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I have just returned from wet and windy Scotland were I had a well deserved rest and where I had the chance to test out a few new bits of kit, fore most of which was the clikstand.
This is without a doubt one of the best peices of kit I have had the chance to play with in a long time, retailing at around £40 (I think) it isnt cheap but if you like the simplicety of the trangia you will ove these.
Made of a lightweight pressed steel the clikstand consists of a base, three sides and a flexiable windshield which will collapse into nothingness and easily fits inside the 12cm Zebra billy (it will tke a pot upto approx 14cm in diameter).
Before leaving home I check the base on both the military and civilian trangia and found it to fit both (although it is more suited to the civilian version) and in use I found it to bring a pint of water to the boil very rapidly and more importantly with maximum fuel efficiency.
I think this is a fantastic peice of kit and it is something I will definate use from now on and recommend.
Good points, lightweight, easily assembled and packed. No fussy breakable bits - I well designed, simple but effective peice of kit.
Bad points - stove is sold seperately, cost (while worth every penny) does seem a little high initially.
Overall I give this a big :biggthump
RovingArcher
20-11-2004, 15:45
Yeah, looks like a good piece of kit. Their site lists the trangia, screen and stand at just over $50.00US, so it's not a cheap addition in the eyes of my lovely wife. :roll: Someday maybe.
No RA - not cheap - but I think a definate value for money item.
Hi Gary this looks just what i have been looking for have you got the codes handy???? i have been looking at the one with just the whight stand or the mini kit but this looks much better with the shield thanks in advance.:wave: Mal
Great stuff gary, fab bit of kit innit - definitely a kepper in my kit bag.
But I have a question about how you have it set up. In your pic...
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...it looks like you have the stand sitting on top of the military? You can see the brass of the stove underneath the stand and the stand actually looks as if it's suspended off the ground.
Compare to my pics...
http://www.britishblades.com/pics/stove/stove009.jpg
and
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The brass of the commercial stove is not visible as it's suspended inside on the inner plate. I wonder if this contributed to your stability issue, as i found it quite stable? In fact I would say that was one of it's strongest features. The three corners of the stand should be in contact with the ground, giving a sort of tripod effect to the base, while the burner should be suspended off the ground by about 1cm or thereabouts.
RovingArcher
20-11-2004, 20:09
I agree Gary, definitely a worthy purchase and one that I hope to make sometime in the future. The daughter was driving the truck as most young drivers do and neglected to see the temperature guage banging on the high side because of a stuck thermastat and overheated my truck :nono: , which cracked the head :shock:, so gotta save up to get that fixed. :cry:
Kids ehhh - never mind RA i am sure these will be around for a long time to come.
Martyn your right - doh! I just checked out the clikstand sight too! :oops: ok now I'm embrassed! Still shows what a good and tough stand it is as it worked even for an idiot like me!!
Martyn, Did you stand come with instructions? This may be something that is lacking.
Having said that this is a good thing as now the stability issue is resolved it means that I can say the stand is spot on - and give it 10 out of 10. :super:
Martyn, Did you stand come with instructions? This may be something that is lacking.
Yeah, it came with 2 sheets of pictorial instructions - actually they are just the web page instructions, printed off and included with the package.
Glad you got it sorted. :biggthump
Phew, I thought I was losing brain cells. Mine was a trade sample and less instructions hence my error - but having said that and looking at it now I can see how daft I was.
Either way its still the dogs private parts!! :biggthump
This looks really good, how much does it weigh including burner?
Are you going to start selling these Gary?
The stand wieghs next to nothing Viking and the stove weighs whatever a trangia weighs.
As for the answer to the rest of your question ...... :wink:
Hi, Gary it looks great, but $55 is to much for me, why you don´t try to DIY.
I show you my last DIY cooking set :chill: .
Cost:
-MSR titanium 750ml (Pot+ lib)= I have forgotten the price :lol: high.
-Wind screen made of aluminium hammered cupper finish sheet=4 eu (I decided to use this becouse hammered surface gives antique looking and locks sheet when closed, even you can use the wind screen as a pot stand with out the titanium stack if your pot is big enought.
