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stonepaws
11-05-2005, 10:48
Can anyone let me know of the differences between these two knives....which one is more suitable for a competent beginner...? ta

Womble
11-05-2005, 10:58
By "Mears training knife" do you mean the Frost Mora?

If so, there are reasonably significant differences in build quality, price grade of steel (I suspect), but for starting-out purposes there's nothing wrong with the Mora at all. I've got both (in fact I got my Mora from Woodlore), and use both of them on an almost equal basis - depending on circumstances, and which is currently sharper.

Welcome to the site, by the way!

mojofilter
11-05-2005, 11:16
Here is a picture of the 2 knives to help you decide, the top one being the Mora or training knife, and the bottom one being the puukko.

http://img1.yoxio.com/img/164126.jpg

They will both do the exact same functions, but the Lapp puukko is a much nicer knife with a curly birch handle and a leather sheath. I would not think that the puukko is made of a significantly better steel than the mora, but the bigger bevel (partly down to a thicker blade) will make it easier to keep flat on a stone when sharpening.

I would say it all depends on if you want a knife to get the job done, or a nice knife to get the job done!

mojo

bothyman
11-05-2005, 12:09
I use a red handled Mora fits nicely in the hand, same price as the Green Plastic handled Mora, but a lot nicer in my opinion. :confused:
Sorry can't find a Picture of one or info where to get one I got mine off the net.

MickT

Not Bob
11-05-2005, 12:21
I use a red handled Mora fits nicely in the hand

MickT

I'm told the handle can be a bit small in diameter for people with big hands, though otherwise a nice knife.

Bagheera
11-05-2005, 12:31
Hi guys,

I have the Lapp Puukko in the picture myself and I love it, however for a beginner I would think the plastic finger guard on the Mora is an extremely important safety feature I would prefer for an beginner.

If a beginner would slip using the Lapp Puukko he or she could get seriously cut!. I still sometimes cut myself when I crop up to close to the blade when doing fine cutting jobs, the Lapp Puukko handle really thins out very much towards the blade.

Best Scouting wishes from Holland,

Bagheera

stonepaws
11-05-2005, 12:44
thanks, I'll learn some stuff on the Mora and then save for the Puukko... great site!

tomtom
11-05-2005, 12:45
i would go with the mora.. its that cheap that you can 'learn' to sharpen on it and it doesnt matter so much if you role the edge or something like that!

Hoodoo
11-05-2005, 12:50
That's a tough choice. Both are very good. I carry the SWAK a lot more though because I have a custom kydex sheath for it and it rides nicely upside down on the shoulder strap of my backpack. I also tend to agree with Bagheera's comments on safety. But I do like the Lapp Puukko as well. The knife looks good and feels good in the hand and the dangler sheath rides well on the hip.

Oops, I had to take a second look at that sheath. :o Not a dangler eh?

Hmmm, I think it is. Mine rides with a leuku so I don't have the single sheath.

Lithril
11-05-2005, 12:51
Mora is a nice knife but I've fell in love with the Kellam AK2 its similar to the pukko but the handle is slightly larger as I found the pukko had a tendancy to twist slightly in my hand.

Womble
11-05-2005, 13:01
Is that the one you had at Dartmoor last year Lithril? I recall that one being very nice indeed - very comfortable in the hand.

Lithril
11-05-2005, 13:07
Yup thats the one, easy to sharpen and really comfortable to use.

rowen
11-05-2005, 13:55
If your after a cheap starter knife have a look at here -

http://www.ragweedforge.com/

The Frosts knives im told are quite good and the prices are throw away. Maybe we could organise a group buy to get the P&P down and even a bulk buy rate. Id buy a few of the cheaper knives as gifts and just to give to friends who want to have a go.
There will be people on here who will be able to make recomendations as to which knife is best for you and at those prices you could buy a couple.

MartiniDave
11-05-2005, 14:10
Or you could get them from here -

http://www.tacklebargains.co.uk/acatalog/Fixed_Blade__Fillet_Hunting_.h tml

Cheers

Dave

stonepaws
11-05-2005, 14:55
sorry to be so daft, but what's a SWAK..?

TheViking
11-05-2005, 15:00
sorry to be so daft, but what's a SWAK..?
Swedish army knife. :)

mojofilter
11-05-2005, 18:16
Oops, I had to take a second look at that sheath. :o Not a dangler eh?




Yes it is! :D Look very carefully at the bottom left corner of the picture! ;)

ChrisKavanaugh
11-05-2005, 18:25
The puukko has a deceptively sophisticated handle. Remember Sammi people are working in the cold, often wearing mittens. The knives are drawn TO the body which gives greater, and safer control. That big flat pommel is usefull for pushing the knife into a reindeer or birchtree. Look at the angle. If you reverse grip the knife for careful incising your thumb rests very naturally on top. There was a swedish website with illustrations showing this and other grips. http://home.swipnet.se/lagerelden/mat.index.html

Hoodoo
11-05-2005, 19:42
Yes it is! :D Look very carefully at the bottom left corner of the picture! ;)

Yup! That's why I had to edit my post twice. :D

Justin Time
11-05-2005, 22:10
There was a swedish website with illustrations showing this and other grips. http://home.swipnet.se/lagerelden/mat.index.html

Chris
I tried that and got a 404. However trying the reverse grip was quite a revalation with my puukko, much more comfortable!

ChrisKavanaugh
11-05-2005, 22:21
The link seems to be no longer available :( One more bonus of the high rockwell, high carbon knives is the ability to work as steels with flints, a small but nice advantage for bushcrafting and survival.

mojofilter
12-05-2005, 05:29
Here is another picture showing the classic mora, which Im very fond of, and another well known bushcraft knife ;)

I use them all for pretty much anything apart from salt water, just the plastic mora for that!

http://img1.yoxio.com/img/164384.jpg

JFW
12-05-2005, 10:04
here is the link for the reverse hold.
http://home.swipnet.se/lagerelden/hantverk/talja.html

Cheers

JFW

Womble
12-05-2005, 10:52
Yeah, I can see how that would work.

Beaver Hater
17-05-2005, 23:49
I've had the Pukko for over a year now and found it a really nice knife the blade holds a great edge and the sheath hang well from my belt