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Daegurth
02-01-2010, 18:10
...£22!

http://www.firebox.com/product/2388/

for a fiver's worth of materials and ten minutes of weaving! after reading through the reviews, getting steadily more depressed, i decided to write my own:


A friend just showed me this page, and I was shocked! This is daylight robbery! You can make two of these of the same quality for half the price with materials from your local craft shop and outdoor store (or ebay) and instructions freely available around the web. It's a pleasant way to spend a free half hour, and you get the satisfaction of having made it yourself.

This, to put it bluntly, is for posers with more money than sense.

i have a funny feeling it won't get accepted, but i tried. the townies will just have to throw their money away.

you can't fault the company, i suppose. if the customers are silly enough to pay £15 more than they need to, then exploiting them is almost an imperative.

on a related note, i'm making one now with these instructions: http://stormdranespbtutorial.blogspot .com/. i figured it would be more productive than internet flash games. :o

hiho
02-01-2010, 18:35
might have a go at making one when i can be bothered to order some stuff lol.
made one last feb and i'm still wearing it has just started to de colour, and that was with the cheapo cord

RAPPLEBY2000
02-01-2010, 18:45
you can always sell stuff to people if it saves them time or they haven't got one!
sad but true!

people have tried to buy, yes BUY natural flint, my area of the country theres so much of the stuff older buildings are made from it including a city wall and hundreds of churches (if not thousands)
go to the coast and there are scenes like this: (yes, its nearly all flint!)
http://www.go4awalk.com/walkphotographs/mikefry1.jpg

lol, best way to make money produce stuff people buy!;)

_scorpio_
02-01-2010, 19:19
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ELECTRIC-BLUE-550-Paracord-Para-Cord-100ft-US-Spec_W0QQitemZ280445969726QQcm dZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomai n_3?hash=item414be1e53e#ht_103 5wt_958

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/10-X-D-SHACKLE-STEEL-CHAIN-LINK-GALVANISED-ZP-3-16-5MM_W0QQitemZ260479146580QQcmd ZViewItemQQptZUK_DIY_Material_ Nails_Fixing_MJ?hash=item3ca5c 45a54#ht_500wt_749
TA-DA
lol

_scorpio_
02-01-2010, 19:24
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/550-PARACORD-BUSHCRAFT-BRACELET-KIT-YOUR-CHOICE_W0QQitemZ250527250962QQ cmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDom ain_3?hash=item3a54967a12#ht_3 792wt_752
some people need a "how to use eBay" guide...

Tye Possum
02-01-2010, 20:39
Ya that's a bit much for something like that. They're really not hard to make, once you find a tutorial for one that you like, the rest is easy. That closure doesn't look that great either, I'd rather have a button or just a knot there than a big chunk of metal.

Of course some people just don't want to have to bother making one themselves so ordering one is an easier option, but of course if you can't be bothered doing a bit of braiding or weaving or whatever, then how are you going to know how to tie your knots when you really need that paracord.

Daegurth
02-01-2010, 21:04
scorpio and tye possum: exactly!

i've just finished mine, i got half way through and then realised that i'd made it an inch short. i'll post a picture later or tomorrow.

kINGPIN
03-01-2010, 00:07
Whenever i have a quick look on ebay and see king alfred cakes for fire lighting being sold it always makes me laugh. Who buys a natural ushcraft item when they can be found in most woods?

Mesquite
03-01-2010, 00:17
Whenever i have a quick look on ebay and see king alfred cakes for fire lighting being sold it always makes me laugh. Who buys a natural ushcraft item when they can be found in most woods?

Trouble is there are some areas that they can't be found which is why some people buy them

helixpteron
03-01-2010, 00:36
The fifth reviewer mentioned Stormdranes tutorial site and received thanks from the seller for doing so.

No one is compelled to buy them, they choose to do so, at that price, its not exploitation, its the free market.

If, as you say, you can't blame the company, why try to ruin their sales?

64 customer reviews, all rating the bracelet highly, and what makes you think that they're all "townies"?

Melonfish
03-01-2010, 12:23
heh, had two friends round just before christmas, quick wrist measurement and i had two knocked up in 10-15 mins whilst chatting away. they're both well pleased ;)
because i was practicing them in work a colleague got interested and ended up making one for his m8 (secret santa thing) along with a playing card wallet.

Daegurth
03-01-2010, 15:29
The fifth reviewer mentioned Stormdranes tutorial site and received thanks from the seller for doing so.

No one is compelled to buy them, they choose to do so, at that price, its not exploitation, its the free market.

If, as you say, you can't blame the company, why try to ruin their sales?

64 customer reviews, all rating the bracelet highly, and what makes you think that they're all "townies"?

huh. i missed the link, my mistake.

i figured i'd help save some people some money and gain a skill at the same time. the company's profit margins aren't my concern; if they can rip people off and get positive reviews, more power to them.

because if they all bought the bracelet from there, it means a) they didn't shop around to find a version for less than a fifth of the price, b) they didn't already know the (low) value of paracord, and c) didn't see from the picture that it was actually a fairly simple weave that would most likely be found in books or on the internet. a combination of laziness, ineptitude and ignorance that has evolved in the people who choose to live in the places where everything is handed to you... cities.

