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familne
21-04-2005, 17:46
Just noticed this is not on in Scotland tonight - anybody know when it is?

:( another month I see, well that's just not fair :(

JFW
21-04-2005, 21:46
familne,

sorry I'm a bit late in replying but if you have sky you can catch it on bbc2 england or ireland.

See this thread for further info.


http://www.bushcraftuk.com/community/showthread.php?p=78806&posted=1#post78806

Cheers

JFW

allanscot
21-04-2005, 22:03
It starts on the 4th May up here :(

Gary
21-04-2005, 22:24
Well guys your in for a treat!

After the disappointment of the first series I have to say I loved every minute of this one.

falcon
21-04-2005, 22:35
Fascinating from start to finish - not much to be negative about on this occasion...Glued (or resined ??) to it for the full hour....incredible skills, "1st Nation Culture" in your sitting room, we can't expect much more from 21st century television....the next best thing to being there and having a go ourselves.

tenbears10
21-04-2005, 22:43
That is what the whole series should have been like IMO. I can't wait for the other episodes. :)

gillmacca
22-04-2005, 06:57
Just to add my bit.
I think it was excellent. Just the sort of thing we bushcrafters have been hoping and waiting for.
Even though I won't be going out to make a canoe, it gave you many things that can be used in other areas of bushrcaft (resin, roots into rope).
Just hoping the rest of the series is just as good.

Well done, Ray Mears

Squidders
22-04-2005, 08:54
top marks Mr Mears... Great program, I hope the rest can maintain the brilliance of last nights episode.

I want a birch bark canoe now... and how about those fur traders ones? massive.

Paganwolf
22-04-2005, 10:34
Awesome, why oh why did my dad come over here from canada :( , ive bought his first half of the new series on DVD and have re watched it and see it in a very different light now, this program was great and the end product beautiful, I cant even begin to imagine how he felt when it hit the water and he got in it for the first time, "Sigh" Top marks here. ;)

bambodoggy
22-04-2005, 11:57
Guys,

as I said over on BB I fell asleep half way through the program last night (due to being very tired and not due to the show!)...I'll watch the rest tonight but what I saw was fantastic... I'd been toying with a birch bark canoe for a few months now but cost is stopping me....

Anyway, here's a couple of interesting links, one for making them and one for buying them....enjoy: (The buying price does seem very reasonable to me).

http://www.squeedunk.com/building.htm

http://www.cyberus.ca/%7Ejriver/

MartiniDave
22-04-2005, 12:30
Michael & I both thoroughly enjoyed it from start to finish. As Mike went off to bed afterwards he was muttering something about "Granny's got a big cedar in her yard..." That'll test his GB pocket axe!

I think net week is a trip in open canoes.

Cheers,

Dave

steve a
22-04-2005, 13:31
The price these guys are asking is a lot less than I have seen elsewhere, who's going to be the first to ask about shipping costs?

Gary
22-04-2005, 13:41
if only I had somewhere to keep one.

Still I'll settle for a few evenings out on the lakes in Sweden in June - maybe after that I'll try talking SWMBO into my ned for one!!

Huon
22-04-2005, 13:46
if only I had somewhere to keep one.

Still I'll settle for a few evenings out on the lakes in Sweden in June - maybe after that I'll try talking SWMBO into my ned for one!!

Did you miss an 'e' or type a 'n' rather than a 'b' in that last sentence?

Gary
22-04-2005, 14:01
Did you miss an 'e' or type a 'n' rather than a 'b' in that last sentence?


Smarty pants --- ok it was need for one, never get one in my bed .............

jamesdevine
22-04-2005, 16:45
Now have imagine in my head thats just plan scary :eek:

James

Eric_Methven
22-04-2005, 22:23
It was the stitching method that I learned most from, basically a saddle stitch using split roots. I hadn't figured out how two panels of birch bark were joined before. Now I can try and make a birch bark coracle, that should be easier and cheaper than trying a canoe, and if it works, move on to a canoe next year.

Eric

CLEM
24-04-2005, 21:08
Fantastic,enjoyed every second of it.I was glued to the tv,the thing what strikes me with Ray Mears is that he is able to comunicate his obvious love and enjoyment of his subject material.You could see how much he was enjoying what he was doing.