-Titanium stack=0, came with my Tarptent :lol:
-Insolated plataform=0.5 eu (it´s made with insolated heater sheet)
-Trangia burner=10 eu (I made my DIY pepsi can burner, but I decided to buy Trangia heavier but stonger, in case you put your feet on :naughty: )
Total cost= 4.5 eu (wind screen+insolated plate)
Weights:
-Pot+lib=110 grs
-Wind screen=35grs
-Insolated plate=10grs
-Trangia burner=66grs (without simmer ring and lib)
-Titanium stack=0 grs (take from my tarptent when cooking)
Total cooking set weight=221 grs+*
Methanol=1ml=0.86 grs
My burner top is 2.5 mm from the botton pot, with this set up:
-It boil 750ml in 10 minutes with 35 ml of alcohol and go 5 more minutes till off.
I have tried differents heigths and the higher the faster boil time and the faster off.
I decided that for me is more important to put the wind screen into the pot so 25mm distant between burn and pot is ok and fuel efficient.
You have space to put into the pot everything and add a foldable plastic cup.
I´m looking for some plastic container to fill with alcohol and put into, no easy becouse the pot height is not as high as Swess cooking kit.
enjoy.
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Nice one Orlando - my old lightweight kit was three metal tent pegs (as the pot stand) and a folding windshield this worked well although wasnt quiet as good as the mess kit. :You_Rock_
Nice setup faca!
I'm beginning to think that this might be a job for a sheet of titanium because it has low thermal conductivity and will (theoretically) keep the heat in.
Hi, titanium sheet aaaah, where to find it?
enjoy
Hi, titanium sheet aaaah, where to find it?
enjoy
Maybe you could PM someone that uses it in their job. An aircraft engineer perhaps?
Ahem!!! :rolleyes: :naughty: :rolleyes:
Paganwolf
23-11-2004, 20:05
I just bought one from the bearclaw site,it does look a good bit of kit cant wait to test it out :biggthump
mojofilter
23-11-2004, 20:09
I dont see it on the site :?:
I just bought one from the bearclaw site,it does look a good bit of kit cant wait to test it out :biggthump
I'm pretty darned sure you'll love it PW. I really do think this is one of the best bits of kit I've bought in a long time. If I lost it, or damaged it (doubtful) I'd replace it with an identical one immediately. If you're already a fan of the trangia stove, this kit opens up a whole new world. Apart from being ultra-light and exceptionally strong, you can use it with almost any pot, or mix 'n match to suit your needs. Brill. :biggthump
Paganwolf
23-11-2004, 20:56
cool ta !! :wink:
Paganwolf
23-11-2004, 20:59
I dont see it on the site :?:
Go to Trading post then Cookware :biggthump
SquirrelBoy
23-11-2004, 21:13
I just bought one from the bearclaw site,it does look a good bit of kit cant wait to test it out :biggthump
These look smashing bits of kit and dare I say it could even replace the Swedish mess kit ive got cos of it being lighter and more versatile etc.. but i`ll still be able to use the trangia burner from it :naughty:
Looks like Bearclaw will be busy sorting me out a few bits for christmass then :biggthump
rapidboy
23-11-2004, 21:37
Looks like a nice bit of kit but i have two concerns.
1.Dosen't look like you can light it inside a tent (on a ground sheet) as the base will heat up like a military trangia ,the cicy version has the burner off the ground which means you can light them on almost any surface.
2.The civy trangia offers better protection from the wind with it's built in wind shield which reduces boil time and fuel consumption.
I like the idea of using a stainless billy instead if the trangia alu pots so it can be used over a fire.
Can titanium be used over an open fire like stainless?
rb
Rapid, the trangia is actually off the ground when put into the stand so there is ground clearance (ignore the picture I put up I had it put together wrong) and the windshield which wraps around it (according to manufacturers tests) out preforms even the standard Trangia.
I am sure once a few people have had time to play with them you will see nothing but positive feed back.
Lastly I would warn against using ANY stove in a tent with a ground sheet or not unless fully eventilated - the risk of carbon monoxide or worse just isnt worth it.
rapidboy
23-11-2004, 21:55
Rapid, the trangia is actually off the ground when put into the stand so there is ground clearance (ignore the picture I put up I had it put together wrong) and the windshield which wraps around it (according to manufacturers tests) out preforms even the standard Trangia.
I am sure once a few people have had time to play with them you will see nothing but positive feed back.
Lastly I would warn against using ANY stove in a tent with a ground sheet or not unless fully eventilated - the risk of carbon monoxide or worse just isnt worth it.
