View Full Version : Whats your kit consist of?
Celtic Dragon
24-01-2005, 22:00
I've just assembled my kit for the Ashdown meet and it looks a little light compared to usual.
I've got it all in a 30l rucsac. Inc my Charcloth retorte which is a 500g coffee can.
Whats your kit consist of? And can you get it all in a ickle rucsac?
beachlover
24-01-2005, 22:26
Blimey!
Does that include your sleeping kit and kip mat too, or are you just bringing a body bag and last will and testament?
So what is in your sack?
Squidders
24-01-2005, 22:29
My kit consists of the following and kinda just about fits in a 120ltr bergen :oops:
1 x small 1.5man tent
1 x cheap blacks sleeping bag
1 x foam sleep mat
1 x bit of foam sleep mat to sit on
1 x 12cm billy can
1 x leather possibles pouch
1 x poncho
1 x change of clothes including trainers
1 x personal FAK
1 x Army blanket
1 x basha including cord
1 x gas stove
1 x night vision scope
2 x little walkie talkie radios (thought I'd give them a try to test the range)
1 x MOD machete
some little bits and bobs, whistle, gps, torch, head lamp, food and water... To be honest most of the stuff is because it's cold and/or I wanted to have a play or allow others to have a play.
Joe
Celtic Dragon
24-01-2005, 22:32
In the sac is:
Axe
Knife (1floder, 1 sheath)
Hootchie
Billy can
Folding cooker
Head torch
Tobacco tin full of charcloth
Charcloth retorte
Field dressing (no FAK as I can't find it)
Pan
Soon to be billy can full of birch bark
My sleeping bag wouldn't even fit in this rucsac
beachlover
24-01-2005, 22:37
phew! plenty of stuff then!
what are you doing about grub?
Squidders
24-01-2005, 22:38
bivvy bag celtic? it's going to be a little cold.
Celtic Dragon
24-01-2005, 22:41
phew! plenty of stuff then!
what are you doing about grub?
Believe it or not, I haven't thought of that. It will be something easy in tesco's on my way down.
Everytime I've been out bushing it before the rifle takes care of food.
if i was going :( it would be this probably.. with more food and clothes added..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/tomwhite101/DSCF0057.jpg
oh yeh and my Kata for ashdown!
arctic hobo
24-01-2005, 22:46
In the sac is:
Axe
Knife (1floder, 1 sheath)
Hootchie
Billy can
Folding cooker
Head torch
Tobacco tin full of charcloth
Charcloth retorte
Field dressing (no FAK as I can't find it)
Pan
Soon to be billy can full of birch bark
My sleeping bag wouldn't even fit in this rucsac
No sleeping bag, no bivi bag... good luck, I hope you won't be too much of a burden on everyone when you get serious hypothermia. Or maybe you'll just go in your sleep :shock:
Celtic Dragon
24-01-2005, 22:52
No sleeping bag, no bivi bag... good luck, I hope you won't be too much of a burden on everyone when you get serious hypothermia. Or maybe you'll just go in your sleep :shock:
I'm not that dumb!!!!!! The tent and sleeping bag are in another rucsac, I would never be that dumb, I grew up in the welsh foot hills, and have seen people go down with hyperthermia. I would never leave myself without shelter or warmth.
arctic hobo
24-01-2005, 22:54
I was pulling your leg mate :o): sorry, couldn't resist, no hard feelings :biggthump
Celtic Dragon
24-01-2005, 23:01
Don't worry mate, I had a feeling you were, but this is a family forum and were (in my eyes atleast) quite right in posting what you did. You pointed out something that hopefully will cause flags for others remember.
Celtic Dragon
24-01-2005, 23:09
I'll just have to buy myself the Snugpak rocket system to get all my kit in 1 rucsac :D:D:D
I dont wanna sound like a mother hen but I'd suggest so clothes too!
Seriously I'd add a extra layer for the evenings/mornings as its gonna be a cold one. And a hat!
I'll go and get a photo up...(but as you all know that may take at least 239 days)
My basic weekend kit would be...small but perfectly formed...and remember, its what you do with it that counts...RM said that...im sure...;)
A knife (well knives)
A cheap billhook (sorry Jack i got it before i knew about woodland organics)
Hennessey
Vango ultralight
sharpening tools
billy can
cord
food
firesteel
probably more, can't remember off hand...
