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Sign up for the bushcraft uk Arctic Expedition 2010
Booking is now open, the way it's going to work is you need to email info@bushcraftuk.com with Bushcraft UK Arctic Expedition in the subject. You will then receive an email detailing how to pay, terms and conditions and the general information contained in this thread, make sure you read it.
Common sense also dictates that anyone going on an Expedition should take out some insurance, it's just a few quid and protects you in case something happens with the family or yourself.
Ok, there's been a number of you that are interested in this so we'll get your names on the list now. You can copy and paste the list and add your name as it does through the thread.
Here's the details so far:
INTRODUCTION:
The Bushcraft UK, Arctic skills course is a 7 day (fully inclusive) Arctic bushcraft and survival course led by uk guides/instructors. The course is a "no frills" low cost opportunity for members of the Bushcraft UK community to experience top of the range instruction, 400km inside the Arctic Circle.
During the course students will be expected to participate in routine tasks around the camp such as firewood collection, cooking and general camp duties. Accommodation will be in heated tents and shelters (sleeping in shelters is optional).
COURSE DETAILS:
Course provider: Bushcraft Expeditions.
Minimum numbers: 16
Minimum age: 18 (17 if accompanied by an adult)
Date of Exped - 14th - 20th Feb 2010
RV time 15:30hr on the 14th in Bardufoss arrivals hall
Drop off for travel home 13:00hr on the 20th at BDU airport
Accommodation: Tents and shelters.
Cost: £420
7 day itinerary. Arriving day one/departing day seven.
Subjects covered:
1. Outfitting for the cold environment.
2. Dressing for the cold environment.
3. Daily routine and considerations for working in the cold environment.
4. Cold injuries their recognition, prevention and medical procedures in the cold environment.
5. Cutting tools in the cold environment, their selection safe use and maintenance.
6. Shelters. (Quincy, Arctic lean to, emergency shelters) snow holes and igloos - (conditions permitting) 7. Fire lighting and fire husbandry in the extreme cold.
8. Improvised Snow shoe construction and snow shoeing techniques.
9. Arctic Tracking and wild life observation.
10. Ice Fishing.
11. Ice crossing procedures.
12. Trapping in the Arctic.
13. Tent/camp routine in the extreme cold.
14. Signalling.
15. Water procurement, carriage and preparation for consumption in the Arctic.
16. Field cookery in the extreme cold.
Included in the price:
1. Full instruction in Arctic Bushcraft and Survival from UK/English speaking Guides.
2. All internal transfers from the designated meeting point.
3. Heated Tentage/accommodation. (Shared)
4. Camping fees (private land and National park)
5. Fully trained on site medical cover.
6. Full board. (3 meals a day plus hot drinks)
7. Bushcraft UK Arctic Course certificate.
8. Pre course UK briefing and kit/clothing demo.
Not included in the cost:
1. International flights/transport to designated meeting point.
2. Any food and drink outside the full board status (See above)
3. Any additional activities other than those stated.
4. Clothing and equipment hire.
Optional/additional activities and equipment hire available on site:
1. Extreme cold clothing hire.
2. Extreme cold footwear hire.
3. Extreme cold sleeping bag + liner hire.
4. Gortex Bivi bag hire.
5. Dog sledging.
6. Traditional Sauna facilities (minimum number apply/required).
7. Traditional outdoor hot tub facilities. (minimum number apply/required)
Here's a general kit list. The idea is that it won't cost a lot to get it together and may items you'll already have access to. There's going to be a clothing lecture given on the pre-expedition brief that will take place before the expedition, you'll be able to ask any questions there and bring along any kit that you're unsure of or want clarifying or assessed.
Clothing you will need to bring:
• Wind/waterproof outer jacket. (ski wear is sufficient for this)
• Wind/waterproof outer trousers or saloppettes. (ski wear is sufficient for this)
• Warm outdoor/work trousers (2 pairs)
• Warm outdoor shirts (2)
• Fleece jacket
• Large sweater
• Cold weather hat preferably with ear protection
• Cold weather mitts or gloves
• Cold weather boots or walking type boots (large enough to be able to wear two pairs of thick socks with and not be tight /restrictive)
• Thermal underwear (1 set)
• Thick socks, preferably wool (3 pairs minimum)
• Synthetic thin liner socks (2 pairs)
• 2nd lightweight wool hat or similar
• Thin pair of work gloves
• Scarf
• Towel and swimming costume (for sauna if that is taken as an optional extra)
• Slippers or trainers for indoors/tents
• Handkerchiefs (2)
• Long belt (Preferably leather)
Equipment you will need to bring:
• Large (70ltr+) rucksack capable of carrying all your equipment
• Sleeping bag (four seasons for use in temperatures down to -10)
• Insulated sleeping mat
• Bivouac (Bivvi) bag
• Head torch and spare batteries
• Mug, knife, fork and spoon
• Billy can (preferable) or mess tins (for cooking over open fires)
• Small pocket knife
• Small steel thermos type flask (optional)
• 10 metres of strong nylon cord
• Note book and pencil
• Wash bag
• Two candles (long life preferably)
• Ski goggles or similar eye protection
• Sun glasses
Personal medications/Items:
• Lip salve
• Sun block
• Passport
• European Health Insurance Card (EHIC)
Cold weather clothing hire costs:
Rental of extreme cold weather boots - £5.00 per day.
Rental of extreme cold weather sleeping bag+Liner - £5.00 per day
Rental of snow suit - £4.00 per day
(All above on a 1st come basis)
The Airport you need to fly into is Bardufoss airport. You can book all the way via www.norwegian.no or go to most airports in Scandinavia via all the big operators and then connect up to Bardufoss with Norwegian (which is a budget airline).
Travel:
For those confirmed on coming on the BCUK Arctic Expedition it may be worth organising yourselves into travel groups now, that way you will have the ability to group book etc and coordinate things between yourselves. A suggestion would be the following groups (You will have to decide amongst yourselves who is going to instigate/organise these groups)
Group 1: Those flying to Oslo with Ryan on the Saturday, stopping in Oslo overnight and then flying onto Bardufoss on the Sunday (Returning the same route but with no overnight in Oslo) This is the suggested and probably the best travel option.
Group 2: Those doing the above but not stopping in Oslo overnight it might be a good idea if this group organise a charter bus/taxi/minibus to get them from one airport to the other in Oslo as there is only 3 hours between flights and it will give you piece of mind having some one meet/drop you off - this should not be necessary on the return flight as you have 6 hours between flights this is probably the cheapest flight option.
Group 3: Those getting the Norwegian flight up to Tromso and then the bus down to Bardufoss.
Put your name in the list :D
Names to go:
Tony Bristow
Phill Grant
Chris the Cat
Atross
Gailainne
Littlebiglane
Stretch3144
Korvin Karbon
Jaysurfer
22-07-2009, 17:32
Names to go:
Tony Bristow
Phill Grant
Chris the Cat
Atross
Gailainne
Littlebiglane
Stretch3144
Korvin Karbon
Jaysurfer
Firebringer
22-07-2009, 18:35
Tony Bristow
Phill Grant
Chris the Cat
Atross
Gailainne
Littlebiglane
Stretch3144
Korvin Karbon
Jaysurfer
Firebringer
johnnytheboy
22-07-2009, 19:14
Tony Bristow
Phill Grant
Chris the Cat
Atross
Gailainne
Littlebiglane
Stretch3144
Korvin Karbon
Jaysurfer
Firebringer
Johnnytheboy
Can you give a firm date on this yet Tony.
For some of us it may be the deciding factor.
not quite yet Wayland, we're looking at travelling info at the moment to time it with the cheapest flights, it shouldn't be long though we're in contact directly with the airlines.
Chris the Cat
23-07-2009, 08:11
Great,thanks Tony.
Chris.
Matthew.Passmore
23-07-2009, 09:21
I'll take the plunge :D
Tony Bristow
Phill Grant
Chris the Cat
Atross
Gailainne
Littlebiglane
Stretch3144
Korvin Karbon
Jaysurfer
Firebringer
Johnnytheboy
Matthew.Passmore
Tony Bristow
Phill Grant
Chris the Cat
Atross
Gailainne
Littlebiglane
Stretch3144
Korvin Karbon
Jaysurfer
Firebringer
Johnnytheboy
Matthew.Passmore
Johan Hoogendijk (NL)
msmeehui
23-07-2009, 09:41
Tony Bristow
Phill Grant
Chris the Cat
Atross
Gailainne
Littlebiglane
Stretch3144
Korvin Karbon
Jaysurfer
Firebringer
Johnnytheboy
Matthew.Passmore
Johan Hoogendijk (NL)
Marc Smeehuijzen
Tony Bristow
Phill Grant
Chris the Cat
Atross
Gailainne
Littlebiglane
Stretch3144
Korvin Karbon
Jaysurfer
Firebringer
Johnnytheboy
Matthew.Passmore
Johan Hoogendijk (NL)
Marc Smeehuijzen (NL)
ddokkum (NL)
littlefolker
23-07-2009, 10:11
Tony Bristow
Phill Grant
Chris the Cat
Atross
Gailainne
Littlebiglane
Stretch3144
Korvin Karbon
Jaysurfer
Firebringer
Johnnytheboy
Matthew.Passmore
Johan Hoogendijk (NL)
Marc Smeehuijzen (NL)
ddokkum (NL)
littlefolker
Matthew.Passmore
23-07-2009, 10:23
would be good to go a few days earlier Via Oslo and have a day or 2 exploring Oslo before flying out.
