Folding canoes [Archive] - BushcraftUK: Community Forum

anthonyyy

24-04-2005, 16:26

When it comes to folding kayaks or canoes (or indeed inflatables) the borders between them are somewhat blurred. They all tend to have large open cockpits and can carry loads of gear.
I hope this link will be useful: http://www.foldingkayaks.org/

As you might expect, the lighter it is the more expensive it is. I have an ancient East German folder "Pouch RZ85" a double kayak which can easily be paddled solo you can get one second hand for way less than £300 on Ebay.
The modern equivalent is the Klepper available from Knoydart http://www.knoydart.co.uk/
the cheapest single Klepper new is about £1400
Knoydart also sell the folding canadian canoe "pakcanoe" for £1045.
Skin on frame canoes, wheither folding or not, are lovely to paddle and much more robust and easy to repair in the field than you might expect.

anthonyyy

24-04-2005, 16:30

forgot to mention.
do a search on ebay.de for "faltboot" and youll find millions of 'em on offer.

Motorbike Man

24-04-2005, 17:12

forgot to mention.
do a search on ebay.de for "faltboot" and youll find millions of 'em on offer.
I'd found Knoydart and foldingkayaks.org, they've got some funstuff. Only snag with ebay.de is shipping the things to England :(

anthonyyy

24-04-2005, 17:29

I got a folding kayak shipped to Ireland from Germany for about eur 38 ( I think around £23 ?)

Motorbike Man

24-04-2005, 18:02

I got a folding kayak shipped to Ireland from Germany for about eur 38 ( I think around £23 ?)
hmm.....interesting ;) How did you get it shipped?

Chopper

24-04-2005, 18:55

I think that he paddled it...afterall it did say "buyer collects" :D

anthonyyy

24-04-2005, 20:00

"hmm.....interesting How did you get it shipped?"
__________________
Jon
2 parcels, can't remember the name of the shipping company

Spacemonkey

09-05-2005, 18:44

Maybe this is a better place to post this:

" http://www.pakboats.com/ do a folding canoe and kayak at a very reasonable price compared to everyone else, and with good dollar exchange rates at the mo' I'm tempted myself! As usual, any retailer in Rip Off Britain charges more in Sterling than the Americans charge in Dollars. Bit of a no brainer there then... I was looking at the Puffin series which is a kayak, but can be used without the top cover and can be used like a canoe in this respect. Obviously it is a compromise, but I'm sure that if the compromise is acceptable, then it should fit the bill! Packs into a small pack, so could easily be carried by bike. Trips to Poole harbour, or my old favourite-Mudeford harbour would be easy. You can go up the Avon to Bridge Street (not far really) or the Stour only as far as Iford Bridge, but it's a nice way to spend a few hours. I would launch out of Mudeford Quay and paddle up stream and then return with the flow all in an evening. In fact the more i think about it, then the more I think I'll get one of these, as it's the only way to get a canoe in an MX5 that I can think of, and I can also take it on a plane."

R-Bowskill

11-05-2005, 10:10

Guess what's just gone on my birthday present list to myself !!!!! :D :D :D

MartiniDave

11-05-2005, 11:11

as it's the only way to get a canoe in an MX5 that I can think of, and I can also take it on a plane."

I know what you mean! At the weekend I transported 2 kayaks (an 11 footer and a 13 footer) in a short wheelbase landy! Lots of rope involved, the longer boat was touching the inside of the windscreen! Must have been 4 or 5 feet hanging out the back over the part lowered tailgate!

Dave

Spacemonkey

11-05-2005, 18:45

All this talk of canoes has forced me to try to buy a mid length kayak of eBay. I reckon I can get a shorty in the passenger side with the roof down. Just shove the kayak in a sausage style body bag, sealed at both ends, and the car should stay dry! But I think a Puffin will be on order for next year. Has anyone tried one?

MartiniDave

12-05-2005, 08:44

SM

The newer designs are quite a bit shorter than the older stuff. I paddle a dancer at about 13 feet, but the new arc's etc are about 3 feet shorter, the little stunt boats quite a bit less than that, Try a google for "perception kayak".

Cheers,

Dave

Lithril

12-05-2005, 08:54

R-Bowskill

12-05-2005, 10:27

The use of sails on canoes goes back a long way, Inuit use them. I'm not sure about the Aluit but the secret for making it stable is to add a leeboard, basically a removable Keel that you clamp to the lee gunwale to counter the leverage of the wind in the sail.

