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TheViking
21-11-2004, 13:57
How do you prepare and make your small tea, cocoa or coffee drinks when out and about? :wink:
I prefer cocoa, then tea and finannly coffee, but I don't like coffee. :roll:
I think we all have our favourite way of making our drink and we want to do it by ourselves. :-)
I put 2 large spoons of cocoa and 2 dl. of hot water in a cup and then 1 spoon of sugar if possible. Mix it and let it "cool" for 1 minute. :o): Then sit in the woods and enjoy. :biggthump And I want to make it by myself! :shock:
hobbitboy
21-11-2004, 15:28
Coffee! Always the coffee!!
Boil the grounds in the pan with the water, let it settle, pour out coffee while preferably filtering it through something! Think its the way turkish coffee is made....but not sure. The longer you boil it for the stronger the coffee
Lately I have started using Mocha more and more - great survival drink favoured by the Marines for cold weather ebviroments and a good drink for packing as it needs no sugar or milk.
Another good one is Apple tea again for the reasons above.
Coffee...then Black tea. Never with sugar!
But, is it just me, or is instant coffee much nicer than the real deal? :yikes: I have found no-one who agrees!
Does milk taste funny out of flasks to anyone else?
Whats Mocha Gary? Coffee?
TheViking
21-11-2004, 16:22
Whats Mocha Gary? Coffee?
I think it's a mix between cocoa and coffee? :roll: :wink:
its coffee with chocolate in!
One of those posh jobbies that you get in those trendy coffe bars! 163 types of coffee, not one of them called "coffee" :banghead:
Nightfall
21-11-2004, 16:31
I like yerba mate, followed up by cocoa. I love the smell of coffee but cant stand the taste.
Lately I have started using Mocha more and more - great survival drink favoured by the Marines for cold weather ebviroments and a good drink for packing as it needs no sugar or milk.
Another good one is Apple tea again for the reasons above.
Mocha is top dog, but I generally carry coffee (Carte Noir or Gold Blend), and Brown Sugar. Real coffee in the field is a luxury that I have never used.
Tea I barely ever use, it provides waste if you haven't time to dry your tea bags and use them as tinder
squeeezz them out and put them by the fire to dry!
Yep mocha is a chocolate coffee mix - the chocolate generates heat and contains energy while the coffee stimulates the brain and so as such (being hot too) is great for cold enviroments.
nestles even sell it in sachets so its even easier to make/carry!
Abbe Osram
21-11-2004, 17:06
Coffee...then Black tea. Never with sugar!
But, is it just me, or is instant coffee much nicer than the real deal? :yikes: I have found no-one who agrees!
Does milk taste funny out of flasks to anyone else?
No, here is one agreing with you, I like instant coffee more. When they started developing instant coffee it was much too bitter for me and I didn't like it. Today they are so good that I enjoy the instant coffee more. Its lighter too and easier to fix in the bush.
cheers
Abbe
:chill:
tenbears10
21-11-2004, 19:37
Abbe and Jake I will invite you to come to my house and have a proper cup of coffee. Instant is just rubbish in comparison to a decent espresso. I was in italy recently and every cafe had the best cappuccio and espresso you could hope for.
Bill
I like yerba mate, followed up by cocoa. I love the smell of coffee but cant stand the taste.What in the Sam Hill is Yerba(allways wanted to say that),but really what is it, ive never heard of it.
bothyman
21-11-2004, 20:23
How do you prepare and make your small tea, cocoa or coffee drinks when out and about?
I'll drink anything as long as its not small :wave:
Bill, hopefully you'll be at the meet-up and can show me th error of my ways!
:oops: :oops: I know i shouldn't say this...please find it in your hearts to forgive, but the best coffee i ever tasted was on the train back to Cardiff form London. Instant Kenco :oops :oops:
:rolmao:
Glad i'm not alone!
hobbitboy
21-11-2004, 23:25
But, is it just me, or is instant coffee much nicer than the real deal?
Heretic!!!! NO! NO! and one more NO! Instant coffee is sucha poor substitute! Drink Carte Noir "in the field" as it were due to ease, although waking up to fresh real coffee after a cold night is so fantastic!