Moonraker
28-04-2005, 19:28
Just a reminder that it starts at 8pm this evening (Thursday). This one focuses on canoeing through Canada and looks good :)

Tony
28-04-2005, 21:03
It was good :D

Moonraker
28-04-2005, 21:15
...............very good :D and what a good partnership with canoe ace, Ray 'Smiley' Goodwin. What a star :) Just left me aching for more...

tomtom
28-04-2005, 21:18
arruugg! did anyone tape it i missed the first half hour!??

the bit i saw i thought was really great, best yet i would say i really enjoyed him traveling with a companion he seemed a lot more jovial, really enjoyed watching the other guy get fire by friction remembering that un-containable pleasure!

good show raymond!

innocent bystander
28-04-2005, 21:19
So i went to check my handiwork on the vcr, fully expecting to see the two rays, and what did i get ?
One hour of michael howard. :(

Stew
28-04-2005, 21:22
He's getting better. :D

When I was younger, his shows gave me enough. Now I still like them but need a bit more.

It's as if he's reading my mind!

Ahjno
29-04-2005, 07:59
I absolutely loved this episode, and consider it the best of the whole series! Wicked & smashing my little sister would say :D

Surprised nobody mentioned:
- the click thingie for the fireflash ...
- the other Ray had a Woodlore knife ... (clearly visible by the sheath)
- the real Ray :D ;) had a Mora knife (as a spare) on top of his life jacket :eek: ...
- the availability of CD's / singles by Ray ;)

Tony
29-04-2005, 08:17
Surprised nobody mentioned:

- the availability of CD's / singles by Ray ;)

Ummm, there's always a chance :D

Womble
29-04-2005, 08:38
Coming soon from Bushcraft Records:
Ray Mears pays tribute to S-Club 7!

MartiniDave
29-04-2005, 08:41
Fan-bloomin-tastic!
Made all the more so because I spent most of wednesday evening struggling to paddle a modern canadian canoe along the river cam. They made it look so easy, Ray M's boat seemed to be almost a living creature, dancing on the water compared to the tupperware bath-tub I tried.
The bannock recipe looks nice and straight forward too.
I liked the blend of traditional and modern amongst Rays kit. I'll be having a go at making one of those neat folding saws.

Cheers
Dave

hootchi
29-04-2005, 09:12
Legend. I was a brilliant show but i really am going to have to stop watching them- now i want to build a canoe and paddle one. :)

jdlenton
29-04-2005, 09:15
I really liked that saw too and fancy having a go at making one is it a historical piece or is it a modern idea?

He had his food stuff in some really nice leather bags I’d quite like a couple of those any body notice them too?

Womble
29-04-2005, 09:21
The bags were nice - as were the ziplock plastic bags within!

hootchi
29-04-2005, 09:25
I really liked that saw too and fancy having a go at making one is it a historical piece or is it a modern idea?
The prospector canoe is an old design still popular today. There has been some talk of it on the selway fisher canoe thread and roving rich made on himeself. :cool:


He had his food stuff in some really nice leather bags I’d quite like a couple of those any body notice them too?
i noticed them aswell but i also noticed he had ziplock plastic bags insidew them aswell- the voyageurs would have had to put up with damp flour. :)

Can't wait till next week...

bbc.co.uk listings

Ray Mears' Bushcraft
Thu 5 May, 8:00 pm - 9:00 pm 60mins

Riding into America's past and travelling to the Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem where cars are banished, Ray's in the footsteps of Jim Bridger, one of the mountain men responsible for finding a path across the continental divide that was suitable for wagon trains.

From a real life mountain man to the Shoshone who've lived there for centuries, Ray explores the skills needed to live in this remote environment; from making a boat out of willow and buffalo skin, to preserving meat and berries.

mal
29-04-2005, 09:26
ye loved the food bags anyone got a link were to get them the iner ones and the leather ones and while im at it what was the clip thing for the fire steel ?????????????

jdlenton
29-04-2005, 09:32
hootchi i wasn't on about the canoe (i,m just about to order a set of plans) i was on about the folding frame saw;) looks 1600/1700's to me

hootchi
29-04-2005, 09:35
hootchi i wasn't on about the canoe (i,m just about to order a set of plans) i was on about the folding frame saw;) looks 1600/1700's to me
sorry mate i didnt read properly. i wondered what you were refering to. good luck with the canoe. :cool: let us know how it goes

Womble
29-04-2005, 09:54
ye loved the food bags anyone got a link were to get them the iner ones and the leather ones and while im at it what was the clip thing for the fire steel ?????????????

It looked like a strong magnetic clip to me - a keyring type thing?

mal
29-04-2005, 10:01
dont no .........He has always got good little bits of kit i saw in another program he had a realy little shaving brush iv looked for one but no luck.

MartiniDave
29-04-2005, 10:12
I think the clip-thing on the firesteel can be got either from fishing shops of key-cutting shoe repair type kiosks.
I was quite taken by the leather baggies too - I'll bet they were hand made for or by Ray.