In the right conditions it should in theory be possible to drift with the current as you go downstream and sail as you go upstream but that's just being a bit lazy.

anthonyyy

12-05-2005, 11:06

Dont let your choice of kayak be determined by the idea that it is easier to transport a shorter kayak.
There should be no problem carrying any length of kayak on a good roofrack of a small car. People regularly carry 17.5 foot sea kayaks on roofracks.

Sea kayaks are designed to be easy to paddle for long distances. Shorter river kayaks are designed to be easy to turn and need a lot of effort to keep them tracking straight.
On the other hand its cheaper to buy a second hand whitewater kayak and you could probably sell it off again without loosing much money.
Avoid the modern shorter "playboats" - these are great for running whitewater but TERRIBLE for touring. The best whitewater kayak for touring would be the older longer designs - like the perception dancer or corsica (these tend to be termed "general purpose kayaks".

Canadian canoes, however, can be difficult to load on a roofrack without assistance.

p.s. dont even think of canoeing on moving water without proper training!

Spacemonkey

12-05-2005, 16:07

anthonyyy

12-05-2005, 16:55

"Umm... there is no roof on an MX5.... hence...."

er.. um.. well build one!

Spacemonkey

12-05-2005, 21:14

;) But that's why I drive one!

MartiniDave

13-05-2005, 08:53

I find quite a few car parks have barriers that prevent me getting in with kayaks on the roof of the discovery - or in many cases just the disco and roof rack is too tall! Seems to be some sort of anti traveller measure.

Dave

bothyman

13-05-2005, 11:17

Has anyone built one of these??the Yarra LC looks interesting.

>>>>> http://yostwerks.com/

R-J

13-05-2005, 16:17

hey, there. i've just picked up a pakboat puffin 12 kayak and am chuffed to nuts with it. its small, weights under 10kg, handles amazingly well on the water even in a headwind. the stability has impressed me, i'm able to stand up on the water, unlike the solid one i used last year! its simplicity its self to put up and down (30 min in total 1st time) and packs to a handy size.

it has a one pice splash deck if you prefer a kyak, but i use mine open unless the water's looking bad and single paddle.

its has a 130kg payload and room in front for my 35L daysack and @ a 50L bag behing the (comfy but not that supportive to the lower back) seat.

all in all the best 850 euros (in germany at the moment) i've spent, possibly full stop.

anyway, i've got a 10day trip up past berlin in 2 weeks and possibly a couple of weeks in norway in july/august so i will keep u's posted.

go check them out at http://www.pakboats.com

Spacemonkey

13-05-2005, 20:51

excellent! Can you post some pics? How tough do you think the 'skin' is underneath? We all know that kayaks/canoes get scraped in normal use, what would happen to the Puffin?

spamel

14-05-2005, 14:00

R-J, whereabouts in Germany did you say you where again? Hint hint!!

R-J

14-05-2005, 16:06

the skin on the bottom feels tough enough to deal with the majority of scrapes, razor sharp rocks mid white water could be a problem, only could mind.

would have pics but missy mycelium didnt format the SD card before we went out :( !!!!!!!! still, we live and learn, lol.

yarrow has a 15 1/2 ft ally tramp if u's want to ask any questions, pool hardy (dont ask about the name) had also just got a puffin 12 aswell so any questions etc i'm sure the guys will be more than happy to answer, as am i.

anyway, just had a day on the water and am still chuffed to nuts, its critical that the seat in fastened securley as its kind of essential for regidity - i didnt and the main center cross beams popped out 1/2 way across the lake :eek: ! still floated, but was bloody hard work.

anthonyyy

14-05-2005, 18:48

Puffin folders are available from Germany via ebay.

item number 4549887034
kayak
euro 900 10.90 euro postage to UK

item number 4549886997
canadian
euro 700 FREE postage to UK

The seller has a 100% feedback rating and a score of 2880

I dont know why I'm telling you lot this 'cause I cant afford one!

anthonyyy

14-05-2005, 18:53

actually the postage for the kayak is eur 15.90, canadian is free

BorderReiver

17-05-2005, 11:16

Umm they've got a pic of a canoe with a sail there... doesn't that get a tad unstable?

I think the two blue things on either side of the boat were floatation devices on an outrigger thingy.

