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Ogden
08-12-2004, 23:17
Some years ago I met a guy who told me about his gaiters made of Loden cloth ("always warm, never wet inside, no disturbing sound...").
I have tried gore-tex gaiters, which I donīt like because under them I was always wet. I still use my old canvas gaiters, and still like them. But wool should do much better. Any experience, any idea where to get them?

hobbitboy
09-12-2004, 00:39
Theres a certain level of irony with GTX gaiters, cos (as far as my understanding goes) once they get covered in mud/general crap they loose there breathability.....

tomtom
09-12-2004, 00:45
when the defusion gradient is higher outside they dont "breath" anyway.. and as you say, hobbitboy, you only ware gaters when its wet/muddy and they are always wet gortex gaters are about as useful as a Chocolate Teaspoon.

let us know if you find anything Ogden

alick
09-12-2004, 09:56
I don't agree.

My reason for getting GTXgaiters was to get the yeti style with a rubber rand that seals around the bood and really helps keep snow & water as well as the mud out. These are pretty long - stopping just below the knee - so on the average day out I'm rarely caked in mud to this depth. The GTX really does help reduce the steam around the calves.

If you don't get yeti style, then they're not going to be waterproof anyway so I'd choose canvas for better wear and breathability.

Ogden - loden cloth is a traditional material used for hunting and outdoors clothes in Germany, Austrian etc. You can also get double mountaineering boots for alpine use where the inner boot is made of or lined with loden for warmth. I've seen these and it's like thick felt in this application.

My one concern would be abrasion resistance.

I've no idea of the website but the biggest name I've heard of on the German hunting scene is Edouard Kettner. They do a paper catalogue that's nearly an inch thick and has everything from traditional clothes through arms, knives, dog stuff, game rearing, bits for butchering and preparing trophies, you name it.

Cheers

arctic hobo
09-12-2004, 16:46
Personally I'd not use gaiters to keep mud off - after all something has to washed, whether it's your trousers or gaiters. And as you say when mud sticks on they are useless. Instead I use gaiters just for snow and ice, where it quickly melts enough to slide off, retaining breathability. I seriously recommend goretex if you're using gaiters or you will just fill your boots with sweat. Also I recommend you just use them in snow. :-)

familne
09-12-2004, 17:03
I regularly wash my goretex gaiters, keeps them in top condition.

Ogden
10-12-2004, 02:30
I do not recommend the Edouard Kettner-shops. Sitting here in Germany, I know the shops and the catalogue. Itīs for hunter, but the german style...dentists in Merzedes and..wow,they have heavy guns...
Kettner has strange Meindl shoes, which they produce only for them, looks like cheap stuff.
And they do not have Loden gaiters.
But I found my canvas gaiters there ten years ago - one point for them.

Loden-abrasion resistance should be ok, I have a Loden jacket and itīs strange: the cloth looks like as if you have to be careful, but it is made for work. They wear it in the mountains, people know what to do. Itīs quite good in mud and rain.
Of course a pair of 1000 den Cordura has itīs advantages, but the striking reason for Loden is the sound! You donīt hear anything. Synthetik is horrible, even canvas loud; Loden - you hear birds and insects while walking.

I donīt see any use for Gore-tex in gaiters. Why should I walk with wet legs and shoes?

RovingArcher
10-12-2004, 03:18
You might try doing a search for the Swedish Military wool leg warmers. I found a source for them here, but they I don't think that they ship outside of N. America. But, if you would like to see them, they can be found at Sportsmans guide (http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?a=170568)

Ogden
10-12-2004, 17:29
Leg warmers, never seen that before! Not tough enough, I suppose , but thanks for the link.

Nightfall
10-12-2004, 19:12
Why could'nt one make them? I imagen one could get wool fabric to wrap around the legs. You could use cordage or velcro to hold them in place. With the cord one would have to check often to make sure that they are still in place. Any ideas on this?

tomtom
10-12-2004, 19:17
its certainly possible.. the pattern is a very simple one!!