights into that.
The paper is semi-academic and semi-rigorous. The author was careful to do something that is very important in any published work of this nature, that is he explains what he did. Unfortunately the title of the paper and the first two paragraphs are grossly misleading (*), and to my mind the author doesn't fully explain why he did what he did until page 43, by which time (in part because his explanations of what he did, as opposed to why he did it, are fairly lengthy) the boredom threshold of many people will have been exceeded.
* Perhaps my use of the term "grossly misleading" wasn't exactly called for, but he talks about knife sharpening in the title and his first two paragraphs (page 2) and then in almost all the rest of the paper he talks about nothing but razor blades. If this sounds too negative, then on the positive side I'm fairly sure that his misleading of the reader is not intentional.
If you will permit me to make some horrendous oversimplifications in summing it up, the guy sharpened some fairly hard (RC60) stainless steel razor blades, and, once he'd sharpened them, he looked at them with a microscope and reported what he saw. He didn't cut anything with them at all.
This is a fascinating paper and there are lots of things to be learned from it. But before I tried to make use of any of those things I'd have to ask myself one question:
"Why am I doing this?"
For example the paper does not talk about the actual applications of the blades, nor their edge retention qualities. It looks at the "quality" of the edges entirely in an optical sense, in other words is what it looks like. As I'm a beard wearer, the blade sharpening angles used in the paper are well below anything that I might normally use. This doesn't mean that there's nothing in the paper of value to me, but it means that I need to be careful how I apply it. I don't know for example if a perfectly smooth edge is going to cut what I want to cut any "better" (whatever that means) than the comparatively rough old edges that I normally use, and I don't know if it will last any longer.
shaggystu
08-09-2010, 21:04
This is a fascinating paper and there are lots of things to be learned from it. But before I tried to make use of any of those things I'd have to ask myself one question:
"Why am I doing this?"
For example the paper does not talk about the actual applications of the blades, nor their edge retention qualities. It looks at the "quality" of the edges entirely in an optical sense, in other words is what it looks like. As I'm a beard wearer, the blade sharpening angles used in the paper are well below anything that I might normally use. This doesn't mean that there's nothing in the paper of value to me, but it means that I need to be careful how I apply it. I don't know for example if a perfectly smooth edge is going to cut what I want to cut any "better" (whatever that means) than the comparatively rough old edges that I normally use, and I don't know if it will last any longer.
cheers for that ged, you have a much greater ability than i do when it comes to explaining things technical.
i do feel that we're trying to say very simliar things.
i've never looked at the edge of any of my blades under any kind of magnification (when sharpening) because i've never felt the need to. to my mind, sharp, when applied to a cutting tool, means "fit for purpose". if the purpose is to take photo's under an electron microscope then a lovely smooth blade is perfect, if the purpose is to carve wood then i'm not so sure that a perfect smooth blade is so good. mr, mears in all his wisdom very clearly states that running a knife along the edge of a landrover window is the perfect way to get a "working" edge. the theory behind that (as far as i'm aware) is that the tiny little serations that the glass imparts on the edge will improve cutting performance. as for longevity i wouldn't know where to start, i'd guess that a slightly rough blade would stay "sharp" for longer than a completely smooth one, but i'm probably wrong.
i think that we all run the risk of massively over-complicating things when it comes to sharpening our bushcraft blades, after all most of us are only playing with our sharps, it's not like we're doing surgery!
cheers
stuart
... to my mind, sharp, when applied to a cutting tool, means "fit for purpose" ... i think that we all run the risk of massively over-complicating things when it comes to sharpening our bushcraft blades ...
Spot on Stu, and thanks for the compliment that I snipped. :)
We should probably have started another thread in a different part of the forum if we were going to get as far into it as we have done, maybe I'll start a list of the things I could bring along for us to play around with, in the 'edged tools' section.
Ged - thanks for reading that article and summarising at least some of it - the original was much too dense for me. I'm really looking forwrd to the knife sharpening at Spitewinter in October. I thought I had a lot to learn and now I am certain I do.
