View Full Version : New Sheath available for RM knives....
CM Burns
22-12-2004, 12:31
The Ray Mears site has removed the "What's New" fucntion but sadly i can spot if there's been any additions to each of the shop categories as i know the number of items in each :roll:
so i saw this just now:
Hand-stitched belt sheath for whetstone/firestick
Price: £59.95 (inc VAT)
No picture available
This hand-stitched belt sheath comes complete with an integral pocket to house your DC3 whetstone and firestick. It will fit both the Wilkinson Sword Woodlore Knives, maple and micarta handle.
Please note that this sheath will not fit the WK1 Woodlore Knife made by Alan Wood.
Should you wish to purchase this sheath for the Alan Wood Knife please call our office on +44 (0)1580 819668 for further details.
whitebuffalo
22-12-2004, 12:39
Bargin, a sheath thats almost the same price as the knife :yikes: I'll be sticking to my Allan Blade I think.
sandbender
22-12-2004, 17:42
For anyone interested in seeing this sheath...
I have an early prototype, I cannot be certain that the one now being sold is identical, however it will give people an idea of what it should look like.
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c124/sandbender/bushcraft/tools/woodlore_sheath_001.png
Instructions for setting up this kind of paracord arrangement may be viewed here (http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40513).
I'd rather just get an F1 and thus have two knives so I wouldn't need the stone
For anyone interested in seeing this sheath...
I have an early prototype, I cannot be certain that the one now being sold is identical, however it will give people an idea of what it should look like.
Image has been posted to...
http://homepage.mac.com/andrewrush/Pictures/Misc/Sheath.jpg
Cool :biggthump Where did you manage to pick up a bit of prototype Woodlore Kit?
sandbender
23-12-2004, 00:05
Cool :biggthump Where did you manage to pick up a bit of prototype Woodlore Kit?
Right place right time I guess, I was on a Woodlore course in June, a couple of the Fallkniven stones were produced and it was mentioned that Woodlore were planning on selling them, someone else asked "if there were plans to produce a sheath with a pocket for the small one", the answer was "yes, I think so" at which point I ordered one.
I think I may have speeded things along a bit by posting my Knife to the office so that the sheath could be built around it.
Six months later I find that the stone which slots into the sheath is used only occasionally, its a little too small for regular use, but it's always with the knife, unlike the larger stone which sits in my pack, which is handy I guess.
One tip I was given at the time...
To keep the stone stable when sharpening in the field always carry four small carpet tacks or nails, hammer them into a split log or similar to hold each corner of the stone.
Surely 3 tacks would be easier to level?
(sorry Shirley)
sandbender
23-12-2004, 00:42
Surely 3 tacks would be easier to level?
(sorry Shirley)
Sorry I'm writing too fast and not making myself clear...
The stone sits on the wooden surface of the log and the tacks are hammered in at the corners, locking it into position.
and don't call me shirley...
Ahh KISS in action.
Surely the idea of a small pocket stone is you use it in the hand - all you then need is a knife, a hand and a stone. After all your touching the blade up not carrying out full field maintainance or are you?
sandbender
23-12-2004, 08:39
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c124/sandbender/bushcraft/tools/woodlore_sheath_001.png
Instructions for setting up this kind of paracord arrangement may be viewed here (http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40513).
Sandbender - now I see where your coming from!! With the stone in the hand try using a circular motion like you would for your axe, this gives you more control and is safer. Remember to strop too, in fact in many cases just stropping a edge will refresh it without the need to use the stone.
Thanks for the warning! :biggthump Glad you like em.
Hand-stitched belt sheath for whetstone/firestick
Price: £59.95 (inc VAT)
:yikes: Has the world gone mad? :yikes:
I ddn't know going back to nature costs so much.
Well, I'm not sure the price is all that far out of alignment. I've made a few sheaths and if someone had paid me that kind of money for one, I would have made around $3 per hour. :o): Given that it's handstitched, I reckon it takes a bit of time to get it right. Also, I'm sure I couldn't make one that nice.
What I don't get about the design is that, if you pass all that rope around and around, what does it look like on the backside? Seems like it would interfere with the belt loop on the back. Is there a pic of it from the back?
What I don't get about the design is that, if you pass all that rope around and around, what does it look like on the backside? Seems like it would interfere with the belt loop on the back. Is there a pic of it from the back?