Tony Bristow
Phill Grant
Chris the Cat
Atross
Gailainne
Littlebiglane
Stretch3144
Korvin Karbon
Jaysurfer
Firebringer
Johnnytheboy
Matthew.Passmore
Johan Hoogendijk (NL)
Marc Smeehuijzen (NL)
ddokkum (NL)
littlefolker
dardar (IRL)
Knobby Norway
23-07-2009, 11:30
Tony Bristow
Phill Grant
Chris the Cat
Atross
Gailainne
Littlebiglane
Stretch3144
Korvin Karbon
Jaysurfer
Firebringer
Johnnytheboy
Matthew.Passmore
Johan Hoogendijk (NL)
Marc Smeehuijzen (NL)
ddokkum (NL)
littlefolker
dardar (IRL)
knobby norway(uk)
littlebiglane
23-07-2009, 12:58
not quite yet Wayland, we're looking at travelling info at the moment to time it with the cheapest flights, it shouldn't be long though we're in contact directly with the airlines.
That would be good. Not getting much change out of £600 on norwegian.dk at the moment.....
Firebringer
23-07-2009, 13:07
Yeah the flights did seem a bit on the high side when I had a look.
Matthew.Passmore
23-07-2009, 13:30
just had a look on http://www.norwegian.com/en/ doesn't go to Feb but the prices don't seem too high.
Guys,
Here are some of the travel variations available that you may want to look into.
1. Flying with www.norwegian.no (Direct) to Tromso from London Gatwick (Click on Fare calendar on bottom left of booking page to see all flights/costs or scroll down the 'deals' and click Tromso on home page)
- and then get a bus (see: www.nor-way.no/?lang=en_GB ) to Bardufoss (Bus journey - 2hrs approx) - Flights approx £160 / Bus ??
(Both above sites will do group bookings)
2. Flying with www.norwegian.no to Bardufoss (Once they announce thir schedule beyond Oct) This is via Oslo (Not direct) but may only be on specific days, at the moment they do not fly that route on a Saturday. (Use Fare calendar to see all flights/costs)
3. Flying to Oslo (and back) with Ryan Air (Multiple Daily
flights) and then flying with www.Norwegian.no to Bardufoss (and Back) This is probably the cheapest option but does mean sitting around in various airports for a few hours between flights (Unless of course you plan on exploring Oslo as well!)
4. Fly to Kiruna in Sweden and then get the train to Narvik and then the Bus to Bardufoss - Very scenic if you have the time and inexpensive.
Matthew.Passmore
23-07-2009, 13:57
3. Flying to Oslo (and back) with Ryan Air (Multiple Daily
flights) and then flying with www.Norwegian.no to Bardufoss (and Back) This is probably the cheapest option but does mean sitting around in various airports for a few hours between flights (Unless of course you plan on exploring Oslo as well!)
Just tried it this was using some Hypothetical dates 7 days apart and it worked out around £140 return; RyanAir Birmingham to Oslo (£38 return), then Norwegian Oslo to Bardufoss (£100 return)
They're the costs we were looking at with it being Feb, the aim has been to get whole trip less than £600 for the Expedition and the flights. We might just miss that but it will be close :D
Leonidas
23-07-2009, 15:22
Hi Folks....Here is some info from a colleague in Oslo....
Norwegian fly from London to Bardufoss, but only till October. But you could get a ticket to Oslo first and then from Oslo to Bardufoss.
Explains why the schedule dries up after October!
On another note, if we are able to get a group flight booking this will give much leverage when it comes to baggage allowances!
Even if the group booking is for the second leg from Oslo it might help....?
On a third note, my contact in Oslo says that Norweigian national service is/was conducted in the area around Bardufoss, so will be perfect for a week of survival....
barryasmith
23-07-2009, 21:55
Tony Bristow
Phill Grant
Chris the Cat
Atross
Gailainne
Littlebiglane
Stretch3144
Korvin Karbon
Jaysurfer
Firebringer
Johnnytheboy
Matthew.Passmore
Johan Hoogendijk (NL)
Marc Smeehuijzen (NL)
ddokkum (NL)
littlefolker
dardar (IRL)
knobby norway(uk)
Barry Smith
Chris Hall
Names to go:
Tony Bristow
Phill Grant
Chris the Cat
Atross
Gailainne
Littlebiglane
Stretch3144
Korvin Karbon
Jaysurfer
Firebringer
Johnnytheboy
Matthew.Passmore
Johan Hoogendijk (NL)
Marc Smeehuijzen (NL)
ddokkum (NL)
littlefolker
dardar (IRL)
knobby norway(uk)
Barry Smith
Chris Hall
johnnytheboy (john forret)
Nightjar
23-07-2009, 22:17
Names to go:
Tony Bristow
Phill Grant
Chris the Cat
Atross
Gailainne
Littlebiglane
Stretch3144
Korvin Karbon
Jaysurfer
Firebringer
Johnnytheboy
Matthew.Passmore
Johan Hoogendijk (NL)
Marc Smeehuijzen (NL)
ddokkum (NL)
littlefolker
dardar (IRL)
knobby norway(uk)
Barry Smith
Chris Hall
johnnytheboy (john forret)
Nightjar (Philip Henderson)
__________________
Nightjar
23-07-2009, 22:29
Names to go
Tony Bristow
Phill Grant
Chris the Cat
Atross
Gailainne
Littlebiglane
Stretch3144
Korvin Karbon
Jaysurfer
Firebringer
Johnnytheboy
Matthew.Passmore
Johan Hoogendijk (NL)
Marc Smeehuijzen (NL)
ddokkum (NL)
littlefolker
dardar (IRL)
knobby norway(uk)
Barry Smith
Chris Hall
johnnytheboy (john forret)
__________________
Leonidas
23-07-2009, 22:43
Names to go
Tony Bristow
Phill Grant
Chris the Cat
Atross
Gailainne
Littlebiglane
Stretch3144
Korvin Karbon
Jaysurfer
Firebringer
Johnnytheboy
Matthew.Passmore
Johan Hoogendijk (NL)
Marc Smeehuijzen (NL)
ddokkum (NL)
littlefolker
dardar (IRL)
knobby norway(uk)
Barry Smith
Chris Hall
johnnytheboy (john forret)
Leonidas
Path Finder
24-07-2009, 00:59
Wow
Names to go
Tony Bristow
Phill Grant
Chris the Cat
Atross
Gailainne
Littlebiglane
Stretch3144
Korvin Karbon
Jaysurfer
Firebringer
Johnnytheboy
Matthew.Passmore
Johan Hoogendijk (NL)
Marc Smeehuijzen (NL)
ddokkum (NL)
littlefolker
dardar (IRL)
knobby norway(uk)
Barry Smith
Chris Hall
johnnytheboy (john forret)
Leonidas
Geoffrey McMullan
Bardufoss, and the place you will probably be staying is excellent, and stunning.
One big playground. Loads to see and do and the instructors will look after you.
Have a good one all.
Names to go
Tony Bristow
Phill Grant
Chris the Cat
Atross
Gailainne
Littlebiglane
Stretch3144
Korvin Karbon
Jaysurfer
Firebringer
Johnnytheboy
Matthew.Passmore
Johan Hoogendijk (NL)
Marc Smeehuijzen (NL)
ddokkum (NL)
littlefolker
dardar (IRL)
knobby norway(uk)
Barry Smith
Chris Hall
johnnytheboy (john forret)
Leonidas
Geoffrey McMullan
Adam Logan (UK)
gingerscot
24-07-2009, 14:06
Names to go:
Tony Bristow
Phill Grant
Chris the Cat
Atross
Gailainne
Littlebiglane
Stretch3144
Korvin Karbon
Jaysurfer
Firebringer
Johnnytheboy
Matthew.Passmore
Johan Hoogendijk (NL)
Marc Smeehuijzen (NL)
ddokkum (NL)
littlefolker
dardar (IRL)
knobby norway(uk)
Barry Smith
Chris Hall
johnnytheboy (john forret)
Leonidas
Geoffrey McMullan
Adam Logan (UK)
David Taylor (UK)
Nightjar
24-07-2009, 14:23
Names to go
Tony Bristow
Phill Grant
Chris the Cat
Atross
Gailainne
Littlebiglane
Stretch3144
Korvin Karbon
Jaysurfer
Firebringer
Johnnytheboy
Matthew.Passmore
Johan Hoogendijk (NL)
Marc Smeehuijzen (NL)
ddokkum (NL)
littlefolker
dardar (IRL)
knobby norway(uk)
Barry Smith
Chris Hall
johnnytheboy (john forret)
Leonidas
Geoffrey McMullan
Adam Logan (UK)
Philip Henderson (Nightjar) (Northern Ireland
5.10leader
24-07-2009, 15:13
Names to go
Tony Bristow
Phill Grant
Chris the Cat
Atross
Gailainne
Littlebiglane
Stretch3144
Korvin Karbon
Jaysurfer
Firebringer
Johnnytheboy
Matthew.Passmore
Johan Hoogendijk (NL)
Marc Smeehuijzen (NL)
ddokkum (NL)
littlefolker
dardar (IRL)
knobby norway(uk)
Barry Smith
Chris Hall
johnnytheboy (john forret)
Leonidas
Geoffrey McMullan
Adam Logan (UK)
Philip Henderson (Nightjar) (Northern Ireland
5.10leader
Names to go
Tony Bristow
Phill Grant
Chris the Cat
Atross
Gailainne
Littlebiglane
Stretch3144
Korvin Karbon
Jaysurfer
Firebringer
Johnnytheboy
Matthew.Passmore
Johan Hoogendijk (NL)
Marc Smeehuijzen (NL)
ddokkum (NL)
littlefolker
dardar (IRL)
knobby norway(uk)
Barry Smith
Chris Hall
johnnytheboy (john forret)
Leonidas
Geoffrey McMullan
Adam Logan (UK)
Philip Henderson (Nightjar) (Northern Ireland
5.10leader
Greg
Names to go:
Tony Bristow
Phill Grant
Chris the Cat
Atross
Gailainne
Littlebiglane
Stretch3144
Korvin Karbon
Jaysurfer
Firebringer
Johnnytheboy
Matthew.Passmore
Johan Hoogendijk (NL)
Marc Smeehuijzen (NL)
ddokkum (NL)
littlefolker
dardar (IRL)
knobby norway(uk)
Barry Smith
Chris Hall
johnnytheboy (john forret)
Leonidas
Geoffrey McMullan
Adam Logan (UK)
dave davies (Wales)
I've updated the first post with the complete date information, the expedition will be on these days.
