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Hi
im thinkinf of making my Hobo be able to take a gas burner as well as everything els . the Trangia insert seems to be the ideal solution (maybe not hte cheapest)
anybody got one does it just sit in the hole the meths burner does ??
any photos of it close up and how it does fir etc
ATB
Duncan
phill_ue
10-02-2010, 17:17
I thought it was just a simple bit of tin that you put on the burner unit and it goes into the slotted hole and then turns to hold it in place. It isn't secure, as in it won't stay there if you were to throw the trangia set around but it is safe enough in a fixed unmoving position. I was thinking of making one up out of a bit of scrap ally, I can't se the point in spending money on something so simple.
My Trangia gas burner insert is on a kind of spring clip and it is held pretty securely in the meths burner hole. Having said that you have to remove the burner to pack the stove away, although it sits neatly inside.
NS
Hi
im thinkinf of making my Hobo be able to take a gas burner as well as everything els . the Trangia insert seems to be the ideal solution (maybe not hte cheapest)
anybody got one does it just sit in the hole the meths burner does ??
any photos of it close up and how it does fir etc
ATB
Duncan
Easy to do, phone mike at
http://www.base-camp.co.uk/ the kits about a tenner
Easy to do, phone mike at
http://www.base-camp.co.uk/ the kits about a tenner
their trangia gas burner seems to be cheaper than most at £39
ive got an old Epigas Alpine somewhere i think i will try converting that first :D
ATB
Duncan
Claudiasboris
11-02-2010, 21:23
Hi Duncan,
Let us know how you get on with your Alpine conversion. I've spent many hours looking and playing with an Alpine and Trangia and just can't figure it out. I can jury-rig it but it doesn't seem safe.
Claudiasboris
Hi Duncan,
Let us know how you get on with your Alpine conversion. I've spent many hours looking and playing with an Alpine and Trangia and just can't figure it out. I can jury-rig it but it doesn't seem safe.
Claudiasboris
ah but i wat to fit it to my hobo stove ;)
lucky i got a metal disc for my 9" angle grinder should be a little quicker than the Dremel :lmao:
ATB
Duncan
their trangia gas burner seems to be cheaper than most at £39
ive got an old Epigas Alpine somewhere i think i will try converting that first :D
ATB
Duncan
Have a go Duncan, the conversion kit was originally for the Optimus Nova but I've used them on Nova's, Omnifuels, MSR's etc. If the legs are held on to the burner by a central nut then you should have no problem. Remove the legs, bolt on the bracket and fit.
Here is a converted Booster stove
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/rik_uk3/DSCF2859.jpg
so basically 'U' plate fixed by a nut if thats avalible on the stove, looks fairly simple to make etc
Usfull i might just drill a central hole in the plate shelf forthe Hobo and bolt it on and off for use then with out the burner i can use the plate as shelf for coke can meths and hexi maybe even as a spacer for wood
plus Ive been offered and bought a trangia burner at a very reasonable second hand price goodjob
will still see if i can dig out he Epi Alpine
ATB
Duncan
ATB
Duncan
Andy2112
12-02-2010, 10:46
their trangia gas burner seems to be cheaper than most at £39
ive got an old Epigas Alpine somewhere i think i will try converting that first :D
ATB
Duncan
Hi Duncan,
Let us know how you get on with your Alpine conversion. I've spent many hours looking and playing with an Alpine and Trangia and just can't figure it out. I can jury-rig it but it doesn't seem safe.
Claudiasboris
folks, use the epigas alpine burner mate, that's what i did years ago. Basically i drilled a hole in the bottom stand then cut two rectangles either side of the hole so the micro tap can fit through. Unscrew the burner so you can remove the legs, slide the tap through the hole where the burner goes and out through the newly cut hole and bob's your uncle. The only downside i have found is that the burner is loose in the hole but if you position the gas can right there's no drama. I'll try and get someone to do some pics over the weekend if you want of the trangia converstion i did.
