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Doc has come up with the idea of us having a badge that we can put on packs, clothing etc. The idea being that we can identify each other and (my view!) let the world know more about the site
Who would be interested in buying badges, if we get enough interest they will be cheaper the more we buy.
Put your names down, come on hurry up :biggthump
Soundls like a good idea.
Put me down for one - and I expect Mel will want one too.
Make sure they are green tho :wink:
giancarlo
23-12-2003, 14:42
Sounds good.
The idea being that we can identify each other and (my view!) let the world know more about the site
Although we could also use it to avoid each other too ;)
Any ideas for designs etc?
shaggystu
23-12-2003, 15:12
put me down for a couple
stuart
Sounds like a godd idea :super:
MartiniDave
23-12-2003, 16:01
Cool! I'm in.
Good idea - who'll design them etc?
When do we work out the secret hand shake?
Oh and I'm too.
a diffrent outdoorkind of forum is making badge's, already collecing cash for it, i already payed mine. i know a few fellow members who i have seen here too....
i don't mind having another set of badge's, though. I will decide wenn i see the disign and find a way to pay... anyone excepts euro's ?
Put me down for a couple please Tone. :-) 8-)
bigjackbrass
23-12-2003, 20:03
You can add me to the list too, for a couple of them if the price is reasonable (or just the one if it isn't!).
Judging by some of the threads running today I expect the design will have to feature a condom, a tampon and a big knife. And probably a Land Rover.
Celtic Dragon
23-12-2003, 20:57
Stick me down for 1 as well.
Simon
Badge could be a tampon sheep with a condom head and knives as legs being run over by a Lanny!
Anyone know any good badge makers then?
I Just got to have a tampon sheep badge. :-D
Please santa.....
Wayne
bigjackbrass
23-12-2003, 22:51
You know, the really frightening prospect here is that I'm a cartoonist...
I'll have one, sounds a good idea
Brian
I'm in, obviously.
Rough prices for a 2.5" embroidered cloth badge are about £4 each if only 25 ordered, £2.30 each if 50 ordered, £1.60 each if 100 ordered (this froma quick internet search and not definite).
You can have up to seven colours. Hmmmm....green, dark green, olive, greeny-brown........
gurushaun
24-12-2003, 10:53
I'm in for a couple
Cheers
Shaun
You know, the really frightening prospect here is that I'm a cartoonist...
Sounds like a good idea.....
You can add me to the list too, for a couple of them if the price is reasonable (or just the one if it isn't!).
Judging by some of the threads running today I expect the design will have to feature a condom, a tampon and a big knife. And probably a Land Rover.
All poking out the top of a rucksack! :rolmao:
I would be up for one too!
So are we gonna have a "design a badge" competition with a nice prize for the winner?
Sounds cool! Put me down for a couple. :super:
more badges eh? i'll have one too ta!
cheers, and.
Go for it Jack, One to three depending on how many of the facts of life I'll have to explain to my 8 & 10 year old daughters !
Bushcrafty colours preferred.
Ciao, Alick
hmm... after some thinking i might spend a little cash for this, if it is a acceptable design. I don't want to wear badge's with a tampon guy, with a condom "cap" on, on it ! people already think i'm a nutcase !
Agree with PC2K - I'm in for a couple if the design is acceptable.
Excellent idea.
Do you realy need to ask... put me down for a few ;-).... I like the Idea of a design competition.
:-)
Ed
I like the Idea of a design competition.
Ed
Well get designing then!
:lol:
Well what sort of thing do we want on it? (Being serious so no tampons or condoms!) ie axes, saws, fire, knives?
And what's been done by other people for use to avoid?
This is me trying to get inspired while I have the time to think about it!
A mighty fine response so far :biggthump
This is going to be an official badge for bcuk, so, I agree with not having the condom covered sheep smoking tampons badge :mrgreen: The offer by some of you to design the badge is appreciated and well received. It does need to be representative of the site although I know you're a creative bunch! Here are a few of my 'would likes' :f:
The bcuk leaf logo, woodland colours, www.bushcraftuk.co.uk
I have a couple of people that are going to start on designs as well, so between us all we should have a good choice. I have someone with the equipment to take the design from the computer to the embroidery machine so if we get the designs electronically I will get some of them knocked up so we can see what they are like. Well that's the theory!
I know that this may sound a bit mad but if we could have some of the designs in the next three weeks they could be very useful for a project we are working on. Happy designing and good luck.
Tone
PS. There will be a prize for the winner..........I should have a bit of turkey left!
Justin Time
27-12-2003, 08:59
I'm not mad keen on an embroidered patch affair, but would be more interested in a badge with a pin, like my old " I didn't vote for Thatcher" badges.
Patches have to be sewn on to something, and that makes them kind of permanent, badges with pins can be moved about to the appropriate clothing for the moment.
Justin
Maybe it;s because I was in the BBs and not the Scouts....
OK, I have always had in my head an embroidered (or something like that) badge. Doc, have I got the wrong end of the stick? What has everyone else been thinking?
I'd been thinking on the lines of embroidered badge - my personal view would be :
round (edges less likely to be lifted/torn withhard usage)
muted colours (so as not to frighten the deer)
smallish (I'd thought of 2 or 2.5" - however text needs to be at least 4mm high to be readable? so needing to be bigger if much text?)
generally give a friendly green/conservation impression so like the leaf idea. Dare I suggest that non-bushcraft types will look more favourably on a leaf/tree image compared to knife/axe/campfire images?
I'd vaguely wondered about an owl - symbol of wisdom since Ancient Greece, and representing the 'knowledge matters more than kit' philosophy.
Not a great fan of pin badges as they can get caught on things. One exception is the BASC 'safe shot' badge which is a tasteful dull bronze disc with a central pin and keeper (like a drawing pin/tie pin). Wouldn't be room for the www...etc on it though.
What has everyone else been thinking?
I was thinking embroidered badge.... I keep loosing ones with pins :-(
Ed
Embroidered would get my vote.
About and inch by an inch, with no text, and square for me.