Expedition dates - 14th - 20th Feb 2010
Names to go:
Tony Bristow
Phill Grant
Chris the Cat
Atross
Gailainne
Littlebiglane
Stretch3144
Korvin Karbon
Jaysurfer
Firebringer
Johnnytheboy
Matthew.Passmore
Johan Hoogendijk (NL)
Marc Smeehuijzen (NL)
ddokkum (NL)
littlefolker
dardar (IRL)
knobby norway(uk)
Barry Smith
Chris Hall
johnnytheboy (john forret)
Leonidas
Geoffrey McMullan
Adam Logan (UK)
dave davies (Wales)
Can I add my name pending checking dates etc? Need to arrange child cover
(Just a tidy up of the list as some names were missing after various edits. Everyone should be listed now. :D )
Tony Bristow
Phill Grant
Chris the Cat
Atross
Gailainne
Littlebiglane
Stretch3144
Korvin Karbon
Jaysurfer
Firebringer
Matthew.Passmore
Johan Hoogendijk (NL)
Marc Smeehuijzen (NL)
ddokkum (NL)
littlefolker
dardar (IRL)
knobby norway(uk)
Barry Smith
Chris Hall
johnnytheboy (john forret)
Nightjar (Philip Henderson) (Northern Ireland)
Leonidas
Geoffrey McMullan
Adam Logan (UK)
David Taylor (UK)
dave davies (Wales)
5.10leader
Greg
Sorry for putting my name twice!
(Just a tidy up of the list as some names were missing after various edits. Everyone should be listed now. :D )
Tony Bristow
Phill Grant
Chris the Cat
Atross
Gailainne
Littlebiglane
Stretch3144
Korvin Karbon
Jaysurfer
Firebringer
Matthew.Passmore
Johan Hoogendijk (NL)
Marc Smeehuijzen (NL)
ddokkum (NL)
littlefolker
dardar (IRL)
knobby norway(uk)
Barry Smith
Chris Hall
johnnytheboy (john forret)
Nightjar (Philip Henderson) (Northern Ireland)
Leonidas
Geoffrey McMullan
Adam Logan (UK)
David Taylor (UK)
dave davies (Wales)
5.10leader
Greg
Stick me down too, please.
Jif (John Graham)
Names to go:
Tony Bristow
Phill Grant
Chris the Cat
Atross
Gailainne
Littlebiglane
Stretch3144
Korvin Karbon
Jaysurfer
Firebringer
Matthew.Passmore
Johan Hoogendijk (NL)
Marc Smeehuijzen (NL)
ddokkum (NL)
littlefolker
dardar (IRL)
knobby norway(uk)
Barry Smith
Chris Hall
johnnytheboy (john forret)
Nightjar (Philip Henderson) (Northern Ireland)
Leonidas
Geoffrey McMullan
Adam Logan (UK)
David Taylor (UK)
dave davies (Wales)
5.10leader
Greg
Jif (John Graham)
Chris the Cat
27-07-2009, 09:50
Any insurance ideas Tony?
cheers.
Chris.
as in personal insurance? No, other than the normal stuff when you go travelling, it's also a good idea to have short term holiday protection insurance in case some circumstance transpires that prevents you (or anyone) from going at short notice.
I'm going to put up info on deposits, time periods for payment etc very soon.
The Expeditions themselves are completely covered in all respects when it comes to our insurance cover.
barryasmith
27-07-2009, 11:45
Names to go:
Tony Bristow
Phill Grant
Chris the Cat
Atross
Gailainne
Littlebiglane
Stretch3144
Korvin Karbon
Jaysurfer
Firebringer
Matthew.Passmore
Johan Hoogendijk (NL)
Marc Smeehuijzen (NL)
ddokkum (NL)
littlefolker
dardar (IRL)
knobby norway(uk)
Barry Smith (barryasmith)
Chris Hall (care of barryasmith)
johnnytheboy (john forret)
Nightjar (Philip Henderson) (Northern Ireland)
Leonidas
Geoffrey McMullan
Adam Logan (UK)
David Taylor (UK)
dave davies (Wales)
5.10leader
Greg
Jif (John Graham)
Gary Nimmo (care of barryasmith)
Chris the Cat
27-07-2009, 12:09
Thanks Tony,I ment the activities,so thats good to know!
Thanks.
Chris.
please include my name on the list
Russell Fielding
robevs73
27-07-2009, 15:47
me too. Robevs73. Robert Evans (Llanelli carmarthenshire)
Names to go:
Tony Bristow
Phill Grant
Chris the Cat
Atross
Gailainne
Littlebiglane
Stretch3144
Korvin Karbon
Jaysurfer
Firebringer
Matthew.Passmore
Johan Hoogendijk (NL)
Marc Smeehuijzen (NL)
ddokkum (NL)
littlefolker
dardar (IRL)
knobby norway(uk)
Barry Smith (barryasmith)
Chris Hall (care of barryasmith)
johnnytheboy (john forret)
Nightjar (Philip Henderson) (Northern Ireland)
Leonidas
Geoffrey McMullan
Adam Logan (UK)
David Taylor (UK)
dave davies (Wales)
5.10leader
Greg
Jif (John Graham)
Gary Nimmo (care of barryasmith)
Robevs73 - Robert Evans (Llanelli carmarthenshire)
felden - Russell Fielding
Here's some possible travel info that we've looked into:
If you fly:
STN (stansted) > RYG (Oslo -Rygge) with Ryan air
And then get express bus/train across to Oslo Gardermoen (I am sure a bunch of grown men travelling together can manage this!) and then get:
OSL (Oslo-Gardermoen) > BDU (bardufoss) with Norwegian
You should be able to do it for £163.83
(+ the price of the transfer across town, which run about every 20mins in and out of the city centre)
This is just info that we've found out, it's not a definite and it's not anything to do with us :D
born2roam
28-07-2009, 18:57
32 people going? For peace and tranquility in a winter wonderland? Kinda defeats the purpose here imo....
Must be my time of the month not seeing this, although I love to visit places mentioned in the expedition lists (again....)
Grtz Johan
littlebiglane
28-07-2009, 19:04
Tone,
Any info on direct flights yet?
Umm, not looked yet, just been looking at cheapest way to get there and back. You turned anything up?
Tony - Given the scale of response we've seen here, are we probably going to look to organise two separate trips?
I went on one of the unofficial BCUK trips to Norway and thoroughly loved it - I've also met up with BCUK members in Borneo which was good as well. However, I would echo the comment about 32 people in the "wilderness" kind of defeats the point.
I would also perhaps mention that the equipment needed for this kind of trip is likely to add a fair cost to the expenses. "Arctic" sleeping bags/boots alone can cost silly money if you try and get them new...
I'll wait for the response to committing myself this time; but if it's half as good as last time, count me in :-)
Ag
Chris the Cat
28-07-2009, 19:27
Sounds complicated man!
I hear Ryan Air are mothballing 40% of their planes this winter!?
Is there going to be a north and south RV,or are we going to try for one RV
this side or a main RV in Norway or are we not sure yet?
Thanks again,must be hellish trying to sort this,realy gratefull this end!
Cheers.
Chris.
Leonidas
28-07-2009, 20:21
I would also perhaps mention that the equipment needed for this kind of trip is likely to add a fair cost to the expenses. "Arctic" sleeping bags/boots alone can cost silly money if you try and get them new...
Ag
Hi Ag I've been looking at a variety of Arctic kit deals.
Two deals I am testing the water with so to speak are N3B Parka's for 44 Euro and Fox Ice boots (Rated to -40) for 33 Euro....
This is just the first round but I'm putting feelers out there :)
Cheers
littlebiglane
28-07-2009, 20:35
Gatwick to Oslo and to BDU for £250-ish with Norwegian - same airport and same airline cuts down on transfer/delay complications. Should have larger baggage allowance I would hope too.
