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khimbar
23-02-2005, 18:51
I got a swedish army trangia today which is great...already used it to make a cup of tea. I've checked rest of the forums and found the excellent tutorial to use it but I can't work out how to put the thing together properly. I read something about putting the hook into the second notch so it doesn't rattle. I can't work it out. Do they all rattle or am I being dim? Is there a way to 'lock' the windshield onto the main parts for ease of carrying or does it always come away? Any advice would be helpful. Sorry if I'm being dim.

dchinell
23-02-2005, 18:59
Khimbar:

To the best of my knowledge, the only neat thing to do is run a belt through the square tab (on the big pot) and around the outside of the whole unit to more-or-less hold it together. At least you'll keep the hook from rattling so much.

The center detent on the bail is for using the hook. The off-center detent is so you can lay the hook flat against the windscreen when it's packed up. (You should run your new belt over top of the bail and hook.)

It's not really slick with the hook in the off-center detent, just marginally better.

Bear

khimbar
23-02-2005, 19:01
Many thanks. And it made perfect sense! :You_Rock_

sargey
23-02-2005, 19:11
or just find an old hessian sack or sandbag, it keeps the rattling down and helps to keep soot away from your other kit. it also has a ncer bushcrafty feel than plastic bags or nylon stuffsacks

cheers, and.

MartiniDave
23-02-2005, 19:35
In fact I'm planning to make just such a bag from the leg of an old pair of trousers who's waist seems to have shrunk (again!)

Dave

khimbar
23-02-2005, 20:54
I like that idea Dave. I must get the same shrinking trousers as you.
Is there an optimum fuel amount for a trangia? I'm trial and erroring at the moment. Any recommendations?

jakunen
23-02-2005, 21:00
Khimbar, I normally run mine at 1/2 to 2/3 full to give room ofr evaporation of fuel below the falme. Seems to work well. Just remember to add a tsp of water to theh metsh to keep the flames cleaner and cut down on soot.

Danceswithhelicopters
23-02-2005, 21:09
Go to a charity shop get an old childrens school trouser belt for 10p. Perfect size and cheap as chips. A quality stripey 1970's elasticated snake belt is perfect!

khimbar
23-02-2005, 21:12
:Crazy_071

I used to have the elasticated snakey belt! I knew I should have kept it.

jakunen
23-02-2005, 21:17
Good god! I remember those. I feel old now :cry:

RAPPLEBY2000
23-02-2005, 21:29
just tie the ...damn......oooh....get in there.....aaaagh....push.....n o don't come undone....aaaah almost got you.....
......Rattle!......... DOH!

i can just immagine it! :rolmao: :rolmao: :rolmao:

ahhh the good old ways are the best! :wink:


tip:
put some vaseline on the threads of the fuel cap this will stop it getting stuck as many have found to their dismay! i always now carry a small pice of rubber innertube to slip over the cap to give me better grip when it has got stuck. immagine it cold hands cold cooker cold food! :cry:

another tip:
because it's difficult to see the flames in sunlight when you think it is lit stick a used match in the meths if it burns you know it's lit!

another:
if you spill unlit meths don't worry to much, it will clean whatever it went on it will evaporate very quickly.

another:
if you spill burning meths, again don't panic too much it burns at a low heat and can be quickly smothered with out too much damage. do not throw water on it!

khimbar
23-02-2005, 21:47
Thanks all for the advice and information. I've just put a piece of leather thong I had through there now. Should keep it rattle free for a while. Roll on the weekend so I can have a proper play...err...I mean test.

Kath
24-02-2005, 01:33
An excellent question. The big hook drives me nuts and the windshield always hits the deck! Great stove but lousy stealth equipment! :-D

Does anyone know why it's designed this way or is there an extra part that you get only if you're in the Swedish military??

Doc
24-02-2005, 09:18
Mine doesn't rattle at all - I just hook the big hook into one of the small holes on the windshield. If I can I'll do a pic.

Mine is green - some are plain aluminium but AFAIK they are otherwise identical.