Wallenstein
03-01-2010, 17:35
because if they all bought the bracelet from there, it means a) they didn't shop around to find a version for less than a fifth of the price, b) they didn't already know the (low) value of paracord, and c) didn't see from the picture that it was actually a fairly simple weave that would most likely be found in books or on the internet. a combination of laziness, ineptitude and ignorance that has evolved in the people who choose to live in the places where everything is handed to you... cities.
I wonder how many posters on BCUK are posting on computers they bought off-the-shelf from PC World or Dell etc, rather than ones they built themselves from scratch components?

Certainly hope yours is all built from individual parts, as if it's not it means a) you didn't shop around to find the parts for much cheaper prices, b) you didn't already know the (low) value of PC components, and c) didn't know that it's actually a fairly simple task that you can find online or in books

We've been over this before - just because someone chooses to buy off-the-shelf and not spend the time making their own knife/hammock/boots/stove doesn't mean they are an ignorant townie - any more than a gamekeeper who buys a PC from PC World isn't an ignorant rural bumpkin (which a lot of the tech-savvy townies I know would suggest).

;)

Still, always worth posting the stormdrane link again.. I have 100ft of paracord arriving next week, so I think I'll have a crack at a bracelet or two.

helixpteron
03-01-2010, 22:17
the company's profit margins aren't my concern; if they can rip people off and get positive reviews, more power to them.


The "people", their customers, did not get ripped off, customers that get "ripped off" do not post positive reviews!

If, as you say the company wanted to exploit and rip off their customers, explain why they allow a link to Stormdrane's Tutorial website, and thank the customer whom posted it. You will notice that even this customer did not post that he felt exploited or ripped off!

Check review #4, which clearly shows that the company allow reviews which openly question the cost, and advise others how to make their own. These are hardly the actions of an unethical company.


because if they all bought the bracelet from there, it means a) they didn't shop around to find a version for less than a fifth of the price, b) they didn't already know the (low) value of paracord, and c) didn't see from the picture that it was actually a fairly simple weave that would most likely be found in books or on the internet. a combination of laziness, ineptitude and ignorance that has evolved in the people who choose to live in the places where everything is handed to you... cities.

The only thing it means is that the customer bought what they wanted, from whom they wanted, at a price they were obviously happy to pay!

Your utterly ignorant remarks about the customers serve no constructive purpose, other than to nurture your evidently low self esteem!

_scorpio_
03-01-2010, 22:53
of all the things discussed on this forum, culling of wolves in Sweden, knife ban laws etc. your arguing about string...

hiho
03-01-2010, 23:01
of all the things discussed on this forum, culling of wolves in Sweden, knife ban laws etc. your arguing about string...
how long is this said pcie of string?

ordered my bits from ebay so gona make some more

launditch1
03-01-2010, 23:02
It isnt just any old string y'know...

Daegurth
03-01-2010, 23:15
I wonder how many posters on BCUK are posting on computers they bought off-the-shelf from PC World or Dell etc, rather than ones they built themselves from scratch components?

Certainly hope yours is all built from individual parts, as if it's not it means a) you didn't shop around to find the parts for much cheaper prices, b) you didn't already know the (low) value of PC components, and c) didn't know that it's actually a fairly simple task that you can find online or in books

We've been over this before - just because someone chooses to buy off-the-shelf and not spend the time making their own knife/hammock/boots/stove doesn't mean they are an ignorant townie - any more than a gamekeeper who buys a PC from PC World isn't an ignorant rural bumpkin (which a lot of the tech-savvy townies I know would suggest).

;)

Still, always worth posting the stormdrane link again.. I have 100ft of paracord arriving next week, so I think I'll have a crack at a bracelet or two.

i'm posting from a customised dell laptop as no one made a laptop to my specification, but you make a valid point. i should know better than to generalise.

i think it was the shock of someone making a blatant 500% profit on something and still getting a large number of rave reviews. ;)

this reminds me, i'm going to get a picture of the bracelet i made last night while i'm thinking about it.

hiho
03-01-2010, 23:26
good idea. just noticed mine has 2 odd bits where i went off from the norm

Daegurth
04-01-2010, 01:00
here's mine:

http://daegurth.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/mg_2033.jpg

opinel no.7 for size comparison for those not metrically minded. :)

Wallenstein
04-01-2010, 10:46
here's mine:

http://daegurth.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/mg_2033.jpg

opinel no.7 for size comparison for those not metrically minded. :)
nice one goodjob
out of interest how much cord did you need for that?

Daegurth
04-01-2010, 14:11
thanks. :) i didn't actually measure... at a guess, about 12 feet. maybe a little more.

hiho
04-01-2010, 14:56
don't you use 1ft of cord to 1 inch wrist size?
haven't got the time to go check :)

durulz
04-01-2010, 18:03
Well I've just sat down and made one of those.
It was the first time I'd made one, and the instructions were very simple to follow.
Took me about 30mins.
Not sure why you'd want to buy one of those - it really was very simple to do and making things is its own reward.
Still, if someone can't be bothered and would rather spend the money then...well, it's their cash. But if someone's foxed by making something that simple then I can only assume they wear slip-on shoes and someone else dresses them in the morning, because it can't be lack of time or skill requirement that's stopping them.
Ho hum. Each to their own.

shogun
05-01-2010, 04:03
thought i would give these paracord bracelets a go the paracord i have used isnt that good but here they are and they cost next too nothing...atb shogun
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n138/alza06/paracord.jpg