Dave

MartiniDave
29-04-2005, 10:22
Plans for a similar saw can be found here

http://www.geocities.com/plybench/bowsaw.html

Have fun!

jdlenton
29-04-2005, 10:36
Thanks Dave :) my work blocks geocities so i'll have a look when i get home stupid web filtering means i cant get a blade and some wood on my way home :( James:D

Celtic Dragon
29-04-2005, 11:13
It looked like a strong magnetic clip to me - a keyring type thing?

The keyreings look like a spark plug. You press the top, and it releases a plunger inside, causung 2 ball bearings to release from a groove allowing the 2 halfs to come apart. I havent seen them in ages though.

I was looking at the rescue knife Ray had on his BA, I'm not sure it was a mora though.

ranger
29-04-2005, 11:28
Last nights was a great show, far more akin to the type of stuff he used to do on Tracks. I wish they’d release all those snippets on a DVD.

Has any one else noticed, but Ray seems to of given up using a neck sheath in his recent programmes, and carries his knife belt mounted. I always thought he was against wearing a knife on your belt as you are far more aware were the knife is if it is around your neck/shoulder.

Womble
29-04-2005, 11:41
one thing: when Ray was doing the friction firelighting sequence, was there a bit of a clumsy edit? He seemed to be in the middle of a sentence as he started talking about putting the ball of kindling into the birchbark.

Stuart
29-04-2005, 12:02
missed it :(

Gail
29-04-2005, 13:06
I was gripped !

But, felt my heart go out to the other guy with his friction shananigans - that's me that is !!!!

Liked the comment about the s club 7 re-mix Womble ?! :D

JimH
29-04-2005, 15:14
It looked like a strong magnetic clip to me - a keyring type thing?

You can get 'em from fly fishing outlets, ISTR. Used for landing nets, viz:

http://www.carlsons.co.uk/shop/page46.htm

Item "C & F Magnetic Net Releaser"

for example...

Jim.

Womble
29-04-2005, 15:21
I was gripped !


Liked the comment about the s club 7 re-mix Womble ?! :D

you just wait until his next series:

Ray Mears' World of Extreme Sports - where Ray demonstrates how to make cordage, bush shelters and bannocks whilst performing really def moves on a skatebaord - to the sound of some huge choons...

Ahjno
29-04-2005, 15:50
missed it :(

Hope you've learnt your lesson ;) :D ;)


I was looking at the rescue knife Ray had on his BA, I'm not sure it was a mora though.

Just had a look ... again ... :D (got it on tape :p ) Looks very much like a Mora / Frost thingie, but have to admit it's bearly visible - and that safety knife is, in our (this) case ... , not an issue of life and death.

Looking forward to next week :D :cool:

Stew
29-04-2005, 17:48
The keyreings look like a spark plug. You press the top, and it releases a plunger inside, causung 2 ball bearings to release from a groove allowing the 2 halfs to come apart. I havent seen them in ages though.
.


I think it was one of these.

Key-mate (http://www.keyosk.co.uk/pr_key-accessories-key-releases-keymate-key-ring-release-70701-603-70725.shtml)

Good and simple idea really.

falcon
30-04-2005, 01:04
Only just caught up with this week's episode (my lad video'd it for me) and was well impressed......I don't suppose I'm ever likely to experience a canoe trip like that and from an armchair perspective it was fantastic. The programme also got right to the heart of skills to which we all aspire. Whatever criticism some earlier episodes received, this one was right up there (IMO) with Belaraus, The Rockies and one or two more. Hope it continues in this vein.

Elliott
30-04-2005, 08:44
This episode for me was a pure pleasure to watch - perfect location, topics, skills, company and to top it all based around a canoeing theme. Some of the philosophical points/asides were exactly spot on with elements of my thinking - a truly inspirational episode.

Elliott

GrahamD
30-04-2005, 11:23
One of the best programmes he's done - I felt every moment of the bow drilling, the frustrations and the joy of finally succeeding.

Brilliant to see the skills of the white water paddlers in use - how cool was the surfing of the wave :D

We've been talking for some while about what the missus and I are going to do for our Silver wedding bash in a couple of years - The Canoe Museum in Ontario plus some paddling is now starting to look favourite - If only they could get rid of the mozzies (they just love my exposed bits, but at least it means they eat me and not SWMBO ;)

Now, where was that bit of cedar and my axe.......

Graham

Beer Monster
04-05-2005, 17:38
Just a quick reminder for all those people north of the border ........ Mr Mears new series starts tonight on Scottish TV ....... 8pm BBC 2. :)

Snufkin
04-05-2005, 18:23
Hmmm, bannock (again) bowdrill (again) Baker tent (again).
The canoe bloke was very impressive and I did enjoy the paddle making.

Womble
05-05-2005, 07:54
Hmmm, bannock (again) bowdrill (again) Baker tent (again).
The canoe bloke was very impressive and I did enjoy the paddle making.

or to put it another way...

