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Melonfish
12-01-2010, 13:31
I'm trying to look at disposable off ground fire solutions. I'll be camping on a site that allows no ground fires this month, however i'm backpacking so i don't want to be lugging anything with me.

the idea is to stake 4 posts and setup a frame, then lay green logs over that then several inches of dirt. then light the fire ontop of that.
it'll be a foot off the ground but i'm not sure how doable it really is, has anyone ever done this?

does anyone know of any other solutions?
thanks
pete

Muddy Boots
12-01-2010, 13:40
Sorry if this is a daft question but is the fire principly for warmth or for cooking?

Shewie
12-01-2010, 13:45
Can you cobble up some kind of lightweight firebox from something Pete ?

I'm thinking some kind of mesh or lightweight grate maybe ??

scubapauly
12-01-2010, 14:06
How about something like the Wilkinsons steamer, and use as a fire pit?

lamper
12-01-2010, 14:44
MelonFish:

I know you said you didnt want to "lugging" anything, but this is so light it wont matter...

Grilliput Fire Bowl - http://www.greenmanbushcraft.co.uk/fire/grilliput-fire-bowl.htm

http://candlelantern.com/images/Grilliput-in-use3.jpg

Used mine loads of times on the beach and in the Park and Gardens in Brighton, never scorched a thing!

SimonM
12-01-2010, 15:40
Hi Pete, what you are describing is how we used to make alter fires as a Scout.

If you can use wet clay as the top layer and you'll be fine.

Scoutbase have a fact sheet that show a picture, sorry I can't link it as the school server wont allow me to!

Here is a link to the whole fact sheet...

http://www.scoutbase.org.uk/library/hqdocs/facts/pdfs/fs315076.pdf


Found this image which may be useful too...

http://www.scoutingresources.org.uk/img/camping_fires_003.jpg
Simon

Melonfish
12-01-2010, 17:02
Simon thats exactly what i was looking at, and thats a cracking link m8 cheers.

Primarily we want a bit of warmth as its January! so that'll help but i also want to have a go at cooking over an open fire and get a bit of light going at night so we don't have to just sit in the tent bored and using batteries, as we're basically In delemere forest i doubt we'll have any issues finding firewood.

Lamper, i like the grilliput bowl, what kind of effect does it have on grass though? i would have thought it would still burn the ground? cracking idea mind and well worth considering for out and about.

jackcbr
12-01-2010, 21:52
I've got a work party in our wood this weekend and with all the snow I was wondering how I was going to get a fire going. Think I'll give this a go! Maybe photos to follow?

spiritwalker
12-01-2010, 22:09
i can reccommend the fire bowl it has mini legs and is raised from the ground but mainly for a solo fire / cooking pit but probably not what your after in this instance

Melonfish
13-01-2010, 14:40
Hmm, i may give this a go before i dissapear anywhere myself, build one in the back garden, plenty of fallen wood to scavange local for this.

Jimny
13-01-2010, 15:43
How about a swedish fire log ?? There is a picture on Waylands site that I've just found via google. It doesn't get much more simple than that

Dave