I've used trangia's for years in car's ,tents ,boats ,front seat of the landy (but always with ventilation :wink: ) that's why im interested to know if the base heats up enough to cause damage.
I see the wind shield (i was looking at Martyns pic without it on) and it looks like it would protect a trangia pot but the billy is still quite exposed.
Any chance of someone doing a boil comparison with one of these against a standard trangia and a military trangia?
The problem with standard trangias is the aluminium is really "dirty" compared to stainless.
I can scrub my stainless pots with a scourer and they are spotless but the trangia pots get really slimey and horrible and are harder to clean especially when your out.
rb
Fair enough mate - had to mention the safety aspects though!!
Martyn did you do a speed test?
BIG-TARGET
24-11-2004, 02:06
This can be done with a coffee can. :biggthump
Moonraker
24-11-2004, 02:59
Gary, nice review and pretty photo too :-)
There is also a very good review on the ClikStand at:
BackPackGearTest - Clikstand Field Report (http://www.backpackgeartest.org/reviews/Cook%20Gear/Cook%20Sets/Clikstand%20Universal%20Stove% 20System/Mara%20Factor/Field%20Report/)
The reviewer gives some detailed boiling times with various heat sources including the Trangia and an MSR windshield. There are also two other reviews on the same site (just click the 'Clikstand Universal Stove System' path link at the top of the page)
All very favourable.
Another good site with detailed comparisons with other lightweight alcohol stoves and boiling times etc is here:
Review: Lightweight Alcohol Stoves for Backpacking (http://art.simon.tripod.com/Stoves/)
Again it is rated highly.
Here is a direct link to the Clickstand web site here which has lots of photos of it erected, folded down etc:
Clikstand (http://www.clikstand.com/)
Looks an excellent piece of kit :biggthump
Any suggestions on the most suitable pot to go with this? I know that Clikstand sent out Evernew Ti .9 litre pots ( non stick) for those reviews and it is used on the other site also but with plastic coated handles not sure how useful that is for bushcraft? unless it is solely for use with this set up. I guess the windscreen limits the options.
MR pots wise I believe Martyn used a Zebra billy can while I myself used an old improvished billy (biscuit tin) but any cooking pot up to a 14cm diameter will work with the windshield in place and without it the stand can take any size pot. (according to the literature)
Fair enough mate - had to mention the safety aspects though!!
Martyn did you do a speed test?
No I didn't mate. I've taken it out once to a little spot I like locally, just for making a brew, so havent really thrashed it. It was quite a calm afternoon too, so didnt really put the windshield to the test either, but it seemed to boil just fine. Not very scientific, I know. Sorry. :?:
I suppose I could do a test against the Swedish kit, the genuine trangia and the clickstand, but to be honest, I never felt the need. It boils fine.
Any suggestions on the most suitable pot to go with this? I know that Clikstand sent out Evernew Ti .9 litre pots ( non stick) for those reviews and it is used on the other site also but with plastic coated handles not sure how useful that is for bushcraft? unless it is solely for use with this set up. I guess the windscreen limits the options.
You can chop and change the pots depending on your needs and circumstances. I have it set up with a 12cm zebra billy and it works nice. It likes 14cm pots though, but the 14cm zebra is a bit big 'n heavy for my needs. I was looking at the Vango 1 man cookset (http://www.worldofcamping.co.uk/shop/Detail.asp?Mfg=17&ProductID=628) which looks like it's work well as a stainless steel option. The pots from the original trangia 27 work well too. If you wanted ultralight, there's various Ti options too. Or do like Gary and make your own billy from an old coffe can or something. Whatever.
But why I rate it so highly for bushcrafters, is because you can use it with your favourite billy. Untill this stand came out, if you wanted to use a billy and also have a little stove as well, you either had to get an (aluminium) swedish mess kit or take a billy and another stove of some sort - or make your own pot stand and windshield for your billy. But this is a really effective, pro solution for using a trangia burner with a stainless steel billy.
I will predict that once a few people get thier hands on these, you'll see a clickstand rated up there with a woodlore knife, aussie basha, thermarest, and grannyB. Brill kit. :biggthump
The only negative I could think of, was that using the simmer ring is awkward. You have to adjust the simmer ring first, then do a nifty hoopla throw to get it on the stove, adjusting the position and correcting a poor throw with a stick is often necessary - no great shakes and it's all do-able. Though in practice, I dont really use the simmer ring all that much. More often than not, I just want a fst boil for a brew. It can also be awkward to light with a lighter, I found that using a firesteel to throw sparks down the chimney was by far the best way of lighting the stove.