Is it not designed to be worn underarm slung across the shoulder?
Martin
sandbender
23-12-2004, 13:57
[QUOTE=Gary]Remember to strop too, in fact in many cases just stropping a edge will refresh it without the need to use the stone.[QUOTE=Gary]
Thanks Gary
And Christmas is bringing me a suitably large leather belt...
sandbender
23-12-2004, 14:31
...I don't get about the design is that, if you pass all that rope around and around, what does it look like on the backside? Seems like it would interfere with the belt loop on the back....
The slot you see next to the firestick is the beltloop, This is a kind of 'old world' type attachment method used in Europe in the middle ages and still used in Scandinavian countries today. I presume Ray picked up on this design while traveling in the frozen North...
The idea is that the knife sits behind the belt and is doubly secure because of this.
I bought my Woodlore knife quite a while back (so long ago in fact that there was no waiting list!) and I never really liked this method of carry.
However it was about a year later that I saw Ray on TV carrying the knife on a cord under his arm, this I'm led to believe is also a popular method of carry in the Scandinavia, and was once common in Scotland (sgian achlais). I have carried the knife in this fashion ever since (when in the wild) and find it works for me.
I will get around to subscribing soon so that I can post images, but in the meantime, here is a pic showing the sheath being carried under my arm.
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c124/sandbender/bushcraft/tools/woodlore_sheath_under_arm.png
Instructions for setting up this kind of paracord arrangement may be viewed here (http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40513).
sandbender
23-12-2004, 14:39
Expense...
Yes it is a bit pricey, however it is very well made and will last me a lifetime, The previous sheath had traveled for thousands of miles across Europe and Turkey through wind, rain and snow, it showed no signs of falling apart and now enjoys a new life having replaced the belt sheath a friend had bought with his WL knife.
I understand that all Woodlore leather-work is done by one very overworked woman.
rapidboy
13-01-2005, 23:04
I can't see the pic's does anyone have a pic of this ??
rb
tenbears10
13-01-2005, 23:09
pm Sandbender for the pics Rapidboy. Even woodlore haven't put up a pic on the site yet.
Bill
rapidboy
13-01-2005, 23:12
Will do :biggthump
on the topic of this sheath... if the AW woodlore and WS woodlore are the same design.. how come this only fits the WS?
I believe the design changed slightly from the first ones to the current ones. This means that some older AW knives wont fit the sheaths
sandbender
14-01-2005, 00:01
Whoops! sorry about that, links should work again, however you may have to click reload as you browser may try to show the earlier page it has cached.
rapidboy
14-01-2005, 07:50
Cheers :biggthump
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/NewWoodloreSheath.jpg
beach bum
14-01-2005, 21:03
Something I've been meaning to ask, what is the purpose of the punched hole at the bottom of the woodlore's sheath ? :?:
regards
beach bum
Buckshot
17-01-2005, 08:46
Something I've been meaning to ask, what is the purpose of the punched hole at the bottom of the woodlore's sheath ? :?:
Decoration I think
tenbears10
17-01-2005, 10:52
http://homepage.mac.com/andrewrush/Pictures/Misc/Carry.jpg
The pic shows the sheath carried underarm and the hole a the bottom is the second attachment point I think.
Bill
Edit to the above, the carry loop clearly goes nowhere near the lower hole but that is what I thought it could be used for and I didn't look at the pic in rapidboys post closely enough :roll:
The slot you see next to the firestick is the beltloop, This is a kind of 'old world' type attachment method used in Europe in the middle ages and still used in Scandinavian countries today.
Well, of course it is!! Doh! I should have realized that from the git go. :lol: It is a style that was also popular in the new world as mountain men often carried their knives that way. I was thrown off by the paracord. So I can definitely assume that there is no belt loop on the back side of the sheath?
http://www4.gvsu.edu/triert/images9/redriver1b.jpg
sandbender
17-01-2005, 14:14
No, there is no belt loop on the reverse, when worn on the belt the knife carrying part of the sheath sits under the belt. I never carry it in this fashion preferring to have it under my arm. The knots on the neck cord can 'slip' allowing me to hold the knife tightly under arm or to 'dangle slightly' if I'm laying down under my hootchie or similar.
If I want wear the knife on my belt when I'm working around camp, a bit of jiggery-pokery with the neck cord turns it into a low slung belt loop.