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Hi,
The phone rang in the middle of last nights (28.4.05) Ray Mears, Doh! Does anyone remember his Bannock recipe? I've tried a few and so far they've been nasty!
Umm, I may be wrong but I think it was......2 parts flour, 1 part dried milk. In the one last night he added some dried egg, sugar and dried fruit....
there was also some baking powder (unknown quantity) and water (unknown quantity once again)
there was also some baking powder (unknown quantity) and water (unknown quantity once again)
Ahh, yes of course! He even made a point of it :rolleyes: Don't come and eat bannock at my place :D
Any suggestions as to the amount of water Tone?
I would imagine that it would be measured ad-hoc, based on when the dough looked right.
Bannocks are now DEFINATELY on the menu for the demo backwoods camp I'm doing next weekend, and I'd like to get some practice in at the weekend.
i would think the water would be 1 part.. to make flour/milk the same ammount
I would imagine that it would be measured ad-hoc, based on when the dough looked right.
Yep :)
Add the water a little at a time and mix in well... the dough should be sticky enough to bind to a stick but not too gloopy that it falls off. ... ie you can form it into a shape and it will stay there, not deform.
If you end up with a load of gloop you can either add more flour etc or fry the gloop like canadian pan cakes.
:)
Ed
was it a "pinch" of baking powder?
innocent bystander
29-04-2005, 11:58
How many parts of mosquito did he use ?
i think that you might have missed out one the ingredients, RUM :D lovely
sc
Thanks for your info everyone. - Andy
I think there was a smattering of mosquito and lashings of lovely rum !!
I thought it was powdered egg he used last night? :confused:
I know this recipe works. :)
6 cups flour
1 cup shortening
1 cup dry milk
1 tsp salt
1/4 cup baking powder.
For use, mix 1/3 cup water with 2 cups mix.
For pancakes, add 1 egg and 1 1/2 cups of water to 2 cups mix.
A gather up of the ingredients.
2 handfuls of the flour(self raising?) :confused:
1 handful of milk powder ;)
approx half a handful of egg powder :)
spoonful of baking powder :D
enough water to bind it
brown sugar :rolleyes:
1 mosquito :eek:
dried fruit :)
...and a drizzel of rum :p
I think the amounts are about right? :cool:
edit- im too slow for hoodoo :)
Keith_Beef
29-04-2005, 13:24
1 cup shortening
:confused:
Wot am dat?
Keith.
here it is
http://www.ochef.com/401.htm
I think we would use a knob of butter on this side of the pond.:cool:
Keith_Beef
29-04-2005, 15:22
here it is
http://www.ochef.com/401.htm
I think we would use a knob of butter on this side of the pond.:cool:
Ah, right.
Suet, then. Butter goes rancid too quickly in warm weather.
Atora vegetable suet lasts much better. I've had some in the kitchen cupboard for over two years, that was still perfectly good.
Keith.
Milk powder ...
Would that be the same stuff you put into your coffee??
I know you can get some pretty posh stuff overhere in sachets ... for an even more posh price :eek: - so using a handfull ... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :(
Cheers,
When we have made it in the past we heat up some syrup and dip the bannock in that. We have experimented with adding different ingredients, such as blackcurrants, chopped nuts, onions etc, bannock can be pretty boring on it's own!
Bannock recipes are hugely varied...I like mine made with sourdough starter.
Here is an article I did:
http://outdoors-magazine.com/s_article.php?id_article=142
Fallow Way
29-04-2005, 19:14
Like with all cooking, there are soooo many ways to go about amking things. Personally I`m one for experimentation, with very little having ever gone wrong (shut up Rob :-) )
With bannocks, if there is flour and something to help it rise and you have it just the dry side of sticky your not going to be far wrong, everything else is in there for personal taste or its about to go off :-)
Oh and see Rob and Mel, the war might well be over, but there`s at least two of us fighting the corner of powdered egg :-)
I like mine drizzled with honey. :)
http://www4.gvsu.edu/triert/images6/bannock0b.jpg
http://www4.gvsu.edu/triert/images6/bannock2b.jpg
http://www4.gvsu.edu/triert/images6/bannock3b.jpg
nameless
03-05-2005, 20:13
Ok lads i'm a bit confused can anyone give me a simple recipe aka how to do it simply? cause my heads sorta hurting :confused:
Cheers
Adam
I also couldn't get a decent bannock recipe from anywhere, and then I asked over on British Blades during the Great Crash.
There were a number of posts all following the same basic recipe, and I have still to perfect my bannock, but if you look here (http://www.britishblades.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8660&page=3&pp=15&highlight=bannock) you will be on the first page where a bannock recipe is posted, and I think there are a few more an the following pages.
Try it out at home first, then go for it in the woods. Good luck with it.
Spamel
Here you go Adam..