Did I say this is a brill bit of kit? Just in case I didn't - Brill kit. :biggthump
Nice setup faca!
I'm beginning to think that this might be a job for a sheet of titanium because it has low thermal conductivity and will (theoretically) keep the heat in.
I have seen several note the low thermal conductivity of Ti. It makes me question the validity of using Ti for cooking pots. Thoughts?
Tom
Titanium is used on Aircraft in areas exposed to very high temperature i.e. Engine exhaust cones and and brake linkages.
It is also very light and rigid which is the main reason it has been adopted by the mountaineering fraternity. As far as everything else goes, I think it is because it is fashionable and manufacturers can justify their inflated prices.
Martin
Moonraker
24-11-2004, 18:52
Thanks for the advice guys :biggthump
Hi,
TI does have a low thermal conductivity. Which on first imprssions would make it a poor choice for a cooking pot.
However it's also as tough as old boots which means you can produce a pot with an incredibly thin wall section and end up with a really ridged pot.
The thinner wall section then negates the fact that TI is a poor conductor because there is less material between the heat source and the contents of the pot.
Also because it's thinner its a lot lighter than say stainless steel. It also doesn't corrode or taint the contents and is extremely heat and corrosion resistant.
The US outdoor scene is going through a renassiance at the moment with ultra lightweight gear partly (this includes the clikstand) inspired by Ray Jardines book www.rayjardine.com and TI pots fit the bill.
If you want a really good pot without the cost of TI then check out the hard anodised products from several different manufactures (MSR's Black lite range as well as products from GSI) these are basically regular aluminium pots ( with Aluminiums excellent conductivity) but with a hard anodised coating which for the most part does away with problems like metallic taste in the food and difficulty in cleaning.
The Anodised coating lasts and lasts.
I have a set of GSI's pots and have used them on: Petrol stoves, Gas stoves and open fire and they shrug them all off.
TI is an expensive commodity and is difficult to machine so I dont think that TI pots will come down in price.
Cheers
John
SquirrelBoy
26-11-2004, 22:30
Could I ask someone who has one of these - to tell me the height from the top of the three pot rests to the top of the wind shield.
The resaon I ask is the billy im thinking of using is 14cm round but has hanger brackets on the side and its not a very high sided pot - anything higher than 5cm and they might get in the way.
Thank you.
Could I ask someone who has one of these - to tell me the height from the top of the three pot rests to the top of the wind shield.
No problem. It's 29mm according to my verniers, which agrees with my eyeball which gets it at an inch and a bit. ;) :D
SquirrelBoy
27-11-2004, 11:48
No problem. It's 29mm according to my verniers, which agrees with my eyeball which gets it at an inch and a bit. ;) :D
Damn - It fits !! You know im gonna have to buy one now Martyn... :rolmao:
Cheers mate :biggthump
I'm always interested in trying out new gear but I haven't quite figured out how this is an improvement over the trangia stand that came with my stove? I made several windscreens from aluminum flashing at a cost of probably 50 cents a whack and have always had amazing results from this setup. I can make a windscreen that will be as high as I want and weighs nearly nothing. I cut slots in the windscreens for handles, which allows me to make very tall windscreens for any pot I want. The stand is small and stores flat and is very stable.
So convince me that I should get this new setup. It looks really super and I would love to have one but I have to rationalize it. :rolmao:
This is the setup I've used for years now with great success.
http://www4.gvsu.edu/triert/images8/trangia1b.jpg
http://www4.gvsu.edu/triert/images8/trangia2b.jpg
beachlover
27-11-2004, 17:48
Hoodoo. You must be well upset with yourself not to have marketed your version first!
Instead all of us lazies are going to waste almost £40 buying someone elses, as indeed I did from Jack's outfit at Woodland (great service and delivery again, special thanks to jamie). That said, it is a great piece of kit I think and having got it today and tried it out in the wind, I am impressed enough to have already flogged my old trangia set and if anyone wants a swedish army trangia for the postage have a look in the classifieds or PM me.
I am seriously taken by the clickstand and have already steamed rice in the bigger zebra billy, just a shame the 10cm is just a mite to small for the clickstand.
I'm always interested in trying out new gear but I haven't quite figured out how this is an improvement over the trangia stand that came with my stove?