"Hmmm, bannock (which I know about, but 99.9% of the audiance probably don't) bowdrill (which I know about and use, but 99.9% of the audiance probably don't) Baker tent (which I've seen before, but, but 99.9% of the audiance probably haven't)"! :D

donkeyporge
05-05-2005, 09:25
Anyone got a lead on those great little leather pouches?

Snufkin
05-05-2005, 19:14
or to put it another way...

"Hmmm, bannock (which I know about, but 99.9% of the audiance probably don't) bowdrill (which I know about and use, but 99.9% of the audiance probably don't) Baker tent (which I've seen before, but, but 99.9% of the audiance probably haven't)"! :D
They'd know about it if they'd watched any of his other series.

spamel
05-05-2005, 21:28
How much can he do that hasn't already been seen? If it was all new stuff, he'd maybe only get half the programmes in the series, and probably not do another. I don't mind a bit of revision, in fact, I just wouldn't mind seeing the new series.

Come on postie, bring me my DVD, I'm dying to see the first programmes from Bushcraft!! (Now I have to wait till the next DVD comes out to see the birchbark canoe, then I'll understand some of the threads here!!)

Snufkin
05-05-2005, 22:28
How much can he do that hasn't already been seen? If it was all new stuff, he'd maybe only get half the programmes in the series, and probably not do another. I don't mind a bit of revision, in fact, I just wouldn't mind seeing the new series.

Come on postie, bring me my DVD, I'm dying to see the first programmes from Bushcraft!! (Now I have to wait till the next DVD comes out to see the birchbark canoe, then I'll understand some of the threads here!!)
Revision is fine, I agree but perhaps if he'd approached it from a different angle maybe if he showed the guy how to make a bowdrill kit, with natural cordage? He could have cooked the bread spiralled on a green stick? OK maybe it's just being different for different's sake but for non bushcrafters or those just getting interested it's good to see varied techniques.

hootchi
06-05-2005, 09:08
This is what is on next week. Looks good. :cool:

Ray Mears' Bushcraft
Thu 12 May, 8:00 pm - 9:00 pm 60mins

Sweden

Sweden is the land where the ancient skills of bushcraft are alive and well and in daily use. They refer to nature as 'The Nature' and a good knowledge of the outdoors is commonplace.

Ray creates a meal of berries and fish for good friend Lars Falt, and sees how pine tar is produced and uses it for the traditional skis that are made for him.

In the north Ray spends time with the Sami in sub zero temperatures, learning about their folklore and undertaking a journey by dog sled through this magical landscape where every fall of snow seems to bring the chance of a new start.
BBC 2 listings

ScanDgrind
06-05-2005, 11:52
I've really enjoyed this series so far. I't's been much better than the last one. The building of the birch bark canoe was superb. Paddling down the Canadian river by canoe was superb. And last nights episode riding through the mountain pass in the rockies has been a life long ambition for me and so to get a glimpse of what it would be like was superb.

I think Ray has packed in a serious amount of bushcraft into this series, yes perhaps a couple of things have been repeated but he's also shown a large amount of new stuff, which has not been covered in any of his other series. Now don't get me wrong it may not be new to you and some things may not be new to me, but I still enjoy the fact that bushcraft is being represented on TV and as far as I'm concerned if the show manages to get just one new person interested enough in bushcraft to get off their backside and outdoors then great.

You know there's been lots of complaints over the years about Rays shows from us bushcraft practitioners. We seem to forget that the show is not aimed solely at us. The show has to make money at the end of the day and I guess to do that it has to appeal to a wider audience and it seems to be doing that. Hell my Mum and Dad watch the show avidly, but you'd never catch my mother sleeping in a debri shelter :D .

Anyway I'm off to make some boring ol bannock over a boring ol campfire and I'm gonna put some boring ol olives and cheese in it for a change :D .

Cheers,

Tony

Not Bob
06-05-2005, 12:04
Must agree. Much improved from the last series. My only complaint and it's one I've heard from other people I know is that it's a bit slow. Personally I'd agree that last night's was a bit drawn out but the others were just right for the nature of each prog. Still, each to their own. Does anyone know what the viewing figures have been?

jamesdevine
06-05-2005, 12:33
Yes I really have enjoyed this series.

One think I like about is it there is a lot of humour in it and it's more relaxed. Sitting around campfire talking and the like it almost makes you feel like your there sitting on log behind the camera.

I like his comment about the bushcraft you learn in the back garden can be used any where in the world (sounds familar ;) ). Sound track to last night was cool as well.

Anyway roll on next week.

