View Full Version : ajungilak help please!!!!
Fenlander
22-02-2005, 19:09
I've just bought a used "ajungilak nordic lite twin" and need to find out what rating it is :?: , as I hope to use it in the Peak District this weekend!
Can anyone help PLEASE?
This is the bag I have at the moment.I've had mine for about five years. I have no idea what the label rating is but it seems fine for me for three seasons. :biggthump But I sleep quite warm anyway. I slept in it at the ashdown moot in January inside a bivvybag on a thermarest and had no problems. but then again, it wasn't as cold as it will be this weekend :chill:
cheers,
Martin
tenbears10
22-02-2005, 20:01
They seem to have changed all the model names on the site (I can't find mine now) butLite does not denote a winter bag and if tonight is anything to go by it will be winter conditions this weekend.
I would advise that you need way more this weekend to be warm and safe. I was cold at ashdown so Shinobi must (as he says) sleep warm. I would take a liner or blanket or a thicker bag altogether.
Winter camping is a serious matter.
Bill
Fenlander
22-02-2005, 20:15
Thanks for the replies guys :super: I have a fleece liner and might have to wear two sets of thermals :wink:
Good point Bill. I should have stated that I would not go out in my bag this weekend either. That's why I'm hopefully getting hold of a '58 issue down sleeping bag for occasions like this weekend.
Save the Ajungilak for the warmer months.
cheers,
Martin
bambodoggy
22-02-2005, 21:22
So long as you have a good foam or therma rest mat, are well sheltered from that cold arctic wind, use the fleece liner and wear the two sets of thermals...and maybe a swanni or a woolly jumper you should survive the worst of this weekend Matey.... and either which way, wearing that lot you are unlikely to come to any serious harm.....treat it as a learning curve...you'll be right. :o): (As Bill says a blanket is always a good idea but they are heavy and bulky to carry if you're hiking with it).
I'm sleeping out at the end of next week....weds and thurs night so I'm hoping the cold will stay with us....so much better than damp and wet.... I'll be in a bivvi bag under a basha in a 95pattern bag but I'll just be wearing my pants.....like Martin, I sleep a little hot too! lol :chill:
Stay safe...have fun and if it's really that cold...you can always cuddle up with the rest of the party! :super:
Fenlander
22-02-2005, 21:41
So long as you have a good foam or therma rest mat, are well sheltered from that cold arctic wind, use the fleece liner and wear the two sets of thermals...and maybe a swanni or a woolly jumper you should survive the worst of this weekend Matey.... and either which way, wearing that lot you are unlikely to come to any serious harm.....treat it as a learning curve...you'll be right. :o): (As Bill says a blanket is always a good idea but they are heavy and bulky to carry if you're hiking with it).
I'm sleeping out at the end of next week....weds and thurs night so I'm hoping the cold will stay with us....so much better than damp and wet.... I'll be in a bivvi bag under a basha in a 95pattern bag but I'll just be wearing my pants.....like Martin, I sleep a little hot too! lol :chill:
Stay safe...have fun and if it's really that cold...you can always cuddle up with the rest of the party! :super:
Thanks for this! I am using a hammock and basha at the weekend. If necessary I will construct a shelter, it is part of my survival course after all. Two weeks ago I used a cheap 2-3 season Vango and was fine. This bag sounds as though it will be at least as good.
arctic hobo
22-02-2005, 21:46
Thanks for this! I am using a hammock and basha at the weekend. If necessary I will construct a shelter, it is part of my survival course after all. Two weeks ago I used a cheap 2-3 season Vango and was fine. This bag sounds as though it will be at least as good.
My UK bag is a cheap 2-3 season Vango; I assure you you will find the Ajungilak a lot better, my experiences with them have been very good :hump:
tenbears10
22-02-2005, 21:47
Stay safe...have fun and if it's really that cold...you can always cuddle up with the rest of the party! :super:
If you are lucky :wink:
I didn't mean to be a party pooper. If you don't go out in the winter you never learn. The extra clothes idea is a good one just take loads of layers and you can adjust to suit. People might take the mickey but a hot water bottle will do wonders for getting into your sleeping bag.
Blankets and hot water bottles you guys are going to think I'm soft :shock:
Nothing beats waking up to snow and even better if you are camping.
Bill
Fenlander
22-02-2005, 21:56
If you are lucky :wink:
I didn't mean to be a party pooper. If you don't go out in the winter you never learn. The extra clothes idea is a good one just take loads of layers and you can adjust to suit. People might take the mickey but a hot water bottle will do wonders for getting into your sleeping bag.
Blankets and hot water bottles you guys are going to think I'm soft :shock:
Nothing beats waking up to snow and even better if you are camping.
Bill
I use a couple of reusable hot gel packs.
tenbears10
22-02-2005, 22:03
Good idea. Hadn't thought of them. They are a bit safer than the charcoal handwarmers.
Bill
Fenlander
23-02-2005, 17:32
I've just bought a half-price Ajungilak silk Mummy style liner, which should help as well:lol:
tenbears10
23-02-2005, 17:40
I've just bought a half-price Ajungilak silk Mummy style liner, which should help as well:lol:
Any chance of a link?
Fenlander
23-02-2005, 17:47
Any chance of a link?
No sorry mate, there was just one "NEW" available on ebay for £24.99
Fenlander
27-02-2005, 20:59
Tried my new ajungilak sleeping bag and silk liner. Even with two sets of thermals, I had a VERY cold nights sleep. We later found out that the temperature had dropped to -6 in the area we were in!