Well iot's a lot lighter than the trangia stand. The stand you have pictured is the westwinds stand, not trangia. To be honest, if you've already got that kit I dont think I'd bother with the clickstand. There are reasons why the clickstand is better, just not £40 worth of them if you already have a westwinds and a suitable windshield.
Its a very neat and cool looking bit of kit but can someone tell me why its better than three alu tent pegs pushed into the ground and a foil windshield if you wanna go ultralight?
Or indeed Hoodoo's setup which would be dead easy to make yourself.
I was put off Trangias years ago by their weight, ultra slow cooking speed, the stink of meths, lack of control and tbh I havent used one properly for 10+ years so pardon me if this is a stoopid question and Im missing sth obvious!
Jason
Hi,
As far as I can see it the Clikstand is a product of a maturing Ultra-lightweight movement in the US.
A good hunt around on the web will produce hundreds of variations of Pepsi can stoves, foil windshields, tent peg and coat hanger potstands, esbit burners, meths burners.
So while Ray Jardine enthused people to make their own gear in his book Beyond Backpacking some did but a lot didn't hence the birth of companies such as Golite and the adoption of ultralightweight products into mainstream manufacture ( the new ultra light thermarests for example).
So people want ultralight gear but dont want to make it themselves. That's where the clikstand the brasslight and the triad stoves fit in. An ultra lightstove for consumers who are a bit beyond epoxing two pepsi cans together and want to buy a quality product.
Meths ( or esbit) is the fuel of choice because it doesn't need to be pressurised to burn efficently or safely ( like gasoline) and it's obtainable in lots of different forms, and from a green angle is from a renewable source (corn). For me speed of cooking with meths has never been a problem. My home made pepsi stove (which is just a pan type no fancy holes) boils a ltr of water in 12 minutes or 250 ml in 3.5 mins. If my life depended on a hot drink while I clung to my Ice axes on the slopes of K2 then that would be a problem and I'd probably opt for a gas canister stove. But I spend most of my time in the woods or on the hills where 12 minutes is ok of a ltr of water and I'm there because I want a different pace of life.
What I like so much about the Clikstand is it takes the proven burner from the trangia and puts it in a well designed durable stand and wind shield. Which has a low pack size and low weight. If you like meths fueled stoves that's a win win situation.
My clikstand is on it's way from the US and I'm really looking forward to using it.
Cheers
John
Interesting. My Trangia came with that stand. I didn't realize it was made by someone else. I have indeed made a copy of it and use it with my homemade tuna can stove. While the Trangia catches on its rim in the westwind base, I had to drill some cross holes in the bottom of my homemade version and insert some aluminum rods to hold my tuna can stove. I'll try to get a pic up later on.
As for putting pegs in the ground. That might not work well if you happen to be camping on solid rock, along a rocky shore, or where there is snow on the ground. Generally though, sounds like a good idea.
Never owned a westwind stand but the clikstand site states that the Clikstand out proforms the westwind in every test - if the westwind is good hoodoo I guess that means the clikstand is brilliant!
Never owned a westwind stand but the clikstand site states that the Clikstand out proforms the westwind in every test - if the westwind is good hoodoo I guess that means the clikstand is brilliant!
One of the main differences I can see, is how the clickstand controls the airflow. I knocked up this diagram....
http://www.britishblades.com/pics/windflow.gif
see...
http://www.britishblades.com/pics/stove/stove009.jpg http://www.clikstand.com/tri%20wall%20assembly%20ss%202 33.gif
I mimicks how the full size trangia windshield/stand controls airflow, ...that's the thing that makes the full size trangia so good. Take away the windshield and the trangia burner itself is mediocre in blustery conditions.
I'm not sure this makes a huuuuuuge difference, and if you already have a westwinds and a homebrew windshield, you may find little overall benefit. But it's well thought out, ultralight, compact, sturdy and pro construction - fab kit, no doubt.
According to the manufacturers website "Performance of the Clikstand will far exceed that of the Westwind stove under all condtions (http://www.clikstand.com/specs.html)".
Well iam convinced and iam going to get one.
I am seriously taken by the clickstand and have already steamed rice in the bigger zebra billy, just a shame the 10cm is just a mite to small for the clickstand.
