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bandel4
04-09-2009, 05:49
Hi...I have been contemplating the idea of an axe.
GB is out of the question coz they cost too much for me.

One of the local hardware stores in Malaysia now carries Fiskars products.
Am contemplating the below.

The 14" hatchet
http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo256/bandel4/7850_t.jpg



The 8" hatchet
http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo256/bandel4/7855_t.jpg



The Brush Axe seems like a billhook, caught my attention as well but this unit I have to order :(
http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo256/bandel4/7860_t.jpg


Can anyone share their personal experience using them?
Thoughts, comments please.

Many thanks in advance

Chinkapin
04-09-2009, 06:58
I have the 8in hatchet. Mine came under the Gerber name but it is the same hatchet. the only difference is mine has an all black handle.

I keep mine in my truck all the time. I have bigger hatchets, but it will chop anything that you would ordinarily use a hatchet for.

I feel that the steel is superior to that of the other hatchets that I have and some of them are good ones including a Plumb.

The angle is nice on the blade for splitting and the back side can be used as a hammer, although I would only hammer on wood and not pound on steel if I were you.

Many people will look at the 8incher and think that it is too small but i disagree. I think the 14 incher is too long in the handle and will be clumsy feeling to use and difficult to carry on a belt or pack. To me it looks more like a mini-axe.

Remember, if we were wanting an axe, we would be looking at axes. If you can have the dealer let you pick it up and handle it for a bit. See how each of them feel in you hand. This will give you a fairly good idea as to whether or not they feel like you could use them for splitting kindling, trimming off branches etc. My Gerber was razor sharp when I got it.

Frankly, I don't see much use for the bush hook for most people. But I could be wrong. I have been in the past, at least according to my wife!

jean baptiste
04-09-2009, 07:12
hi
i have many axes , i don't like the fiskars, they are not well balanced it' s dangerous, steel is not enough hard so many time to sharpening
there only good for the garden . for the same price you can keep a westerlings

MartiniDave
04-09-2009, 08:09
I've got one of the little 8" ones, branded as Wilkinson Sword, bought cheap at the local garden centre. I often use it around the shoot, where I might need it either as an axe or a hammer. The balance is a bit different to a traditional axe, but it works well enough. I have been tempted to get the 14" one too, but don't really need it as I have others of a similar size.

I did wonder if the hollow handle on the 14" model would be a handy storage place for a few survival type items in a bag of some sort?

Dave

subedarmajor
04-09-2009, 08:36
I've got the brush hook and it's alright so far for light chopping and splitting.
This week I've been using it to rough out some carving projects in beech.
I also used it to split the the log (about 3-4" diameter) and it's performed well.

Oh and I haven't broken it yet. ;-)

Cheers, Alan.

P.S. It'll also feather wood if you put a good edge on it, it is a little cumbersom for the job but it'll do it.

bandel4
04-09-2009, 09:44
Hi Chinkapin...I will take your advise on 'trying' out the hatchet. I was thinking the 8" would be more compact too. Am thinking of using it mainly for some carving and chopping.

Dave...good idea with the hollow handle. I was thinking of shoving an 'extension' piece if I ever need to make the 8" longer. You reckon that would work? Heck, having a small kit stuffed away inside is a brilliant!

Alan...Fiskars says the brush axe comes with a sheath but they never include the sheath on their site. Any chance of pics?

Pavaise
04-09-2009, 21:30
I've got one of the little 8" ones, branded as Wilkinson Sword, bought cheap at the local garden centre.

Same here, mine was very sharp when I got it and still has a good edge. Balance and grip is not the best but for the size/type/price it's been a winner for me. I do have several others though so don't need to depend on it alone.

spamel
04-09-2009, 23:17
My brother carries a Gerber/Fiskars axe when he deploys to Norway. He reckons it is a great tool for smashing through ice for fishing and water collection.

helixpteron
05-09-2009, 00:13
...... good idea with the hollow handle. I was thinking of shoving an 'extension' piece if I ever need to make the 8" longer. You reckon that would work? Heck, having a small kit stuffed away inside is a brilliant!......