A lighter, or darker shade of green then OD. So when sown on my rucksack it'd stand out a little, but not much, to the trained eye :wink:
How about a monochromatic design? Like, light green embroidery on a dark green badge?
Of something simple and iconic, like a campfire, or the leaf.
I've always had a fondness for the line drawings representing earth,fire,wind,water? (Think 5th element)
Embroidered gets my vote too.
bigjackbrass
27-12-2003, 11:28
I'd prefer an embroidered badge, really. And I was never seriously suggesting the condom idea...
A nice deep red for the leaf as a central focus would be great. My first thought was to have the leaf emerging as the flame to a campfire, with muted earth-colour text and logo. Bit vague, but I'm packing for a trip right now and haven't had much time to do any sketches over Christmas. I'd go for a circular badge too, roughly 3" across which gives plenty of space for a bold design.
I really must get a scanner so that I could jot a few doodles down!
gurushaun
27-12-2003, 14:32
Yup embroidered (sp)
Cheers
Shaun
I agree definately embroidered and round!
is it ok to sew patches on ventile? maybe iron on?
Roving Rich
27-12-2003, 22:12
I do like the images Woodsmoke use in their brochure and website, kinda lino/woodcut with a simple bold image.
Guess you better count me in then.
Rich
I was thinking that you meant embroidered too and it's definetly what I would like.
As for round or not, I think it depends on the design because it might look better with a straight sided badge. Corners could always be rounded off (Kindof a rectangular oval!) but we'll have to see what comes up for a design.
I think 2.5" would be about right - not too big but readable. Again, I think it depends on what designs there are.
I do like the images Woodsmoke use in their brochure and website, kinda lino/woodcut with a simple bold image.
Guess you better count me in then.
Rich
This is going to be the official badge of bcuk which means that having things like the lino cut images will not work as it will not represent the site. Unless there is something particularly creative :biggthump It needs to be very distinctively ours. It may end up being used for more than just the badges, such as T-shirts etc??
Brilliant idea
As a big theme on this forum seems to be "the less is more" approach, how about using the leaf symbol you use for site and forum with just simply BCUK or Bushcraft UK on it.
1 The guys that are familiar with the symbol will recognise it instantlly
on someone else.
2 The people who don't recognise it - it may become a topic of
conversation.
Hey presto - Keep it simple :wink:
Regards
Paul Mac
I've just had a look at my old camp blanket from Scouts as there a lot of badges on it and i thought I would see how different badge sizes and shapes looked. I think it might be hard to draw the leaf logo (which I like as a design) on an embroidered badge and still be able to identify it as a leaf, after having looked at my old ones and the amount of detail they had.
I did see something that I hadn't thought of and might be an idea - leather with an outline style design embossed. Just a thought.
Paul Macs idea is a good one - a simple design red leaf on a pale green background with the initials BCUK underneath in the same red as the leaf and the whole thing bordered in dark green.
Three colours - easily recognisable.
ditchfield
30-12-2003, 20:23
Sounds good. I'm probably up for it depending on the design. The T-shirt idea sounds good too. I'd be up for that or, even better, a wool shirt :-D
RAPPLEBY2000
31-12-2003, 18:25
me too!
it's nice to be associated with such a genuine and "safe" group!
i have found some "bushcraft" related badges in a scout shop (£1)showing:
bow fire technique, shelter, fire, ect. :biggthump
but they all have a boyscout doing the task in traditional 1940's gear and all have a horrible colour surrounding them:oops: .
also they have the BP logo which i've heard has less than healthy connataions! :nono:
but nice badges, i have a nice one depicting a scout using a fire bow, but haven't had the guts to attatch it to anything!
if there is a bush craft one around soon i will definately use it :ekt: !
Sounds like a nice idea!
Count me in! :-D
Well here's my 1st attempt at a design..... Should get the ball rolling :-D
http://www.cameron-site.co.uk/madweb/images/bushcraft.jpg
Good man Dave. It may be a little hard to get it embroidered though as it is quite intricate. :super:
I agree with Tony - excellent art work but an embroiders nightmare.
KISS is whats needed here.
Hmmm so we want something more basic....I'll have a think 8-)
How's this one ?? :shock:
http://www.cameron-site.co.uk/madweb/images/bushcraft2.jpg
Very good Maddave - replace the tree with the Bushcraftuk leave emblem and your on to a winner in my book.
Well done.
Very good Maddave - replace the tree with the Bushcraftuk leave emblem and your on to a winner in my book.
Well done.
If ya mean this one http://www.bushcraftuk.co.uk/community/templates/subSilver/images/bushcraftlogo.jpg
I tried bit it was too dark and I do'nt think it would show in the embroidery. If there's a simplified one that I can play about with I'll give it a go :-D
Yeah, the logo has become a bit of a problem when it comes to reproducing it on material. It does need to be simplified but it also needs to be recognisable as our logo. It is very popular on my stationary and people do recognise it.
I am open to a simplified version.
Thanks to you all for your efforts, we'll get there in the end!
I certainly like your second design - nice and simple while showing enough "bits"
Tony whats the leaf - maple?
Maddave just reproduce it in outline otherwise it will be too dark. That said I think it should be as near as damn it the badge design done - oh the lettering could fill the bottom section slightly better too! :-D
Ok now I think we're getting something like !!
http://www.cameron-site.co.uk/madweb/images/bushcraft3.jpg
Still rough and I'm not 100% on the font *Suggestions??
But what about the general "feel" Then I can get to polishing it up :-)
Have you tried it with a deep red background, one close to the logo?
I'm not keen on the leaf, it is too far removed from the logo, even though it is the same sort of leaf.
Is everyone sure about 3" It seems big to me to put on stuff. Not so bad for a good sized rucksack but anything else it's huge. I was looking at my sleeve today trying to imagine it on there and it was overbearing. I was thinking it would be nice to move my Swanndri badge over and put it on the pocket flap.
And I hate to say this but I am not keen on the two axes :oops:
I'm not trying to be difficult honest :ekt: Have you played with a fire and pot hanger. Or, ......??