Birmingham to Oslo and to BDU
Chris the Cat
28-07-2009, 21:43
Liking the sound of that much more mate.
Good work.
Thanks.
Chris.
Ratio of Instructors to Students is anticipated to be what??
Gatwick to Oslo and to BDU for £250-ish with Norwegian - same airport and same airline cuts down on transfer/delay complications. Should have larger baggage allowance I would hope too.
Birmingham to Oslo and to BDU
Thats the way I did it but from Heathrow. Very easy smooth trip, great if you dont fly much and on your own. My mate did it the Ryan air / bus way and had a mare, with a few added cancellations and unexpected delays. He got there in the end though and cheaper.
johnnytheboy
28-07-2009, 22:58
Just wait till it comes time to collecting deposits, that will half
32 people going? For peace and tranquility in a winter wonderland? Kinda defeats the purpose here imo....
Must be my time of the month not seeing this, although I love to visit places mentioned in the expedition lists (again....)
Grtz Johan
Firebringer
28-07-2009, 23:12
Probably tantamount to attempting to herd (wild) cats, but there's a group discount scheme with Norweigen
http://www.norwegian.com/customer-services/travel-information/group-reservations/
Looks like their maximum limit for bagage is detailed on that page too.
littlebiglane
29-07-2009, 06:36
Probably tantamount to attempting to herd (wild) cats, but there's a group discount scheme with Norweigen
http://www.norwegian.com/customer-services/travel-information/group-reservations/
Looks like their maximum limit for bagage is detailed on that page too.
Sounds like a plan I feel. Group booking could well be the way forward.....Tone?
Norwegian Group department phone: 0047 815 11 560 on weekdays from 9am to 3pm.
We drove up to that area 3 weeks ago, absolutely stunning scenery - those going will have plenty of food for the eye, as well as a good bushcrafting experience. :)
The weather is a trifle warmer along that coastal strip of Norway, than it is in northern Finland. I doubt temps will drop much below -20°C, which is a good temperature to be outside in :) The lower temps across in Finland at that time of year can be painful if you're outside for more than a couple of hours.
Would advise investing in winter boots though. Not only do they have nice cosy linings, they also have an insulated sole (something you don't get with walking boots). Also, walking boot soles are rubbish if you're on ice - you need softer rubber underfoot (one big mistake many foreigners make here in the cold north, is to arrive with "tough soles for the tough climate, you can see them slipping on their bums every winter :) ). My recommedation would be something like this for around 90 euro (price in Finland from local hardware store, am sure they must be available mail order):
http://www.sievi.com/index.php?sivu=kengat_en&kengat_id=178&koko=400&&ammattijalkine=1&varrellinen=1&otsikko=ProfessionalShoes_Boot s&PHPSESSID=e389ad0ed71ade289707 c9c8d7d99243
The powers that be at work have dictated that I take a week off in Feb, they got the right week for a change :)
So can you add my name to the list please.
With getting there it's up to you guys how you would do it, for some the added hassle but going cheap is the decider and others it's the lack of hassle and time that decides things.
I'm not going to get involved in the booking of things like flights, that's beyond what i'm in for although we 'll keep a look out for info etc and help where we can but that will only be heads up info. I do think the group booking is the way to go if it makes financial sense and it's always good to travel with mates :D
The RV point will be Bardufoss arrivals hall 15:30hr on the 14th (i'll add that to the details above)
Jonnytheboy speaks wisdom :D We'll worry about the group size when we need to, we can run another one if we need to, that's already been sorted. I'm not sure of group/instructor ratios, i'll find out but i'm completely confident that it's covered as we've discussed brining in more instructors as appropriate, BE have a fantastic reputation. Remember though that even if it's a larger group size the workshops etc will not be larger, the group will be divided into smaller groups with instructors so that quality is maintained, if there's a lecture that would be in a larger group but hands on would not, that sort of thing.
All this is premature though until we've got real commitment. I'm not going to put up any info on deposits etc until after the Moot which i'm preparing for now and feeling very hassled time wise :D I'll see some of you there no doubt.
Thanks for that info susi, those temperatures aren't so bad, had a lot colder when i lived in Canada, this is going to be a great trip :D
Names to go:
Tony Bristow
Phill Grant
Chris the Cat
Atross
Gailainne
Littlebiglane
Stretch3144
Korvin Karbon
Jaysurfer
Firebringer
Matthew.Passmore
Johan Hoogendijk (NL)
Marc Smeehuijzen (NL)
ddokkum (NL)
littlefolker
dardar (IRL)
knobby norway(uk)
Barry Smith (barryasmith)
Chris Hall (care of barryasmith)
johnnytheboy (john forret)
Nightjar (Philip Henderson) (Northern Ireland)
Leonidas
Geoffrey McMullan
Adam Logan (UK)
David Taylor (UK)
dave davies (Wales)
5.10leader
Greg
Jif (John Graham)
Gary Nimmo (care of barryasmith)
Robevs73 - Robert Evans (Llanelli carmarthenshire)
felden - Russell Fielding
Glen
Add me in to the list as well then - save final updates etc....
Like I said, last time was great, and I expect this time to be just as good!!
Tony Bristow
Phill Grant
Chris the Cat
Atross
Gailainne
Littlebiglane
Stretch3144
Korvin Karbon
Jaysurfer
Firebringer
Matthew.Passmore
Johan Hoogendijk (NL)
Marc Smeehuijzen (NL)
ddokkum (NL)
littlefolker
dardar (IRL)
knobby norway(uk)
Barry Smith (barryasmith)
Chris Hall (care of barryasmith)
johnnytheboy (john forret)
Nightjar (Philip Henderson) (Northern Ireland)
Leonidas
Geoffrey McMullan
Adam Logan (UK)
David Taylor (UK)
dave davies (Wales)
5.10leader
Greg
Jif (John Graham)
Gary Nimmo (care of barryasmith)
Robevs73 - Robert Evans (Llanelli carmarthenshire)
felden - Russell Fielding
Glen
Agile
Nightjar
01-08-2009, 14:19
I noticed that the independent newspaper has Ron Thompson thermal boots for sale at about £20, apparently they have been tested in Sweden to -40 C.
I am a bit reluctant as I bought a well designed buit badly made Ron Thompson jacket which had to go be returned,:bluThinki any thoughts??
Philip
Hi Philip
My thoughts:
- normal walking boots are fine in temps down to -15 celsius (with a wooly sock)
- at least for me, it's more important to have a soft rubber sole, if the ground you're on will be icey
- if iwas going to be in -40, i wouldn't trust boots at 20 pounds, sale or otherwise.
- if there's a budget of 20 pounds, i would be looking for something slightly more insulated than a walking boot, but with a soft rubber sole.
Nightjar
01-08-2009, 18:03
http://www.sierratradingpost.com
this canadian company has quite a selection of winter/snow boots most of them are on special offer.
Philip
These sort of boots were recommended to me by instructors and they are perfect for the job.
Very grippy, very very warm, a removable liner easy to dry, and waterproof and breathable. Flexible too with the materials and lacing. No need to pay much more than £40 new, unless the apperance is an issue.
There is loads of fishing boots like this to choose from, and they are identical to the very expensive ones labeled as suitable for the arctic.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-Size-9-Wychwood-Tackle-Extremis-Carp-Fishing-Boots_W0QQitemZ320400138593QQc mdZViewItemQQptZUK_Sporting_Go ods_Athletic_Shoes_ET?hash=ite m4a99562161&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
These sort of boots were recommended to me by instructors and they are perfect for the job.
Very grippy, .....snip....
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-Size-9-Wychwood-Tackle-Extremis-Carp-Fishing-Boots_W0QQitemZ320400138593QQc mdZViewItemQQptZUK_Sporting_Go ods_Athletic_Shoes_ET?hash=ite m4a99562161&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
Quote from your ebay link:
- Tough rubberised base and moulded tread.
This is exactly what you don't want if you're on ice you're on ice (see what I wrote further up the page). But I'll pull out of the thread as far as giving footwear advice, and wait until the expeditioners return, and ask how many came back with bruised bum or (more painful and potentiallyserious), a bruised coccyx :)
Also, these are not such a bad idea either:
http://kotisivukone.fi/files/easy.ota.fi/Kuvat13/kenkanastat.jpg
They are studs that fit over your normal boots. Very useful if you will use the same boots in both snow and on ice (you can quicker attached them when the going gets slippery :) )
Nightjar
03-08-2009, 17:41
I have ordered a pair of winter boots from Sierra Trading Post, they have a large selection
http://www.sierratradingpost.com/p/,1728N_Kamik-Northfield-Winter-Pac-Boots-For-Men.html
Philip
Leonidas
03-08-2009, 18:33
I have ordered a pair of winter boots from Sierra Trading Post, they have a large selection
http://www.sierratradingpost.com/p/,1728N_Kamik-Northfield-Winter-Pac-Boots-For-Men.html
Philip
Hope you ordered one size larger.....US sizes a one size less than UK.
johnnytheboy
03-08-2009, 18:42
I would avoid ron tompson everything, there stuff is junk, i have seen hundreds of pairs of waders leak around ging gang goolly region in the past decade whilst my cheapo snowbee ones have been fine.