Stu - thanks for picking up on the idea and running with it.
shaggystu
10-09-2010, 08:07
... maybe I'll start a list of the things I could bring along for us to play around with, in the 'edged tools' section.
good idea
cheers
stuart
... maybe I'll start a list of the things I could bring along for us to play around with, in the 'edged tools' section.
good idea
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61469&p=744555#post744555
I'm hoping to make this one.
shaggystu (probably +1)
Elines
Cliv
dave53 (tbc)
PREPER
IntrepidStu
Ged - hopefully
MartinK9
Wayland (TBC)
shaggystu
11-09-2010, 23:10
I'm hoping to make this one.......
i've put some seriously deep thought into this and as far as i can work out there's no activity known to man that wouldn't be improved by added viking!
look forward to seeing you there mate
cheers
stuart
WolfCrafter
16-09-2010, 05:44
I'm hoping too to make this one Stu!
shaggystu (probably +1)
Elines
Cliv
dave53 (tbc)
PREPER
IntrepidStu
Ged - hopefully
MartinK9
Wayland (TBC)
WolfCrafter
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Look forward to the blade sharpening after all this insight that's happening here!! :0)
i've put some seriously deep thought into this and as far as i can work out there's no activity known to man that wouldn't be improved by added viking!
look forward to seeing you there mate
cheers
Stuart
Let's hope I can make it then. :D
It's tight because I've got Middlewood the next weekend and October is a busy month.
IntrepidStu
16-09-2010, 12:01
Im at middlewood too. Although its beggining to look like there will be more people there than Manchester city center on a Saturday nnight
Let's hope I can make it then. :D
It's tight because I've got Middlewood the next weekend and October is a busy month.
That's half the fun there, getting the chance to catch up with everyone.
It's nice to do smaller meets too though.
shaggystu
29-09-2010, 21:38
OP edited to include:
edit:
we may be sharing the site with a group of explorer scouts. they're visiting on the thursday night to have a look at some of our set ups, and camping on the saturday night. i don't see that this will cause us any problems, i just thought you should be aware.
cheers
stuart
shaggystu
29-09-2010, 21:46
I'm hoping too to make this one Stu!...
...Look forward to the blade sharpening after all this insight that's happening here!! :0)
look forward to seeing you there, i spent an hour on your blog earlier, some great pics, interesting stuff.
the sharpening should be good, still very open to suggestions for other projects as well.
meet list:
shaggystu (probably +1)
Elines
Cliv
dave53 (tbc)
PREPER
IntrepidStu
Ged - hopefully
MartinK9
Wayland (TBC)
WolfCrafter
cheers
stuart
WolfCrafter
12-10-2010, 18:42
Hi Stu, cheers for talking time to checkout my blog!! :0)
Sorry, I've made a bobo!! Iv booked the wrong weekend off and can only make the following weekend now at North wood!! (I'll see you there though as I see your names on the list!)
Sorry again dude!! means iv got another week to wait now!!! :0(
shaggystu
12-10-2010, 23:02
......Iv booked the wrong weekend off and can only make the following weekend now at North wood!! (I'll see you there though as I see your names on the list!)......(
no worries mate, hopefully see you next time (next year).
north wood is same as always, subject to approval from SWMBO, i'll hopefully make it down though.
cheers
stuart
shaggystu
12-10-2010, 23:04
revised list
meet list:
shaggystu (probably +1)
Elines
Cliv
dave53 (tbc)
PREPER
IntrepidStu
Ged - hopefully
MartinK9
Wayland (TBC)
not long to go on this now chaps, looking forward to it
stuart
I'm looking forward to this one, I can only get there for the Sunday night though!
Real life gets in the way sometimes.
See you in a week,
PREPER........ :)
shaggystu
17-10-2010, 19:59
.....I can only get there for the Sunday night though!
Real life gets in the way sometimes......
shame you'll only be with us for the night, that real life's a bitch innit.