Okey Dokey
The size isn't a problem, It was just for clarity, so we can take that down an inch or so and make it deep red. I don't know which colour will contrast with it for the detail..Gray perhaps or yellow?? :shock: The hatchets can go and I'll play with a pot hanger how's the pawprint & compass?? do they stay or go?? and Do we have a standard font?
I'll have a play while you leave me some feedback :-D
Badger footprint instead of a dogs ?? Could be more evocative!!
How about something like this http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0SQDUAu8Whlg3SU2*oh8VssrgMYm51 v9kS0rL9anHpoXyii7!!nITSOGuPxD EEIbzxIjYfQYIipkgZxNq4K6O20j!x RrIsQv*OJqSW8HB!PiyuF4gUFVHcA/BCUK.bmp?dc=467545433427929257 4
Very rough but you get the gist (don't you dare laugh 'cos I'll slap you daft :-D :-D )
Badger footprint instead of a dogs ?? Could be more evocative!!
Damn, something must be rubbing off from you guys, I was just about to ask if that was a dog print. ;)
I'm having trouble with the deep red...Tried gray text and that's awful, as is yellow. Black doesn't show coz the red is too dark and white is overkill (plus it will soon look tatty after a couple of nights in the woods) I'll do a few more rough. The badger print is very elongated and I can't get that to fit like the wolfpaw, perhaps a fox print??
I'm having a hard time trying to breal down the bushcraft logo, there's about 20 shades of red in there believe it or not.....Ah well, Nowt like a challenge 8-)
I like the idea of a Swanndri badge replacement type thing, or slightly bigger.
Depends how subtle you want to be - and how much you want on the badge.
Latest
http://www.cameron-site.co.uk/madweb/images/bushcraft4.jpg
Tonight was going to be a got to bed at a reasonable hour night :banghead:
I quite like the shape and the red, which may be enough for the connection to be made. Try putting some different designs of compass in.
I know that this is cheeky but in my original designs for the site I was going to have the logo Explore . Discover . Achieve I am thinking of putting it up on the site. Can you see what it would look like if you had Bushcraft UK on the top and the Discover....etc on the bottom.
I can get any of these made up in 24 hours so we will be able to see what they look like for real. I can then photograph them and put them up.
Just thought I'd tweak it a little and replace the compass with a bloke and his firebow
http://www.nxray.com/uploads/bushcraft4.jpg
Tonight was going to be a got to bed at a reasonable hour night :banghead:
I quite like the shape and the red, which may be enough for the connection to be made. Try putting some different designs of compass in.
I know that this is cheeky but in my original designs for the site I was going to have the logo Explore . Discover . Achieve I am thinking of putting it up on the site. Can you see what it would look like if you had Bushcraft UK on the top and the Discover....etc on the bottom.
I can get any of these made up in 24 hours so we will be able to see what they look like for real. I can then photograph them and put them up.
:mrgreen: OK Tone... Gimme a while...We're on the way :-D
Could you get some more detail into the man? It looks good, just a bit stark :-D
Cheers MD
Here we go people lol :lol:
http://www.cameron-site.co.uk/madweb/images/bushcraft5.jpg
I do like having the word at the bottom, they seem to fill out the bushcraft concept a bit.
This would probably work by getting the right colour fabric and then machining the words and pics onto it. It would also work well going straight onto clothing, T-shirts etc.
Any other thoughts on the colour? Although most of you are probably in bed! So let us know later today :biggthump
There ya go Tony...He's got clothes on now Hehehe
Thats realy good.... well done maddave :-) Not sure about the colour though.
I think that if you make the leaf fill the box a bit more you may be able to get it to look more like the logo..... good clothes ;-)
excellent work.
Ed
Good stuff.
Ed, what would you suggest for the colour? I agree about the leaf, it could work well if it was a bit more full. What does the box look like if it is a bit bigger and then the leaf is stretched out more?
If the box is made bigger, the text suffers a bit and because the veins in the leaf are quite pronounced, you lose the idea of it being a leaf..Looks like a selection of random lines.
It can be any colour you want, I got that colour from the Forum logo :shock:
For me it needs to be close to that colour. You could switch and make the background something else and the pictures red :twisted:
Put me down for two please
jamesdevine
06-01-2004, 15:32
I'll take two as well.
James
Green is good :-D But maybe wont stand out.
larry the spark
07-01-2004, 09:41
I defo fancy one too, thanks!
I think that its a brill design.
But, I want two now because I am spoilt bratt, and cant wait for anything.
Any ideas when these will be done?
And have you thought of having stickers made in the same design?
Chopper
P.s Ikea do a brilliant waterstone in a rubber case for £4.00 :lol: :banghead:
Ikea do a brilliant waterstone in a rubber case for £4.00 :lol: :banghead:
Hi Chopper, Can you remember what it was called or what bit of the store it was in ? Gary posted about these several weeks ago and I went to try and buy one. Couldn't find it anywhere in either the shop or catalogue though. If you can identify it, it would be great. Sure beats £16 for the Granfors B version.
Thanks, Alick
Here you go Alick
Ikea Whetstone (http://www.ikea.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10101&storeId=7&productId=14324&langId=-20&parentCats=10108*10216)
And if anyone is going to Ikea anytime soon.....can I be cheeky and ask if they can get one for me please (I dont have an Ikea near me :-( ) and I will obviously pay for the P&P. (PM me so I can say yay or nay just in case you all go...dont think I need 200 whetstones!!!!!)
Thanks
I was at the Warrington store on the 1st Jan and they had not had one for a while.
IKEA :yikes:
Went there the other day - spent ages wandering about and deciding what I wanted - just to find that it was either out of stock or discontinued :cry:
Anyway - hopefully that will be my 2004 visit over and done with and I can spend my time in the woods :lol:
Reckon the extra £12 is well worth avoiding a trip :-D
I got mine in the kitchen department, and comparing it to the the ice bear kit I bought from Axminster tools its the biz.
