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I'm keen to get a possibles pouch for xmas. I've seen the one on the Bearclaw site for £55, and while I'm sure it's worth it (looks very well made) it's a bit too expensive for me to ask for.
So, are there any alternatives? I like the style, and leather would be good, but not essential. I like the look of the native American medicine bags/pouches too, but can't seem to track down a source (in the UK at least)
Any pictures and links would be greatly appreciated :biggthump
Hellz
Squidders
15-12-2004, 20:31
Hellz, ask for the Bearclaw one... I did :wink:
You could make your own. Or in my case get someone to make it for you.
BIG-TARGET
16-12-2004, 00:56
And don't forget the local military surplus market :biggthump
Buckshot
16-12-2004, 08:56
Pearce Tandy have some indian style bags, some with tassles, some without which might be what you're after.
Some of these are in kit form so you put it together yourself.
They're usually good value, I bought a pair of moccasin slippers from them a while ago in kit form for about £10.
I'm sure someone will have the phone number, I haven't got my catalogue with me at the moment.
Cheers
Mark
Paganwolf
16-12-2004, 09:11
Niel1 made a good one, have a look in his gallery,he did a tutorial iirc oops sorry if i remember correctly :rolmao: try a search buddy :biggthump
bambodoggy
16-12-2004, 11:55
I don't use a possibles pouch as such....I use a possibles bag! It's basically an old army napsack about a 1'x1'x 5" and made of canvas with a shoulder strap....it does me fine and cost about £4 from my local army surplus shop.
I've also got a nice trekking style one that I got for £10....
I'm going to take a few pics soon and put them up so you'll see what I mean.
I agree on the possibles bag. The concept worked really well for Colonial America. Here are a few web sites that sell both leather possibles bags and textile:
http://wildeweavery.com/
http://longhunterleather.tripod.com/pg1.html
http://www.kenscottpouches.com/ (Really cool stuff but pricey!!!)
http://www.geocities.com/trekkertim/WillShaw.html
http://www.white-river-trader.com/
BKR
bambodoggy
16-12-2004, 16:55
Yer, that's pretty much the sort of thing I use although not as elaborate as some of those....mine's dead basic!
I got the idea from reading about North american Trappers/hunters etc...
bothyman
16-12-2004, 18:25
You could try putting " cartridge bag " in the Ebay search engine??
Just looked they may have something you like. :wave:
You could try putting " cartridge bag " in the Ebay search engine??
Just looked they may have something you like. :wave:
I can't believe I didn't think of that! I have a cartridge bag in storage, left over from my shotgun shooting days. I'll fish it out and see about addding some belt loops...
Or get one with them already attached for xmas...
genius, thanks :biggthump
Hellz
hi at www.shootinggear.co.uk
i was at above place the other day and napier do a canvas closed cartidge carrier to carry on the belt a good alternative if you dont' want to make one or if you don't mind if it not leather..
p.s product is not on web site but just givr them a ring..
BIG-TARGET
17-12-2004, 00:08
I found a Rick's Army-Navy, down the road from where I work, a possible "Possibles bag". A Modern British surplus gas mask bag.
It's rubber coated nylon(waterproof), a number of smaller pockets. The only negatives, is you cannot make it a Frontier/retro bag with it, and it's padded, so no patches!!
bambodoggy
17-12-2004, 11:39
Right...I've flooded the pics bit with photo's of my possibles bag and what i keep in it....
I don't always have that much in it...for example: I'd take out the catapult and ballbearings if I know I'm not going to be allowed to hunt etc....
Spare fags are very important to me and my harmoney with anyone else I meet!!!! :o):
Sorry to plaster my pics everywhere!
Paganwolf
17-12-2004, 11:57
In Camden lock market by dingwalls (now lock No1) theres a army surplus stall at the bottom of the stairs, they sell leather belt pouches that would be perfect at 10 quid,just out of interest. Also if your after army kit from all over the world camden market is the place to go under the arches are some huge surplus places.