4 days to go!!!!!!!!!!!!
i'm all excited!!!!!!!!!!
anyone else fancy joining us?
stuart
shaggystu (probably +1)
Elines
Cliv
dave53 (tbc)
PREPER
IntrepidStu
Ged - hopefully
MartinK9
Wayland (TBC)
Istvan (from Friday night till sunday)
Regards
shaggystu
18-10-2010, 14:52
good stuff istvan, see you friday (you bringing your mate, robert?, with you to this one?)
stuart
MartinK9
18-10-2010, 15:01
Apologies to all, something has come up in the real world and I can't make this one.
Have a great time one and all.
List Amended:
shaggystu (probably +1)
Elines
Cliv
dave53 (tbc)
PREPER
IntrepidStu
Ged - hopefully
Wayland (TBC)
Istvan (from Friday night till sunday)
shaggystu
18-10-2010, 15:08
Apologies to all, something has come up in the real world and I can't make this one.....
you'll be missed mate, hope it's nothing too unpleasant in the real world, see you soon
stuart
MartinK9
18-10-2010, 15:30
you'll be missed mate, hope it's nothing too unpleasant in the real world, see you soon
stuart
Cheers mate, nothing bad; just my garden, the blokes decided to start now. :)
IntrepidStu
18-10-2010, 15:38
Anyone got the OS grid ref? Im getting a lift off Clive, but its nice to have a look at the surrounding areas as well.
Cheers
Stu.
shaggystu
18-10-2010, 15:47
Cheers mate, nothing bad; just my garden, the blokes decided to start now. :)
well it's about time, see you soon mate
Anyone got the OS grid ref? Im getting a lift off Clive, but its nice to have a look at the surrounding areas as well.
Cheers
Stu.
SK 342 665 - i'll bring the relevant OS sheet along
cheers
stuart
IntrepidStu
18-10-2010, 16:13
Is it sheet 268 Stu?? If so, ive got it here. Just runnin round like mad at the moment because for some reason I thought it was NEXT thursday....Doh !
shaggystu
18-10-2010, 16:16
Is it sheet 268 Stu?? If so, ive got it here. Just runnin round like mad at the moment because for some reason I thought it was NEXT thursday....Doh !
not sure mate, give me a minute i'll go look - meanwhile, you get packing!
stuart
shaggystu
18-10-2010, 16:30
i'm guessing that 268 is one of the explorer series? i've got OL24 (outdoor leisure series)
stuart
IntrepidStu
18-10-2010, 16:44
for some reason, im looking at a map of Maclesfield ! Ive GOT to calm down and get my head screwed on Stu. What i wanted was to look at some locations to gather some wood. i was thinking of using the big fire pit to cook on and i know they dont like us using their wood !
i'm guessing that 268 is one of the explorer series? i've got OL24 (outdoor leisure series)
stuart
IntrepidStu
18-10-2010, 16:50
Just so happens ive got 2 copies of the ol24 (white peak). Is anyone coming who knows how to prepare a dutch oven? (with oil and kitchen roll i believe). Do you want me to bring my new Files (B'stard, medium, fine cut). ?
shaggystu
18-10-2010, 16:57
for some reason, im looking at a map of Maclesfield ! Ive GOT to calm down and get my head screwed on Stu. What i wanted was to look at some locations to gather some wood. i was thinking of using the big fire pit to cook on and i know they dont like us using their wood !
on the wood gathering front there's a pretty big wooded area just across the road from us, that should be good for some wood collecting.
technically we're not allowed to cook in the big fire area (not sure why, scouts can be a bit odd!) but that said the rules generally seem a little flexible for us so we might be able to get away with it.
shaggystu
18-10-2010, 16:59
Just so happens ive got 2 copies of the ol24 (white peak). Is anyone coming who knows how to prepare a dutch oven? (with oil and kitchen roll i believe). Do you want me to bring my new Files (B'stard, medium, fine cut). ?
have a look at www.camp-cook.com for some advise about your dutch oven.
new files are always good, they always remind me of how worn down mine are!
cheers
stuart
IntrepidStu
18-10-2010, 17:12
Ok matey, I'll bring a couple of backup stoves just in case. I think I'll leave to dutch oven and find somewhere local to do it.