Given the current weather, I was investigating the logistics of bringing one of these. (http://www.villipohjola.fi/item.asp?Section=990&Item=643&Browser=ie&BrowserVer=6&img=1)
Realistically, I am going to have to find space for some of them (http://www.raymears.com/pictures/ACF18AC%2Ejpg) and a few of those. (http://www.hamac.net.nz/images/maxwell_house_sachet_2.jpg)
Paganwolf
24-01-2005, 23:38
Er got space for me in there Zambezi? (in the hut in the hut!!!!) :rolmao:
If we all bring some of this stuff (http://www.ajfirewood.com/bundle2.jpg) I cannot see us going cold.
Paganwolf
25-01-2005, 00:08
COOL!! (wispers,what is it :wink: ) do you pack it in your jacket for insulation? :?: :rolmao: :biggthump
ChrisKavanaugh
25-01-2005, 00:42
Becoming bound ( sometimes literally) to the limitations or conversely vastness of a central pack unit keeps us from thinking outside the box, er ruck. I have a german army daypack. Theres a poncho, Anorak and/or coat and sleeping pad lashed to the top, 9'x9' nylon sil tarp with premade lines and stakes protecting my chart(s) in the inside pocket. The twin side pockets hold water bottles. The slots formed by these pockets secure a Wetterling axe and small shovel. Spare clothing ( wool socks, Dachstein mittens, Balaclava, thermals, wool shirt ,trousers) takes up a goodly portion of the lower main. I have a large billy with my food, cup,spoon, matches and stove. A second Billy holds minimum toiletries and first aid. Now, on my person at all times I carry my whistle, signal mirror, torch, compass, firesteel, knife and diamond hone. I don't want to lose these essentials. My BIG, BULKY Wiggy sleeping bag in it's stuff sack is rigged with a shoulder strap and LOTS of paracord stuffed inside. On the other arm I have my hiking staff . I'm not Hienrich Harrer scaling the Himalayas or Rambo running through some 3rd world movie set with a M60 and 600 rounds. If I do have to traverse a bit of rough terrain that paracord allows me to go first and then belay my bag etc. afterwards. Unless I am specifically going on some major adventure demanding a single big unit for motility, the flexibility of looking like an overburdened dustbin is much easier. :pack:
Celtic Dragon
25-01-2005, 01:24
Thats the sort of look I usually am!!!! I just prefer everything in 1 sac. For ease of transportation I may just check everything in the large pac (light pollution be warned) and wander round with the forest with the day sac.
The sleeping bag is just soooooo big, it fills the bottom compartment of my Karrimor 80 litre sac, and thats in its stuff sac!!!!
Thats the sort of look I usually am!!!! I just prefer everything in 1 sac. For ease of transportation I may just check everything in the large pac (light pollution be warned) and wander round with the forest with the day sac.
The sleeping bag is just soooooo big, it fills the bottom compartment of my Karrimor 80 litre sac, and thats in its stuff sac!!!!
Thats a good system - it allows more versatility and scope. Nothing worse than setting up base camp and then having to lug your large sack everywhere if your out gathering food or materials or some such!! Its the combo I like to use anyway.
This is my pack in it's current incarnation.
CONDITIONS: Post rainy season Central Brazil. Warm & Wet conditions prevail. Nights are cool but not cold even at higher elevations. Thunderstorms possible.
BLADES
Tramontina machete 10 inch
Mora SWAK
SHELTER
Lightweight Bivy sack
US Army Poncho
US Army Poncho Liner
Paracord
Mosquito headnet
Bush hat
Thin leather gloves
Nylon Dry bag
WATER
PVC Filter
US Army Canteen w/ cup and stove sleeve
Galão de Emergência
Potable Aqua Plus on canteen
Potassium Permanganate back-up
60 ml syringe & 1 meter tube
2 liter Platypus bag
FIRE
Mini-Bic on canteen
BSA Hotspark Kit w/ tinder
2 Wetfire tinder cubes
NAVIGATION
Recta DP-2 Compass
Pace Counter
SIGNAL
Starflash mirror
Fox 40 Whistle
Inova LED
MEDICAL
Moleskin
FPS 40 sunblock
Chapstick
Ibuprophen
Without food or water the pack weighs just under 10 lbs.
greg2935
25-01-2005, 10:48
I do not want to tread on your toes, but may I suggest that a first aid kit would be quite important if you are taking your knife and axe?
Greg
bambodoggy
25-01-2005, 12:03
if i was going :( it would be this probably.. with more food and clothes added..