Andrew Middleton
17-12-2004, 12:55
I have a small leather pouch (bearclaw I think), but sometimes it is not big enough, particularly if I go out with my boys. There is a shop in Epsom which sells riding clothes etc and they have a traditional school uniform department. In that, I saw some traditional leather school satchels of two different sizes and instantly thought they would make excellent possibles bags. I need to go back and price them, but fear they could be expensive.
Roving Rich
17-12-2004, 13:55
I tend to go in for the current Gas mask pouch too. It has a shoulder strap aswell as a belt loop, a handy Phone sized pocket on the outside, aswell as a not so useful internal pocket. Capacity can be a Staggering 8 cans of stella ! :super: hic
The next pouch on my list is the one Stuart currently sports - a Maxpedition Roly Poly belt pouch, As the name suggests it can be folded and rolled up, to be a small "fag packet" size on your belt. Unroll it and stuff it with your forraged goodies, a few bunnies or in Stuarts case his Hennessy Hammock. It definetely is a possibles pouch, tucked out the way when not needed, but an instant volumous pouch at the pull of the velcro tab.
Its on my Christmas list....Please Santa. :roll: If you prefer something with a few compartments to keep your tat better organised, then there are a number of different shoulder and Waist bags further up Maxpeditions range. Ask Jack and Jamie (AKA Woodland Oorganics (http://www.woodlandorganics.com)) for advice, as thes are their babies.
I know a person, who was very grateful to have had all their emergency kit well organised, and to hand in one of these pouches, when they were involved in a major road traffic accident. :wink:
Cheers
Rich
Paganwolf
17-12-2004, 18:06
Strikeforce do the resperator pouches the PLCE resperator haversak is good £6, i have one and recommend them they also have the 58 pattern nylon one also £4, cheap as you like :wink:http://www.strikeforcesupplies.co.uk/stock.php?page=webbing
Paganwolf
17-12-2004, 18:07
Nice to see another stella appreciator too Rich :wink: :rolmao:
arctic hobo
17-12-2004, 20:49
Another here :wave: :o):
That respirator haversack looks brilliant, and at £4 a true bargain. Think I'll get one of them. Thanks PW :biggthump
Paganwolf
17-12-2004, 21:03
no worries the 6 quid ones the better one :biggthump
BIG-TARGET
17-12-2004, 21:31
The one I bought is the 58 pattern :-)
Paganwolf
17-12-2004, 21:48
I just prefer newer one, they do the same job though, the 58 one was the 1st one i bought years ago for when i went squirreling, you can get a good few in one of those, i used to wash it to freshen it up from time to time, it didnt like it much and it got a bit too close to the fire one day and the outer melted :roll: the other ones are tougher and clean up a little better, but come to think about it i suppose for 4 quid for a 58 one, it doesnt realy matter :lol:
BIG-TARGET
21-12-2004, 23:27
The only real change I have doneto my 58 bag was to cut off the original shoulder strap(too narrow, digs into shoulder). And replaced it with a wider 2 inch wide shoulder strap.
Reading the above there does seem to be some confusion about the use/size of a possibles pouch/bag.
If I may make so bold (bold not bald) I will endeavour to define the differences as I see them.
Possibles pouch - a small pouch worn on a belt (with your knife) that contains those most essential items, ie fire lighting kit and paracord. Its purpose is to act like the woodsman survival kit and is worn all the time, the last things you should take off are your pants and then your possibles pouch! It should be unobtrusive (so your not inclined not to wear it) and can be worn with trousers, shorts etc.
Possibles bag - larger item, can be a shoulder bag (respirator haversack) or a small day sack (plce single jet pack) this contains slightly more kit predominately water and Metal mug or pot as well as other useful items like folding saw. poncho ect - this by its nature is taken off and on and in worse case scenerio could be lost which is why you have your possibles pouch on your belt!
After this we are then onto packs and full kit, bashas, sleepng bags ect ect.
BIG-TARGET
22-12-2004, 10:18
gary;
Point is well taken.