Abbe Osram
21-11-2004, 23:40
Abbe and Jake I will invite you to come to my house and have a proper cup of coffee. Instant is just rubbish in comparison to a decent espresso. I was in italy recently and every cafe had the best cappuccio and espresso you could hope for.
Bill
There you got me Bill I really forgot about espresso, I love that stuff but really hard to make in the forest. :wink: Anyhow I would love to come and have a cup of Java with you mate.
:pack:
Abbe
uh guys.. look (http://www.fieldandtrek.com/product.asp?cat_id=EQUICAMPCOO K&pf_id=22098&cid=TOVA6NONUZBPLU811WINNLQYL0 GILNB1)
illy for me Bill whats you preference? :wave:
BIG-TARGET
22-11-2004, 00:02
Well, if you have that swedish mess kit, like Viking's, hot soups and drinks on the trail should be braindead easy!! :biggthump
Nightfall
22-11-2004, 00:29
Hi clem. Yerba mate is a herb from South America. The Gouchos [sp] drink it like coffee. My favort has a choclate flavor. It has a good amount of caffein and antioxidans. One real good thing about it is that it dont need hot water to brew. You can just drop it into a water bottel and it seeps.
has any one had the yannow(sp) made from acorns i think get it in helth food shops its like instant coffee
has any one had the yannow(sp) made from acorns i think get it in helth food shops its like instant coffee
Nope, I've tried the dandelion root coffee substitute though, that's not bad and that was available at Holland & Barrett :wink:
Moonraker
22-11-2004, 02:17
Abbe and Jake I will invite you to come to my house and have a proper cup of coffee. Instant is just rubbish in comparison to a decent espresso. I was in italy recently and every cafe had the best cappuccio and espresso you could hope for.
Bill
Totally agree Bill. Heathens :nana: After a meal there is nothing better. Or for breakfast with some nice pastries in the local bar :-). In France is not an option to drink anything else :wink: (well like every country people do drink it at home now but if you served it in a bar or restaurant you would be hung from the nearest tree :-).
I understand the practicalities of teabags and instant but really the moral boost you get from the smell and taste of real coffee and tea has to be a big plus. Like the smell of frying bacon for me :wink:
I have a couple of options you may want to try out for this which I will post tomorrow.
Also don't forget picking your own tisane (infusion of e.g. dried or fresh flowers or leaves). I pick them and dry them at home then take them out for convenience but you can get some great flavours outdoors fresh. My favourite and a real common option in North Africa, Turkey etc is mint tea. Just pick some nice watermint (or any other kind but checking toxicity etc), shred it up, add some sugar (usually brought very sweet) and add to a mug. Add 'boiling water' and drink very hot. Very refreshing in hot weather I find and why it is drunk in these regions.
A lot of people from the village pick bunches of Lime flowers in the summer for this. Helps a lot of things apparently and helps you sleep :-)
Gary, do you mix your own Mocha or use packet stuff? Would you not get the same energy just from adding more sugar to coffee or tea?
Also is there a potential problem drinking tea/ coffee brews in that they are both diuretics and make you pee and so requiring more water to be carried?
Hi clem. Yerba mate is a herb from South America. The Gouchos [sp] drink it like coffee. My favort has a choclate flavor. It has a good amount of caffein and antioxidans. One real good thing about it is that it dont need hot water to brew. You can just drop it into a water bottel and it seeps.Thanks for explaining mate,as i said i had never heard of it before.As it happens i drink allmost everything except tea and coffee,mostly water and good beer.I have to admit i have often kind of felt that i miss out when you tea and coffee drinkers get a brew on,ive just never took to the taste.I will keep an eye out for both the yerba that you mentioned and the mocha mentioned by Gary. :wink:
I tend to find that any hot drink is always satisfying when outside!
I tend to like tea and coffee equally - and if I'm camping anywhere for a while i tend to take my storm kettle along - vast quantities of hot water very easily!
For coffee, I use one of the espresso pot things that you can get in cookery shops etc - they're quite cheap (usually about 10 quid), and designed to be used on a gas/electric hob, and so work fine as long as you keep the handle out of the flames, without needing to buy an equivalent device marked as a 'special outdoors espresso pot' from a camping shop. For an example, see:
Stove-top one person espresso pot (http://www.tea-and-coffee-emporium.co.uk/access_stovetop_espresso_pots. htm)
The other good thing is that you can keep using this when you're at home to make high-quality coffee in the same time it takes to make instant!
