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Are these available in one size only or more than one size,do you find them big enough for what you want ect.
I'm 6ft 3in and my standard 'hootchi' is big enough.:o): It is 2.7m 8' 10'' long. I remember seeing somewhere you can get Xlong ones :biggthump
Being from the US where would one find one of these hootchies.
Thanks
Lee :pack:
Thanks Hootchie :biggthump
[QUOTE=leemann]Being from the US where would one find one of these hootchies.
Thanks
Brigade Quartermaster Cat. The call them Bashas
http://www.actiongear.com/cgi-bin/tame.exe/agcatalog/results.tam?rlk=4707093
[QUOTE=leemann]Being from the US where would one find one of these hootchies.
Thanks
Brigade Quartermaster Cat. The call them Bashas
http://www.actiongear.com/cgi-bin/tame.exe/agcatalog/results.tam?rlk=4707093
Here's one: Basha (http://www.actiongear.com/cgi-bin/tame.exe/agcatalog/level4s.tam?cart=05B17fev.hsl&lpg=%2Fagcatalog%2Fresults%2Et am&lpt=1108664523&xax=14090&M5COPY%2Ectx=8206&M5%2Ectx=8206&M2%5FDESC%2Ectx=Bivouac%20%2D% 20Sleeping%20Bags%2C%20Shelter s%2C%20Modular%20Sleep%20Syste ms%2C%20Bivy%20Bags&level3%2Ectx=results%2Etam&query%2Ectx=basha&backto=%2Fagcatalog%2Fresults% 2Etam)
I'd take the whole "SAS" thing with a massive pince of salt and all DPM sheets I've seen here have the pattern on both sides not the "solid Grey Green" described. :?:
One more question to you knowledgeable bushcrafting types,why does the Aussie version seem to be preferred over other types.
[QUOTE=Ravenn]
Here's one: Basha (http://www.actiongear.com/cgi-bin/tame.exe/agcatalog/level4s.tam?cart=05B17fev.hsl&lpg=%2Fagcatalog%2Fresults%2Et am&lpt=1108664523&xax=14090&M5COPY%2Ectx=8206&M5%2Ectx=8206&M2%5FDESC%2Ectx=Bivouac%20%2D% 20Sleeping%20Bags%2C%20Shelter s%2C%20Modular%20Sleep%20Syste ms%2C%20Bivy%20Bags&level3%2Ectx=results%2Etam&query%2Ectx=basha&backto=%2Fagcatalog%2Fresults% 2Etam)
I'd take the whole "SAS" thing with a massive pince of salt and all DPM sheets I've seen here have the pattern on both sides not the "solid Grey Green" described. :?:
The last 'reversible' one I saw ws a cheap Korean knock-off that was coated with PU on one side and meant you got just as wet from condensation as if you hadn't used a tarp...
Me too ... the "SAS" tag is suspicious!
Me too ... the "SAS" tag is suspicious!
Sheap and S....?:lol: (5 letter, rhymes with 'ditty'...:naughty: )
... the "SAS" tag is suspicious![/QUOTE]
We get the same thing over here with "Spec. Ops." issued/perferred/used exclusivly/designed for... :?:
Squidders
17-02-2005, 21:35
One more question to you knowledgeable bushcrafting types,why does the Aussie version seem to be preferred over other types.
Clem,
The thread started here: http://www.bushcraftuk.net/community/showthread.php?t=4532
Has some answers to your question :biggthump
Clem,
The thread started here: http://www.bushcraftuk.net/community/showthread.php?t=4532
Has some answers to your question :biggthump :biggthump
Squidders
17-02-2005, 22:38
No worries Clem :-)
Hi all!!
Instead of opening a new thread for this question - I'll ask it here.
Could anyone tell me the differences between the Aus cam hootchie from Woodlore and the one from Bearclaw please?
For example: I've seen some piccies and on the Bearclaw version there aren't any loops stitched on the hootchie itself (for the ridgeline), while the Woodlore version has (IIRC) about 3 of them ... Are the ridgeline loops an advantage? Do they offer (the basha) more protection against falling branches (... I know, check the trees before pitching), etc. etc.
I know there is a thread with more info about it, but I can't find it :rolleyes: ...
Any experiences with these two models are much appriciated! :D Your thoughts please gents! ;)
Cheers,
I've always found the ridgeline loops really handy especially when rigging the hoochie over my hammock, you may also want to check that it has the attachments to join more hoochies together, I have 4 in total all Aus made (being in Perth helps with that) but we still get Asian made low quality ones here and two of mine were only made to be used as singles and are very light weight where the other two are slightly heavier. Hope that helps...
Mark
I think I'm right in saying that Woodlore get their hoochies made for them and the Aus hoochie is from Australia. There's quite a size difference between the two and the Aus ones are tougher material, so they weigh more as well.
The top loops are going to be personal preference as you can run a line under the tarp and on some tarps you don't need one as the material itself is strong enough. Saying that, if it's light weight it may wear the material more quickly.