James

sodajoe
06-05-2005, 16:10
I really have been taken by Ray's new series – it's fantastic. It does seem to be geared towards a broader audience with less emphasis on the skills of bushcraft.

But the locations and topics he has brought together have been top drawer. Who, after watching this series, would not want to go through those mountain passes on horseback or paddle downstream in one of those fantastic canoes – canvas or brich?

I love this series so much that I have decided to buy the book – which I have criticised in the past for not developing bushcraft skills at the rate I would like.

In my opinion, what makes this series work is the desire it creates for people like us to get up and go out there to enjoy the Great Outdoors.

Keep it up Ray.

MalIrl
06-05-2005, 16:26
You know there's been lots of complaints over the years about Rays shows from us bushcraft practitioners. We seem to forget that the show is not aimed solely at us. The show has to make money at the end of the day and I guess to do that it has to appeal to a wider audience and it seems to be doing that. Hell my Mum and Dad watch the show avidly, but you'd never catch my mother sleeping in a debri shelter :D .


I have to agree! When I first saw Ray over 7 years ago on Country Tracks it awoke in me something that I'd left dormant since my early teens (skills/interests learnt from Scouts and two survival books that my Dad got me once when I was about ten).

Over the years since, I've been watching the shows with my kids, and have started to teach them the basics when I can. The shows are digestible by a wide audience (especially youngsters), but more importantly, they show that things such as fire-bows DO work in a way that no survival manual can. I have not come near to mastering many of the techniques that Ray has shown (feather sticks and withies being my current projects) but watching those shows keeps up the motivation, because I know it is only a matter of practise. I suppose that makes me tolerate the repetitive stuff more than others.

Good stuff, Ray! Bringing bushcraft to a wider audience....

Mal

arctic hobo
06-05-2005, 16:52
Sweden

Sweden is the land where the ancient skills of bushcraft are alive and well and in daily use. They refer to nature as 'The Nature' and a good knowledge of the outdoors is commonplace.

Ray creates a meal of berries and fish for good friend Lars Falt, and sees how pine tar is produced and uses it for the traditional skis that are made for him.

In the north Ray spends time with the Sami in sub zero temperatures, learning about their folklore and undertaking a journey by dog sled through this magical landscape where every fall of snow seems to bring the chance of a new start.
That will be good - IMO he does too much in the Americas, nice to see this part of the world on our screens :)

Fallow Way
06-05-2005, 17:13
plus, who here can do better? I know i cant for sure.

we may have out opinions, the bbc theirs, ray his, the wider public theirs, frankly, we are sort of the safe bet who dont have to be thought of too much, we are hooked, anything and everything bushcraft i love to read nad watch, even if i have before, you never stop learning, it is those poeple who dont even look up at the tree they pass on their way to their job that need to be caught and I very very much doubt there is a better program or person to do it than Ray.

hootchi
06-05-2005, 17:42
...One think I like about is it there is a lot of humour in it and it's more relaxed. Sitting around campfire talking and the like it almost makes you feel like your there sitting on log behind the camera....
I really agree with you there James. I think that helps to make the program. One of my favourite episodes is in new england in search of Robert Rogers. We get to see the whole crew and they are all mucking in. :cool:

Snufkin
06-05-2005, 18:13
Anyway I'm off to make some boring ol bannock over a boring ol campfire and I'm gonna put some boring ol olives and cheese in it for a change :D .

Cheers,

Tony
Hold the olives :D

Fallow Way
06-05-2005, 18:47
i`m really really looking forward to the sweden one. Very good result on the fishing front.

gillmacca
07-05-2005, 06:42
While I wait for Tony to get back to me on the tv calendar, here is what we can look forward to in the new series after next week

Date: Thursday 19th May 2005
Four Seasons. Ray Mears explores the world of bushcraft, the art of living outdoors relying on a knowledge of the natural world. Ray returns to Britain to show how a knowledge of bushcraft sheds new light on every aspect of the changing seasons. He points out the foods and plants that are available, from pig nuts to lime leaves, and shows how bushcraft helps us to see animals in their natural habitats.

The following week seems to have the chelsea flower show in this slot, and I cant find it on any over day/time.
Currently this is as far as my listings go, but if I get more, I will let you know

Bagheera
07-05-2005, 08:54
Hi gang,

I really enjoyed the "Yellowstone" show and as we just bought one of these DVD recorders with a hard disk on the side, I recorded the show on the HD in best quality and burning it to the DVD was easy and quick and I now can watch the show whenever I want :)

I particualrly liked that Jake guy, one can only hope to get to his age and still be in his mental and physical condition.

