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Silverclaws
24-07-2009, 03:38
I know how to effectively sharpen a blade, even honing and stropping as my face bears witness the good action of my straight razor, but I have a question regarding the sharpening of my other blades.

My blades consist of a Morris Newton billhook, a bi-metal Frosts Mora, an Opinel No9 lock knife and a Leatherman juice Xe6. I have searched and selected my blades for the tasks I have in mind, what I have uses for and wish not to have any more blades than this,(though I do possess blades as tools for my crafts). What I need, is a sharpening stone or kit that will do for the blades listed. There is so much out there, but I am clueless as to what might be useful for my needs. I am ideally looking for something which has different grades of abrasive all in one sharpening tool, is there anything available and does not cost the earth ?

And to add, another requirement, the kit or multi sharpener needs to be portable and kept with my tools, too big or too fussy in use, it is likely it will be left behind.

Oh as a side note, I found the bi-metal mora in it's leather sheath in an abandoned saw mill in the forest of Sweden, pitted with rust it was, but cleaned now, it is just superb.

Tadpole
24-07-2009, 07:05
I know how to effectively sharpen a blade, even honing and stropping as my face bears witness the good action of my straight razor, but I have a question regarding the sharpening of my other blades.

My blades consist of a Morris Newton billhook, a bi-metal Frosts Mora, an Opinel No9 lock knife and a Leatherman juice Xe6. I have searched and selected my blades for the tasks I have in mind, what I have uses for and wish not to have any more blades than this,(though I do possess blades as tools for my crafts). What I need, is a sharpening stone or kit that will do for the blades listed. There is so much out there, but I am clueless as to what might be useful for my needs. I am ideally looking for something which has different grades of abrasive all in one sharpening tool, is there anything available and does not cost the earth ?

And to add, another requirement, the kit or multi sharpener needs to be portable and kept with my tools, too big or too fussy in use, it is likely it will be left behind.

Oh as a side note, I found the bi-metal mora in it's leather sheath in an abandoned saw mill in the forest of Sweden, pitted with rust it was, but cleaned now, it is just superb.From personal experence I say you need not a lot more than to follow British Reds Advice and his £5 sharpening kit (http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11571)

robin wood
24-07-2009, 08:35
Well from the little I know about folks that sharpen straight razors you'll not be doing that on and old carburundum stone, what do you have already? What grit series of what type of stones do you use? What are you looking for that you have not got?

If you have a good sharpening set up for bench sharpening and what you are asking for is a portable system for field touching up then a DC4 is a good option. http://www.greenmanbushcraft.co.uk/cutting-tools/fallkniven-dc4-diamondceramic-whetstone-.htm

British Red
24-07-2009, 08:44
The DC4 is a good option - although personally I now tend to use a duafold sharpener by DMT - its a folding sharpener with handles and keeps the fingers away from the blade of bill hooks etc. Bening longer than a DC4 it also allows a better sweep of knife blades etc.

Import from the US if you want one though - far cheaper!

For home sharpening I just use wet and dry in a £5 sharpening kit way as discussed

Red

Silverclaws
24-07-2009, 10:22
[QUOTE=robin wood;564284]Well from the little I know about folks that sharpen straight razors you'll not be doing that on and old carburundum stone, what do you have already? What grit series of what type of stones do you use? What are you looking for that you have not got?

If you have a good sharpening set up for bench sharpening and what you are asking for is a portable system for field touching up then a DC4 is a good option. http://www.greenmanbushcraft.co.uk/cutting-tools/fallkniven-dc4-diamondceramic-whetstone-.htm[/QUOTE

How do I sort out my straight razor, well, I use nothing other than the hone on my Rolls Razor. Slip the stone out of it's back and get to work with the addition of 3-in-1 oil as a lube.. Stropping is an old leather belt with the Rolls Razor red strop compound rubbed in. Basically the razor rouge is jewellers rouge mixed with an oil, I have made it before from my jewellery making rouge and grease.

I do like the £5 sharpening kit idea, especially the developed sharpening book idea, I will look into that.