You're still coming to Ashdown aren't you Tomtom? If you don't I'll be the only harmonica player there and hopelessly out numbered by the dig gang!!! :yikes:
bambodoggy
25-01-2005, 12:09
Given the current weather, I was investigating the logistics of bringing one of these. (http://www.villipohjola.fi/item.asp?Section=990&Item=643&Browser=ie&BrowserVer=6&img=1)
I have a mate with a low-loader...... :rolmao: :rolmao: :rolmao: :wink:
Seriously...I wrote out my kit list the night before last and I've got heaps (as opposed to piles :naughty: )!!!! A tarp, a basha, a tripple hooped bivvi and a two man pup tent and only one body to go in them lol.... a lot of the kit I bring will stay in the car unless people want/need to borrow it or more importantly play with it! :lol: It's a change for me to be able to bring so much stuff to play with so I'm taking full advantage! :nana:
Celtic Dragon
25-01-2005, 12:23
I do not want to tread on your toes, but may I suggest that a first aid kit would be quite important if you are taking your knife and axe?
Greg
At the moment, (flame suit on) I can't find my old 1, I think it was either nicked when my car was done over, or the ex threw it out. I have asked a mate in the ambulance service to get me a replacement, I don't know when its turning up.
I do have a MOD field dressing packed though!!!
Thats the sort of look I usually am!!!! I just prefer everything in 1 sac. For ease of transportation I may just check everything in the large pac (light pollution be warned) and wander round with the forest with the day sac.
The sleeping bag is just soooooo big, it fills the bottom compartment of my Karrimor 80 litre sac, and thats in its stuff sac!!!!
Can I make a suggestion that you don't use a stuff sac if you want to fit more into your bag?? If you must use a bag use a bin liner or similar but not a stuff sac, they take up way too much space. If you pack your sleeping bag in as is, it'll mold to the bottom of the bag and then everything else just pushes in. I can fit easily twice as much into my bag by using this method.
bambodoggy
25-01-2005, 13:09
Can I make a suggestion that you don't use a stuff sac if you want to fit more into your bag?? If you must use a bag use a bin liner or similar but not a stuff sac, they take up way too much space. If you pack your sleeping bag in as is, it'll mold to the bottom of the bag and then everything else just pushes in. I can fit easily twice as much into my bag by using this method.
That's a very top tip and works very well.....but doesn't really work for me as I always pack my kit into a thick drybag inside my bergan - the issue dossbag inside it's stuffsac fits the bottom of my drybag perfectly! My TA Unit seemed to have a bit of a thing for cold water and getting us in it at any and every opportunity...and if they could get us to run to it and then back from it so much to the better!!!! :-P
That's a very top tip and works very well.....but doesn't really work for me as I always pack my kit into a thick drybag inside my bergan - the issue dossbag inside it's stuffsac fits the bottom of my drybag perfectly! My TA Unit seemed to have a bit of a thing for cold water and getting us in it at any and every opportunity...and if they could get us to run to it and then back from it so much to the better!!!! :-P
I'm looking at getting an ME drybag soon with the air valve on the side, you can put your sleeping bag inside this, stuff it into your sack and then stand on it, forcing it to the shape of the bag whilst getting all the air out, then do the valve up and it'll retain its shape.
greg2935
25-01-2005, 14:02
Well I guess everyone else will have a FAK so it is not so serious but I would never go anywhere without one if carrying an edged tool, especially alone: it is so easy to slip and slice through something vital irrespective how good and experienced you are. Knowing my karma I'll go and slice through my arm this weekend or something and will have forgotten to pack my FAK now!
Greg
bambodoggy
25-01-2005, 14:22
Well I guess everyone else will have a FAK so it is not so serious but I would never go anywhere without one if carrying an edged tool, especially alone: it is so easy to slip and slice through something vital irrespective how good and experienced you are. Knowing my karma I'll go and slice through my arm this weekend or something and will have forgotten to pack my FAK now!
Greg
No worries Matey....as I mentioned lower down I'll be bringing my basecamp FAK which is massive and has everything from a didle-I-doh to a Damned if I know! :o):
No worries Matey....as I mentioned lower down I'll be bringing my basecamp FAK which is massive and has everything from a didle-I-doh to a Damned if I know! :o):
I had one of those Kits during the ambulance strike!! :rolmao:
Thats the sort of look I usually am!!!! I just prefer everything in 1 sac. For ease of transportation I may just check everything in the large pac (light pollution be warned) and wander round with the forest with the day sac.
The sleeping bag is just soooooo big, it fills the bottom compartment of my Karrimor 80 litre sac, and thats in its stuff sac!!!!
what sleeping bag is it i only ask because i hope to get a -10nanok soon which i know will be big but will it fit in my swedish 35l which is big or will i have to get my sabre 45 + side pockets sooner gary mite be able to help because i think he has the same 35l sack.