Cheers fo the replies guys :super:
Glad you made it back to us safe and soundf !!!
Martin
bambodoggy
28-02-2005, 11:38
I'm intrigued Fenlander....did you keep the fire going all night? Did you have a good reflector, did you use your hammock or sleep on the ground....did you insulate the floor with fur bowes etc?
I'm glad you made it through the night ok (if a bit chilly) but am just wondering if you did anything bushcrafti extra to try to sort the situation?
It's a bit odd for me as like I've said before I tend to sleep a little warm so never really get the chance to try the above solutions in anger....hence I'm interested to see if you did them or others and how they really worked when needed....
It was -4.5 in my backgarden last night..... I am off work Wed, Thurs and Fri and will be camping out at least one of those nights in my local woods....hopefully two....first night I'll be using 95pattern bag, bivvi and basha.....second night I'm debating going for a natural shelter with an all night fire and an army blanket instead of a sleeping bag....lol....lets see if I survive the night!
Anyone fancy joining me? ? ? ? :wink:
Fenlander
28-02-2005, 12:40
I'm intrigued Fenlander....did you keep the fire going all night? Did you have a good reflector, did you use your hammock or sleep on the ground....did you insulate the floor with fur bowes etc?
I'm glad you made it through the night ok (if a bit chilly) but am just wondering if you did anything bushcrafti extra to try to sort the situation?
It's a bit odd for me as like I've said before I tend to sleep a little warm so never really get the chance to try the above solutions in anger....hence I'm interested to see if you did them or others and how they really worked when needed....
It was -4.5 in my backgarden last night..... I am off work Wed, Thurs and Fri and will be camping out at least one of those nights in my local woods....hopefully two....first night I'll be using 95pattern bag, bivvi and basha.....second night I'm debating going for a natural shelter with an all night fire and an army blanket instead of a sleeping bag....lol....lets see if I survive the night!
Anyone fancy joining me? ? ? ? :wink:
I wasn't near the fire, but we didn't keep it going anyway!
Yes I did use my hammock....I usually use a foam mat (didn't take one with me) between the TWO layers of my Nomad hammock, but this time I just used a fleece liner and spare clothes.
i cleared all the snow from under my hammock and tarp, but did not use fur bowes for added insulaton.
I was wearing merino wool thermals, woke up cold at 2am and added Norwiegen army cotton thermals.
I woke up at 6am shivering! I all honesty, I was over confident with my sleep system, and will learn from this experience!
The other guys slept in shelter constructed from fur bowes and were also very cold all night.
bambodoggy
28-02-2005, 13:10
Fair enough Mate :-P
I'm not sure that the bowes would have helped you if they were on the floor and you were swinging above in a hammock though... :?:
I think I'd have been wearing my down jacket in bed if I'd been that cold...
It just shows that you do really need a fire going and to be near it to stay warm..... Sure I can't tempt you out on Thursday night? ? ? :wink:
It was -4.5 in my backgarden last night..... I am off work Wed, Thurs and Fri and will be camping out at least one of those nights in my local woods....hopefully two....first night I'll be using 95pattern bag, bivvi and basha.....second night I'm debating going for a natural shelter with an all night fire and an army blanket instead of a sleeping bag....lol....lets see if I survive the night!
Anyone fancy joining me? ? ? ? :wink:
I'm tempted :biggthump I'm working nights until Wednesday and have a friends birthday meal on Friday but I'm around Thursday if that fits in with your plans?
Cheers,
Martin
bambodoggy
28-02-2005, 14:54
Sounds good to me....can you get over to Frimley? Weds or Thursday night is cool by me Matey.... :o):
I'll send you a PM to keep this thread on track :o):
Martin
arctic hobo
28-02-2005, 17:41
I wasn't near the fire, but we didn't keep it going anyway!
Yes I did use my hammock....I usually use a foam mat (didn't take one with me) between the TWO layers of my Nomad hammock, but this time I just used a fleece liner and spare clothes.
i cleared all the snow from under my hammock and tarp, but did not use fur bowes for added insulaton.
I was wearing merino wool thermals, woke up cold at 2am and added Norwiegen army cotton thermals.
I woke up at 6am shivering! I all honesty, I was over confident with my sleep system, and will learn from this experience!
The other guys slept in shelter constructed from fur bowes and were also very cold all night.
Therein lies your problem. Hammocks are not warm to sleep in at all, as you're pressed hard against a very thin layer, which loses heat very quickly as it is near the ground (cold air) but high enough to be fully in the wind. Even with a foam mat it's not a good idea except when hot. Plus you only had a "lite" bag, which if you sleep cold will not be enough for winter, especially with snow.
Just some advice for next time :wave:
Fenlander
28-02-2005, 21:07
Sounds good to me....can you get over to Frimley? Weds or Thursday night is cool by me Matey.... :o):
I would love to join you, but unfortunately I am back to work tomorrow (and working this weekend) after a week and a halfs leave. If I lived a bit closer I would join you for a night though!
Hope you both have a great time!
Fenlander
28-02-2005, 21:11
Therein lies your problem. Hammocks are not warm to sleep in at all, as you're pressed hard against a very thin layer, which loses heat very quickly as it is near the ground (cold air) but high enough to be fully in the wind. Even with a foam mat it's not a good idea except when hot. Plus you only had a "lite" bag, which if you sleep cold will not be enough for winter, especially with snow.
Just some advice for next time :wave:
Thanks for your reply!
I am now in the process of making an under quilt, made out of rip-stop nylon and Pertex. Not sure what the thermal fill will be yet though?