But as far as a possibles bag goes. This may be where american and european cultural differences may include differences in the definition(s) of a possibles bag. In the european midieval terms, the possibles bag was on the belt. TRUE!!!!
Then in the american's early days, especially during the revolution and the "mountain man" eras, the possibles bag was a shoulder bag, that was a bit smaller than the gear bag.
As my dad says:"It's not good or bad, it's just IS."
BT - SPOT ON, and as we use the term 'possibles' we regards to the fur trade era and custom of carrying the things that make life possible the possibles bag is a shoulder bag. IMO we generally ignore medieval names from europe in bushcraft finding fur trade, native american ect names more romantic and applicable.
The Possibles pouch (on the belt) in the fur trade days was also (more commonly) called a strike-a-light pouch and maybe this name is a better one given that it highlights its contents i.e fire making kit. That said in modern usage possible pouch has become the vogue and hence the need to differentiate between a 'possibles' bag and pouch.
Did that make sense? :?:
. IMO we generally ignore medieval names from europe in bushcraft finding fur trade, native american ect names more romantic and applicable.
or maybe we just dont know them :?:
But as far as a possibles bag goes. This may be where american and european cultural differences may include differences in the definition(s) of a possibles bag. In the european midieval terms, the possibles bag was on the belt. TRUE!!!!
Aha, so being a European, my belt mounted pouch really is a possible bag then!:-)
whitebuffalo
22-12-2004, 12:37
Possibles pouch, possibles bag seems straight forward to me.
Old english names are probably not used for a reason, can you imagine if we used the old english name for a sheath in public?
Possibles pouch, possibles bag seems straight forward to me.
Old english names are probably not used for a reason, can you imagine if we used the old english name for a sheath in public?
Scabbard?
:rolmao: White buffalo if my memory serves me correctly I think your probably right.
Jakunen the old english/anglo saxon name for a sheath is 'c u next tuesday' and it is where our slang word for the female sexual organ comes from - i.e you put your weapon in it!
bambodoggy
22-12-2004, 13:00
No way!!!! lol.... I never knew that! That's so funny!!!!.... :super:
Well you live and learn Bambam!
Right, I'm filing that one away for ever. You never know when you might need to fill an awkward silence with an interesting fact. Such as a job interview maybe? Or a Date?? :yikes:
Cheers for that Gary,
Martin
falling rain
22-12-2004, 13:39
Just found this site http://www.jelldragon.com/index.htm I've not bought anything from them but they look as though they do some great bushcrafty type stuff amongst other things. Fire steels, dice games, horns for drinking, leather goods and all sorts. Have good browse
And in case I don't make any more posts before Chrimbo.....Have a good Christmas one and all, and I hope you all get what you wish for and best wishes and luck in the new year
Falling Rain :wave:
:rolmao: White buffalo if my memory serves me correctly I think your probably right.
Jakunen the old english/anglo saxon name for a sheath is 'c u next tuesday' and it is where our slang word for the female sexual organ comes from - i.e you put your weapon in it!
Trust you to know that Gary!!!
But it does make sense of an old 70s song (Je suis un Rock Star). IIRC there was some line about 'couche' or summat, the English of which being to 'couche' or 'sheath' a weapon. Never did get that line, but I was only an innocent little kid...
bambodoggy
22-12-2004, 14:04
And I guess that seeing as you would have stuck your knife/sword into your ememy then it would be maybe why we/they call/called people they didn't like "Right.....", you get the idea!
It all makes such sence to me now! :o):
BIG-TARGET
22-12-2004, 14:04
BT - SPOT ON, and as we use the term 'possibles' we regards to the fur trade era and custom of carrying the things that make life possible the possibles bag is a shoulder bag. IMO we generally ignore medieval names from europe in bushcraft finding fur trade, native american ect names more romantic and applicable.
The Possibles pouch (on the belt) in the fur trade days was also (more commonly) called a strike-a-light pouch and maybe this name is a better one given that it highlights its contents i.e fire making kit. That said in modern usage possible pouch has become the vogue and hence the need to differentiate between a 'possibles' bag and pouch.