Mal
Celtic Dragon
25-01-2005, 17:22
what sleeping bag is it i only ask because i hope to get a -10nanok soon which i know will be big but will it fit in my swedish 35l which is big or will i have to get my sabre 45 + side pockets sooner gary mite be able to help because i think he has the same 35l sack.
Mal
I have a Snugpak Eagle, its lovely and warm, never let me down yet, but its also 13 years old!!!!!! *eek* I've just remembered what it was bought for, and the ruckasc to go with it. Oh dear god, I feel old now!!!!
i dont know how big a nanok is rolls up but my army 90 pattern bag stuffs into my swedish 35l - in fact last time I used it I got a whole weekends gear including food in the sack!!
And if you can fit it in there a sabre45 will take it I would imagine.
Celtic Dragon
25-01-2005, 17:59
Sorry Mal, forgot the most important bit for you, the dimentions. In its stuff sac, without a compression sac on it it measures about 12 inches x 9 inches
cheers for that C/D and Gary i think the -10 Nanok is about the same as woodlores mid-range one whats the normal kit Gary you carry in your 35l i ask cause i fined it such a good sack i don't know if i should bother with the 45 sabre
No hard and fast rules - my kit changes with task and weather Mal but last time I was out for the weekend I took,
Sleeping bag,
bivi bag,
basha
Therma rest.
flask
1 Qrt canteen
metal mug
Billy can
clik stand and stove
wash kit + house wife + tube of steridex
poncho
Pre-mac pocket water filter
flint and steel set
Mosi headnet
GB Sharpening stone
Food and brew kit.
Knife
That about covers it I think.
That sounds good i want to save for one of those clickstand sets while i remember what bivi bag do you use do you sell them and are they good thanks Gary
That sounds good i want to save for one of those clickstand sets while i remember what bivi bag do you use do you sell them and are they good thanks Gary
Mal I use the green army bivi bag and yes they are very good, not a light as some of these pertex ones but more durable and waterproof imo. I have used mine for about 10years and have even used it as a floatation pack to swim across a lake!
are the modern army ones as good Gary
redcollective
26-01-2005, 01:39
Well I guess everyone else will have a FAK so it is not so serious but I would never go anywhere without one if carrying an edged tool, especially alone: it is so easy to slip and slice through something vital irrespective how good and experienced you are. Knowing my karma I'll go and slice through my arm this weekend or something and will have forgotten to pack my FAK now!
Greg
I'm told my (late) great uncle was a timber getter in New South Wales who used to live in the bush part-time and still used bullocks to haul timber out in his early days - he took off his big toe with an axe once (well you wouldn't do it again would you! :wink: )... imagine not having even the most basic FAK around if that happened!
I often walk in groups and have often thought at least one of us should be carrying a really good FAK, as I'm sure the most sophisticated thing we carry is a sticking-plaster.
No hard and fast rules - my kit changes with task and weather Mal but last time I was out for the weekend I took,
Sleeping bag,
bivi bag,
basha
Therma rest.
flask
1 Qrt canteen
metal mug
Billy can
clik stand and stove
wash kit + house wife + tube of steridex
poncho
Pre-mac pocket water filter
flint and steel set
Mosi headnet
GB Sharpening stone
Food and brew kit.
Knife
That about covers it I think.
does she mind? :shock:
are the modern army ones as good Gary
Ive never tried one mate - I wwould imagine they're the same just camo and cost more.
paul in swindon
27-01-2005, 20:35
My kit is quite large but i think its all there if i miss sommat let me know LOL
all fits in my 85 ltr bergan !!
Knifes 1 folder 1 fixed
axe
FAK
canadian army artic sleeping bag in a bivi (gortex )
billy can
crusader mug
hexi stove
para cord
head torch (batts included )
basha
thermarest
cold waether stuff (hat mitts long jons )
towel
spare spectacles!!!!
possibles pouch
fire lighting kit
folding saw
sharpening kit
water bottle( pre mac )
millbank bag
and a few bits and bobs
Justin Time
28-01-2005, 08:53
I've split some of the more social chatter into a new thread and moved it to the meetups and social chatter forum. I've renamed it " More Ashdown chatter from the kit thread" and you can find it here (http://www.bushcraftuk.net/community/showthread.php?t=5053)
Cheers Justin, well not to worry as there will be no more OFFICIAL Ashdown chatter now the weekend is upon us as from now on it will all be done esle where.
Unofficial chatter however.......... :shock:
Justin Time
28-01-2005, 09:47
Enjoy yourselves.... (oops is that social chatter?)