Wayland

31-12-2005, 18:19

Hey, this tread could do with ressurrecting.

Did anyone get one of these things. It sounds like just what I need, unless anyone knows better.

MagiKelly

31-12-2005, 22:27

JimH is the man to ask.

http://www.songofthepaddle.co.uk/jimh.jpg

http://www.songofthepaddle.co.uk/folding1.jpg

http://www.songofthepaddle.co.uk/folding2.jpg

http://www.songofthepaddle.co.uk/folding3.jpg

Topcat02

31-12-2005, 23:47

Now that is one item we could do with a passaround on. :D

Tengu

12-01-2006, 01:14

Id love a folding kayak but I couldnt dream of affording one

JimH

18-01-2006, 13:17

Now that is one item we could do with a passaround on. :D

Postage may be a trifle dear, and there's the small matter of disposing of my dead body :p

Supposed to be meeting Wayland up at Windermere sometime this w/e for a play...

Jim.

Motorbike Man

18-01-2006, 14:17

Postage may be a trifle dear, and there's the small matter of disposing of my dead body :p

Supposed to be meeting Wayland up at Windermere sometime this w/e for a play...

Jim.
Disposing of the dead body's the easy bit, just make sure it's well wrapped and send it to yourself by parcel farce, you'd never see it again :D

EDIT - I wouldn't mind seeing a pic of that completely packed away to get an idea of the packed size.

Graham_S

20-01-2006, 01:31

we just need a friendly mortitian to help dispose of the body.......
now who do we know that could help.......

tagnut69

20-01-2006, 10:45

It may be worth looking on ebay and a few Australian and New Zeland camping sites. When I was out there a couple of years ago I saw many in the shops and they wernt that expensive, P&P back here would proberbly only be about £40 aswell

Neil Mac'

23-01-2006, 20:52

Motorbike Man

23-01-2006, 21:41

Hi Folks,

Build your own! I'm hoping to get round to building one of these:

Clarkcraft.com (http://http://www.clarkcraft.com/cgi-local/shop.pl?type=item&categ=014&item=934922827&cart_id=1871198959876d42d0d0d2 d283ba89e3)

Note that the picture shows it without the deck covering in place.

Best wishes,

Neil.
Something not quite right with that link Neil, try this one (http://www.clarkcraft.com/cgi-local/shop.pl?type=item&categ=014&item=934922827&cart_id=1871198959876d42d0d0d2 d283ba89e3)

Neil Mac'

24-01-2006, 10:42

Thanks for sorting the link Jon. That is the correct page.

Best wishes,

Neil.

Motorbike Man

24-01-2006, 10:44

Thanks for sorting the link Jon. That is the correct page.

Best wishes,

Neil.
No probs, it's a great little site, I just wish I had the space to build one myself. It must be so satisfying when you put it on the water and it works :)

Neil Mac'

24-01-2006, 22:14

No probs, it's a great little site, I just wish I had the space to build one myself. It must be so satisfying when you put it on the water and it works :)

I'll tell you as and when I get round to it!

I think it would be a good thing though. I could stick it on the (canvas) roof of the 1955 Land~Rover and get some good weeks away. I used to canoe in my youth - did 100 miles down the Severn in 4 days for my Gold D of E; It's been a long time but if I could get back in practice on the canals I'd like to do some inshore touring and light camping up the West coast of Scotland.

Regards,

Neil

JimH

25-01-2006, 17:06

I wouldn't mind seeing a pic of that completely packed away to get an idea of the packed size.

Errm, see what I can do. I don't have any at present.

It is a 4'(ish) x 16"(ish) roll of foam and poles, plus a 3' x 2' x 18" holdall for the seats, ribs, skin, odds and sods.

No bags supplied. The whole lot just turns up in a hyouwge cardboard box!

I do demos, ask Wayland :D

I should be after Bergans for a commission...

HTH,

Jim.

Motorbike Man

25-01-2006, 17:33

Errm, see what I can do. I don't have any at present.

It is a 4'(ish) x 16"(ish) roll of foam and poles, plus a 3' x 2' x 18" holdall for the seats, ribs, skin, odds and sods.

No bags supplied. The whole lot just turns up in a hyouwge cardboard box!

I do demos, ask Wayland :D

I should be after Bergans for a commission...