You can use all sorts of stoves in the conversion, this one is the burner from an Optimus 111T multifuel and is mounted in a Trangia (Lidl) clone, very powerful and because of the wide flame spread, perhaps the fastest boiler of mine to date (and the best at simmer)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/rik_uk3/DSCF3192.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/rik_uk3/DSCF3178.jpg
This uses a different conversion kit though.
Claudiasboris
12-02-2010, 13:46
Andy 2112 - I've fiddled with the Alpine and Trangia, reducing the Alpine to just the burner and tap but it feels very unstable and I don't trust it; I certainly haven't connected it to the cannister and turned it on.
It needs some kind of fitting to hold it in place, such as rik uk3 has suggested (thanks - I think I'll be trying that!). That seems to be what the official Trangia adaptor has anyway.
BTW my engineering skills are not the best (no, really!).
Claudiasboris
Andy2112
12-02-2010, 14:32
Andy 2112 - I've fiddled with the Alpine and Trangia, reducing the Alpine to just the burner and tap but it feels very unstable and I don't trust it; I certainly haven't connected it to the cannister and turned it on.
It needs some kind of fitting to hold it in place, such as rik uk3 has suggested (thanks - I think I'll be trying that!). That seems to be what the official Trangia adaptor has anyway.
BTW my engineering skills are not the best (no, really!).
Claudiasboris
Trust me, it's perfectly safe, i've used it for years without any problems (plus it's cheaper than the Trangia setup). It can't go anywhere when its in the base and there's not much room for it to slide around really. I'll try and get some pictures done if this will help you ? Did you keep the metal dish thingy underneath the burner on it ?
I'm not any good with the practical side but one hole with two cutouts was very easy to do, all you need is a half round file and a flat one for the hole and of course a drill or a hole cutter drill.
well got a trangia burner second hand goodjob
question s
does any body know what the trraded boss on the bottom is for i assume a leg attatchment but cant find one as an accessory
also any body know the thread size save me measuring it looks to be a fine
I can easily remove the spring plate and i assume heat reflector as i dont need these BUT is the reflector needed to keep the lower part of the unit cooler ??
my plan is to remove these and find or make a nut to fit the boss so i can screw it to a grill shelf that fits in the Hobo i dont want to do a big hole for the spring clip as its not ness and want to use the grill for Hexi and a Meths burner support etc when not on Gas
ATB
Duncan
Hi,
Only just found this thread or I would have posted earlier in an attempt to save you cash!
I bought one the other day, but from the shop as they've sold out on line, but theirs is the cheapest I've found...
http://www.outdoorworld.co.uk/trangia-gas-burner-p-1147.html
Hi,
Only just found this thread or I would have posted earlier in an attempt to save you cash!
I bought one the other day, but from the shop as they've sold out on line, but theirs is the cheapest I've found...
http://www.outdoorworld.co.uk/trangia-gas-burner-p-1147.html
sok cheers mine was a lot cheaper than that second hand but pretty much new :D.
ATB
Duncan
well got a trangia burner second hand goodjob
question s
does any body know what the trraded boss on the bottom is for i assume a leg attatchment but cant find one as an accessory
also any body know the thread size save me measuring it looks to be a fine
I can easily remove the spring plate and i assume heat reflector as i dont need these BUT is the reflector needed to keep the lower part of the unit cooler ??
my plan is to remove these and find or make a nut to fit the boss so i can screw it to a grill shelf that fits in the Hobo i dont want to do a big hole for the spring clip as its not ness and want to use the grill for Hexi and a Meths burner support etc when not on Gas
ATB
Duncan
Its not a heat reflector, its a priming dish. When using a multifuel stove they can need priming with meths first so you fill the dish and light it.
Its not a heat reflector, its a priming dish. When using a multifuel stove they can need priming with meths first so you fill the dish and light it.
no the Trangia GAS burner its flat and has a slot the gas pre heat tube goes thru
ATB
Duncan
bikething
14-02-2010, 19:55
no the Trangia GAS burner its flat and has a slot the gas pre heat tube goes thru Some piccies to clarify things ;)
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r16/Bikething/BCUK_sales/trangiagas_side.jpg
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r16/Bikething/BCUK_sales/trangiagas_tap.jpg
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r16/Bikething/BCUK_sales/trangiagas_simmer.jpg
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r16/Bikething/BCUK_sales/trangiagas_boil.jpg
no idea on the thread size - it's not standard metric, and none of the fixing nuts from my other stoves fit it.