I don't know if you noticed or perhaps it's only me but when Ray was getting the pine stumps from the fallen pine tree he was breathing very "heavy" like he just ran a distance, must be the good life ;)

Cheers,

Bagheera

Snufkin
07-05-2005, 18:06
Bagheera, don't be too hard on Ray for puffing and panting, he was up in the Rockies. That's some fair altitude.
Gillmacca, I think the British episode is the last one of the series. That'll be the fifth, and there were five in the last run.

hootchi
07-05-2005, 19:17
Bagheera, don't be too hard on Ray for puffing and panting, he was up in the Rockies. That's some fair altitude.
Gillmacca, I think the British episode is the last one of the series. That'll be the fifth, and there were five in the last run.
If with you there Snufkin- twice, I think it may be the camera men puffing aswell. :cool:

Bob
08-05-2005, 17:52
The altitude does take a few days to get used too!!

I was up in the (Colorado) Rockies a few years back and for the first few couple of days even a short run left me breathless!!! Good job I didn't meet a bear until the second week :D !

It's great when you get back to sea-level though - you feel like Superman!

Bob :)

2blackcat
08-05-2005, 21:58
According to the book that's the last chapter so I would assume that's the last episode in the series too


Steve

giancarlo
12-05-2005, 14:12
New one on tonight.

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Ray Mears' Bushcraft

8:00pm - 9:00pm
BBC2

VIDEO Plus+: 8021
Subtitled, Widescreen, Audio-described

4/5 - Sweden

Ray Mears explores the world of bushcraft, the art of living outdoors relying on a knowledge of the natural world. Ray is in Sweden, where the ancient skills of Bushcraft are alive and well and in daily use. He creates a meal of berries and fish for good friend Lars Falt, then sees how pine tar is produced and uses it for the traditional skis that are made for him. In the north, Ray spends time with the Sami in sub zero temperatures.
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Fallow Way
12-05-2005, 21:07
I thoroughly enjoyed that episode. I have had the privilage to meet and learn from Lars and Brit-Marie and it has made me yearn for my in-planning trip back to Sweden even more.

Gary
12-05-2005, 21:14
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v342/bearclaw/sweden1014.jpg

Now where did I see this before?

Role on June!

innocent bystander
12-05-2005, 21:20
Did anyone catch the name of the sami folk singer ?

Tony
12-05-2005, 21:22
It was a good episode, he squeezed quite a bit into it which kept the pace moving well and it showed some good stuff, I liked the split log fire, that was excellent.
I’m surprised Lars hadn’t seen the fish cooked that way before ;)
This is a good series, lots to get people thinking and lots of nice little snippets for people to enjoy :D

Mutley
12-05-2005, 21:30
I agree greatly.

I also want to know the name of the folk singer.

I thought the construction of the knifes handle was stunning to watch!

Moonraker
12-05-2005, 21:32
It was a good episode, he squeezed quite a bit into it which kept the pace moving well and it showed some good stuff, I liked the split log fire, that was excellent.
I’m surprised Lars hadn’t seen the fish cooked that way before ;)
This is a good series, lots to get people thinking and lots of nice little snippets for people to enjoy :D
Agree with you there Tony :)

It may not be so surprising Lars may not have seen it before as 'panassing' like Ray demonstrated tonight originates from North America traditionally (certainly the name does). I think more traditionally they would have done something similar to the way still used by the Fins called 'Loimulohi' or nailed salmon, (a wooden board with the fish nailed to it, originally with wooden nails). Here is a photo showing it:

http://virtual.finland.fi/finfo/images/food/gastr9_b.jpg

source:The gastronomy of finland (http://virtual.finland.fi/netcomm/news/showarticle.asp?intNWSAID=2606 3#fish)

I am sure many different ways to cook fish like this have been used the world over ;)

Another wonderful programme where he really expressed well his real love for these peoples , skills and places.

Ogri the trog
12-05-2005, 23:04
At last,
I got to see an episode without the "fizz-pop" of a dodgy video recorder :(
The last few have been a real struggle to make any sense out of as they popped and crackled through the TV. I can't wait till the series comes out on DVD with the extra footage for us bush-nuts.
I could have watched tha knife forging piece for hours, but the whole programme was great - I'll even get to see next weeks episode in real time as well (damned shift work).

ATB

Ogri the trog

quarterstaff
12-05-2005, 23:13
That was one of the best hours tv i have ever seen,that ray needs a medal the size of an ash bin lid :D

Viking
12-05-2005, 23:53
Agree with you there Tony :)

It may not be so surprising Lars may not have seen it before as 'panassing' like Ray demonstrated tonight originates from North America traditionally (certainly the name does). I think more traditionally they would have done something similar to the way still used by the Fins called 'Loimulohi' or nailed salmon, (a wooden board with the fish nailed to it, originally with wooden nails). Here is a photo showing it:

http://virtual.finland.fi/finfo/images/food/gastr9_b.jpg

source:The gastronomy of finland (http://virtual.finland.fi/netcomm/news/showarticle.asp?intNWSAID=2606 3#fish)

I am sure many different ways to cook fish like this have been used the world over ;)

Another wonderful programme where he really expressed well his real love for these peoples , skills and places.