As well as tea/coffee, I often like to make use of whatever is nearby for refreshing drinks - elderflower, mint, yarrow, lemon balm, angelica and thyme are all wild plants which I have found and made teas from while camping - I'm sure there are more I've forgotten.
I guess the only recommendation I would make is to learn to like your drinks without milk or sugar - as these are the most difficult things to find when you're in the middle of nowhere!
Nightfall
22-11-2004, 15:23
Dont forget pine needle tea. Take a handful of needles and seep in hot but not boiling water. Full of vitamen C.
NickBristol
22-11-2004, 15:30
Another vote for Mocha here :wave: Cant beat it on a cold or wet day... which covers most days in the UK :cry: Also, crumbling a biscuit into the sludgy coffee / chocky bit at the bottom of the cup makes a nice little snack :wink:
Have never got on with tea in the field for some reason. Always tastes like boiled pond water to me.
As for coffee, I use coffee bags from Lyons. Each bag is foil sealed to prevent it being spoiled by water ingressing into your kit. It tastes like proper filter coffee, especially good if you use condensed milk (from a squeezy tube, about 80p from the supermarket) to whiten and sweeten it. Plus if you dry out the bag afterwards it'll burn for ages as a tinder as it's twice the size of a teabag :wink:
If camp is set up - mulled cider.
Keith_Beef
23-11-2004, 14:04
What in the Sam Hill is Yerba(allways wanted to say that),but really what is it, ive never heard of it.
Yerba Mate is dried and crumbled leaves of ilex paraguayensis , a South American cousin of our Holly. You put it into a mug (or into a wooden mug called a "bombilla"), pour on boiling water, and leave it to steep. You can add milk and sugar, if you like. Instead of straining it, you drink it through a thing called a "pipa", like a metal tube with a ball-shaped strainer on the end.
It's a very popular drink in Argentina and Central/Southern Chile (where my bombilla and pipa came from).
Keith.
Dont forget pine needle tea. Take a handful of needles and seep in hot but not boiling water. Full of vitamen C.
Have you gotta be careful with that? Are all pine's cool? Or are there any poisonous similiar ones?
Nightfall
23-11-2004, 14:35
Any pine can be used. I never gather any needles near roads or anything like that now.Always look for the cleanest needles. I was taught to use the whole needle but have read to chop the needles up fine when seeping them. I also always use the conifers that have long needles if you know what I mean.
tenbears10
23-11-2004, 15:22
Abbe: let me know if you are over here for that Java.
Tom: I've got one of the espresso makers you linked to.
Match: those make a bit more coffee than tom's one. They are good for home, as good as some much more expensive machines IMO.
Bill
Match: those make a bit more coffee than tom's one. They are good for home, as good as some much more expensive machines IMO.
Bill
I've been quite lucky in that I've managed to get hold of a very small one, from a charity shop no less, for a few pounds. The one I've got makes a small mugful of espresso strength coffee, which is a good amount for me - but then I do like my coffee strong :-)
The other advantage of this style of pot for outdoor use is that they are very resilient - a friend of mine has had his for over 10 years, and has been backpacking and camping round most of Europe, and it still works. His does have a metal handle though, which means you can worry less about where you chuck it in the fire!
Abbe Osram
23-11-2004, 15:42
Have you gotta be careful with that? Are all pine's cool? Or are there any poisonous similiar ones?
hi mate,
the SAS survival handbook says that the buds and shoots of the Tamarack and Hemlock are Poisonous.
cheers
Abbe
:pack:
Abbe Osram
23-11-2004, 15:44
Abbe: let me know if you are over here for that Java.
Tom: I've got one of the espresso makers you linked to.
Match: those make a bit more coffee than tom's one. They are good for home, as good as some much more expensive machines IMO.
Bill
tenbears10; thanks for the invitation sure I will visit you when I am in the neighborhood.
:chill: ABBE
Pear and Guava herbal tea and spiced cider is a wonderful combination.
Nightfall
23-11-2004, 16:12
Should have said that the only needles that I'd use is from trees of the Pinus species.