Its approx 4" x 3" x1" got a rubber case and at only £4 ideal for your pack. I dont go there very often but they had them at the thurock store just before christmas when I bought 147 of them all for me.
ANYWAY what about the bloody badges!!!! (DIGRESION OR WHAT).
ditchfield
07-01-2004, 19:34
Jamie,
Theres one in Bristol, not that far away.
Mad Dave, can you loose the bloke and the fire leaving just the leaf and the words. Can you also try that out with a circle.
Cheers :-D
WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :banghead: :bu:
Thanks for the whetstone stuff guys. That explains a lot - I was looking in Warrington ! Cheers
Here we go..... Design No 6
8-)
http://www.cameron-site.co.uk/madweb/images/bushcraft6.jpg
:-) getting there.... not too sure about the stretched fonts..... could make the ends hard to read.... as for the colour, what about a green background with a red square and leaf. That would make it very recogniseable at a distance (well... a green circle with a red dot in in the middle at a distance)
:-)
Ed
I think we may have a winner !!
http://www.cameron-site.co.uk/madweb/images/bushcraft7.jpg
That's pretty good - simple design but distinctive.
Still like the idea of the eliptical badge - but I am just a user :wink:
Nice MD. Have you tried it with the elliptical shape? It looks quite nice. Take what you had and then just chop out the two side pics.
Just to keep everyone informed there area about 5 people doing designs so I figure that at some time I will put them all up for people to see and we can take a vote on it.
Thanks for the good work MD and everyone else working on this :biggthump
Tony !! Are you winding me up ??
6 posts previous
Mad Dave, can you loose the bloke and the fire leaving just the leaf and the words. Can you also try that out with a circle.
Cheers
_________________
and your last post
Have you tried it with the elliptical shape?
You're having a laugh aren't ya ?? :-D
Colour scheme and font are great, but I think that the oval shape with the man and bow drill and the fire pictures should stay. :lol:
Tony !! Are you winding me up ??
6 posts previous
Mad Dave, can you loose the bloke and the fire leaving just the leaf and the words. Can you also try that out with a circle.
Cheers
_________________
and your last post
Have you tried it with the elliptical shape?
You're having a laugh aren't ya ?? :-D
I think the problem was that I was not clear enough in the previous post :oops: The idea was to drop the two pictures from the elliptical shape and see what that was like, then I was asking if you could see what that also looked like when put on a round background. :-D
Sorry mate, I'm not meaning to take the mickey
OK mate....Just pulling your chain. I'll modify it shortly when I'm on my lunch break (at work at the moment) :lol:
Here ya go!!
http://www.nxray.com/uploads/bc8.jpg
8-)
Thats it.... wonderful :-) Good on you maddave......
Ed
Thats it.... wonderful :-) Good on you maddave......
Ed
Have we cracked it ? :shock: I must admit I like the look of this un. :-P
For the last design you've done I think I prefer the eliptical shape over the circle as the words don't seem so squashed.
Yep, I agree the eliptical shape works much better..... I think you've cracked it maddave..... I like that..... and I think Tony will like it too.
So when are we going to see the other designs?
Ed
gurushaun
08-01-2004, 15:17
MD I really like the last one ...gets my vote anyway :wink:
Cheers
Shaun
MD, it might be worth adding a border to the design as most embroidered badges have a stitched border of sorts and it'll change how it looks a bit.
MD, it might be worth adding a border to the design as most embroidered badges have a stitched border of sorts and it'll change how it looks a bit.
I agree Stew, do you think gray same as the text or something else.
anyway ya monkeys !! Let's see some more designs !! 8-) I'm sure there's lots more creative people on the board that can come up with some funky badge designs :-)
Well knowing this lot (:-P ) I would do a few, because you'll only get asked to try them if you don't.
I would do the grey, as you suggest, but also try red (although I think it'll be too bold) and maybe a darker green than you used.
I think that if we have a border, it should use one of the existing colours. Keeps it simple, and will probably keep the price down (although I expect the badge makers will have funky fangled machines that wont care) :lol:
Good man Dave :biggthump
Lookin good Dave..
May be worth a little tweaking to space things out just a liitle more but all the essentials work for me. Nice one. I'd buy it.
mad dave
you couldnt do that in a square could ya........................ :shock:
Shouldn´t the text be in white and the leaf have less details?
larry the spark
08-01-2004, 22:33
http://larrythespark.0catch.com/BADGE2.jpg
Hope this works, I haven't posted a picture before.
I kind of went for the less is more approach.
I thought a birch leaf might be a popular choice :-D [/img][/url]
larry the spark
08-01-2004, 22:35
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You need the [/img] to be straight after the address for the pic. (I think that's why it didn't)
It appears you cannot use your free space to store images and link to them from other sites :-( I just checked the img url and it appears they do not allow it. Looks like you need to find some other webspace larry to put up your design.
Ed
It's the site you're linking off not letting this site access the pic. (They call it "hotlinking")
I tried to put a link to the site up for you but it wouldn't let me do that either. It might be worth asking Mad Dave, or someone else that has a site, if they'll host it for you.
larry the spark
08-01-2004, 22:50
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Well it kinda works. If you click the link, wait for the error message to come up and then delete "index" from the address and press return, it'll come up.
larry the spark
08-01-2004, 22:54
Damn it! Sorry guys haven't a clue how to do it. Can I mail it to someone to put up? Either that or can someone tell me free domain that does allow hotlinks.
Cheers
What stew meant was that the url should be http://www.larrythespark.0catch.com (he had to delete the index bit to get it to work)
That should do it :-)
Ed
larry the spark
08-01-2004, 23:24
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[/img]http://larrythespark.0catch.com
Hope this is right.
Thanks for bearing with me!
If not try this
http://larrythespark.0catch.com
Nearly cracked it there Larry, you just got the codes back to front
at the front and at the end !!