Yes it is a shame, a limitation of the design of the feet the pots stand on means that much smaller than about 11cm and the pot will fall in the middle. Ideally, pot diamerters should be 12 - 14cm, which gives a suprisingly large choice. I bet the feet could be modified though, to take smaller pots. I wonder if it's worth mentioning to Scott Reiner?
RovingArcher
28-11-2004, 01:06
Hmm, I was planning on matching the Clickstand up with the MSR titan kettle, which has a 4.5" base. Should work and pack together well, dont you think?
Hmm, I was planning on matching the Clickstand up with the MSR titan kettle, which has a 4.5" base. Should work and pack together well, dont you think?
I think so RA, but cant be sure - it converts to 11.43 cm, which I think will fit OK. The only problem I can see, it that you may have to take care that the pot is well centered on the stand, but again, I cant be sure - it might be a little precarious. Does it have much of a rounded base? It'd be better if the walls met the base at a pretty square angle.
For a pot smaller than 11cm I use an old tent peg laid across the stand to act as a support (works great with crusader cups) - seems to work ok.
Nice diagram Martyn - NASA would be proud.
RovingArcher
28-11-2004, 03:05
Martyn, thanks for the response. Here's a link to the MSR kettle (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5141857315&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT) on ebay.
I was a little concerned about how it would set on the stand, but I'm thinking that it will be ok. From the looks of the kettle used on the Clickstand site, I'm thinking that the Clickstand will pack neatly into the kettle along with the trangia and maybe have enough room for the makings. Maybe. :wink:
Thats the idea RA - mine all fits nicely into a 12cm billy along with brew kit, spices, tea towel, matches, scourer, folding cup and a spoon. Making it a nice compact kit which is easily stowed.
Moonraker
28-11-2004, 04:04
If you read the review site I posted earlier from the stove nut guy I posted before, you will see he says the Clickstand is certainly better than any westwind type stand.
http://art.simon.tripod.com/Stoves/
The reason the Quickstand is worth the extra money is better design and better performance than the Westwind style. You need another reason to buy it? :-) Granted anyone can make a wind shield and stand but this is very well thought out ( see the design and construction) and most importantly, works well in the field where other stands and shields do not.
Great illustration BTW Martyn :biggthump
Nice diagram Martyn - NASA would be proud.
Ta. I did it for part of me big clickstand review (If i ever get round to it), but it seemed appropriate to p[ost it here. ;)
SquirrelBoy
28-11-2004, 10:47
I think so RA, but cant be sure - it converts to 11.43 cm, which I think will fit OK. The only problem I can see, it that you may have to take care that the pot is well centered on the stand, but again, I cant be sure - it might be a little precarious. Does it have much of a rounded base? It'd be better if the walls met the base at a pretty square angle.
Wonder if the three pot stands could be open to a little bending in to enable smaller diameter pots to be used?? They seem to have round `corners` at the bottom where it meets the `main body` of the stand - am guessing it wont crack the steel as a sharp corner could... :?:
Wonder if the three pot stands could be open to a little bending in to enable smaller diameter pots to be used?? They seem to have round `corners` at the bottom where it meets the `main body` of the stand - am guessing it wont crack the steel as a sharp corner could... :?:
I was looking at tyhose round corners last night and thought they would be ideal to hold 3 pieces of coathanger layed accross the top.
SquirrelBoy
28-11-2004, 13:57
I was looking at tyhose round corners last night and thought they would be ideal to hold 3 pieces of coathanger layed accross the top.
Or one piece of coathanger bent into shape - less kit to loose then? Interesting....
beachlover
28-11-2004, 15:30
Or one piece of coathanger bent into shape - less kit to loose then? Interesting....
Just done it!
It works a treat and I now have the option of 10cm to 14 cm billies depending on the occaision.
Even more pleased with it now and I'd agree with the earlier review that it seems more efficient than the original trangia.
Just done it!
It works a treat...
Yep, it certainly does...
http://www.britishblades.com/pics/wirestand.gif
and (sorry about the blurry pic)...
http://www.britishblades.com/pics/wirestand1.gif
Trust you Martin - I thought my poor old tent peg was a good idea! :banghead:
Right im off to sulk!
Hi Guys,
I'm glad you are enjoying the Clikstand! I see you have figured out why I put those small cutouts next to the protrusions that the pot sets on. I'm impressed! My prototype for the coathanger was a one piece, triangular affair that was bent up halfway in between each corner to bring the cup to the same height it would have if it were sitting on the standard protrusions. It makes the Clikstand compatible with cups or pots too small to fit on the standard protrusions, but of course you have already demonstrated that! If you have any questions for me about the design, function etc. feel free to drop me an e-mail at scott@clikstand.com.