2 cups of plain four
1 cup of milk powder
4 table spoons of dried egg
4 table spoons of brown sugar
1 tea spoon of baking powder
2 hand fulls of sultanas
Mix it all together then add water slowly until you get a dough like consistancy. Put it in a pre heated pan squash it flat and then prop it up in front of your fire. Or 20 mins in an oven at 200 degrees.
Delish......
I thank you too for that recipe.
Can anyone let me know of somewhere you can buy dried whole egg. I’ve had a look and unless you want a lorry load you’re scuppered.
Ta
jamesdevine
05-05-2005, 12:22
Adam I have a really simple one (from Mors Bushcraft book)and I've used it a few times and it's pretty good even Sirena liked.
I get you copy and drop it over.
James
I thought after reading all the posts I would give it a go and here are the results of my first bannocks!
First a plain one
http://uk.geocities.com/martynwills@btinternet.com/MWimages/Bannock1.jpg
next with raisins
http://uk.geocities.com/martynwills@btinternet.com/MWimages/Bannock2.jpg
And finally with pork sausagemeat!
http://uk.geocities.com/martynwills@btinternet.com/MWimages/Bannock3.jpg
http://uk.geocities.com/martynwills@btinternet.com/MWimages/Bannock3b.jpg
Final thought - don't make these just before going out for dinner with the in-laws. The sight of a Yorkshire pudding totally turned my stomach!
There's a useful thread from a while ago on Bannock, Damper and campfire bread-making in general here:
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/community/showthread.php?t=4094&page=2&pp=10
My recipe is in that thread - Tony can vouch for it, as he used it to make a particularly tasty looking cheese and onion bread! :D
Nice looking bannocks Marts!
To imbed the image you have to upload it to a hosting site and then paste the link to the image in your message and tag the link with [img] codes.
Thanks Hoodoo. I'll do that this evening then - can't remember how to access my web space from work.
Rhapsody
22-05-2005, 23:44
I too can vouch for Match's bannock recipe! I tried it out on Friday to kick off an extended stay in the woods and I must say it came out a treat. I followed the recipe exactly other than that I made it using half a bottle of Old Hooky and I sprinkled a load of sugar on the top while cooking (so it caramelised and formed a lovely sweet crunchy topping). It would have been excellent made with raisins, but I hadn't taken any :(. Ah well, there's always next time!
Thanks a lot, Match; 'twas a good'un!
I thank you too for that recipe.
Can anyone let me know of somewhere you can buy dried whole egg. I’ve had a look and unless you want a lorry load you’re scuppered.
Ta
i managed to buy some from a way and save shop. smallest amount they do is a kilo ( 10 pounds 26p ) i hope that helps.
Try asda, its in the baking section with the cake making ingredients 10 eggs worth. Its called supercook handy egg. doesnt cost a fortune either.
I tried rays bannock recipe but found it was very heavy and solid - may try again with less egg next time.
Spacemonkey
23-05-2005, 20:18
After reading all this I thought I'd have a go. I used a real egg-from a chicken even-and a drop of olive oil. Not bad, but could do with a little cinnamon or nutmeg I think. Must get some... Made one heck of a mess though of my hands. How the heck would you wash this lot off in the field without getting all Pillsbury on everything?
Spacemonkey
23-05-2005, 21:20
Ok, just done some more. This time one had ginger in and the other had a 'Fajita' mix - chilli and paprika etc. Not bad at all, especially the chilli one, though too much egg this time. Will get there eventually.
i was watching Nigella Bites the other day and she used this type of bread in one of her recipes, unfortunately i missed the name of the bread coz i was paying more attention to her at the time. :p it was like a big square pitta bread on a roll, literally, she unrolled it and tore bits off. if anyone knows wot it was or what its called, cos it would be a great bread for weekend hikes etc... can be use as a wrap or to dip or whatever else.
forget the last posting, i have found out the name of the bread....its called Lavosh...a very thin bread made for wraps and other dishes.
you did well,even noticing what nigella(cue homer drooling sounds) was actually making.
Spacemonkey,
when I take bannock mix out with me it is normally in a poly food bag, I just add the water into the bag and squeeze the bag between my hands to mix it, absolutely no mess - unless the bag bursts....
Cheers
JFW
I found this link a while ago
http://my.tbaytel.net/scouts/bannock.htm
The simplest bannock recipes are a scone mix and should be considered as such. A hot scone is ok. A cold scone is dry. A hot scone with butter and jam is good and with cornish cream is suberb.
Please do not consider that your bannock are bad because you don't like it when you try it plain. Add some butter and jam or sugar and cinnamon as you would with scones.
If use it as bread with another full flavour food and it will be just fine.
I think its better to keep the basic bannock/ soda bread scone recipe simple and add the extra flavours after you have cooked it. But that just me.
If you make a basic bannock but add some mash potato and roll fairly flat 1/4 inch then griddle and serve with bacon and egg it is a superb breakfast.