Bloody Asci text ! who'd have it eh ?? :-D
larry the spark
08-01-2004, 23:36
Can anybody else see the picture in the post at the top of the page? If so then thats it... I must have got it right first time! :oops:
it is there now ... it was't there before ... go figure :-D
Yup that's the one. Cool pic :biggthump
Ok here's the final "cut" with the border
http://www.cameron-site.co.uk/madweb/images/bc8.jpg
and someone wanted it rectangular
http://www.cameron-site.co.uk/madweb/images/bc9.jpg
and I'm done, finished, finito' lol :-D
Ohhh, nice badges MD! :-D :-D :-D
MartiniDave
09-01-2004, 09:05
MD
Excellent job mate.
That rectangular one is crying out to become a bumper sticker for my landy!
Dave
larry the spark
09-01-2004, 11:33
Those are great MD! Really like both designs...very smart 8-)
Finally fixed the links above I think! Sorry 'bout all the confusion in the thread guys! :biggthump
giancarlo
09-01-2004, 11:49
Still can't see the images, think their servers might have an anti-leeching system setup on it. to stop other sites linking to it, uses it's bandwidth.
Though, you can get it directly if you go to:
http://larrythespark.0catch.com/BADGE2.jpg
Cheers
Carlo
Though, you can get it directly if you go to:
http://larrythespark.0catch.com/BADGE2.jpg
...but only if you copy the address into the address bar, not click on the link.
Here ya go as well....... T shirts :-D
Front view
http://www.nxray.com/uploads/teeshirtfrnt.jpg
Back view
http://www.nxray.com/uploads/teeshirtback.jpg
I had lots of fun thinking of slogans for the back !!
"Bushcrafters do it with their Granny's" (pic of Gransfors B)
"Bushcrafters like it hot" (piccy of a firebow)
Etc...Etc....
Let's here some more :-D
Super!!! :-D :-D :-D :-D :lol:
How about the logo on the front upper left and then the whoel thing on the back.
How about the logo on the front upper left and then the whoel thing on the back.
Do yo mean a small logo on the left breast and the whole large logo on the back?? That would work :-D
Well if the folks like it, I say go for it !! :-D
I dont know - I dont keep up with the thread for a day, and Mad Dave has gone and designed T-Shirts as well :lol:
Well done Dave :biggthump
if you guys are gonna make those t-shirt's, please let it not be the iron on stuff, on hot days you just feel your back sticking to the chair... besides it doesn't last long
I dont know - I dont keep up with the thread for a day, and Mad Dave has gone and designed T-Shirts as well :lol:
Well done Dave :biggthump
Hahahaha Can you tell I'm bored at work :-D
larry the spark
09-01-2004, 18:53
Right guys. I'm sure no one cares now but I couldn't let this image hosting beat me. :banghead:
Might be more suited to a smaller pin/enamel badge I think.
I used www.yoxio.com to host the image which is damn sight easier to use than the confounding thing I was using earlier in the thread!
Its just a simple birch leaf in a red background with BCUK in each corner.
http://www.yoxio.com/images.php?id=3585
larry the spark
09-01-2004, 18:55
Thank Fu......!
:biggthump
Well done! Bet you're glad that's over! :-D
Tone If you want those piccies for the badge design..Download em onto your comp. My Webhost is changing providers tomorrow so I might lose em.
It won't take me long to up em again...But just in case. I'll back em up too :shock:
i'll have a couple how much can some one pm me :-D
I don't think we're quite decided on which design we're having just yet. :-D
Yeah, there are a couple more designs to come in yet. I think that it will be worth seeing everyone’s contributions.
giancarlo
13-01-2004, 12:31
Think when they're all in Tony can put up a Poll in here and post them all then everyone can vote.
Tony can then either go with the vote or chose the one he thinks is best.
(Sometimes when they "ask the audience", they get it wrong too)
Cheers
Carlo
Thats very democratic Carlo :wink:
Yeah, there are a couple more designs to come in yet. I think that it will be worth seeing everyone’s contributions.
Well that's only fair. If people have spent the time designing, we should give it a look.
Yeah, there are a couple more designs to come in yet. I think that it will be worth seeing everyone’s contributions.
Well that's only fair. If people have spent the time designing, we should give it a look.
Dead right... Get em in guys, get those creative juices flowing and don't let Tone be too picky !! lol (just kiddin' mate :-D )
Well there's Larry, Martin and myself that have put designs up for the badge. and there's 280 odd members on the forum. So come on people !! :You_Rock_
If you're not too happy with the old computer graphics, draw or paint it on a bit of paper and scan it in. I'm sure we can get at least 10 or so for the forum members to peruse. :shock:
Great Pebble
18-01-2004, 23:52
I ran this off this evening before I realised that the preference was for a patch, this would be too hard to embroider, more of a button/pin type badge. I'll have a go and see what I can come up with on the patch front.
Nick in Belfast
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/nick.nemesis/bcuk.gif
Bloody Hell GP I like that !! If it can't be embroidered, It would make a great vinyl sticker for your Landy or kit !! 8-)
I was thinhking vinyl sticker or T-shirt design too. Darn smart!
Thats great :biggthump
Ed
Get it done I want loads now.
Small observation, why not put the web address on the chosen one????? :-D
put me down for 2 badges as well. :wave:
Great Pebble
20-01-2004, 13:32
Patch... Maybe something like this (URL included).
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/nick.nemesis/bcuk2.gif
Nick in Belfast
Tony this has been running long enough - you should set a cut off date then put the images up for a vote.
I'm still waiting for some more to come in so it can wait
Dont wait to long i'd like to sew it on while im young enough to get out without the zimmer frame!
We've got a month then!
:o): :rolmao:
Like both designs, though on the second one maybe if the writing was in yellow and the knife the other way up it could easily make it an outright winner. :super: :You_Rock_
Great Pebble
21-01-2004, 11:58
Something like this then??
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/nick.nemesis/bcuk3.gif
Nick in Belfast
YES,YES,YES,YES,YES,YES,YES,YE S,YES,YES,YES,YES,YES,YES,YES, YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Love it, Can I have mine now PLEASE. :You_Rock_ :super: :You_Rock_
Chortle - a month til I'm pensionable! I wish!
ditchfield
21-01-2004, 22:41
I love that last one.
love the last one but one little niggle could we have the handle rivets coloured
Great Pebble
23-01-2004, 10:06
Muh!