Nevertheless, Holidays have been approved by my General Manager, so i'm ready, when do we pay deposits etc, sooner the better for me, before we are all skint before and after xmas.
Nightjar
03-08-2009, 20:03
Hope you ordered one size larger.....US sizes a one size less than UK.
Yes thats been sorted.....:lmao:
Quote from your ebay link:
- Tough rubberised base and moulded tread.
This is exactly what you don't want if you're on ice you're on ice (see what I wrote further up the page). But I'll pull out of the thread as far as giving footwear advice, and wait until the expeditioners return, and ask how many came back with bruised bum or (more painful and potentiallyserious), a bruised coccyx :)
Fair enough, but when I was on the site there wasnt much ice, just tons of snow, and I dont remember falling over much. Guess I was lucky with the type of snow and weather.
The boots I had were like the ones in the link and the sole was tough but not as hard wearing as my walking boots. The nobbly bits on the bottom were slightly flexible.
One thing I would like to share with everyone, is that ensure your gaiters fit around the mountain boots, and the trousers you are wearing. I took the only pair of gaiters I have to the arctic, and ended up with no snow in my boots, but a very tight fit (hardly ideal to keep the circulation going).
Ag
Bushwhacker
05-08-2009, 15:16
Apres ski boots are good enough for up there, I bought some for £25 in Oswald Baileys and they were fine. Salopette legs just go over the top.
Firebringer
06-08-2009, 19:39
Due to my my accursed job, I'm not going to be able to go as I'd hoped. Hope the folks who do really enjoy themselves.
I've done a fair bit of web searching looking over kit etc and there's a couple of sites that folks might like to take a look at.
This place has great looking kit, even for bigger 'boned' persons like myself. Might be complete overkill but looks like seriously nice gear.
http://www.empirecanvasworks.com/sizing.htm
I'm still trying to work out if I can justify to myself buying kit that good for Argyll or Aberdeenshire.
Thermals: They do sets again including for bigger 'boned'.
http://www.xcelcius.com/uk/acatalog/ultratherm-package.php
has anyone looked at ferries? When I was in the army, some of our advance party took a ferry from Newcastle to Bergen, I'm not sure if you can get the train from Bergen to Bardufoss, but it's worth looking in to. How do the Bushcraft Expedition guys get themselves over there?
As for kit you don't need anything fancy, although Dachstein mitts are a godsend!
Knobby Norway
06-08-2009, 23:05
Hi
There is no Longer a ferry service that runs from Newcastle to Bergen anymore it was stopped last year along with the ferry service that ran from Harwich to Christian sands the only way buy Ferry is to go from Harwich to Denmark then Denmark to Bergen. I had recently looked into this as i was moving over to West Norway and I wanted to take dog with me and thought the ferry would be easier. but no it wasnt.
the nearest train service I believe is Tromso so it a bit of a trek from there to get to Bardufoss.
I have been a couple of times to Bardufoss the best way i found was either Heathrow/Gatwick to Oslo then Oslo to Bardufoss, personally I found this to be the best way and easiest and less stressful. there are other flights from Manchester or West Midlands that go to Oslo.
Ryan Air did do a flight for silly money to Oslo Rygg but I found the transfer time to Oslo Guardemeon where the Bardufoss flight goes from was to long and worked out expensive.
I have been on a few of Bushcraft Expeditions courses including there arctic course I've found them to be a great bunch of people and very knowlegable.I really enjoyed thier courses
Well that put's the ferry idea to bed then! Thanks for the info.
Travel:
For those confirmed on coming on the BCUK Arctic Expedition it may be worth organising yourselves into travel groups now, that way you will have the ability to group book etc and coordinate things between yourselves. A suggestion would be the following groups (You will have to decide amongst yourselves who is going to instigate/organise these groups)
Group 1: Those flying to Oslo with Ryan on the Saturday, stopping in Oslo overnight and then flying onto Bardufoss on the Sunday (Returning the same route but with no overnight in Oslo) This is the suggested and probably the best travel option.
Group 2: Those doing the above but not stopping in Oslo overnight it might be a good idea if this group organise a charter bus/taxi/minibus to get them from one airport to the other in Oslo as there is only 3 hours between flights and it will give you piece of mind having some one meet/drop you off - this should not be necessary on the return flight as you have 6 hours between flights this is probably the cheapest flight option.
Group 3: Those getting the Norwegian flight up to Tromso and then the bus down to Bardufoss.
I'll add this info to the first post ;)
Nightjar
11-08-2009, 18:59
What about final numbers for the course? will there be two courses????
Also anyone travelling from Ireland???
littlebiglane
11-08-2009, 19:18
My preference is to fly Norwegian all the way. Can anyone see if there is availability - I cannot see the option on their website for some reason now :(
I have to remove myself of the list.
Tony Bristow
Phill Grant
Chris the Cat
Atross
Gailainne
Littlebiglane
Stretch3144
Korvin Karbon
Jaysurfer
Firebringer
Matthew.Passmore
Johan Hoogendijk (NL)
Marc Smeehuijzen (NL)
littlefolker
dardar (IRL)
knobby norway(uk)
Barry Smith (barryasmith)
Chris Hall (care of barryasmith)
johnnytheboy (john forret)
Nightjar (Philip Henderson) (Northern Ireland)
Leonidas
Geoffrey McMullan
Adam Logan (UK)
David Taylor (UK)
dave davies (Wales)
5.10leader
Greg
Jif (John Graham)
Gary Nimmo (care of barryasmith)
Robevs73 - Robert Evans (Llanelli carmarthenshire)
felden - Russell Fielding
Glen
Agile
Gailainne
11-08-2009, 20:26
Hmmm
I've looked at all the combinations and;
It looks like I have to fly to Torp from Prestwick on the 12th to catch the Norwegian flight on the 14th, no ryanair flights on the 13th, ditto on the way back, no flights on the 20th, fly home on the 21st.
Sooooo 3 nights in Oslo, what will I do :bluThinki :D :cool:
Stephen
johnnytheboy
11-08-2009, 20:51
Anyone else traveling from Scotland want to arrange a group flight etc
Stephen are you flying from prestwick near Ayr?
Leonidas
11-08-2009, 20:53
My preference is to fly Norwegian all the way. Can anyone see if there is availability - I cannot see the option on their website for some reason now :(
Direct flights to Bardufoss via Norwegian cease 24th October....;)
Leonidas
11-08-2009, 21:00
FYI - Return flights from Oslo to Bardufoss via Norwegian... 133 Euro (Single booking NOT group booking)
I'll probably book the following, if anyone travelling from Hampshire (South or South West) is interested in this particular itinerary let me know as I'll be leaving my car at the airport.....
Plenty of room (Big ass Range Rover)...
From London Heathrow (LHR) via Oslo (OSL) to Bardufoss (BDU)
Best synchronizing of flights I've found to date....
Outbound 14th Feb 2010
Arrive LHR 0600
Depart LHR 0720 - Arr OSL 1030 (British Airways Flight)
Depart OSL 1315 - Arr BDU 1505 (Norwegian)
RV Bardufoss arrivals 1530 14th Feb
HAVE LOADS OF FUN
Dropped of at BDU at 1300 20th Feb
Return 20th Feb 2010
Depart BDU 1415 - Arr OSL 1605
Depart OSL 1710 - Arr LHR 1840
If anyone is arranging or wants someone to arrange a group flight via Norwegian Airlines on the above date and times let me know as I'll add my name or arrange the flight group.
If not, I'll see you there :)
Cheers.
Gailainne
12-08-2009, 08:32
........
Depart OSL 1315 - Arr BDU 1505 (Norwegian)
RV Bardufoss arrivals 1530 14th Feb
HAVE LOADS OF FUN
Dropped of at BDU at 1300 20th Feb
Return 20th Feb 2010
Depart BDU 1415 - Arr OSL 1605
.......
I think the internal flight from Oslo to Bardufoss is pretty much common to everyone, a group purchase definitely seems the way to go. Now we wait to see how many people pay their deposits, looks like it needs ten or more to qualify for the group discount.
The flight from London gives me another option or two, nice one.
Cheers
Stephen
I'll be flying from Heathrow, as and when.
Do we have a final cost for the course and a deposit amount?
Course costs are in the original post, £420, the deposit will be £170 and i'll be putting more details up about that.
Chris the Cat
14-08-2009, 14:27
Thanks Tony,and others!
Can,t wait for this!
C da C.
Nightjar
14-08-2009, 18:59
am just heading out to get all muddy for a week. I am from Belfast but I feel the Heathrow route will be easiest. looking forward to the trip
Philip
Cheers Tony, I'll get the deposit to you asap!
I've just looked on
http://www.norwegian.com/flight/select-flight/?D_City=OSLALL&A_City=BDU&D_Day=14&D_Month=201002&D_SelectedDay=14&R_Day=20&R_Month=201002&R_SelectedDay=20&CurrencyCode=GBP&processid=50333
It seems there is only one flight to Oslo from Bardufoss on the 20th and it leaves at 1415hrs!
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that before we are dropped at the airport?
johnnytheboy
14-08-2009, 22:00
How do we pay the deposit Tony?
Read his last post fella!