Answers to some other questions:
Yes you can bend the tabs in a bit, but I think the coathanger setup is better.
The MSR Titan kettle is not an ideal match for the Clikstand windscreen. It will fit on the tabs okay if carefully centered, but the handles are too low for the windscreen and I am not sure that the Clikstand will pack inside. The Evernew 0.9L is a much better match (the Clikstand was designed around it) and is comparable in cost (I think).
I will try to find some pictures of my coathanger setup...
Scott Reiner
One more thing...I have heard some talk of Clikstand compatibility with the Trangia pressurized gas burner attachment. I am planning to release a sidewall for the Clikstand that will accommodate the Trangia gas burner attachment. So for those of you who prefer that burner (even sometimes) this will be a great solution. Cheers,
Scott
RovingArcher
29-11-2004, 06:20
Scott, thank you for the heads up on the MSR kettle. When I'm ready, I'll check out the one you suggest.
One more thing...I have heard some talk of Clikstand compatibility with the Trangia pressurized gas burner attachment. I am planning to release a sidewall for the Clikstand that will accommodate the Trangia gas burner attachment. So for those of you who prefer that burner (even sometimes) this will be a great solution. Cheers,
Scott
Thanks for that Scott, actually, I have a trangia nova which I was wondering if it'd fit....
see http://www.britishblades.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4553
...if a sidewall was modified. It'd be cool if you gas burner mod also allowed the use of the optimus multi fuel burner too.
Martyn,
Yes, the sidewall I plan to design should accomodate the "Trangia Nova" or the Primus gas burner that Trangia sells as an attachment. Basically I plan to make an accessory sidewall that replicates the large hole in the side of the Trangia base or something similar. I will try to keep the opening as small as possible so as to maintain good air control.
I have also experimented with sidewalls that have no holes at all in an effort to simulate the directional aspect of the big Trangia sets. This is okay, but under most conditions it is best to have even air flow all around (at least according to my tests). Of course it is easy enough to block the holes with some aluminum tape if a person wanted to use it that way.
If there are any other gas stove attachments out there that people would like to see made compatible with the Clikstand let me know. I will try to accommodate them all with one design if I can...Thanks,
Scott
If there are any other gas stove attachments out there that people would like to see made compatible with the Clikstand let me know. I will try to accommodate them all with one design if I can...Thanks,
Scott
Hi Scott, your clickstand looks like a great piece of kit.
the range of primus himalaya stoves come in gas and multifuel variants and are one of the leading brands alongside the optimus Nova.
I have the gas only variant and rate it better than any other gas stove I've used to date. I think it would be great if this could be fitted to the clickstand.
The design of the himalaya stoves hints that by undoing one central brass nut on the base of the stove, all 3 legs would come off and leave a burner unit in a "cup" that might fit the clickstand easily - in much the same way that the nova conversion works. It would be great if you could take a look at that as a possible conversion too.
Note that primus don't sell a trangia conversion bracket for their stoves like optimus do for the nova but if the sizing is right, this would only be one strip of bent metal.
Cheers,
Hi everyone just received my clickstand from Gary just made a mocha in my kitchen with it, fantastic much quicker to bring the water to the boil than i thought it would be. I am really pleased with it and the service i got from Gary was second to none i can not recommend them both highly enough. cheers for all your help on the phone as well Gary.
Big thumbs up for Gary and bearclawbushcraft.co.uk
brucemacdonald
19-02-2005, 22:37
I think I have found a source of titanium sheeting for those who want to make their own clickstands. Here is the link:
http://www.alphaknifesupply.com/ti-small.htm
They have a bewildering range of grades, thicknesses and sizes available - and they also do just about every other material for knifemaking possible.
Not sure if they will ship to the UK, but as most American dealers are pretty enterprising I would be amazed if they did not.
Best wishes
Bruce
Paganwolf
20-02-2005, 01:26
ive used the clickstand for a few weeks now and its fantastic, :biggthump and top service from bearclaw once again :super: :You_Rock_ fuzzy face :wink:your not easily going to make these things, it will be quicker and cheaper and easier to buy one unless you have a pair of dies and a press handy :lol: