Hammock hanging tape

[BareNecessities]

This is a pretty straight forward question and is very important for my kit. Where can I find hammock tape (attaching the hammock to the tree) that is just a length of tape with no "Slap strap" gimmicks?

I have Ray Mears hanging tape in mind.

Thanks a million

[Gill]

climbing tape by the metre from your local climbing shop.

[BushEd]

http://www.ronniesunshines.com/bushcraft-hammock-p-987.html

[sandbag47]

http://www.ronniesunshines.com/bushcraft-hammock-p-987.html

i agree i have one from ronnies

[Shewie]

I use the 18mm tubular webbing from Walkhigh

http://walkhigh.co.uk/acatalog/Cord_and_Tape.html

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd291/Shewie01/DSC01540.jpg

[Gill]

He is in Austria though,the postage might be a bit expensive,i,m sure you will be able to get a couple of carabiners and some tape over in a climbing capital like Austria.

[eraaij]

For 19.95 gbp you can get a lot of decent cordage in any boating or climbing shop..

[Mang]

i agree i have one from ronnies

Just been to Ronnie Sunshine's today and noticed they had a big roll of it on the wall.

[lyndon]

think im missing somthing what does that ronnie shunshine link mean when it says binding the tapes not useing knots, not sure if im just being a bit dence but i just use the siberian hitch on my hamock tapes and the other one ray uses as a tentioner not sure of the name is there a better way to do it with tapes ?
(ps. my tapes are so fury now i could use a new set so i may buy some, one has allready been replaced with 6mm rope as it is so this will help thanks)

[carnegos]

I get my hammock rope from Tenth Wonder (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/30M-of-Strong-Camping-Hammock-Tarpaulin-Rope_W0QQitemZ370347676337QQcm dZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomai n_3?hash=item563a7112b1) on eBay (no association just a happy customer) and have never damaged a tree using the rope. I bought one of their XL hammocks (I'm 6'4" in height) and I am very pleased with it, having plenty of room for myself and my kit. Having just 'got off the ground' so to speak I found it a nice cheap way to test out hammocking.

[durulz]

DD Hammocks sell hammock webbing.

[Davey569]

I did a mod with my old hammock and used thin straps from an old ratchet strap set.

[Neumo]

I use the 18mm tubular webbing from Walkhigh

http://walkhigh.co.uk/acatalog/Cord_and_Tape.html

Thanks for the link as I want some tube tape so I can do the Hammock spreader mod; i.e. tube tape with a 5"-8" metal bar inside it, as per a DD hammock mod thread mentioned don here a while back.

[jungle_re]

i use large climbing webs pre sewen into loops. Very veristile for other thing also but can be use in numerous differnt ways to adjust the length. They were dirt cheap from MEC

Ps Shewie it looks like you have under slung your canoe lol that quite a hammock set up

[mitch66]

hi, could you use an old car seat belt? or is it to wide? thanks carl

[Thijzzz]

Go to a climbing/alpinist shop and get some climbing tape.

One of the brands that should be easy to get in Austria is Edelrid (German brand).

Check that the breaking strength enough - THIS IS IMPORTANT.
For instance: if your hammock is hanging almost straight when you lie in it, you need
tape/ropes of roughly 10x times your weight in breaking strength.
http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?p=701401

[MrEd]

all my climbing tapes are 25Kn breaking strain which is 2 and a half tons. never broken one yet lol

[grantdan]

I use webbing from my local hardware shop, just over £5 for a 15m reel, and its bright orange so can be seen easily

[ed_roebersen]

For several reasons I would buy the webbing made by the manufacturer of the DD Hammock. It is available at webshop Military Mart: http://www.militarymart.co.uk/10m-Strong-Webbing-DD-Hammocks/prod_1131.html

[grayclose31]

I use the 18mm tubular webbing from Walkhigh

http://walkhigh.co.uk/acatalog/Cord_and_Tape.html

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd291/Shewie01/DSC01540.jpg

Sorry to hijack this post but having looked at this set up i would like to know what the line over the hammoc is for and where is it attached. I am guessing its there to hang stuff from!!!!

[Barn Owl]

For several reasons I would buy the webbing made by the manufacturer of the DD Hammock. It is available at webshop Military Mart: http://www.militarymart.co.uk/10m-Strong-Webbing-DD-Hammocks/prod_1131.html

I would disagree as I find it too thick and prone to slippage.
A thinner bit guage webbing is better.

My findings only mind.

[Barn Owl]

Sorry to hijack this post but having looked at this set up i would like to know what the line over the hammoc is for and where is it attached. I am guessing its there to hang stuff from!!!!

Partly,
It also gives you the optimum size of 'sag' for being able to lie comfortably.

105" I believe.

[grayclose31]

I don't understand how that works. If anyone can help that would be great.

[Teepee]

I don't understand how that works. If anyone can help that would be great.

Your talking sag angle?

The 'ridgeline' is attached to the hammock suspension, so that when the hammock is hung, the ridgeline is tight. The most used angle for blackbirds(which Shewies hammock is) according to hammock forums, is about 30 degrees. With the ridgeline permanently attached, its easy to get the hang (sag) angle spot on everytime for maximum repeatable hanging comfort.

Other options are to take a digital inclinometer, a protractor and spirit level, or I prefer to use my stereo-optical reference inclinometers-my eyes. :lmao:

[Gill]

Its all aboot the angle of the dangle .

[mikewilkinson]

Hanging in a Hammock is all about the angle of the dangel (Sag). It determines the strength of cordage needed to hold you up, it impacts on shoulder squeeze and also on how flat you can lay in it. 30 degrees is quite often quoted, but it all depends on the width and length of the hammock itself. Short narrow hammocks are better pulled a little tighter to counter lying like a banana, but not so tight that you cant make the most of lying asymmetically (say 25 degrees), wider hammocks can be slung a little slacker as the width lets you lie flatter asymmetrically(35 degrees), when using narrow hammocks it is finding the right pay off between shoulder squeeze/flatness and can vary between 35 and 10 degrees depending on length of hammock. I have a Tenthwonder hammock that is a little narrower than I would prefer but at about 25 degrees I can get pretty flat on the asymmetrical lay without suffering too much squeeze on the shoulders. Knowing roughly what my angle of dangle means that I can begin to tailor my cordage to my weight. What many people forget in calculating forces for cordage (in particular with structural ridgelines) is it is not the angle of the hammock referenced to the horizontal, but the angle of the suspension referenced to the horizontal that determines the tension in the suspension. I hang on a single line, which I pull to about 10 degrees, with my hammock fixed at 25 degrees. The single line for my weight + equipment(and a fudge factor) needs to have a breaking strain of at least 300kg. If I pulled it uber tight say 5 degrees then that strain would need to be 600kgs. Happy hanging!

[mikewilkinson]

Ohh Forgot to mention, add knots into the equation and you may need to factor in a further 40%-60% for the stresses caused by the knot. When using cllimbing rated kit this generally isn't a problem as you are looking at dynamic loading usually well above 1000kg. If like, many of the weight weenies out there you are using cordage sourced from the sailling fraternity i.e dyneema, then using pure 12 strand sk75 or better, 3mm in diameter will offer a breaking strain of about 1000kg+.

[wentworth]

Shewie, is that a Snugfit on your hammock? Great underquilt!

[trekkingnut]

are you talking about webbing? just get hh treehuggers... its just seatbelt material with a loop at each end.... its thick so it doesnt slip, its guarenteed to take your weight and its not heavy....