Spacemonkey
02-06-2005, 20:39
Tried the poly bag, and it worked a treat. Cheeers! Also tried the cinnamon and it was a great success!
Spacemonkey,
sometimes the simplest tricks are the best - ingredients and mixing bowl in one lightweight solution, even keeps your hands clean.
Cheers
JFW
neo_wales2000
13-06-2005, 00:38
Griddle cakes, or Welsh cakes are dead easy to make, leave out the sugar and currants to make a cake to go with your stew or whatever. Use a dry pan with a little bit of flour in, to stop any sticking; not too high a heat, and they cook in a few mins, turn a couple of times
8 oz Flour
3 oz Butter
2 oz Castor sugar
1 Egg
2 oz Currants
1/2 ts Bicarbonate of soda
2 tb Milk or Milk powder and water
You can but a bit of garlic powder and or herbs in :)
Mix the flour, bicarbonate of soda together.
Rub the butter into the flour and add the sugar and
fruit. Beat the egg and add with enough milk to make
a soft dough.
Thats enough for two people.
http://www.recipesource.com/ethnic/europe/welsh/00/rec0009.html
BorderReiver
14-06-2005, 11:09
How many parts of mosquito did he use ?
I think he used all of the mosquito,they are a b#gger to joint. :p
Beakytzw
19-07-2005, 22:53
Ok I am going to go out for a night or 2 with my missus and daughter, so I thought I would practice making Bannock Bread. Using the receipe below:
6 cups flour
1 cup shortening
1 cup dry milk
1 tsp salt
1/4 cup baking powder
A hand full of sugar (all depends on your taste).
I thought since I will probably be mixing this together in the field i would actually prepare it in the kitchen as i would out in the field. so with plastic food bag and ingredience (spelling is crap) I began to add water slowly, a bit at a time, mix it around, add more water, until the mix was like putty. Stopped the water and carried on mixing until i had as many lumps out as possible.
Dig out small frying pan, turn up the heat to full on the gas cooker let frying pan warm up. I then dug out a medium sized lump of dough and dropped it into pan.l then rolled it round the pan gently letting it rest every now and then so it got evenly brown all over, prod with a knife (pretend stick) to make sure the inside was not sticky.
after about 10 mins, et voila bread :^) not bad either for a first shot.
This is where i got adventurous. Dug out mess tins, split the rest of mix into 2, to one I added cinnamon, to the other I added grated coconut and then prepared as per the first loaf.
My god they tasted so good I had to go share with my neighbour who is RAF and his kids. Well they have all ordered their loaves for saturday when they will be round in my place for my wifes b/day party. Cinnamon is definately my fav. Thanks all for sharing this receipe.
Look forward to reading more posts and learning more about this lifestyle from you guys n girls.
Phil
clcuckow
22-07-2005, 18:05
This is the recipe I have just used
1 1/2 cups plain flour
1 cup milk powder
1/2 Mr Mash(TM) (Instant Potato Flakes)
2 tablespoons dried whole egg
2 tsp Baking Powder
a good pinch of salt
Simple, dry mix, keeps well and is great toasted with lots of fresh butter :)
Biddlesby
02-08-2005, 15:44
I like the mixing-plastic-bag idea very much, and I'll be preparing sets of those for camping in the future. I'm off to try some bannock now, at home, with some raisins.
Also might try that mashed potato one for brekkie tommorrow.
macthemaths
02-08-2005, 23:23
You can get dried whole egg from Tescos. I had a look just this evening.
Also made my first Bannock this evening. Lovely if a little filling.
New to the forum and to bushcraft but am looking forward to good things to come!
Chris
Welcome to the forum and thanks for the tip. You might want to post in the introductions section and tell us a bit more about yourself. They are a friendly bunch here and there is always someone who can answer your questions.
Cheers
JFW
clcuckow
03-08-2005, 11:06
This is the recipe I have just used
1 1/2 cups plain flour
1 cup milk powder
1/2 Mr Mash(TM) (Instant Potato Flakes)
2 tablespoons dried whole egg
2 tsp Baking Powder
a good pinch of salt
Simple, dry mix, keeps well and is great toasted with lots of fresh butter :)
I had no bread in monday so I made some up to this recipe but relised I that I had made to much so I desided to make a sweet on by adding demerea sugar and rasins.
I normally don't make sweet bannock as am more of a savory nut and was a bit worried about the Potato Flakes. But even if I do say so it was bloody great. I think from now on I am going to make up bigger batch and just take it out as a base and then if I just want savory all I have to do is add water or add sugar and fruit if I fancy cake.
Christopher
P.S. can you technically call it bannock if it is baked?
Bannock \Ban"nock\, n. [Gael. bonnach.]
A kind of cake or bread, in shape flat and roundish, commonly
made of oatmeal or barley meal and baked on an iron plate, or
griddle; -- used in Scotland and the northern counties of
England. --Jamieson.
[1913 Webster]