Very fond of lime tea - as in tea made like lemon tea but with lime juice instead - brilliant thirst quencher and I can drink gallons of it.
Mind you in the evening I'm fond of a dram or two of decent whisky or a coffee with a decent measure of rum in it;)
George
Cheers. Does it taste nice at all? Or is it like one of those herbal teas?!
(i have found that green tea tastes nice with a bit of sugar, do you reckon pine needle tea is the same?)
Jake
Nightfall
23-11-2004, 17:30
Hi Jake, I like it.It is like any other tea to me.Depending on how long one seeps the needles.I imange the amount of water will also affect the strenght of the taste.
Tried it with sugar? Out in the Bush, Roibos is nice with sugar. that was what we drank along the kalahari.
Nightfall
23-11-2004, 17:34
I guess I should adress the taste.It dont taste like green tea to me.To me it tastes the way it smells, like pine.Its a light taste if that is any help.
Nightfall
23-11-2004, 17:37
I have taken Roibos before. Its is good, they sell it here as red tea.
I was in the Wolfberg cracks a few years ago. This place grew the most amount of Roibos than any other place in the world. And it was in the middle, of the middle of no-where! They also sold something called Honeybush tea. You tried that? Very sweet and very nice. Completely different from any other tea i have tasted. I haven't seen it in the UK for somereason :?: id think it would be very successful!
I'm the same as you theviking when it comes to drinks and preparing them, I nevr ever drink coffee though as I hate it.
TheViking
23-11-2004, 19:10
I'm the same as you theviking when it comes to drinks and preparing them, I nevr ever drink coffee though as I hate it.
Yeah, us youngsters don't like coffee, much better with cocoa. :pack:
BIG-TARGET
23-11-2004, 19:12
If it wsasn't for the faxct they haven't made a remotely decent dehydrated version,you know what would be perfect in the wood(especially the Pine Barrens) this time of year?????
Hot cider,,,,,with a cinnimon stick :teeth:
arctic hobo
23-11-2004, 19:47
I'm a coffee addict. I always have black, triple recommended strength. Love it. Milk :roll: and sugar :nono: are a no go. I like a nip of Limoncello in it too - a bit posh I know, but since I first tasted it in Italy I've gone through gallons. Wonderful, like rum, but 30% and sweet - mmmm.
First person to make a coffee maker out of bushcraft materials gets a prize!
(er, can someone donate a prize please?)
I find that tea tastes a bit insipid when you're out and about. I prefer cordials, hot choc or instant lemon tea mix.
The pine needle tea sounds nice too. I love retsina and wonder if it has some of that same refreshing taste to it.
Since working in France and Italy, coffee isn't coffee unless it's a proper espresso (or a cappucino at breakfast). Instant's just naff.
Limoncello is wonderful stuff, but i've never tried it in coffee. I've only ever been given it in Italy as a digestif at the end of a meal - served staight from the freezer at -20C. Same as I like my vodka and akkavit :biggthump.
The most surprising tipple I was ever offered from a hp flask was cherry brandy. One of my own favorites is calvados. Ahh...
:lol: I have to say that the only thing that keeps me going in the mornings is the 6th form coffee machine! You'd all be disgusted! But i like it :wink: :rolmao:
I know what you mean about tea being insipid when outdoors Alick.
Nightfall
23-11-2004, 21:49
I had Goldenrod (Solidago sp.) as a tea when I was out in Arizona. It is supost to grow out where I live but havent found it yet. That made a real good tea. I usually dont use sugar in my teas. Usually dont carry sugar with me. I am going to have to throw some brown sugar in with me next time.
Carcajou Garou
24-11-2004, 22:36
In the bush revert to tea almost exclusively, easy to carry, prepare and traditional taste.
just a thought
I find tea tastes a bit harsh black...thats why i like a pnich of sugar, but not with milk and sugar either or im afraid :wink: .
Incidentally, my newest thread "Cederberg Family" the family that we stayed with in that story live near the wolfberg cracks, as featured higher in this thread, the biggest roibos growers. Coinicendence!
BIG-TARGET
25-11-2004, 10:48
I find tea tastes a bit harsh black...thats why i like a pnich of sugar, but not with milk and sugar either or im afraid :wink: .