A lot of it is down to personal preference, the thing to do really is have a play with both, if you can get to one of the bcuk meet up's there will be a few there you can play with as well as different hammocks etc People use it as an opportunity to try out other kit. ;)
A lot of it is down to personal preference, the thing to do really is have a play with both, if you can get to one of the bcuk meet up's there will be a few there you can play with as well as different hammocks etc People use it as an opportunity to try out other kit. ;)
:D Actually I'll probably come over to the UK in summer ;). But wanted to bring my own hootchie and have a play with it ... Have to admit you are right though: and have a play with them at the meet up.
Found the dimensions by the way:
- Woodlore: 270 x 175cm (684 gr.)
- Aussie: 250 x 175cm
Off topic: bummer the 2 meet ups (Ashdown & BCUK) are at the same time (IIRC) ... Would have been great to go to both of them :D
Mark / Gripper: Thanks mate! ;)
Cheers,
Squidders
19-04-2005, 08:32
I have a basha which is the UK version of the hootchie... It doesn't have proper loops along the ridge but there were points I could stick some cord to make some without it becoming leakey.
With regards to falling things, as you say, avoid pitching it under anything that looks a little dead, no ridge line or configuration is strong enough to protect you from a falling branch... sticks yes, branches, no.
The new style DPM basha (I say new, I've had mine since '97) has a loop in the centre, and this can be used along with the loops on the edges in a similar fashion to the aussie hootchie. It's not quite as good, but it will do the job adequately. Unfortunately, they can't be poppered together, but then they are huge!!
I advise checking that there isn't any dead wood in the trees above your proposed site before pitching your basha, also a strong line between two stout trees above your basha will catch any large branches that may fall onto your basha, slowing its descent. This method is used often in the jungle, but would be equally effective in our forests.
Spamel
With regards to falling things, as you say, avoid pitching it under anything that looks a little dead, no ridge line or configuration is strong enough to protect you from a falling branch... sticks yes, branches, no.
Thanks Joe! :D The word for branches and sticks we use in dutch is the same (branch: tak; sticks: takje and: twigg: twijg) ... So that's where it went wrong :rolleyes:
I used that for an example, because I remembered a thread where people mentioned that the ridgeline gave some protection against ... sticks ;)
(...) also a strong line between two stout trees above your basha will catch any large branches that may fall onto your basha, slowing its descent.
Thanks for this good tip Spamel!
I think I've seen the type of basha you use, not sure though. The one I've seen felt as it would wear very fast / wasn't made of a very tough material ...
Squidders
20-04-2005, 09:20
The one I have is also very large... it's got webbing straps along the edges as it can be used as an emergency stretcher. It's also bomb proof and feels like it's going to last forever.
mine hootchie has 5 ridge loops , so what do i got than ?
The British DPM basha is quite tough, I've not had any problems with mine. It also has the handles to use it as a stretcher, with eyelets and loops around the outer edge and a single loop in the very centre. It packs down quite small, into a little stuff sack that comes with it. Getting it in in a hurry can be fun though!!
I think that the large branches that fall down are often called by the British Armed Forces "widow makers"! Just for clarification, the stout line is a good idea, but always check above first!! Obviously, it should be about a metre above your basha, this will slow a branches' descent and hopefully you'll be OK! This isn't going to stop a giant redwood if it happens to fall down, but will help with branches of a medium size.
Remember: Safety First, Fun Later!! :D
Spamel
Thanks all for the replies! It gave me some new points of view and things to think about when purchasing one!
Safety first, fun later ... Sounds like the thought for today (... everyday :D )
Cheers!!
On the thread about the cheap Zebra billy cans (http://www.bushcraftuk.com/community/showpost.php?p=78517&postcount=38) I made comparison table about the stockists, prices, etc.
I also mentioned that I had such a table for hootchie / basha's - Bothyman made a request, so therefore I placed it in this thread: for all and singular use and benefit ;)
Moderators: If this post is not appropiate to post, please feel free to edit or remove it completely.
Shop_____Length (cm)____Width (cm)____Weight (gr)____Price (£)____Color
Bearclaw ___250_________175__________XX ___________50.00_______Aus.
___________265_________175____ ______640__________35.00______ _DPM
Woodlore ___270_________175__________68 4__________50.00_______Olive
___________270_________175____ ______684__________50.00______ _Aus.
Sasskit_____280_________180___ _______XX___________49.99_____ __DPM
___________260_________175____ ______600__________29.99______ _Olive
Penrith_____230_________170___ _______750__________44.00_____ ___DPM
___________230_________170____ ______750__________36.00______ _Olive
___________230_________170____ ______390__________30.00______ _Olive
Survival Sch_300_________250__________6 00__________55.00_______Olive
___________250_________250____ ______500__________40.00______ _Olive
___________250_________150____ ______400__________24.99______ _Olive
Strikeforce__265_________175__ ________640__________30.00____ ____DPM
Silverman___256_________216___ _______XX___________85.00_____ __DPM
___________254_________145____ ______XX___________40.00______ _Olive
Please note that some specs about the hootchie / basha is not incorporate in this table. For example: yes/no press studs, number of loops, etc. So, this is up to you to check and double check ;)
Also be aware that named types can increase with their price in future or ran out of stock ...