HTH,

Jim.
Sounds like it might still end up being a bit on the large side for a bike with camping gear as well :( However, if I'm ever round Stalybridge way, I may well give you a shout :D

JimH

25-01-2006, 17:58

Sounds like it might still end up being a bit on the large side for a bike with camping gear as well

I reckon I could just fit it on my R1150GS, if I had those big Touratech alloy panniers to give a flat loadspace, and to swallow the ancillary gear, including a lightweight camping rig.

Inferior tinny little non-Bavarian offerings might struggle :p :lmao: , any sort of sportsbike would be screwed. A Dnepr with sidecar would be spot on, or a 'wing with one of those trailers. A big Hardley might cope, but who'd wanna ride it?

However, if I'm ever round Stalybridge way, I may well give you a shout :D

I can be found on Windermere most weekends at the moment, a PM would suffice to organise if the opportunity were to arise...

Jim.

Topcat02

25-01-2006, 19:25

Folding canoe and a GS, hmm might well be worth disposing of the body. I've got an Aprilia RSVR V twin, and theres just enough room for the padlock and chain.

What else have you got lurking in that garage of yours JimH?

Motorbike Man

25-01-2006, 20:57

I guess I might be able to get the long bag across the back of my 900 Diversion with the paniers on

Spacemonkey

29-01-2006, 23:14

we just need a friendly mortitian to help dispose of the body.......
now who do we know that could help.......

Somebody call???

ps, it is very easy, it has been discussed over many cups of tea!

JimH

31-01-2006, 17:20

What else have you got lurking in that garage of yours JimH?

Don't got no steenkin' garage.

Nor garden, hence foldingness of canoe which shares my "spare" bedroom with bike gear, reenactment gear from a previous existence, fishing rods, camping kit and bits of woodwork in varying stages of non-completion.

I'd love to see the look on the "Life Laundry" woman's face if she tried to de-clutter me :eek:

I'm improving. I used to have a dismantled CBX1000 in the attic :lmao:

Jim.

Chance

01-08-2006, 12:48

Is anyone able to point me to a thread comparing folding to inflatable kayaks ? Or, more helpfully, to offer suggestions for a two-seater boat with which to introduce my children to the river(s) ?

Pignut

02-08-2006, 14:06

here you go! (http://www.songofthepaddle.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?p=1335#post1335 )

Chance

02-08-2006, 14:20

Thank you.
I wish that I could say that the choice is narrowing; but (as with most toys), the more I read, the wider it gets. Hardly something about which to complain, though.

R-J

03-08-2006, 10:47

just finished playing with the puffin, i wanted to see if i could get in my 100L pack (saber 60-100). i could, so i thought i'd show you guys who are thinking about a folding boat just how compact/portable they are.

before...
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e74/chonad/a83657f6.jpg

after...
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e74/chonad/67e8b12e.jpg

i wanted to do this so i could, possibly, start kayaking on me' bike! i'll let you's know if it works!

for those of you who havent seen it (not many i know), here's a shot of it ready to rock
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e74/chonad/5af59b90.jpg

Wayland

30-10-2006, 16:40

I got one at last.

Folding Canoe from ebay (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=012&item=220041215152&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1)

Looks like it will need a bit of attention but I hope I can fix anything that needs it.

Watch out the Viking's got a boat.......http://www.britishblades.com/forums/images/smilies/viking.gif

Doc

30-10-2006, 20:45

I think you got a very good deal there. They are pretty expensive new.

I understand the Ally canoes are very good in white water, especially solo.

Graham_S

30-10-2006, 20:53

will there be a dragons head on the prow?
;)

gregorach

30-10-2006, 21:37

That really is a good deal! You lucky devil! :)

Wayland

30-10-2006, 23:17

I've got to patch it up a bit so I think a Dragon's head will be a must too.