Did that make sense? :?:
A "fire kit" that was on the belt, behind the knife! :You_Rock_
...horns for drinking leather goods...
Shaken or stirred?
:o):
I bought the odd item off these guys in my re-enactment days - not a bad range but not all of it is what I would class as hardy enough for bushcraft. And I remember one of my mates had a great deal of trouble with them over a seax sheath.
If you like the idea of this type of itme you might like to visit a re-enactors fair - here you can get raw materials as well as all manner of gear!
brucemacdonald
22-12-2004, 16:22
I don't think anyone has mentioned the Bison Bushcraft possibles pouch.
Pricey at £65, but beautifully made and the leather has a nice coarse grain to it. I keep mine in good condition with beeswax-based shoe protector lotion.
Bought mine at the last Wilderness Gathering. :-)
Best wishes
Bruce
falling rain
22-12-2004, 16:28
I bought the odd item off these guys in my re-enactment days - not a bad range but not all of it is what I would class as hardy enough for bushcraft. And I remember one of my mates had a great deal of trouble with them over a seax sheath.
If you like the idea of this type of itme you might like to visit a re-enactors fair - here you can get raw materials as well as all manner of gear!
I'm not really interested in the swords etc, but there's a few bits and bobs like Leather thonging (no crude remarks please) for bowdrill cord and in the leather goods there's a nice little leather needle case for your sewing kit amongst a few other interesting bits and pieces. Does seem a bit on the expensive side though, but having said that it all looks like good quality handmade stuff so I suppose you expect to pay a bit more than factory produced tat
One of those Re enactors fairs might be worth a look. I didn't even know there was such a thing. Might go along to one next year - Cheers
Bought mine at the last Wilderness Gathering. :-)
I was hoping to get a look at one of those, but couldn't see any there.
No worries - biggest one is held in oxford usually around august - I'll give everyone the heads up nearer the time.
There's also a very large re-enactors fair a couple of miles up the road from me at Herstmonceaux. I usually steer clear cos I know that I won't be able to keep clear from the market and that always ends up in a wallet emptying exercise :yikes:
But for the sake of the people on this site, I will keep my eyes open for it. I think it's usually over the August bank holiday.
Cheers,
Martin
Friday 19th - Sunday 21st Feb 'Original Re-enactors Market, Conexion Leisure Centre, Lemington Road, Ryton-on-Dunsmore, Coverntry, CV8 3FL, just off the M45, A45.
Hellz, ask for the Bearclaw one... I did :wink:
So did I. And I'm glad I did, it's a beauty :biggthump
I know it might not be cheap, but in this case you really do get what you pay for !!
Cheers,
Martin
Squidders
25-12-2004, 23:41
Shinobi,
I asked for it but wasn't expecting it as it's more than I would ask for from a friend and Eloise is already getting me a knife... but...
Eloise did get it for me!!! It's really really nice, well made, functional and truely a thing of beauty.
I love my girlfriend, she's great!
Eloise did get it for me!!! It's really really nice, well made, functional and truely a thing of beauty.
Excellent Squiders :biggthump
Michelle had a bit of trouble justifying the cost of mine when she bought it for me but then I opened her wardrobe and compared it to a couple of her handbags, that I know cost more than this pouch and started to pick out the flaws in them. She came round to my way of thinking !!
Enjoy your pouch and your knife :-)
Martin
Hellz, ask for the Bearclaw one... I did
So did I. And I'm glad I did, it's a beauty
Well, I didn't ask for one as such, but my lovely girlfriend say I have one on the way!
:red:
Didn't make it for Xmas, but should be soon apparently! Excellent :biggthump
Thanks for all the comments... it's been very interesting :wink:
Hellz
Georgina gave me a Bearclaw Possibles Pouch for a Christmas gift :hyper:
She also gave me the Ultimate Tinder Pouch, Flint n Steel and the Mora Knife (the one with the wooden red handle). :super:
Hi,
Don't know if you guys are still looking for suppliers of pouches but I found these guys searching the web today. May suit your need.
http://www.cobrabelts.com/