The cheapest flights I've found so far:
http://www.norwegian.com/en/
1st Choice:
London Gatwick to Oslo-Gardermoen
Leave - 0840hrs (13th) Arrive - 1200hrs (13th) Spend night in Oslo.
Oslo-Gardermoen to Bardufoss
Leave - 1315hrs (14th) Arrive - 1505hrs (14th)
Bardufoss to Oslo-Gardermoen
Leave - 1415hrs (20th) Arrive - 1605hrs (20th) Spend night in Oslo.
Oslo-Gardermoen to London Gatwick
Leave - 1810hrs (21st) Arrive - 1930hrs (21st)
Total Price (Including Taxes & Surcharges): £246.40
2nd Choice:
London Gatwick to Oslo-Gardermoen
Leave - 0840hrs (13th) Arrive - 1200hrs (13th) Spend night in Oslo.
Oslo-Garderdmoen to Bardufoss
Leave - 1315hrs (14th) Arrive - 1505hrs (14th)
At end of course spend a night in Bardufoss.
Bardufoss to Oslo-Gardermoen
Leave - 1530hrs (21st) Arrive - 1720hrs (21st)
Oslo-Gardermoen to London Gatwick
Leave - 1810hrs (21st) Arrive - 1930hrs (21st)
Total Price (Including Taxes & Surcharges): £254.10
These are of course just prices for a single person flying Economy Class.
For the nights in Oslo I have found this hotel, which if we share a room will be very cheap.
http://www.budgethotel.no/oslo/english/index.php?id=2
I'll be taking the first option if anyone wants to travel with me.
I hope this is helpful to some of you.
Time to start getting some gear together:)
Time to start getting some gear together!:)
Leonidas
15-08-2009, 20:21
I've just looked on
http://www.norwegian.com/flight/select-flight/?D_City=OSLALL&A_City=BDU&D_Day=14&D_Month=201002&D_SelectedDay=14&R_Day=20&R_Month=201002&R_SelectedDay=20&CurrencyCode=GBP&processid=50333
It seems there is only one flight to Oslo from Bardufoss on the 20th and it leaves at 1415hrs!
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that before we are dropped at the airport?
(24 hour clocks eh!) Nope dropped off 1 hour 15 minutes prior to the flight :)
Dropped of at BDU at 1300 20th Feb
Depart BDU 1415
(24 hour clocks eh!) Nope dropped off 1 hour 15 minutes prior to the flight :)
Dropped of at BDU at 1300 20th Feb
Depart BDU 1415
Yep my mistake! I read the thread wrong!:nutkick:
So when is this going to happen?
"Included in the price:"
8. Pre course UK briefing and kit/clothing demo.
I would be interested in this, but will need to wait until the end of September to confirm my dates with university. Does it matter if you have not been to a meet before?
littlebiglane
18-08-2009, 07:37
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Nightjar
18-08-2009, 10:17
:(
Looks like I wont be able to go,maybe another time......:o
Philip.........
Any more updates on when the deposit payments are required?
Bushwhacker
27-08-2009, 10:28
Just had a thought. If anyone needs some assistance in keeping the cost down, I've got some Arctic kit that they can borrow, if they so desire, providing they look after/return it.
I'm not going to be needing it at that time, so I'd prefer to know it's being put to good use rather than stowed away doing nothing.
British army Arctic sleeping bag & goretex bivvy
Salopettes
Boots
Goggles
Thick thermarest
Fur hat
Underarmour
Probably a few other bits
I'll be getting more info up early next week, been in Ireland for a bit with limited access.
Chris the Cat
27-08-2009, 14:31
Cheers Tony.
Had Fun?!
C da C.
Thanks for the update Tony!
stretch3144
02-09-2009, 18:14
Tony,
Please could you delete me from this expedition. I am unable to attend due to medical grounds; therefore would like my place to go to someone who can make it.
I look forward to the next one, and hope I'll be fit enough to attend.
All the best,
Ian
P.S. I've got a RAB Down Sleeping Bag (5 season) available for loan if anyone would like to try it - I used it for a survival course in February and the outside temperature was around -4 degrees C, and I was extremely toasty.
Jaysurfer
02-09-2009, 18:50
Anyone on going on this from the South West?
J
Chris the Cat
03-09-2009, 08:27
Me mate,wanna travel up to the airport together?
Cheers.
Chris.
Ok, we're ready to take bookings on this now, the way it's going to work is you need to email info@bushcraftuk.com with Bushcraft UK Arctic Expedition in the subject. You will then receive an email detailing how to pay, terms and conditions and the general information contained in this thread, make sure you read it.
Common sense also dictates that anyone going on an Expedition should take out some insurance, it's just a few quid and protects you in case something happens with the family or yourself.
The Full amount is £420 and the deposit is £170 - See the first post for Exped and related info.
Jaysurfer
03-09-2009, 18:50
That sounds like a bit of a plan Chris the Cat!!!
Chris the Cat
03-09-2009, 21:47
Right on Jaysurfer!!
Email sent Tony.
Tony
Sorry to do this, but due to financial pressures I am going to have to withdraw from this trip
Have a great time guys
Chris the Cat
04-09-2009, 15:43
Deposit paid.
Thanks Tony.
Chris the Cat
04-09-2009, 18:04
Can't find a direct flight to or from Bardufoss on the 14th or 20th.
Anyone know if there is such a thing!?
Traveling from the South West,so the London airports are prob.my best bet.
Sorry to ask but I am a bit crap at this whole 'interweb' thing!!
Cheers.
Chris.
Peterlee_Paddler
12-09-2009, 05:14
Is this meet going to be one large group or split into smaller groups? If so, what will be the individual group size at maximum?
Sorry if it's already been posted but I have looked but could not find mention of this.
Cheers.
Can't find a direct flight to or from Bardufoss on the 14th or 20th.
Anyone know if there is such a thing!?
Traveling from the South West,so the London airports are prob.my best bet.
Sorry to ask but I am a bit crap at this whole 'interweb' thing!!
Cheers.
Chris.
You need to fly to Oslo first mate.
Alas after all my talk and all the dosh I've spent on gear for the course I now have to pull out! Please remove my name from the list!
Chris the Cat
13-09-2009, 20:19
Thats a blow Greg,was looking forward to meeting you!
Another time I hope.
My best.
Chris.
Gailainne
15-09-2009, 10:36
Thats me paid, really looking forward to this.
Bushwhacker
16-09-2009, 14:30
Further to my previous post, the offer's still there if someone wants to borrow some gear to keep the cost down.
barryasmith
19-09-2009, 21:14
So who's actually put down a deposit so far? Two mates and I have. Really looking forward to this one.
Barry
Chris the Cat
20-09-2009, 11:58
Me! Lets get some chat going on about this Barry! (and co!)
How yer getting there? I like the idea of the Norwegian airline for both legs of the trip but have not checked out times and prices yet.
I think it is a case of setting off on a Sat,a kip over night in Oslo airport,and then on again Sunday morning. Anyone know differently!?
I must give Jaysurfer a shout,I think he is in my neck of the woods and is comming along.
Got most of your kit sorted?
Cheers.
Chris.
Those that have pulled out are noted, sorry about that guys :-( There will be other opportunities though I'm sure.
I'll start up a thread so you guys can discuss the Exped :D Put questions for us in here and you can discuss your own arrangements etc in the new one.
GearGuru
23-09-2009, 20:34
How much are the flight costs? there and back and all taxes etc??
I think that some of the others have had a good look at this, have a read through the thread. There's also a thread that you can all talk amongst yourselves on things like travel etc
GearGuru
25-09-2009, 20:08
Im on - now to sort out travel from london I think
Someone asked about these so i thought i'd put them up for anyone interested.
Sunrise 0719 on day 1
Sunset 1539 on day 1
These times naturally get early/later by about 5 mins each day. With the reflection off the snow we can work until about 1830 with out lights.
Leonidas
02-10-2009, 14:19
Sunset 1539 on day 1
With the reflection off the snow we can work until about 1830 with out lights.
Then...if the moon is out and it is a cloudless night, the landscape will look like a photo negative.
If there is no moon we will probably not see our hand in front of our face without a light source....awesome.
Either way the sunsets and sunrises should be jaw dropping with such clear, clean air and no ambient light.
Tom
Finally got confirmation that I will be free to attend this. Is there a deadline for the deposit to be paid? I'm working on the finances for it now!
Gailainne
02-10-2009, 16:37
Then...if the moon is out and it is a cloudless night, the landscape will look like a photo negative.
If there is no moon we will probably not see our hand in front of our face without a light source....awesome.
Either way the sunsets and sunrises should be jaw dropping with such clear, clean air and no ambient light.
Tom
You aint kidding, the quality of light is amazing, even after sunset
This was taken well after sunset
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/Gailainne/winterweiss/CIMG0047.jpg
Cheers
Stephen
Gregorach was telling me at a recent meet that the sun is behaving itself atm, which means no spectacular Aurora Borealis while we are there :( hopefully we will get something, (one of the reasons I'm going).
Leonidas
02-10-2009, 17:36
Finally got confirmation that I will be free to attend this. Is there a deadline for the deposit to be paid? I'm working on the finances for it now!
That is brilliant news, awesome.