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/nick.nemesis/BCUK4.gif
Nick in Belfast
perfect when can we have them :ekt:
:-D Has this subject died a death, or can anyone tell us what is happening? :-)
Aye C'mon let's get the poll done and then we can get the buggers made :-D
giancarlo
02-02-2004, 23:50
think we'll be having the poll soon lads...
don't rush it!... want the badge to be the best one we can get, don't we ? :)
Sure Tony will set it up once every one's is in :)
Cheers
Carlo
Another couple of week’s guys, there are some other entries into the fray; the ideas will be up before that though. Then I will get some made and take pics and we will vote on them as they will be the most realistic. It will all be over soon enough and they can be stapled to your chests.
Hey, maybe we should all chip in and get a tattooing kit :rolmao:
Any news yet?
I have just bought a new jacket to sew it on to, but still no badges :cry:
I really was a spoilt brat as a kid, and it has made me very impatient.
SWMBO has just said that I still am at 39 (ouch that hurt) :cry: :cry: :cry:
It's still in the pipeline and it has to be done soon so the wait will not be much longer :-D
Justin Time
18-02-2004, 18:02
Dunno If I'm too late to comment but I don't think the UK needs to be that big, rather it should be the same size as Bushcraft. I suspect from a distance the UK, as shown so far, would stand out more than anything else.
giancarlo
02-03-2004, 19:32
patience grasshopper :-D
Things are in progress, just a few delays at the mo holding things up.
Watch this space.... hopefully we'll have some info on what the situation is over the weekend.
Cheers :oops:
Carlo
i'm only gonna order a couple of these patches wenn i have figured out how to pay for them, determent wheather i can afford them and figure out where to sewn them on. Already got 6 badges coming mine way....
stuart f
02-03-2004, 20:33
Hey TONE ,i hope you getting a lorry load of these made, cos they seem as though they,re gonna go fast. Looking forward to owning one myself.
Just the 1, gonna have to get a few... coats, bags etc ;)
RAPPLEBY2000
03-03-2004, 09:17
"i wanna play with the badge, i wanna play with the badge!"
it it here yet, is it here yet :wink:
Ya just keeping us in suspense to wind us up aren't ya?? :-D
"still shakin boss" 8-)
I think that the masses are revolting :wink:
I don't think they are that bad :wink:
I think that the masses are revolting :wink:
Les Marshall
06-03-2004, 14:17
I'll have one!
Hi Guys, nearly there :wink:
Hi Guys, nearly there :wink:
:shock:
How we doin' Tone?? :-D
Hi Guys, nearly there :wink:
:shock:
How we doin' Tone?? :-D
Well!
First off everyone, a HUGE thank you for your patience, I know this has been a long ride. :ekt:
When we started talking about the badges etc it was just going to be a badge and we were trying to get it somewhat like the maple leaf that we’ve had for a year now, as you all know getting close to the leaf was very hard. I realised that to have a badge that could be identified with the site we would have to change the logo, my cards etc, which is a big move. So, the effect of the badge thread was a big snowball that has caused a few problems along the way! Thanks to all of the input from you guys and girls (especially MadDave) you have been inspirational in changing the logo to something that can be put on cards, on the site , on badges etc :uu:
Have a look here for an example of the new logo http://www.bushcraftuk.co.uk/web/img/logo101x100b.jpg
This should be much easier to incorporate into badges etc
This is what it looks like on a page
http://www.bushcraftuk.co.uk/reviews/eatwith.html
I’m very disappointed that we have not been able to sort things out in time for the show, :sulk: sorry about that, it was the goal but it’s too late now. I will switch the logo tomorrow sometime.
I would appreciate hearing your thoughts.
Cheers guys and thanks for all your efforts on this. :biggthump
Tone
MagiKelly
25-03-2004, 22:52
I hate to be critical when other people have put in so much work but I am not really taken with the new logo. It does not say Bushcraft to me (either figuratively or physically). What was wrong with the designs that were posted?
Sorry to sound so negative but as I say the new design just does not do it for me.
larry the spark
25-03-2004, 22:57
I think it's the dogs wassinames Tone! Dead understated, would look great as a badge, t-shirt logo or whatever.... First class! The colours kind of remind me of the elements.
Who designed it? Looks very pro :biggthump
Looks really good.
But what about the poll that you were talking about??
I still think that the badge design that Great Pebble done on the bottom of page 9 is a real winner. :-)
I Like the new Logo, When i first saw it being developed I wasn’t too sure but now i think its great
The big difficulty with the design of a logo is that it has to be simple enough that it can be embroidered, etched, printed etc and still be recognisable on any surface
I love the old logo but it was none of these things, it could not be enlarged for banners or embrodered (we tried :-? )
I liked Pebbles design as well but as straight forward as it is, its still too complicated to easily be used on any material
Text is also a problem because it the logo is reduced the text becomes unreadable (and just a mess on embroidered logos)
If you look closely at the new logo you will see parts of the designs colours which have been taken from the badges thread
Sorry Stuart but as far as embroidery goes you need a differant company as the statement you have made is cack!!
I have had many badges and shirts done in the past for various companies and clubs and some have been far more complex that the one that Great Pebble designed with some fantactic results, if the font does not work on smaller badges then you change the font to one that works, I used a very good embroidery company who checked the designs and sent me advice of any proposed changes necessary for clarity or quality and didnt even charge for the extra work that they done.
Any way what happened to the poll?????????????????????????? ????????
Right then.
First off, the badge (Great Pebble’s has been mentioned) the badge has not been dismissed, sorry if that was the impression I gave. What has changed is the fact that the new logo can be incorporated into any badge that gets chosen. I originally wanted the maple leaf to be incorporated into the badge designs so that bcuk kept its identity, this turned out to be impossible – I have lots of embroidery samples here from professional companies that prove this, so, the leaf did not work on any media other than printed (max size of about 2”) We now have a logo that can be used as a badge, or in a badge design and we keep the identity of the site intact.