Stuart.
shaggystu
18-10-2010, 19:48
anybody wany any charcloth? we've just had a bit of a sort out at home and i've got loads of old bedding to get rid of, it's either going in the bin or i can bring a load along and make some charcloth if it's of any use to anyone, i'll be making a bit for myself anyway so just shout up if you want some and i'll bring fabric for all.
cheers
stuart
good stuff istvan, see you friday (you bringing your mate, robert?, with you to this one?)
stuart
No. He`s going to Canada this weekend, but I`ll be there to learsn some new skills!!
PREPER can you bring some staff with you? I might buy someting......
Thanks
shaggystu
18-10-2010, 20:40
No. He`s going to Canada this weekend.....
canada or spitewinter, hmmmm, ok fair choice
cheers
stuart
shaggystu
18-10-2010, 21:29
i've just had a phone call from the warden up at spitewinter telling me two things - firstly he wanted to let me know that we'll be sharing the site for most of the weekend, friday night there's a load of scouts overnight, they don't arrive until about 7 and will be gone for about 10 the next morning so i doubt we'll see much of them. the ventures (mentioned in the OP) are going to be shelter building and camping on the saturday night - secondly he wanted to let me know that there's plenty of firewood there for use to use, which is nice.
cheers
stuart
[PREPER can you bring some stuff with you? I might buy someting......
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Istvan,
No problem, PM me with what you are after and I'll try to bring it along (I have that pair of DPM gortex trousers you asked about!). I'm not arriving untill Sunday afternoon though. If any else one wants anything? (post 159 http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=59347&page=4 PM me)
PREPER......... :)
ooo I might be able to make it fri and/or sat!
shaggystu
19-10-2010, 11:22
ooo I might be able to make it fri and/or sat!
always good to see new faces, hope you can make it down for both/either nights
this is how the list looks at the moment
shaggystu (probably +1)
Elines
Cliv
dave53 (tbc)
PREPER
IntrepidStu
Ged - hopefully
Wayland (TBC)
Istvan (from Friday night till sunday)
MSkiba (friday and/or saturday TBC)
see you all soon
stuart
Just a quick note to confirm I am 99% certain to be there but probably won't arrive till Friday some time (in daylight though) and hope to be there till Sunday
shaggystu
19-10-2010, 21:24
99%'s pretty good mate, i'm not that certain i'll be there!
look forward to seeing you friday
stuart
May have missed this somewhere but what time can we arrive on Friday?
shaggystu
19-10-2010, 21:59
May have missed this somewhere but what time can we arrive on Friday?
any time you like mate, i'll be there from thursday lunchtime
stuart
shaggystu
19-10-2010, 22:44
just a thought, is anyone bringing a camera along this weekend, we didn't manage to get any photo's up at all of the last meet and it'd be nice to get at least a few up this time. i'll have my little compact camera with me but it's not much of a camera, i'm not much of a photographer, and TBH i usually forget that i've even got it!
stuart
I'll probably have my compact with me.
I usually forget to take pictures though so remind me.
IntrepidStu
20-10-2010, 11:01
I'll Bring my camera as well folks. Its a bit bulky so im not lickely to forget ive got it with me..Ive got 3000 spaces on the memory card so ill snap away like mad, haha.
Stu. (maybe best to be known as Stu2 from tomorrow !)
shaggystu
20-10-2010, 11:21
.....I usually forget to take pictures though so remind me.
we'll get a banner made "can the bearded hairy fellows please photograph the other bearded hairy fellows"
I'll Bring my camera as well folks. Its a bit bulky so im not lickely to forget ive got it with me..Ive got 3000 spaces on the memory card so ill snap away like mad, haha.
Stu. (maybe best to be known as Stu2 from tomorrow !)