Re the deadline, there is deadline for the balance to be paid, the only other deadline would be to beat folks to one of the last remaining places :rolleyes:
There are a handful of places left but if at all possible....I would advise not leaving it until the last minute, an Arctic exped at this price is like finding gold at the end of the rainbow ;)
I missed an Arctic exped last Feb (2009) due to hospitalization, the exped was exactly £2000 for the course PLUS flights and gear etc..it was even in the same region, I was gutted until I learned Tony was cooking this exped up......:D
Think of it this way.....You'll never be short of a conversation piece again...that's priceless :cool:
Tom
Leonidas
02-10-2009, 17:42
You aint kidding, the quality of light is amazing, even after sunset
.
That's very, very nice....
Just like Northern Quebec....so cold it no longer felt cold, but was it dry :rolleyes:
Amongst other things....I can't wait to get round a camp fire, in the Arctic, with like minded folks....
Experiences like these are what is life all about....
Tom
Chris the Cat
02-10-2009, 20:08
You are not wrong Tom!
By the way,when does the balance need paying by?
Thinking of going oldschool this time,Ventile and wool!!
What do you think?!
My best.
Chris.
Boom De Ah Dah
04-10-2009, 06:11
Hello. My first post on this forum, having lurked for some time but not much in the past few months. Well, wouldn't you know it that that's the time the announcement for these expeditions came out? My heart leapt to see the courses, but sunk just as fast to see "Full".
Long story short, I'd love to be a part of this expedition. (To put it mildly. :D ) I'll keep crossing my fingers in my mittens for a place to come free, and for the chance to meet you all in February!
Chris the Cat
04-10-2009, 09:43
Where does it say it is full mate!
C da C.
Boom De Ah Dah
04-10-2009, 17:03
Hey C da Cat! According to the Expedition page on Ray Mears' website, both courses are showing as full. If I'm wrong about that, can someone put me right, or better still, tell me where to sign up? :)
Chris the Cat
04-10-2009, 17:33
Its organised by Bushcraft UK mate! This site right here!!
Go to the first post in this thread by Tony,and details to sign up are all there!!
Get on it!!
My best.
Chris.
Boom De Ah Dah
04-10-2009, 18:21
Thank you so much, Chris. Me: :o
deposit paid email to follow Tony,
cant wat for February to come now, i think i will go and hang about the freezer tonight to get some valuable training in.
Looking forward to meeting all you guys
Col Newman
peds8045
15-10-2009, 21:26
Just PM'd Tony if there are any places left. If yes then i will pay the deposit and start looking for flights:)
Chris the Cat
15-10-2009, 21:29
You are a star!
Look forward to meeting you mate!
My best.
Chris.
Leonidas
15-10-2009, 23:16
Just PM'd Tony if there are any places left. If yes then i will pay the deposit and start looking for flights:)
Excellent news, once you are on-board that will leave two places to fill :)
Tom
wolf man
16-10-2009, 13:07
I've just PM'd Tony asking for a place, and will be sending a deposit ASAP.
Looking forward to meeting you guys (also gets me out of a sking trip, I Do NOT enjoy downhill sking!!!)
Chris the Cat
16-10-2009, 13:36
Good work that man!
C da C.
Leonidas
16-10-2009, 14:46
I've just PM'd Tony asking for a place, and will be sending a deposit ASAP.
Looking forward to meeting you guys (also gets me out of a sking trip, I Do NOT enjoy downhill sking!!!)
This is great news, glad you are joining us Wolfman :D
Re the skiing, there is always an opportunity to go skiing....but a week in the Arctic :rolleyes:
Great choice...
Tom
Peterlee_Paddler
21-10-2009, 14:14
Right, pipex gremlins sorted, I now need to sort some kit hire to cut down on my travel allowance, as does my brother (he's just text'd me saying his deposit is paid).
Who do we get in touch with about hire?
I'll post this on the other thread in case I am in the wrong place.
Cheers.
Knobby Norway
24-10-2009, 16:22
Hi,
Sorry but due to a car crash I will not be able to go on the trip to Norway in Feb. I thought i will be able to but was recently told by my Dr that treatment is likely to continue well into the new year.
I wish all those that are going a fantastic time
Kind regards
Darren
peds8045
26-10-2009, 12:44
Does this mean we are back down to fifteen or were we over 16 attendees before this event?
Sorry to hear about your car crash Knobby Norway. I wish you a speedy recovery. If there is not a spare space on the expedition then I'm as keen as mustard to take it.
Knobby Norway, had you booked flights from the UK already? If so then it may be possible to transfer them over and save you wasting the cash.
Sorry to hear about the trouble Darren, what a pain, next time mate, we'll get some dates up and you can aim for then.
Dexter, you're more than welcome mate, i've sent you the information already :D
Thanks for the info. Going to chance it and wait until pay day to make the deposit. Fingers crossed.
vinnyp68
27-11-2009, 17:34
Tony Bristow
Phill Grant
Chris the Cat
Atross
Gailainne
Littlebiglane
Stretch3144
Korvin Karbon
Jaysurfer
Firebringer
Johnnytheboy
Matthew.Passmore
Johan Hoogendijk (NL)
Marc Smeehuijzen (NL)
ddokkum (NL)
littlefolker
dardar (IRL)
knobby norway(uk)
Barry Smith
Chris Hall
johnnytheboy (john forret)
Leonidas
Geoffrey McMullan
Adam Logan (UK)
Vince (UK)
and me..
Tony Bristow
Phill Grant
Chris the Cat
Atross
Gailainne
Littlebiglane
Stretch3144
Korvin Karbon
Jaysurfer
Firebringer
Johnnytheboy
Matthew.Passmore
Johan Hoogendijk (NL)
Marc Smeehuijzen (NL)
ddokkum (NL)
littlefolker
dardar (IRL)
knobby norway(uk)
Barry Smith
Chris Hall
johnnytheboy (john forret)
Leonidas
Geoffrey McMullan
Adam Logan (UK)
Vince (UK)
Dexter (UK)
peds8045
28-11-2009, 20:21
and me..
Tony Bristow
Phill Grant
Chris the Cat
Atross
Gailainne
Littlebiglane
Stretch3144
Korvin Karbon
Jaysurfer
Firebringer
Johnnytheboy
Matthew.Passmore
Johan Hoogendijk (NL)
Marc Smeehuijzen (NL)
ddokkum (NL)
littlefolker
dardar (IRL)
knobby norway(uk)
Barry Smith
Chris Hall
johnnytheboy (john forret)
Leonidas
Geoffrey McMullan
Adam Logan (UK)
Vince (UK)
Dexter (UK)
Peds8045 (UK) Pete
Due to a new job and projectdeadlines Im not able to join in februari.
Succes with the preparations!
Tony
Late into this i know but can i get in on this this trip - and can someone bring me up to date on the travel situation. I tried ploughing through the pages but i am now terminally confused.
If there are cancellations that i can take over id be happy to do that.
Cheers
Nick
Leonidas
16-12-2009, 21:44
Tony
Late into this i know but can i get in on this this trip - and can someone bring me up to date on the travel situation. I tried ploughing through the pages but i am now terminally confused.
If there are cancellations that i can take over id be happy to do that.
Cheers
Nick
Can't speak re availability of spaces etc....Over to Tony...
But re travel options, insurance pointers etc
If you PM me your email address I'll send you a document containing plenty of appropriate info in a logical format.
Essentially everyone is arranging their own travel and getting to the rendezvous (RV) point:-
RV at 15:30hr on the 14th Feb 2010 in Bardufoss airport arrivals hall (Airport code BDU)
Drop off for travel home 13:00hr on the 20th at BDU airport
BDU airport from UK via OSL Gardermoen airport OSLO
Their is no longer a group flight deal from OSL to BDU (Ended up more expensive anyway)
Tom
msmeehui
16-12-2009, 22:59
Removed the three (NL)-guys. They are not going.
Tony Bristow
Phill Grant
Chris the Cat
Atross
Gailainne
Littlebiglane
Stretch3144
Korvin Karbon
Jaysurfer
Firebringer
Johnnytheboy
Matthew.Passmore
littlefolker
dardar (IRL)
knobby norway(uk)
Barry Smith
Chris Hall
johnnytheboy (john forret)
Leonidas
Geoffrey McMullan
Adam Logan (UK)
Vince (UK)
Dexter (UK)
Peds8045 (UK) Pete
GearGuru
16-12-2009, 23:08
You forgot to include me in this list:eek:
Tony Bristow
Phill Grant
Chris the Cat
Atross
Gailainne
Littlebiglane
Stretch3144
Korvin Karbon
Jaysurfer
Firebringer
Johnnytheboy
Matthew.Passmore
littlefolker
dardar (IRL)
knobby norway(uk)
Barry Smith
Chris Hall
johnnytheboy (john forret)
Leonidas
Geoffrey McMullan
Adam Logan (UK)
Vince (UK)
Dexter (UK)
Peds8045 (UK) Pete[/QUOTE]
Nickg (Nick Gibson)
GearGuru
17-12-2009, 08:19
Tony Bristow
Phill Grant
Chris the Cat
Atross
Gailainne
Littlebiglane
Stretch3144
Korvin Karbon
Jaysurfer
Firebringer
Johnnytheboy
Matthew.Passmore
littlefolker
dardar (IRL)
knobby norway(uk)
Barry Smith
Chris Hall
johnnytheboy (john forret)
Leonidas
Geoffrey McMullan
Adam Logan (UK)
Vince (UK)
Dexter (UK)
Peds8045 (UK) Pete
Nickg (Nick Gibson)[/QUOTE]
GearGuru
barryasmith
17-12-2009, 08:44
Hi
I'm re-adding Gary Nimmo to this list. He's all paid up but seems to have slipped off this list.