When we started on the badge idea it changed everything to do with identifying bcuk, that was the issue we had to address. The chance to have a poll has not been taken away from you, but I do want the designs that go into the poll to have the logo in them (it can be a single colour) The bigger picture is that everything else will just have the logo on and that will be what people associate with bcuk
I have some samples here and GP’s design is very doable, no dispute on that front. It just needs to have the new logo on it which should not be too hard to incorporate.
Great Pebble
26-03-2004, 09:27
I hope you got that done by someone friendly, the designers in here rub their hands (literally) with glee when someone asks about "corporate identity".
The old logo was...... exceptionally difficult to work with.
New one is a good job, simple and should transfer easily to badges or print. I can deploy photoshop for a while and play with some badge designs if there's the call for it.
One point though, if there is going to be a badge designed from it folks could do with a larger example of the logo to work with.
Now, any chance of you moving into the print side of media Tony??
And if you did would there be a nice remuneration package for contributors ? :-P
I will put up a higher res image later :wink:
Chopper said:
"Sorry Stuart but as far as embroidery goes you need a differant company as the statement you have made is cack!!"
Getting a little aggressive Chopper don’t you think? :?:
I think you've missed the point, probably my fault for not making my self very clear
After we tried to do embroidered versions of the Maple leaf logo and discovered that it was VERY limited in what could be done with it the original search for a badge became a Search for an entire new Logo for BCUK!! :shock:
The designs here Are not useable as a Logo (they were never designed to be people were asked to design badges not logos) A Logo needs to be simple enough to be incorporated into and design on any medium yet instantly recognisable (think Nike swoosh logo)
BCUK will probably produce a badge with just the logo along with badges designed and voted for here by the members so long as they incorporate the new Logo
if the new logo had text included in it then by the time that had been reduced to be including in something else and the whole thing reduced to fit on a 2" x 2"
the original text on the logo would become unreadable
Hmmmm S' ok I suppose, for a web logo. No something i'd particularly want to sew on my jacket (the white background would soon get grubby) or wear on a T shirt. Looks a little "unfinished" at the bottom left and it's a bit vague as to what it means...Take the text away from the top and it's a bit nondescript IMHO. :-?
larry the spark
26-03-2004, 11:15
The designs here Are not useable as a Logo (they were never designed to be people were asked to design badges not logos) A Logo needs to be simple enough to be incorporated into and design on any medium yet instantly recognisable (think Nike swoosh logo)
BCUK will probably produce a badge with just the logo along with badges designed and voted for here by the members so long as they incorporate the new Logo
I think as a logo it works brilliantly, but maybe Maddave is right about the white background for sew on badges.
Doing badges/t-shirts with just the logo and others with one of the members designs voted for by the members keeps everyone happy. I for one prefer a discreet design that won't shout 'I use knives and light fires' to anyone who saw it. Horses for courses I guess.
I for one like the new logo - it's subtle, swish and as Larry the Spark says, doesn't put emphasis on fires and knives. While I understand that knives and fire are cornerstones to bushcraft, I think that adding them to a badge of log looks too military (commando dagger style). I have nothing against military badges but I don't want to wear one. With this new logo we can identify with it through the site (and one another if we come across another member wearing it) and at the same time not shock, offend, anger of in any other way draw too much attention to ourselves from the uninitiated :-D
My 2p ... no refunds!
gurushaun
26-03-2004, 12:03
I like it... low profile, subtle yet we'll all recognise it when we see it, without it drawing undue attention from the public (which is'nt a bad thing, I really, like my privacy, but I'm proud to be associated with the responsible attitudes voiced in this forum). Just my two penn'orth.
Cheers
Shaun
I like it... low profile, subtle yet we'll all recognise it when we see it, without it drawing undue attention from the public (which is'nt a bad thing, I really, like my privacy, but I'm proud to be associated with the responsible attitudes voiced in this forum). Just my two penn'orth.
Cheers
Shaun
Well said! Personally I see nothing wrong with a picture of a camp fire or the RM knife (although there could be copyright issues there) but to the general public they just see a big knife (think command dagger here) and fires. We know we are responsible and someone who took the time to come here would see that but we have to think about the image of BCUK and how others might see it.
The main point here seems to be the logo on a white background and it getting dirty. Don't think it has to be on a white background, it doesn’t. It will fit in well with badge designs that have more in them than just the logo, having Bushcraft UK on the badge, or bcuk gives it an associated identity. The maple leaf on it's own meant nothing but with bushcraft uk it meant something. A badge with a knife and a fire on it and no mention of what it's associated with is meaningless. It's the entirety of the badge that paints the image.
So, as far as the badge is concerned the logo is not the badge, it is part of the badge and the background does not need to be just white.
Great Pebble
26-03-2004, 13:03
Muhhh...
thinking ....
Rather difficult to present an image of what B.C is all about without using the knife (axe?) and/or fire images, I suppose you could do something with a tree, maybe.
Point being, if it's going to be an issue, possibly the best bet is just to use the logo with a BCUK title - maybe the web addy. It's a good design and other BCUK types will recognise it.
To be 100% honest, personally, I'd be unlikely to actually wear a badge of any description except when at a meet or some such.
As long as there are no copyright issues then fires etc can go on badge designs. I don't mind them subtly describing what we do. If it's knives and axes it will be ok. I like some of the previous badge designs, they do describe what we do and our interests.
GP, can you adjust your design of page 9 to incorporate the new logo? Let have a look at it in place, on a badge.
Cheers
T
http://www.britishblades.com/pics/sample.htm
"The BCUK stops here"
:rolmao: :clap: :super: :notworthy
Great Pebble
26-03-2004, 15:17
Ooh-hoo... That's cool!! See this is what I mean. When you've a clear, simple logo like that it tends to look it's best when presented simply.
larry the spark
26-03-2004, 15:23
Man, you gotta get those into production soon.... I'm drooling! Fan-freakin-tastic! 8-) :biggthump :super:
Guys,
I'm sorry but that logo looks AWFUL in the current site design! I'm SORRY but it has to be said!