3000 spaces! you'll be able to post nearly as many photo's as martin usually does!
stu2, hmmmmmm, not much of a ring to it. tell you what you stick with stu and i'll be shaggy, after all, i am.
cheers
stuart
IntrepidStu
20-10-2010, 13:05
I'll practice my scooby doo impression stu haha. Think ill have a shave as well so im easily recognised !
we'll get a banner made "can the bearded hairy fellows please photograph the other bearded hairy fellows"
3000 spaces! you'll be able to post nearly as many photo's as martin usually does!
stu2, hmmmmmm, not much of a ring to it. tell you what you stick with stu and i'll be shaggy, after all, i am.
cheers
stuart
shaggystu
20-10-2010, 13:19
I'll practice my scooby doo impression stu haha. Think ill have a shave as well so im easily recognised !
:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:
don't go shaving mate, it's way too cold for that particular social convention, the next time i shave will be gemma's birthday (valentines day) and that's only because she insists on it.
i suppose i really ought to go and have a look what's in my rucksack, maybe pack a few bits for the weekend. i've just glanced at my list and so far it says "mulled wine?", hmmmmm, maybe a blanket too.
cheers
stuart
IntrepidStu
20-10-2010, 13:32
My god..I can barely lift my rucksack..and my food bag wieghs even more, and thats WITH dehydrated food in it haha. At least no one will starve. "Intrepid's Cafe"..got a good ring to it ! Anyway, see you tmoz Stu. Clive and I should be there for around 2.30 i think so have a brew on matey.
:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:
don't go shaving mate, it's way too cold for that particular social convention, the next time i shave will be gemma's birthday (valentines day) and that's only because she insists on it.
i suppose i really ought to go and have a look what's in my rucksack, maybe pack a few bits for the weekend. i've just glanced at my list and so far it says "mulled wine?", hmmmmm, maybe a blanket too.
cheers
stuart
I'm heading down to Anchor first and then I should be around midday Friday.
?would i be right in thinking that the thing on knife sharpening is likely to be on Saturday some time?
We haven't formalized anything, but I've heaped a big pile of things to sharpen and sharpen with on my desk at work. At the moment it looks like somebody 's emptied a skip on it. There are still a few things to remember but I plan to bring a crate full of stuff with me and I'm hoping we'll be able to sit around and natter about the stuff and practice sharpening at least some of my junk on Saturday and/or Sunday if anyone wants to. I'm unable to stay overnights this time unfortunately (don't ask) but I should be there most of the day Sat/Sun.
Apologies to all, something has come up in the real world ...
Sorry to hear that Martin, see you when we next meet. :)
shaggystu
20-10-2010, 18:09
My god..I can barely lift my rucksack..and my food bag wieghs even more, and thats WITH dehydrated food in it haha. At least no one will starve. "Intrepid's Cafe"..got a good ring to it ! Anyway, see you tmoz Stu. Clive and I should be there for around 2.30 i think so have a brew on matey.
awesome! intrpidstu's spitewinter cafe, are you taking orders now?
I'm heading down to Anchor first and then I should be around midday Friday.
see you friday midday gary, hope anchor don't take too much of your hard earned cash, they're good at it!
?would i be right in thinking that the thing on knife sharpening is likely to be on Saturday some time?
quite possibly chris, i don't think a date/time has been mentioned so far so saturday's as safe a bet as any
my internet's playing up so there's every chance that i might not be able to get online again before tomorrow, so if not, see you all soon.
wrap up warm, it's pretty damn cold here at the moment and spitewinter's about 150m higher up than i am here, and very exposed, it's going to be cold.
cheers
stuart
...very exposed, it's going to be cold...