I really would not be inclined to extend the (hollow) shaft of the 8" hatchet by "shoving an 'extension' piece" into it!

subedarmajor
11-09-2009, 20:51
Alan...Fiskars says the brush axe comes with a sheath but they never include the sheath on their site. Any chance of pics?

It's not a "sheath" as such, more of a hanging/carrying bracket that can be mounted to a wall.

It's black plastic with a clip that retains the blade and a lug that fits through the hole in the blade.

I'll post some pics later.

I got mine at B&Q so if they're at your local store they should have the sheath.

Cheers, Alan.

subedarmajor
11-09-2009, 20:53
I just looked at your details...I don't think that they have a B&Q there do they?

Chinkapin
12-09-2009, 05:18
The sheath on my Gerber is made of heavy Codura (sp?) nylon. The hatchet drops into the sheath handle first and there is a hole in the bottom for the handle to come through. The blade is completely surrounded by the sheath and a flap closes over the top and velcros shut. There are belt loops on the back for carrying it on your belt. It does carry quite nicely.

I don't think that you should attempt to extend the handle under any circumstances as it will undoubtedly fly off and probably hurt you or someone else.

I found my handle to be entirely too slick. Frankly, I don't know what they were thinking when they approved that handle. Mine has flew out of my had several times. I cured this problem by wrapping the handle with some fairly small, but strong nylon cord that I had. It made a grip that was not slippery or cold and had a much better "tactile" feel about it. Unless you have REALLY big hands paracord it too thick to use - - i tried it first, and the handle was simply too thick and didn't feel right in my hand.

The handle as a storage area is a good idea. I toyed with this idea myself, but could never come up with a way of closing up the hole in the bottom that was "elegant" enough to suit me. everything I tried just looked too cobbled up. There are some other brands of hatchets that have a very similar hollow handle with a knife that stores in the handle. Quite clever really.

belzeebob23
12-09-2009, 07:02
have you had a look at this one
http://www.husqvarnachainsaws.co.uk/acatalog/Husqvarna_hatchet_35cm.html
Ive found it ot be well ballanced and not to expensive
Scott

subedarmajor
12-09-2009, 15:35
I found my handle to be entirely too slick. Frankly, I don't know what they were thinking when they approved that handle. Mine has flew out of my had several times. I cured this problem by wrapping the handle with some fairly small, but strong nylon cord that I had.

You could also try the tape that tennis players use to bind their racket handles.

sargey
12-09-2009, 22:46
well i've got all the tools mentioned. actually i sold the miniature thing. the brush hook works great. it's much lighter than a billhook, it's a billhook shaped machete.

if you're specifically looking for a hatchet, i'd definately go for the 14 inch version. the little version is ok if you really can't store the normal hatchet sized handle. like in a seat pack survival kit or some such. in use the little "back pax" is a horror compared to the longer one. the dinky little handle is a shortcut to bruised and skinned knuckles.

the fiskars hatchets and axes are very under-rated tools. if anyone wants to moan about their lack of "balance". i'd have to point them in the direction of the new outdoors axe by gransfors, it's every bit as poorly balanced. but also a great little tool. the plastic handles are all but indestructable and completely weather proof. the other advantage with the fiskars axes is that you don't need to sit in front of a crate of them sifting through until you find a decent one, where the edge is parralel with the rest of the head and the head lines up with the helve satisifactorily. the fiskars axes are ready to go out of the box. they don't need a few hours of grinding to get straight.

there's a review round here somewhere with a few hints and tips on how to modify the plastic mask to make it a bit more rucksack friendly.

cheers, and.