I think we have two options
1) Either redesign the whole site to make it sit in harmoney with the logo!
OR
2) Redesign the logo to fit the site!
From a personal point of view i strongly believe the logo doesn't reflect the idea of bushcraft, it gives me the impression of a "family sunday strolling club"
I don't want to get your backs up-i just want to give my opinion-i want the site to grow and be very fruitful in the future!
Mark
Like it! Not sure about the green though. When will they be made available, Tone, you should sell them over the site. :-D
Cheers,
Jake
Yey, they're just examples of what could be :lol:
RAPPLEBY2000
26-03-2004, 21:35
i like the design (and the logo :lol: ) but..
going back to basics now...
someone comes up to me and says:
"what does the logo represent?"
what do i say? :-?
i like the design (and the logo :lol: ) but..
going back to basics now...
someone comes up to me and says:
"what does the logo represent?"
what do i say? :-?
Bushcraft on the web ... see the symbolized @ symbol!!!!
RAPPLEBY2000
26-03-2004, 21:49
Nuff said :roll: :biggthump
"Bushcraft @ BushcraftUK!"
Looking good Tony! :wink: I'm sure the site will adjust organically around the logo with time, so give it some time. It's a good solid icon for us all to get behind, and I for one am looking forward to wearing it on a T-shirt! :super:
Hi Tone,
You gotta remember to keep it simple. When do you think they will be available?
Cheers,
Jake
I'm sorry but that logo looks AWFUL in the current site design! I'm SORRY but it has to be said!
I wouldn't go that far but I think you are right. The logo doesnt fit with the current website design..... but I do like the logo.... its growing on me since I first saw it and prefer it to the old one.
Can't wait to see a couple of badge designs with the new logo..... especialy on a non white background.
Looking forward to it :-)
Ed
SquirrelBoy
28-03-2004, 11:46
I really like the design as its simple and would arouse questions about our beloved subject, due to the fact of being along the lines of FCUK apparel.
One thing id like to suggest though, is to have the website address across the back and not on the front. I feel having it there is much better for it to be seen than on your belly, where if your a little `padded` could make the wording follow your contours :lol:
Dark green and black would be my choice of t-shirts.
i have to go with the negitive crowd. i don't like the new logo far too corporate and says nothing about the outdoors.
i for one would have liked to have seen more consultation with the members of the forum. a major change to the site identity should have been offered to a poll rather than a select few.
i respect the guys running the site need the final say but we are supposed to be a community. IMHO
hope i haven't stepped on any toes.
Right...LETS PUT IT TO A VOTE!
We live in a democracy, right tone? Why dont you set up a proper vote, enabling all the members to choose. It will then close at a certain date, once everybody has had theres. Whatever the final outcome, so be it, it is the majority.
And to stop people voting twice, just start a new thread where people write down what they want (A, B, or C), if someone votes twice, then one of there votes will be disallowed.
Put up the designs at the begining of the thread, and let us choose!
An idea?
Cheers,
Jake :-D
MagiKelly
28-03-2004, 18:59
We are not really a community. This is the forum section of Tony's site. While we are more than made at home it is Tony's right and some would even argue, his obligation to make the decisions. Consultation is one thing but the buck stops with him. Anything run by committee will end up as a fudge.
Sorry, i didnt mean it like that, i just thought it may be an idea. Of course he would make the final one!
Jake
Consultation is one thing but the buck stops with him.
:rolmao:
Anything run by committee will end up as a fudge.
Unfortunately, I have to agree with you on that. It's not that I disagree with democracy but when you have to listen to what could be over 400 voices, it sounds like work to me!
Change is always difficult to accept ... I was over on Bladeforums today and I was shocked/horrified by the change to the layout ... but the bottom line is that the quality of the info there is just as good, and I'll get used to the format pretty quickly.
MagiKelly
28-03-2004, 19:36
I was not having a go at you. To be honest I am begining to wonder if I should have made the first negative post.
I also have to say I am warming to the new logo, still not in love with it but who knows, given time..........
SquirrelBoy
28-03-2004, 19:39
I think this all goes to show how much we love the subject and want it represented in the best possiable way - and it goes without saying, everyones different :-)
No worries, i just thought it may be a bit of fun.
Right...LETS PUT IT TO A VOTE!
We live in a democracy, right tone?
This site is accessible from every country on earth. some are democracies, some are monarchies, some are dictatorships and others are a whole lot of grey inbetween. This site is paid for by Tony, it's not a democracy, it's a private clubhouse, Tony is the manager and owner, landlord and rent-payer. The internet is not a democracy, it may sometimes offer that illusion, but the reality is far from it.
Is the discussion about a vote for a logo or a badge? If it's a badge then I don't mind putting up some choices to be voted on. If it's the logo you're on about then there is no choice in it.
Consultation with the members of the forum is a great idea but it would be hell to administrate, we would get just as many people not liking whatever was chosen.
Badge i thought.
I may have come over a bit loud! Sorry, i just thought it may be interesting, you know, like a poll.
Oh well, just an idea.
Cheers,
Jake
The idea for badge related poll is a very good one, if only to get an idea as to how many to have made.
The last thing that anyone would want is for Tony to have too many made of a design that only a few members liked and get stuck with them. :-)
Thanks chopper.
It was just a light hearted idea. To help tony make a descision, i'm not trying to take his power away!
do you think it is possible to get these logo's on big .jpg files, so we print them out and iron them on our shirt or self ? Got plenty of T-shirt's, but no cash... This way we can also modify it to our own preference.
MagiKelly
29-03-2004, 14:51
If you modify it to suit yourself it kind of undermines the corporate image. For a logo to become well known it has to be presented consistantly. However your idea of having options available for people to download and use is a good one, provided they use them as supplied and do not alter them. Of course if Tony is looking to make money from "T" shirt sales that would not be an option. As for badges I imagine it is more economic for these to be made in bulk and sold individually rather than made individually.