That's why they call it Spitewinter. :)
shaggystu
20-10-2010, 18:52
That's why they call it Spitewinter. :)
you know that, i know that, some folk think it's some kind of joke. i thought it might just be prudent to point out before i end up sharing my sleeping bag with some hypothermic plonker who's turned up in flip-flops and speedos carrying nowt but a mora and a toothbrush, it's not supposed to be that kind of a weekend.
stuart
you know that, i know that, some folk think it's some kind of joke. i thought it might just be prudent to point out before i end up sharing my sleeping bag with some hypothermic plonker who's turned up in flip-flops and speedos carrying nowt but a mora and a toothbrush, it's not supposed to be that kind of a weekend.
stuart
This will be the first time I have camped out at this time of year and will be bringing what I think will be the right gear (eg tent not the usual hammock and tarp) but if I get cold I promise not to try and snuggle up to anyone
IntrepidStu
20-10-2010, 20:36
Tent.......ooooooh coooooold. Im in a hammock with an underblancket, sleeping bag with an extra quilt. 2 pairs marino socks, merino thermals, thermal pants..Buffalo cold weather smock...and im STILL panicking about being cold. I hope the scouts dont use all the leaf litter because i may just end up stuffing some in my thermals haha. Seriously though...It IS gonna be very very cold, so sleeping in hat, socks and gloves is on the cards.
This will be the first time I have camped out at this time of year and will be bringing what I think will be the right gear (eg tent not the usual hammock and tarp) but if I get cold I promise not to try and snuggle up to anyone
IntrepidStu
20-10-2010, 20:38
"carrying nowt but a mora and a toothbrush" lmfao..classic one Stu...keep em comin this weekend matey and we can all keep warm laughing !
Stu
IntrepidStu
20-10-2010, 20:42
you know that, i know that, some folk think it's some kind of joke. i thought it might just be prudent to point out before i end up sharing my sleeping bag with some hypothermic plonker who's turned up in flip-flops and speedos carrying nowt but a mora and a toothbrush, it's not supposed to be that kind of a weekend.
stuart
Not unless there are some lovely girlies.....or some VERY pretty boys hahaha
hogstable
20-10-2010, 20:56
[QUOTE=shaggystu;764256]always good to see new faces, hope you can make it down for both/either nights
this is how the list looks at the moment
shaggystu (probably +1)
Elines
Cliv
dave53 (tbc)
PREPER
IntrepidStu
Ged - hopefully
Wayland (TBC)
Istvan (from Friday night till sunday)
MSkiba (friday and/or saturday TBC)
Jim (Sunday night only)
see you all soon
Looking forward to it, I've heard that there is an emergency duvet store that opens up if it gets a bit chilly.
shaggystu
20-10-2010, 21:35
look forward to meeting you hogstable (jim i presume?)
this is how the list looks at the moment
shaggystu - all 4 nights
Elines - from friday
Cliv - all 4 nights
dave53 (tbc)
PREPER - just one night (sat iirc)
IntrepidStu - all 4 nights
Ged - visiting in the day but not overnighting
Wayland - from friday
Istvan - friday and saturday nights
MSkiba - friday and/or saturday
Jim - Sunday night only
i think that's right
cheers
stuart
shaggystu
21-10-2010, 10:14
right then, that's me off to spitewinter (so you'll not get a response from me now until monday, if anyone wants to ask "can i come up" the answer is yes).
see you all there soon, travel safe.
stuart
...STILL panicking about being cold ... It IS gonna be very very cold, so sleeping in hat, socks and gloves is on the cards.
It really isn't all that cold yet. People camp in the arctic, you know. And I'm sure hot water bottles are permitted. :)
Well it was cold on Saturday night and very windy on Friday night plus rain - but none of that stopped a fantastic weekend. Once again I am amazed at the level of knowledge of people attending these weekends and their willingness in passing it on.
Particular thanks to:
• Stu for arranging it and his generosity
• Ged for all his advice on what is happening when working metal, in particular sharpening knives, and for bringing loads of stuff to illustrate
• Clive for a practical demonstration in sharpening (higher management’s) kitchen knife
• Istvan for demonstrating how to make a tipi clone from a DD XL tarp
• Wayland for explaining the mysteries of a military compass (the sort that has a mirror and you can’t use in the same was as a baseplate compass)
(Pictures to follow if I can remember how to do it)
Great weekend. Many thanks to Stuart for organizing it and thanks to everyone for the good company.