What it really needs is a big Square sail and a fair wind whenever it is hoisted..... Oh and a pouch.. ;)

(In Norse mythology, Skíðblaðnir (the name can be anglicized as Skídbladnir, Skídhbladhnir, Skíthblathnir, Skidbladnir, Skithblathnir or Skidhbladhnir) is the ship of Freyr. The ship was made by Dvalin and his brothers, dwarves and sons of Ívaldi. It was made at the request of Loki, and was given to Freyr as part of Loki's reparation for the theft of Sif's golden hair. The ship was big enough to hold the whole of the host of Asgard, and whenever the sails were hoisted, a fair wind followed. It could travel over both land and sea. According to the Ynglinga saga, Skíðblaðnir was made by so many parts and with such ingenuity that it could be folded like a cloth and carried in one's pouch.) wikepedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sk%C3%AD%C3%B0bla%C3%B0nir)

Bushman_Brett

31-10-2006, 00:40

these things look perfect for my traveling aswell, looking into it its possible to make these depending on your skills

http://robroy.dyndns.info/pakyak/

http://yostwerks.com/MainMenu.html

DavidW

31-10-2006, 04:51

Chance,

You might find something of interest in the reviews of various types of boats, rigid, inflatable , folding- canoes and kayaks , found at this link
http://www.paddling.net/Reviews/

I have a pakboats 150 with both the two seat frames and the sole seat frame. I've not used it much as I more often paddle one of my folding kayaks . But I have gone out on a lake with my son in it and it worked fine. Another child could fit with no problem. I have a klepper AE2 which easily has the load capacity to take three but the seating arrangement would make it not the best choice. I also have a Feathercraft Java airline inflatable with the two seat option which works well with two people but not three. My other folders are all solo kayaks.

For those interested in inflatables. An acquaintance has an Innova Safari , which he likes quit well and has used it on extended trips to Mexico. But he is a mimimalist type . I think his review may be on the above web site. The Safari is a solo boat but the point I am trying to get to is that in general I have read good reports on the Innova boats and they make doubles. The Innova line maybe know by a different name in Europe , unfortunately the name excapes me at the moment. Here is a direct link to the Innova reviews on the above web site.

http://www.paddling.net/Reviews/showKayaks.html?manf=66

Here is a link to a commercial site in Calif. - not trying to get business for them - I am posting it only because the site has a lot of good information.
http://www.theboatpeople.com/iks_tandem.html
http://www.theboatpeople.com/faqs.html

hope this is of interest or help.

Best regards,

David

Is anyone able to point me to a thread comparing folding to inflatable kayaks ? Or, more helpfully, to offer suggestions for a two-seater boat with which to introduce my children to the river(s) ?

Chance

31-10-2006, 09:32

Thank you.
Since first posting, I am now the contented paddler of an inflatable (Gumotex Helios). It's already proved the advantages of its packability: in a spare hour while the children were sledging near the feet of Cairngorm, I was able to lug it out of the cramped boot of the car for a trip around a mirror-like Loch Morlich.
And I've even had a chance to test the patch kit, after misjudging the shallows under a bridge on an earlier excursion.

(sledges with caterpillar tracks, lest you question the weather)

DavidW

01-11-2006, 08:05

Chance ,

Glad to hear you found a boat which suits your needs, and to learn I was not far off the mark in suggesting the Innova line of inflatable boats. Gumotex is the name I was trying to recall in my previous post which is the same as the Innova line sold in the USA. . Gumotex is the Czeck Republic company which makes the Innova boats. If I had looked alitte further on the boatpeople web page , under touring IKs , I would have found the reference to Gumotex under the story about the Solar 2 boats which they recieved at Innova due to a misunderstanding in a placed order.

http://www.theboatpeople.com/iks_touring.html

Which of the two Helios models did you buy , the 380 or the 340 ? I still think about these boats myself , especially the Safari , as they pack away in such a small package.

Pics of the Helios - if anyone would like to see them of Chance's choice of inflatable
http://www.innovakayak.com/helios.htm
http://www.innovakayak.com/helios2.htm

I have a copy of Kira Salak's book about her trip down the Niger River in an Innova/Gumotex Safari . Her journey was covered in a National Geographic story a few years ago but sadly her book is only text and has none of the NG photos in it. http://www.innovakayak.com/news.htm
I've not read the book yet but I have read her first book about her travels through Africa and in Papua New Guinea, a gutsy gal who has gotten into some situations which could have cost her life. Her first book was not about travel by boat though.

Best regards,

David

[QUOTE=Chance]Thank you.
Since first posting, I am now the contented paddler of an inflatable (Gumotex Helios). .....QUOTE]

Chance

01-11-2006, 08:38

Sorry, it was a bit rude of me to refer to Gumotex without adding the US translation [Innova].
There was an intimidatingly large choice of inflatables, and I chose the 380 as an "award winner" and apparent choice of Canadian professionals. It has stably held me and two six-year-olds; but the draught increases with added weight, especially locally to the backside if you've skimped on pumping (hence the patch).
Should anyone else be tempted by the car-boot-ability [trunk-ability] of a two-man [person] inflatable, I would recommend the use of the optional rudder.