I think Lars Fält knows how to cook fish this way but he probably prefers the easy way (like most swedes do).

Will be interesting to see this episode in the future, especially since it´s home for me =)

Moonraker
12-05-2005, 23:56
I think Lars Fält knows how to cook fish this way but he probably prefers the easy way (like most swedes do).

Will be interesting to see this episode in the future, especially since it´s home for me =)
I am sure you are right Johan ;) What is the easy way anyhow :)

I forget that you can't see it already... frustrating. Hopefully the DVD will be out soon.

OldJimbo
13-05-2005, 05:13
Cooking fish pegged to a plank made from split log - or held on a lattice of green peeled branches is very common over here in N America. It's really the only way I like my salmon and trout - because despite loving fishing, I'm not fond of fish cooked most ways.
But we learn from each other. There's lots of great ideas coming from all over.

I've spent decades learning the bush here, and so has one of my co-workers. But in all those years we've only been out together once. The amazing thing is that when we sit down to talk, we both learn new things that totally stagger us. What's common simple knowledge to one is a total revelation to the other. It sure brings home the fact that there's so much to know that we'll never do more than scratch the surface.

martin
13-05-2005, 07:12
I think that the second half of the series has been much better than the first. I've been glued to the TV. The canoe trip down the Canadian river was by far the best until last night. Sweden, what a country! Its a place that I have always wanted to visit, now even more so. Well in 4 weeks I'll be there with Gary and Co so you can guess how excited I am now. :D :D

Roll on June, you got that right Gary.

Ahjno
13-05-2005, 07:22
Absolutely briltastic!!!! The eposodes are getting better and better every week :D Enjoyed every moment of it :D Would love to see more of Ray & Lärs together though :D

That split log (seasoned pine) stove was absolutely smart thinking!!
I really can't wait 'till next year to go to Sweden with little Viking, if it's still on by then.

I'm off now :D - got the episode on video ;) :cool:

Moonraker
13-05-2005, 08:14
I've spent decades learning the bush here, and so has one of my co-workers. But in all those years we've only been out together once. The amazing thing is that when we sit down to talk, we both learn new things that totally stagger us. What's common simple knowledge to one is a total revelation to the other. It sure brings home the fact that there's so much to know that we'll never do more than scratch the surface.
Those are very true words Old Jimbo. Maybe it reflects how society has moved away from the tight knit communities of the past where much was learnt from others around. And how, with the help of the internet, we now learn from friends from all over the globe (who's faces we have never seen), perhaps as an instinctive drive to seek this experience out?. Still, so much can be learnt from those close by.

Knowledge is only a question away......

Moonraker
13-05-2005, 22:46
Details of the last episode scheduled for next Thursday. Looks another goodie as he finally returns to the British Isles.


Ray Mears' Bushcraft
Thu 19 May, 8:00 pm - 9:00 pm 60mins

Four Seasons

In the final programme, Ray returns to Britain; the country he was born in, the place that inspired him to take up Bushcraft, and the land that he calls home.

He shows how a knowledge of Bushcraft sheds new light on every aspect of the changing seasons. He points out the foods and plants that are available, from pig nuts to lime leaves, and shows how Bushcraft helps us to see animals in their natural habitats. Whether it's badgers in the south or Red Deer in Scotland, watching our wildlife invokes a feeling of incredible privilege.

hootchi
14-05-2005, 11:02
Looks like it is going to be a good 'un. But I would be hard to beat the one in Sweden. :cool:

Tony
14-05-2005, 11:05
This is the one that many have been waiting for :D It has to be good if he keeps up the standard of showing us stuff and it's in the UK, that's a winning combination!

Snufkin
14-05-2005, 20:01
Just watched the Sweden episode, very enjoyable. That trad ski maker certainly knew how to handle an axe.

Stew
18-05-2005, 18:58
Maybe after tomorrows episode I'll finally manage to find a pig-nut! :D

Graham_S
18-05-2005, 21:17
i just watched the mountain man episode. after the exitement on the forums of the last week, i wonder how many complaints the bbc are going to get after the buffalo hide/trapped beaver segments?

Skippy
18-05-2005, 21:48
lookin forward to this thursdays episode, returning to Britain

Ronin
19-05-2005, 09:45
Double helping tonight. Last in the second series and then at 2.25 am on BBC1 the last prog in the first series as a repeat.