Chinkapin
13-09-2009, 04:50
Subedamajor: That Husky hatchet looks pretty nice for that price. I dont know if any of you have ever used any Japanese tools or not. but here is a pic of one: www.garrettwade.com/product.asp?pn=11P23.06&sid=W6600073&eid=Japanese (http://www.garrettwade.com/product.asp?pn=11P23.06&sid=W6600073&eid=Japanese)

I have only used the garden tools. But to say that I love them would be an understatement. It is hard to describe Japanese tools. They are often made quite different than anything from Europe or America. They are light, small, yet sturdy and always very effective in what they do. I think I may get this hatchet.

subedarmajor
13-09-2009, 15:48
Subedamajor: That Husky hatchet looks pretty nice for that price. I dont know if any of you have ever used any Japanese tools or not. but here is a pic of one: www.garrettwade.com/product.asp?pn=11P23.06&sid=W6600073&eid=Japanese (http://www.garrettwade.com/product.asp?pn=11P23.06&sid=W6600073&eid=Japanese)

I have only used the garden tools. But to say that I love them would be an understatement. It is hard to describe Japanese tools. They are often made quite different than anything from Europe or America. They are light, small, yet sturdy and always very effective in what they do. I think I may get this hatchet.

No, I've never used any Japanese tools. They do look nice and comfortable to use, however I'm on a bit of a home grown kick at the moment. ;)
I get very concerned about the amount of fuel used in geting things from A-B, though that is not a topic for this thread.

I also like to explore the possibilities of tools from current locale.

I've not heard the term "husky hatchet" before, are you refering to the bill hook or the long handled hatchet?

Cheers, Alan.

Peter_t
13-09-2009, 16:09
husky is slang for husqvarna

pete

subedarmajor
13-09-2009, 20:16
Thankyou kindly.

bandel4
14-09-2009, 01:07
I just looked at your details...I don't think that they have a B&Q there do they?


Hi...nope. No B&Q here :(
The only place that carries the hatchet here at the moment is an upscale hardware store. Compared to the internet, I am looking at paying double after conversion!
Then again there's all the shipping & tax involved.

Thanks everyone for your comments & time.

I reckon I am gonna give it a go. Buy meself a birthday gift!

Chinkapin
14-09-2009, 02:25
Sorry about that "Husky" business. At one time, Husqvarna dominated in off road motorcycle racing, Baja 1000, Six-day trials, enduros, etc here in America and everyone just called them "Huskies" for short. I rudely forgot that not everyone would be familiar with that slang. Sorry.

On the other hand, I'm still trying to figure out where "Moot" comes from for a group camping meet, and exactly what a "bimble" is. LOL.

subedarmajor
14-09-2009, 08:36
Chinkapin: Not to worry old chap!

To the best of my knowledge (which is admitedly a little sparce in some areas), "moot" is a throwback to old or middle english meening meet.

A "bimble" is basicly the same as a ramble, though in my book it has less purpose and is therefore greatly superior ;). It's origins I believe are military (Brit) and refer to patrolling, particularly in the countryside.

If I'm wrong on either count I'm sure someone will step in to put me straight.

Cheers, Alan.

Chinkapin
14-09-2009, 22:38
Thanks Subedamajor, I should have made the connection to "meet." I'm always fascinated with word origins. Slang words are also very fascinating (at least those that last) many seem to come and go quite quickly. American English is filled with slang expressions and I thought we might have more than anyone until I started being a regular on this website! I think British English has just about as many.

I'm particularly fascinated with those that have migrated across the Atlantic (both directions.) I occasionally see Brits on here using slang expressions that originated here and I hear and use words that came from your side. For example just a couple of years ago one would never have heard an American say "shut your pie hole" or "shut your gob" but I have heard both recently. As far as I know these are both Britishisms.

subedarmajor
15-09-2009, 09:13
We've borrowed/stolen a lot of words from the far flung corners of the former empire.
Take kushti and kosher for example. The former is from Urdu and refers to something that is good or favourable and kosher is Hebrew in origin referring to something that is of sound provenance.

Cheers, Alan. (Now finished derailing the thread)