I'm guessing it's a generic base that's used in a number of different stoves with different burners etc. fitted, though I can't find anything in the current Primus catalogue that looks anything like it.
Interestingly, the old one I've got fitted into a lidls clone has a different style gas tap on it :dunno:
thats the kiddy cheers didnt want to pimp your pictures with out asking
the vernier says the thread is 8mm (could be 5/16" tho) and a pitch of 0.5mm (cant get the vernier on it exacly)
M8 x 0.5 is a Metric Fine thread so might find a tap to cut a nut or i could crunch a normal M8 die on it :rolleyes: and use a normal nut
AB
Duncan
PS shows how long ago i used gas for camping etc the bottle i got outthe loft to try this burner out was a 250 EPI gas
bikething
14-02-2010, 22:56
thats the kiddy cheers didnt want to pimp your pictures with out askingcrack on - though it doesn't actually show the threaded stud..
the vernier says the thread is 8mm (could be 5/16" tho) and a pitch of 0.5mm (cant get the vernier on it exacly)
M8 x 0.5 is a Metric Fine thread so might find a tap to cut a nut or i could crunch a normal M8 die on it :rolleyes: and use a normal nut I can take mine into work tomorrow - our toolmakers will have thread gauges - I'll let you know what they reckon... (assuming it's the same thread)
PS shows how long ago i used gas for camping etc the bottle i got outthe loft to try this burner out was a 250 EPI gasooh.... one for the Antiques Roadshow! :lmao:
bikething
15-02-2010, 14:33
the vernier says the thread is 8mm (could be 5/16" tho) and a pitch of 0.5mm (cant get the vernier on it exacly)
Seems to be 8mm x 0.75 pitch - I've got one of our fitters to tap out a couple of square nuts we had lying around - I'll drop one in the post to you :)
Seems to be 8mm x 0.75 pitch - I've got one of our fitters to tap out a couple of square nuts we had lying around - I'll drop one in the post to you :)
cheers i couldnt get my vernier on it properly and dont have a thread guage goodjob
have to get a bit of 304 stainless plate from Dads to cut and drill as a mount palte now
ATB
Duncan
got it today perfect goodjob
just need to dig out a bit of stainless plate :D
ATB
Duncan
Bikething - did I see the name Primus on the gas can end on your last piccie? Makes sense trangia going to primus being intheir neck of the woods but to allow the name to be stamped on it seems a bit lax on their part. Still both companies are good ones so at least it shows quality.
bikething
17-02-2010, 18:39
Bikething - did I see the name Primus on the gas can end on your last piccie? Makes sense trangia going to primus being intheir neck of the woods but to allow the name to be stamped on it seems a bit lax on their part. Still both companies are good ones so at least it shows quality.Yep.. says Primus - looks exactly like the one on the Omnifuel.
Which from a manufacturing point of view would make sense as it saves re-tooling just for what must be a 'small' production run for Primus.
oks nearly done just haveto drill out the rest of the holes marked on eth plate later so it can be usesd for lifting the wood fire of teh bottom and allowing better air flow will also be used for Hexi blocks or a pop can meths stove if ness which is why i didnt cut a large circular hole it could just clip into like teh trangia etc
still thinking the reflector is needed to keep the heat of the pipe join with out it makes a very small package
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o109/FGYT/Stove/hobogas2.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o109/FGYT/Stove/hobogas4.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o109/FGYT/Stove/hobogas3.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o109/FGYT/Stove/hobogas1.jpg
ATB
Duncan
That looks really great Duncan .
A truly multi fueled hobo goodjob
I've been looking forward to seeing how it was going to turn out :).
Cheers,
Pete.
TinkyPete
18-02-2010, 21:53
Looks Sweet :)
now another idea for a project. :(