My god..does this mean that the BBC understands scheduling??? :eek: or are the overnight techs big Mearsy fans. :D

Tony
19-05-2005, 09:49
Yeah, tonight’s episode should be good, well I hope it will be! I dare say it will get a lot of people out at the weekend as they'll be able to relate to it more.

Ahjno
19-05-2005, 17:02
My god..does this mean that the BBC understands scheduling??? :eek: or are the overnight techs big Mearsy fans. :D

:D We have influence mate ;)

hootchi
20-05-2005, 14:33
I think that was a good one to end the series on.:cool: The baadger tracking was good, and the sand trap and the birch sap.

Do you think that the woodland last night was Ray's woodland?

innocent bystander
20-05-2005, 14:37
Do you think that the woodland last night was Ray's woodland?

Probably is front lawn :D

hootchi
20-05-2005, 14:47
I think I caught a glimpse of his palace across the other side of the field!:D

I would have been interested if he had answered the question the saami man asked in response to haw many reindeer he owned.:cool: ;)

innocent bystander
20-05-2005, 15:03
Might explain why his gear always looks new. He just throws it away after a trip, and buys new ;)

Mutley
20-05-2005, 15:24
He might have all the gear but he still does a good job with some old Bushcraft skills! The last episode wasn't a good example, but when he went to Cananda was! ;)

stotRE
20-05-2005, 23:54
Might explain why his gear always looks new. He just throws it away after a trip, and buys new ;)

Oh to have BBC funding lol :)
His smocks must be made from moon dust looking at the price of them lol.

Ryan Woods
21-05-2005, 11:06
The next series should concnetrate on his house. Now that would be a survival situation trying to manouvre between al his gear!
Maybe a picture in the next book of EVERYTHING together...

Bagheera
22-05-2005, 11:06
Hi guys,

I'm still looking for a copy of the birch bark canoo making (VHS or DVD/CD?)

Acouple of you asked for a source for the leather bags Ray used for flour/sugar/raisins well I found a place that has nice ones and the price seems OK also even affordable for "normal folk" just go and look at:

http://www.ryggsacken.se/english/index.htm

And chose the "More" and scroll down a bit, you can even get a leather bag for your frying pan ;)

I just would like to know how "big" the first of the coffee bags as.

Best Scouting wishes from Holland,

Bagheera

PS does anybody know where I could buy a real Saami Lasso?

Skippy
22-05-2005, 22:03
14.98 is not a bad price for a real leather pouch....
i did video the canoe episode, but have not had time to view it yet, so dunno if it any good.

Celtic Dragon
22-05-2005, 23:30
Hi guys,

I'm still looking for a copy of the birch bark canoo making (VHS or DVD/CD?)



Hi mate,

You have a pm.

Simon

Beer Monster
02-06-2005, 10:29
Ok ...... north of the border we were a few episodes behind. Last weeks episode (25th May) was the one in Sweden with Lars, skiing, ice fishing etc. That episode was an hour earlier because of the Chelsea Flower show but this week the Mr Mears has disappeared completely ........ it's not on next week either and seems to have been replaced by Spring Watch!

Now don't get me wrong I like Spring Watch (I even met Kate Humble the other day ;) ) but to cut a series off 2 (??) episodes before it's actually finished is out of line :( ! I'm suffering withdrawal symptoms ...... please help ...... can anyone in Scotland clarify the situation? :confused:

VIRULENT SALAMANDER
02-06-2005, 15:10
.... .. Beer Monster!,That's like ripping the last page out of a good book.
That's low

Beer Monster
02-06-2005, 17:48
I know ..... gutted. Still it just means I have an excuse to buy the DVD now (not that I needed one!) :)

VIRULENT SALAMANDER
02-06-2005, 20:32
Och! no, maybe that was the bbc ploy?
no that can't be right we're british.... ..here watch this it will cheer you up!http://www.hugi.is/hahradi/bigboxes.php?box_id=51208&f_id=681......".what was that", "ok the rest of you can have a peek at it to".... .."Enjoy". 20sec's to load!

Snufkin
02-06-2005, 21:10
Ok ...... north of the border we were a few episodes behind. Last weeks episode (25th May) was the one in Sweden with Lars, skiing, ice fishing etc. That episode was an hour earlier because of the Chelsea Flower show but this week the Mr Mears has disappeared completely ........ it's not on next week either and seems to have been replaced by Spring Watch!

Now don't get me wrong I like Spring Watch (I even met Kate Humble the other day ;) ) but to cut a series off 2 (??) episodes before it's actually finished is out of line :( ! I'm suffering withdrawal symptoms ...... please help ...... can anyone in Scotland clarify the situation? :confused:
Kate Humble or Ray Mears, I know who I'd chose :D.