Incidentally, my newest thread "Cederberg Family" the family that we stayed with in that story live near the wolfberg cracks, as featured higher in this thread, the biggest roibos growers. Coinicendence!
This may be considered"blasphemy" in the UK, but I think sweet-n-low tastes better in tea.
With a couple of squeezes of lemon.
I hope that redeamed me?? :lol:
Peppermint or Blackcurrant herbal teas. Or steaming hot, brown 'naafi style' tea (sludge) with sugar - good for morale
Peppermint is good for keeping your stomach settled & helps your digestion.
Blackcurrant is great in the mornings - a little sugar and it may become like hot ribena.
Found coffee can be a bit disagreeable - apologies to the 'bean-freaks' out there
At home it's always Glengette and a dash of milk, sugar is blasphemy if you have milk at hand! :wink: And i don't drink those posh teas like Earl grey (smells like aftershave) and lapsang souchong :rolmao:
Out and about one has fewer choices! All drunk in a swedish foldable cup, those things are awesome!
As i mentioned before in this thread i do not drink hot drinks,just never took to the taste of tea or coffee,as i said ive allways kind of felt like i was missing out when you tea/coffee drinkers get a brew on.Gary mentioned Mocha and Keith Beef mentioned yerba.Where do i get these from,is it just regular supermarket type stuff? Then i can join in with the get a brew on ceremony type thang.
It's like me with white wine! It makes me feel ill, sickly sweet.
There are endless amounts of types of brew clem. Try roibos with sugar, a real nice drink. You can get roibos from most supermarkets. Or just hot water, thats nice on a cold day too...
gurthang
25-11-2004, 20:10
has any one had the yannow(sp) made from acorns i think get it in helth food shops its like instant coffee
I've had yannow before it tastes great but I've never taken out on camp with me I gennerally just take hot chocolate or herbal tea
Whats the most exotic brew you can buy?
It's like me with white wine! It makes me feel ill, sickly sweet.
There are endless amounts of types of brew clem. Try roibos with sugar, a real nice drink. You can get roibos from most supermarkets. Or just hot water, thats nice on a cold day too...I shall be sure to check that out Jake,tar :biggthump
Couldn't have you not enjoying it to the full! :biggthump
Couldn't have you not enjoying it to the full! :biggthump :biggthump
arctic hobo
25-11-2004, 22:24
Limoncello is wonderful stuff, but i've never tried it in coffee. I've only ever been given it in Italy as a digestif at the end of a meal - served staight from the freezer at -20C. Same as I like my vodka and akkavit :biggthump.
You don't know what you're missing... Try it! :biggthump
Well I'll have to now :biggthump Anyone know where you can get the stuff (limoncello) over here ? Last place I bought a bottle was Utrecht !
Ta.
What else goes well with coffee? (alcoholic i mean).
my ex used to drink what she called "wobbily" coffee which had tia mareia(sp) and cream in it.. was pretty yuck in my opinion.. but you might want to try it
Anyone tried a spoonful of instant coffee in beans ... really livens up the bangers and beans ration pack!
What else goes well with coffee? (alcoholic i mean).
A quick shot of Jack Daniels warms the cockles a treat. :uu:
Cheers,
Martin
What else goes well with coffee? (alcoholic i mean).
does a hang over count :o):
Hangovers don't count! Im never drinking again! after this evening. :wink:
Martin, im guessing you don't put milk in that!
Nightfall
26-11-2004, 15:58
Balieys (sp) Irish cream would go good with coffee.
Martin, im guessing you don't put milk in that!
Good point. Nope, no milk and preferably strong "Real" coffee with a smidge of sugar if you like. :yumyum:
Cheers,
Martin
Abbe Osram
26-11-2004, 16:18
Hi my english friends!
When I was in Cornwell I enjoyed a wonderfull drink called clotted cream tea,
does anyone know how to do it right. I tried to fix myself such tea but to no avail it always turns into an ugly mess.
cheers
Abbe
:chill:
do you mean cream teas? i think not..
what did this clotted cream tea consist of?