Ryan Woods

02-11-2006, 16:28

http://www.songofthepaddle.co.uk/jimh.jpg

wow... lookin at the pic I would not have thought it was a collapseable canoe.. beautiful!

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/RyanWoods/P9100046.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/RyanWoods/P7130357.jpg

I bought this last summer, second hand. After some haggling got it for 85 quiddies!! Love it, light, fast yet I can keep in a straight line effortlessly

So when the lastest issue came through the door I was well happy seeing a article about paddling. I thought it was spot on!

Chance

02-11-2006, 16:38

Can't compete with that for looks: there's no question that mine is an ambitious lilo.
I don't expect to be winning any races (or concours d'elegance).

Ryan Woods

02-11-2006, 16:44

thanks... Id like to re paint it in colours with blending properties. Add some closed eye screws for cross bungees to add gear and Im good to go!

gregorach

02-11-2006, 16:50

Oy! That's not a canoe, it's a kayak! ;) :)

Ryan Woods

02-11-2006, 16:58

:lmao::D

Yeah but I'd race any of you canoeists out there, any day! ;) :nana:

Actually, I'd prefer to have a canoe, but the price differnce was too steep...!!

Chance

02-11-2006, 17:30

Am I the only one with the Hawaii-5-0 music in my head, or is that a generational thing ?

Wayland

06-11-2006, 23:22

OK, quick update.

I got the parcels on Saturday, one of the paddles was damaged in transit but not too bad.

The frame has seen some action but the skin looks very good.

There are three holes. Two very minor wear marks on starboard and the main one on the bow. The bow hole will be the tricky fix because it is where the skin is stretched by the bow rib. I think it will fix OK though.

There is a piece of spare matching hyperlon included which will be very useful.

The interesting issue is the plastic guides that the seller has removed. This means there is currently nothing to space the longitudinal ribs correctly. I have some ideas how to go about this but clever suggestions would be very welcome.

The previous owner has added some plywood deck boards which space out the lateral frame with cable ties. It's an interesting way of doing things but not the way I would have done it.

There are no seats present apart from an inflatable affair. Since most of the books I have read suggest kneeling I guess that's what I shall be doing for the time being. I think I shall have to come up with some other option in the long term though.

I'm certainly glad I made the purchase though, even with the bits that need fixing it seems like a good deal for me.... :D

gregorach

07-11-2006, 10:12

Given the new price of an Ally canoe, and the fact that they almost never come up secodn hand, I think you got an amazing deal.

Concerning the seat, you might want to look at a sling seat. I kneel, but I like to have something to perch on, and the sling seat seems like a good compromise.

Grooveski

07-11-2006, 12:07

Yeah, nice buy Wayland. Great price.

Another option for seating could be a foam WW saddle glued to one of those flooring panels, just to take some weight off your knees.

Happy paddling. :)

DavidW

08-11-2006, 16:57

A four page article which may be of interest. It is written by Alv Elvestad of Pakboats , his thoughts or tips on skin and frame repair when damage occours on the water. Specific to Pakboats of course but as he states tips which would in general apply to any al tube frame/pvc skin boat.

http://www.kanadier.gps-info.de/b-reparatur_tipps.pdf

Yes, it is a german language web page, but the pdf file is 99.5% in english.

best regards,

David

OK, quick update.
.........
The frame has seen some action but the skin looks very good.

There are three holes. .............

I'm certainly glad I made the purchase though, even with the bits that need fixing it seems like a good deal for me.... :D

molerat

25-04-2007, 23:45

Hi

So impressed by what people were saying that I've just bought myself a Puffin second hand. One minor problem though: No assembly instructions! Could you let me know how to put it together to avoid me straining my brain?

Wayland

26-04-2007, 08:05

Many thanks to Fisherben for these photos but here is mine after the repairs , first time on the water.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u240/fishaben/GaryWaylandinhiscanoe.jpg

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u240/fishaben/GaryWaylandinhiscanoe2.jpg

I mastered the art of traveling in circles very quickly and I'm starting to get the hang of travelling in straightish lines too.... :D