Great weekend. Many thanks to Stuart for organizing it and thanks to everyone for the good company.
Ditto all of that, and I vote Gary the man of the match for bringing his tatty, blue, and very BIG tarp!
I'm just glad I thought to pack it.
We're leaving it there now so it should be always available in future.
MartinK9
25-10-2010, 14:23
Pics, we need pics :)
Didn't take many...
http://www.ravenlore.co.uk/assets/images/Winter_Hammock-3.jpg
shaggystu
25-10-2010, 16:03
thanks all for another great meet, it's nice to see the site starting to live up to it's name.:hatscarf:
thanks especially for all the help with with the scouts :grouphug:
looking forward to next years meets already, and i'll keep you all up to date with what the site say regarding a winter meet.
cheers
stuart
p.s. clive, i've got your poncho, probably see you next weekend though.
stu, i've got your files, what would you like me to do with them?
Thanks for a great Sunday night Stuart and Hogstable.
Sorry I only caught the rest of you for the last hour before you left on the Sunday.
Looking forward to a winter meet.
Cheers,
PREPER....... :)
This is where we spent a lot of time
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_9xvuhPOttMA/TMSgvLDOkeI/AAAAAAAABPY/ESMiL8jGm-c/s512/CIMG5380.JPG
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_9xvuhPOttMA/TMSf8boOeVI/AAAAAAAABO0/KFplxsByaBw/s512/CIMG5331.JPG
The man himself
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_9xvuhPOttMA/TMSf-GTWQrI/AAAAAAAABO4/kLaYHqzS8go/s512/CIMG5333.JPG
along with some others
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_9xvuhPOttMA/TMSf_3bwIOI/AAAAAAAABO8/DSxIwcmf7FI/s512/CIMG5344.JPG
and this is why we were at the fire - the builder's waste wood provided for firewood included hardboard which burnt beautifully
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_9xvuhPOttMA/TMSgAqJZC0I/AAAAAAAABPA/nifBUIGuYWI/s512/CIMG5362.JPG
Istvan with his tipi clone - using a standard 3m x 3m DD tarp. Just to emphasise: Istvan set these up just as an experiment on Sunday morning
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_9xvuhPOttMA/TMSgDWehaYI/AAAAAAAABPE/YghpzUBogGU/s512/CIMG5384.JPG
and Istvan again but this time using a DD XL tarp (4.5m x 3m) - I'd really like to give this a go as it provides plenty of room, with the shelter of a tent but the more open air you get from a tarp. With a little re-positioning of pegs you could probably close the door to keep out bad weather, and still have plenty of room inside for yourself and a reasonable amount of gear (rules me out then!)
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_9xvuhPOttMA/TMSgGCn2i0I/AAAAAAAABPI/Ez4SZRFS9m8/s512/CIMG5385.JPG]
shaggystu
26-10-2010, 02:47
thanks for the photo's chris, as per usual i completely forgot to take any, i'm hoping that stu's gonna post some of the many that he took soon
cheers
stuart
MartinK9
26-10-2010, 03:09
Great pics. Sorry I couldn't make this one. :)
yep it is a very nice site being open it has a very different feel to it .
prep to be cold and you wont go wrong
Twodogs
Great pics! Thanks for the weekend.
Istvan
shaggystu
26-10-2010, 17:40
the thread with the pics is here (http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63525)
stuart
IntrepidStu
26-10-2010, 18:26
You'll have to keep hold of them untill next time im down mate. Use them if u want but save me a bit !
thanks all for another great meet, it's nice to see the site starting to live up to it's name.:hatscarf:
thanks especially for all the help with with the scouts :grouphug:
looking forward to next years meets already, and i'll keep you all up to date with what the site say regarding a winter meet.
cheers
stuart
p.s. clive, i've got your poncho, probably see you next weekend though.
stu, i've got your files, what would you like me to do with them?
shaggystu
26-10-2010, 19:28
You'll have to keep hold of them untill next time im down mate.....
no problem mate, try and remind me next time i see you and i'll bring them along
stuart