Barry
Tony Bristow
Phill Grant
Chris the Cat
Atross
Gailainne
Littlebiglane
Stretch3144
Korvin Karbon
Jaysurfer
Firebringer
Johnnytheboy
Matthew.Passmore
littlefolker
dardar (IRL)
knobby norway(uk)
Barry Smith
Chris Hall
johnnytheboy (john forret)
Leonidas
Geoffrey McMullan
Adam Logan (UK)
Vince (UK)
Dexter (UK)
Peds8045 (UK) Pete
Gary Nimmo
This is the list
David Taylor x 2
Chris Hall
Steven Lock
Stephen Conway
Barry Smith
Gary Nimmo
Chris Davies
Chris Myatt
Thomas Law
Tony McGarley
Col Newman
Stuart Lafferty
Peter Gough
Manse
Peter McGarley
Ed Russell
Simon Flatres
Scott Rogan
Vince Pittman
We can accommodate 4 more max and they'll have to be full payments at this stage. So, nickg, yes mate, you're more than welcome to join, I'll send you through the info.
This is the list
David Taylor x 2
Chris Hall
Steven Lock
Stephen Conway
Barry Smith
Gary Nimmo
Chris Davis
Chris Myatt
Thomas Law
Tony McGarley
Col Newman
Stuart Lafferty
Peter Gough
Manse
Peter McGarley
Ed Russell
Simon Flatres
Scott Rogan
Vince Pittman
We can accommodate 4 more max and they'll have to be full payments at this stage. So, nickg, yes mate, you're more than welcome to join, I'll send you through the info.
Thanks Tony
Moneys in the bank (and I'll pay as soon as I get the info) and the time is booked so, transport depending, I'll see you all there
Cheers
Nick
sent out an email to you earlier today ;-)
sent out an email to you earlier today ;-)
All recieved from both you & Tom thanks - just sorting out flights etc and ill have it tied up.
Currently snowed in in sunny kent so ill be functional testing my equipment a little earlier than planned today.
cheers
Nick
Chris the Cat
18-12-2009, 08:31
Its not that important Tony,but there is no 'e' in my Davis!
Cheers,and roll on feb!!
Chris ( Davis ) the Cat.
Come on Chris, dont you know, thats the arctic spelling of your name hes using, when in rome and all that ect ect..
All the best, Pingu
Scottish name (colin)
Chris the Cat
18-12-2009, 09:33
Lol! fair one mate!
You all sorted Colin?
Chris.
Mr Davis, you've been corrected :D
Yeh Chris, most things sorted now, just a hotel to stay in for either side of the trip in Oslo, got most of the kit already, and im hopeful santa will ram a few bushcrafty things down my central heating pipe on xmas day so it really should be just deciding what im taking and what im leaving behind..
What about you, you got everything ready to go...
Colin
Anybody got any tips on a convenient overnight in oslo in the 14th - looks like all the direct trips are taken
Cheers
Nick
Leonidas
20-12-2009, 15:20
Anybody got any tips on a convenient overnight in oslo in the 14th - looks like all the direct trips are taken
Cheers
Nick
Nick - I may just be reading your message incorrectly but just to make sure :)
Recall we rendezvous on the 14th at Bardufoss, if you cannot find direct flight I assume you will fly out the day prior and need an overnight in Oslo for the 13th (Not 14th)....
Just making sure as your message could read I am looking for an overnight stsay for the 14th..... :)
Have never ever assumed travel arrangements since letting someone else arrange the travel for a group holiday years ago....we all arrived at the airport a day early....for the return leg......needless to say he got his just desserts :)
Cheers
Tom
No worries booked on the same flight out as you Tom - screwed up the date for the return (20 march instead of feb) and the slimey BA gits wanted to charge me another £186 to change it so i will be taking a slightle later flight back on sat (20:50 not 17:10)
So out on BA0726 to oslo and DY934 to Bardufoss on the 14th then back from Bardufoss DY395 to Oslo and on by BA0769 to Heathrow. Does that sound sound??
Went from not so chear to soddin expensive it one fell swoop.
Now who do I pay for the course?
Right now I'm snowed in in deepest kent and have a stinking cold so the whole trip is soured in my mouth at the mo. But i know it will be great when were there!
cheers
Nick
Gailainne
20-12-2009, 20:46
I'm taking the 20:50 BA0769 flight back on the 20th as well
Be nice to have some company
Cheers
Nick
peds8045
20-12-2009, 22:01
I too have the same flight back to Heathrow on the 20th...nice to know i wont be the only smelly person on the flight:)
Leonidas
21-12-2009, 04:30
I too have the same flight back to Heathrow on the 20th...nice to know i wont be the only smelly person on the flight:)
Their may be some irony here....
February - We will all return to dear old blighty, the relative temperature compared to the previous week in Bardufoss, will be like California.....hot 'n' sweaty, probably down to our tee's and with huge downy jackets tied around our waists.....nice, we should be ok for seats on the plane chaps....
Hope it is a wide bodied plane :lmao:
Tom
Hi Tony - PM sent, but I'm now up and available for taking part in this.
NickG - I'll try and get the same flight details if that's okay?
Money is in the bank, just give me the go ahead and I'm there.
Cheers,
Ag
yeah itd be good to see you again - dont hang around booking the flights - theyre getting pricey
Cheers
Nick
Somebody tell me who i need to pay and how much. I emailed Woody but have no reply as yet am I paying them or Tony or What?
Confused
Nick
Hi Mate, you can pay using anyof the mathods on the information document. I'm away from my computer at the moment so i've not got it to hand, it's in the doc though, it doesn't matter if it's Bushcraft Expeditions or bushcraft uk.
Leonidas
22-12-2009, 10:58
Nick - If you are struggling, let me know and I'll PM the info...
Tom
Email sent to you both, all the info you need :D We'll forward the briefing info as soon as you're signed up
Somebody tell me who i need to pay and how much. I emailed Woody but have no reply as yet am I paying them or Tony or What?
Confused
Nick
Hi Nick,
Can you let me know which address you used or try emailing again ... we have received no email from you here in the office
Woody
peds8045
22-12-2009, 20:14
Did a bit of a packing exercise today as i'm off work for christmas. Basically i pulled together all the kit that Woody has listed in his kit list, put aside the stuff i'll be wearing (i was sensible about this, i.e. only wearing what i need rather than everything that i could wear) and then packed the rest in a small 35L rucksack (hand baggage) and a 65L rucksack (hold baggage).
With it all packed (less towel, swimwear and washing kit) including my SFA, the large pack weighed 12kg and the small one weighed 4.5kg a total of 16.5kg out of a maximum permisible of 30kg. So i now know that i have lots of spare capacity to add a couple of luxury items perhaps.
I can recommend that you give it a try if for no other reason than to give you peace of mind. :)
Now i just need to pack it more carefully to free up some volume for the extras.:confused:
E-mail received - I'll be in contact tomorrow with full payment.
Cheers for the advice about the flights Nick - I'll get searching promptly.
As a piece of advice to you all, take a good camera with some spares - the last time mine managed to blow up, with not a single picture..... :-(
Peds8045 - I've just dug out all the stuff from last time - I had forgotten how bulky everything was; it's not the weight to worry about, but I would recommend some compression bags if you have them available - it makes packing a little easier!
Tony
Email recieved and full payment made to you by bank transfer let me know if you didnt receive it and ill check.
Woody thanks anyway - not sure what happened to my email but i guess it is sorted now anyway.
Cheers
Nick
Tony - full payment made to the helpful lady on the phone number provided.
See you all there!
Ag
Just a little info guys. It's SWMBO's birthday today and I took her out for the day in Porcupine Mountain park Manitoba.
Visibility ACE
Cloudcover None
Temp -35c
Windchill -43c
Couple of pics for ya
http://i47.tinypic.com/8zo5k9.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/walqvn.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/2rdao3a.jpg
http://i50.tinypic.com/xcuo1s.jpg
Dave
Hope the piccys of swmbo we better - those ones were SERIOUSLY unattractive.
Scenery was nice though.
Cheers
Nick
Hello All
I am Voges and I am new here.
I am a travel freak and I explored many countries already.
Looking forward to exchange my experiences with you guys
Apologies if I've missed it anywhere , but has there been an 'official' BCUK exped -debrief / presentation of the trip yet???
And if there has can someone point me in the right direction so i can take a gander?
Also it it worth off the back of this to discuss the next possible Arctic exped ?? Seems all the possible exped information and discussion has gone a little quiet?
I would like to think we could schedule the next one in for feb 2012? , which is supposed to be the height of the 11 year Northern Lights cycle.
Cheers
The dates we're working on are in march 2011, I'll bring up the lights. It's a definite go for next year, we're just finalising a few details.
The dates we're working on are in march 2011, I'll bring up the lights. It's a definite go for next year, we're just finalising a few details.
Thanks Tony , Appreciate the Update and also that your up very , very late for a school night.