Mr Adoby
24-07-2009, 11:23
I use the EdgePal Basic. It is built around a DC3 stone and is easily collapsable and carried in a small leather pouch. SEK 550:-

It handles most types of knife-blades, as long as they have parallell sides in the back, so the clamp gets the right angle. You can get amazing results!

http://upload.snelhest.org/images/090724bs1018c.jpg

http://translate.google.se/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.edgepal.com %2Fproducts-basic-se.html&sl=sv&tl=en&history_state0=

(The English parts of the site hasn't been updated for a few ears, so I link to a Google Translate of the more current Swedish part. No relation, just a pleased customer.)

Silverclaws
24-07-2009, 12:10
That thing is pretty cool, thanks for making me aware of it. I will also pass the information on to the Swedish part of my family, it might make a good xmas present

leon-1
24-07-2009, 12:24
Very similar to the Lansky systems with the obvious difference that you can use seperate abrasives.

Native Justice
24-07-2009, 19:54
I use the EdgePal Basic. It is built around a DC3 stone and is easily collapsable and carried in a small leather pouch. SEK 550:-

It handles most types of knife-blades, as long as they have parallell sides in the back, so the clamp gets the right angle. You can get amazing results!

http://upload.snelhest.org/images/090724bs1018c.jpg

http://translate.google.se/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.edgepal.com %2Fproducts-basic-se.html&sl=sv&tl=en&history_state0=

(The English parts of the site hasn't been updated for a few ears, so I link to a Google Translate of the more current Swedish part. No relation, just a pleased customer.)
Take a look at the DMT model in the Magna Guide Quad. Uses two dual grit Dia fold sharpeners with a guide that can also be used with a bench stone. I learned to freehand with this device. You can also just get the guide for benchstone use for about ten bucks or so. Well worth the money which ever you decide to purchase. And yes I really like their product, it just doesn't wear out. :deal: :present: :lmao:

http://theconsumerlink.com/DIAMONDMACHININGTECHNOLOGY/detail/TCL+DMGEF/16

http://theconsumerlink.com/DIAMONDMACHININGTECHNOLOGY/detail/TCL+DMG%2D4/16

http://theconsumerlink.com/DIAMONDMACHININGTECHNOLOGY/detail/TCL+DMG/16

http://theconsumerlink.com/DIAMONDMACHININGTECHNOLOGY/list/GUIDKITS/118

actual pricing :

http://www.eknifeworks.com/webapp/eCommerce/product.jsp?Mode=Cat&Brand=&CatalogName=&PriceStart=&PriceEnd=&Feature=&Cat=96&filter=&SearchText=dmt+magna+guide&Submit.x=0&Submit.y=0&list=10&SKU=DMGEF

http://www.eknifeworks.com/webapp/eCommerce/product.jsp?Mode=Cat&Brand=&CatalogName=&PriceStart=&PriceEnd=&Feature=&Cat=96&filter=&SearchText=dmt+guide&Submit.x=0&Submit.y=0&list=10&SKU=ABG

http://www.eknifeworks.com/webapp/eCommerce/product.jsp?filter=&PriceEnd=&order=Default&CatalogName=&range=51&list=10&Feature=&SearchText=dmt&Cat=96&Submit.y=0&Submit.x=0&Mode=Cat&Brand=&PriceStart=&SKU=ADELUXE

Goatboy
24-07-2009, 20:11
... as my face bears witness the good action of my straight razor...

Ah you were in the "TONGS" then, I was a "SHAM"!!! :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Sorry couldn't resist, was reading a book about the history of gangs in Dundee a month or so back, and though never as bad as the Glasgow gangs they did like their straight razors. I used to shave with one too and it was always important never to be distracted whilst shaving.

TTFN
Goatboy.

Tye Possum
25-07-2009, 06:23
Take a look at the DMT model in the Magna Guide Quad. Uses two dual grit Dia fold sharpeners with a guide that can also be used with a bench stone. I learned to freehand with this device. You can also just get the guide for benchstone use for about ten bucks or so. Well worth the money which ever you decide to purchase. And yes I really like their product, it just doesn't wear out. :deal: :present: :lmao: Cool, thanks for that, I think I'm gunna get one myself! Do they work well with scandi grinds? (if you know)

Native Justice
25-07-2009, 16:57
Cool, thanks for that, I think I'm gunna get one myself! Do they work well with scandi grinds? (if you know)

Don't see why not though I haven't tried. Its a very versatile unit. Best of luck with your purchase.