Abbe Osram
26-11-2004, 16:35
do you mean cream teas? i think not..
what did this clotted cream tea consist of?
its a special kind of cream tea but cornwall people should know, its not simply done by tea and cream. As the word says its very thick type of cream tea...clotted... taste great with apple pie.
cheers
Abbe
iv never heard of cream being put in tea.. clotted, double or otherwise.. sounds good though :naughty:
The clotted cream is usually put in the scone with jam, or so I thought, I would think clotted cream is too thick to use with tea. Google it and you come up with loads of recipes etc.
:oops: seems i got the wrong end of the stick again.. i thought Abbe was suggesting that the clotted cream was put in the tea.. i can give you a great scone recipe.. then all you need is clotted cream.. jam (preferably home made) and the (preferably Earl Grey :wink:)
arctic hobo
26-11-2004, 19:44
Well I'll have to now :biggthump Anyone know where you can get the stuff (limoncello) over here ? Last place I bought a bottle was Utrecht !
Ta.
I second that - it doesn't seem to exist in this country :?:
Abbe Osram
26-11-2004, 19:56
:oops: seems i got the wrong end of the stick again.. i thought Abbe was suggesting that the clotted cream was put in the tea.. i can give you a great scone recipe.. then all you need is clotted cream.. jam (preferably home made) and the (preferably Earl Grey :wink:)
No, No you understood me right. When I was in Cornwall I got a clotted cream tea and they put the cream into the cup, but here in sweden I don't find anything resample that kind of taste. Therefore I thought it must be something special.
cheers
Abbe
Hi my english friends!
And Welsh! :wink:
I would have thought it would just sink. Very thick stuff :approve:
Went out yesterday and got meself some of this Mocha stuff as recommended by Gary,now as i said iam not a coffee or tea drinker so i was expecting to spit this Mocha stuff out after the first sip.While i cannot say it was great and i only managed half a mug(maybe mocha/coffee is something i can learn to like)it was no where near as bad as all the other coffees i've tried.So i will endeavor to persevere and maybe i will grow to like it.Gonna try another mug in a sec or three. :wink:
Paganwolf
07-12-2004, 20:09
Im a bovril man myself,bovril cubes are nice to drink and you can whack em in your grub if its a bit bland.
Boullion (sp?) makes a nice warm drink too.
What else goes well with coffee? (alcoholic i mean).
Jameson Irish Whisky and lots of it.
Irish Whisky :nono:
scottland was only put there to make whiskey:oops: .. you cant deprive them of it! :wink:
BIG-TARGET
08-12-2004, 01:38
whiskey and bushcraft camping,,,,,,NOT good bed-fellows!!! :nono:
i know several people who would dissagree with you there.. alcohol might not mix so well with survival but bushcraft is about the fun too!! :wave:
but we are stumbling off topic here!!
arctic hobo
08-12-2004, 16:47
We might be, but it's Irish Whiskey, not Whisky. And it's better than Scottish! :uu:
A drop of fire water at the end of the day around a campfire is fun. However swinging an axe around after several pints is a quick way to bleed.
i like a nice mulled wine myself.
BIG-TARGET
08-12-2004, 23:05
i know several people who would dissagree with you there.. alcohol might not mix so well with survival but bushcraft is about the fun too!! :wave:
but we are stumbling off topic here!!
When you are right about bushcraft being fun too. But when you are bushcrafting, you are in a defacto survival mode.
But on your way home, when it's over, you want to stop by a pub for a dozen smoker wings and a pint.
Hey!!! Rock & Roll!!! :biggthump
Paganwolf
08-12-2004, 23:14
Whisky Mac out KNIFES AND SHARP THINGS away, booze and sharps dont mix, your 100% right, lucky we're a sensible and respectable and teatotal bunch eh :shock: a few dram's round the fire of an evening does seem to be most theraputic though, a bit like Didgeridoo playing :shock: :rolmao:
Whisky Mac out KNIFES AND SHARP THINGS away, booze and sharps dont mix, your 100% right, lucky we're a sensible and respectable and teatotal bunch eh :shock: a few dram's round the fire of an evening does seem to be most theraputic though, a bit like Didgeridoo playing :shock: :rolmao:Dunno about the Didgeridoo stuff but otherwise you right on the mark about everything else. :-)
BIG-TARGET
08-12-2004, 23:31
My point extactly(no pun intended) :You_Rock_