I'm so impressed I've ordered a couple more - surely the supply can't go on forever, especially at these prices. I mean, there's only 9 million Swedes.....maybe the government planned to issue two each.....

Viking
24-02-2005, 09:31
An excellent question. The big hook drives me nuts and the windshield always hits the deck! Great stove but lousy stealth equipment! :-D

Does anyone know why it's designed this way or is there an extra part that you get only if you're in the Swedish military??

Donīt blame the equipment, mine are silence as a mouse it does not rattle or anything like that. And there are no special made for the army.

I am working on a tutorial about the mess kit, but since nothing happens on the bcuk site this wll be published on another site.

ranger
24-02-2005, 11:39
I keep mine in an old fashioned canvas child’s shoe bag (the type with a drawstring top). John Lewis sells them at a reasonable price. This seems to stop any rattling for me.

ranger

khimbar
24-02-2005, 12:28
I can't get mine into one of the holes on the windshield. A pic would sure be appreciated so I can get my tiny brain around it.

bothyman
24-02-2005, 12:49
An excellent question. The big hook drives me nuts and the windshield always hits the deck! Great stove but lousy stealth equipment! :-D

Thats strange mine is the opposite I have to force mine off with my thumbs it always seemed to be stuck on, never looked at the reason why :?:

I keep it together with an old piece of inner tube round it, like a big rubber band.

If I am just taking the Mess Kit with me I put it all in a plastic bag then put it in a haversack (Shoulder bag) I also have a water bottle with a filter in the top with me as it saves me carrying water.
All the brewing gear fits inside the messkit.

MickT :wave:

Tony
24-02-2005, 14:23
I am working on a tutorial about the mess kit, but since nothing happens on the bcuk site this wll be published on another site.

Good for you Viking, don't let busy people hold you back. I'm happy for you to mention where you put it so we can all have a look :biggthump

Doc
24-02-2005, 14:25
I'll see if I can get a pic up.

Incidentally, the Swedish Army Trangia sells for up to Ģ22 on evilbay (you could get three of them, delivered, from Surplus and adventure for Ģ23.85!)

Kath
24-02-2005, 16:16
Donīt blame the equipment, mine are silence as a mouse it does not rattle or anything like that. And there are no special made for the army.

I am working on a tutorial about the mess kit, but since nothing happens on the bcuk site this wll be published on another site.
Well perhaps if I wasn't so busy working the damn bcuk site I would have more time to investigate the rattle!

Don't push it!! :nono: You have been warned.

Adi007
24-02-2005, 16:22
Donīt blame the equipment, mine are silence as a mouse it does not rattle or anything like that. And there are no special made for the army.

I am working on a tutorial about the mess kit, but since nothing happens on the bcuk site this wll be published on another site.
Hmmm, take metal items and place them in a metal container with catches and hooks pn the outside - doesn't scream stealth at me. I guess that I could pack it up with stuff on the inside and do that each and every time I want it to be quiet (something to absorb that meths smell perhaps ... which, after all, it pretty nasty stuff to consume).

Doc
24-02-2005, 22:29
Hope this works - this is how my Trangia is secured rattle free!

bothyman
24-02-2005, 22:35
Is there an optimum fuel amount for a trangia? I'm trial and erroring at the moment. Any recommendations?

Try this website for trangia info.

>> http://www.trangia.se/

MickT :sadwavey:

maddave
25-02-2005, 00:52
The hook on my mess kit annoyed me so I cut it off and secured the rest with a bungee :biggthump

tomtom
25-02-2005, 11:55
this might seem a silly question.. does the hook have a specific purpose?

Goose
25-02-2005, 12:02
My windshield doesnt fall off, have you got the handle on the inside? As for getting it apart again i put my fingers in the hole on the bottom and push the bottom of the pan with my thumbs this seems to work well.

Danceswithhelicopters
25-02-2005, 19:08
The hook allows you too hang it over an open fire. A handy option. As for stopping the rattle or falling apart you definately need a strap/belt. I had a spare genuine trangia strap so it looks (almost) like a real one.

tomtom
25-02-2005, 23:33
doesnt the bail arm allow you to hang it over the fire with out the need of a hook?