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Viking
08-11-2004, 22:27
Do any of you know anything about this sleeping bag? When I bought it it said that he was from the norweigan army. It is really heavy and large, probably made to fit a fully dressed soldier. But I want to know more about it, when was these sleeping bags made and are they made for winter or summer?

http://www.yoxio.com/img/109635.jpg

Adi007
08-11-2004, 22:31
Got any labels on it?

Nice looking sleeping bag though.

Adi007
08-11-2004, 22:39
Looks like a British Army arctic sack.

arctic hobo
08-11-2004, 22:41
Looks like a British Army arctic sack.

Probably because a lot of the British Army arctic kit is either Norwegian or a copy of Norwegian designs... after all, with arctic experts just nextdoor, why not?
I don't recognise the bag myself... are there no labels?

Viking
08-11-2004, 22:50
There is only a small label with a shield on one side an some numbers on the other.

Adi007
08-11-2004, 22:50
There is only a small label with a shield on one side an some numbers on the other.
What are the numbers?

Great Pebble
08-11-2004, 23:58
Never met an issue bag, from any country, that I've liked.

Best of a bad lot IMHO was the British '58 Bag, but on;y if you could get a long one. Still a heck of a big bundle to cart about.

Viking
09-11-2004, 07:08
What are the numbers?

0351
89

Probably what we call a m-number

Gary
09-11-2004, 07:28
Look warm mate

Viking
09-11-2004, 08:03
Look warm mate

We will soon see if itīs warm enough :wink:

Gary
09-11-2004, 08:22
Thats what I'm worried about - you might be be me??? :chill:

mercury
09-11-2004, 08:31
Don't know what that number is , I no its NOT a nato number which is what I'd expect from a forces bag

Gary
09-11-2004, 08:38
And you'll need it here for sure!

http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v342/bearclaw/lifjell1.jpg

No not a Nato stock number - thats for sure.

Tvividr
09-11-2004, 10:18
We will soon see if itīs warm enough :wink:

Thats what I'm worried about - you might be be me??? :chill:
:o): :nana: don't worry. On the news this morning they said that the long term prognosis indicated that it would be a mild winter. I guess that's a 50/50 chance - those weather men can't be trusted for long term predictments. Guess that you can expect anything between 0 - minus 20 C, although I've had minus 29 on that mountain too, and then you really gonna do this :hyper:

Gary
09-11-2004, 12:54
Minus 1 is brrrrr - anything else is :yikes: wheres me woolly undies!

Viking
09-11-2004, 13:15
Minus 1 is brrrrr - anything else is :yikes: wheres me woolly undies!

With the right knowledge you will never freeze or you can become a viking and then you will never feel the cold winds just a warm breeze.

Gary
09-11-2004, 13:40
We dont call it viking we call that warm breeze F**ting!! :rolmao:

We shall see. :super:

Tvividr
09-11-2004, 15:27
We dont call it viking we call that warm breeze F**ting!! :rolmao: We shall see. :super:
Yeah, real viking gorp always give you lots of gas :shock:
Johan, I will email the pic of your bag to a few noggin army people that I know, to get their oppinion.

Hoodoo
09-11-2004, 16:01
Here's a description of a Norwegian bag I found online. I don't know if it's the same as the one you have. The url is here. (http://www.majorsurplusnsurvival.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=087536&Category_Code=71)

It must get real cold in Norway for them to produce a military bag like this one! Mummy style made of Olive Drab water repellant cotton canvas with 5 lbs. of Dupont Dacron HollofilŪ for cold weather comfort. Complete with anti-snag two-way center zipper, circle reinforced foot, sewn-in roll-up ties, draw string hood and full length oversized wind baffle. Measures 79”L from top to hood with 28” across the shoulders tapering to 18”, rolled size is 20”L x 10”D. Stuff sack with carry handle included. Weighs 6.50 lbs. New Unissued.

Viking
09-11-2004, 21:39
This is an answer I gor on another forum

Looks like one of the "new model" sleeping bags issued from 1990's on.
The ones I used in my day had "Navy duffel coat" type buttons.
Used one of the new models with zipper during my last reserve call up some years ago though.
If I remember correctly the new model was an evolution on the 3 layer design concept of the old model (i.e. with an inner "washing layer", a mid quilted "heat layer", and an outher cover layer.
During my basic training year we used to change the inner layer of the sleeping bag for a new one from the depot once every month.
If I'm not wrong think the sleeping bag comes in 2 models.
A standard model, and a "jaeger" model with better insulation properties (comfortable in underwear mode down to -28 - -30 C) for jaeger and recon units. We hade some of the prototypes of the jaeger models on testing in my unit, when I did my basic year. They were made by Ajungilak based on their Tyin cold weather sleeping bag model (though with zipper opening, and were a great improvement over the old model maggots we used at the time.

Tvividr
09-11-2004, 22:17
Tyin models are good, so it might work Johan :-P

Viking
09-11-2004, 22:24
As soon as it getīs a bit colder here I will try it again to see if it can take some cold. But I will probably use it with another sleeping bag inside it for norway or sleep in my cold weather parka and pants :rolmao:

Tvividr
09-11-2004, 22:43
:rolmao: I'm gonna use my Ajungilak Tyin Elite and a Jerven Fjellduken - that should do it no matter what the temperature :o):

Viking
10-11-2004, 10:24
:rolmao: I'm gonna use my Ajungilak Tyin Elite and a Jerven Fjellduken - that should do it no matter what the temperature :o):

I have heard about the "Jerven Fjellduken" I have heard that all norweigans always carry one and use them all year around?
Just cehecked what they cost and they were not cheap...

CLEM
10-11-2004, 16:35
What does Jaerven duk translate too in English,is it Wolverine sheath.

TheViking
10-11-2004, 16:39
What does Jaerven duk translate too in English,is it Wolverine sheath.
It's a tarp. A tarp with insulation. It's 100% wind and waterproof.

CLEM
10-11-2004, 16:44
It's a tarp. A tarp with insulation. It's 100% wind and waterproof.I figured it may be a tarp Wiking Duden :wink: ,but i was wondering what it translated as.Oh and i dont reckon there is anything cheap in Norway,well if there is ive not found it or what it is yet. :o):

arctic hobo
10-11-2004, 23:21
I figured it may be a tarp Wiking Duden :wink: ,but i was wondering what it translated as.Oh and i dont reckon there is anything cheap in Norway,well if there is ive not found it or what it is yet. :o):

Friendliness. But that's all :nana:

Tvividr
13-11-2004, 22:46
Sorry Johan, I didn't mean to highjack your thread and turn it into a Fjellduken thread :roll:


I have heard about the "Jerven Fjellduken" I have heard that all norweigans always carry one and use them all year around?
Just cehecked what they cost and they were not cheap...
A lot of people who travel extensively in the mountains use them. They are also more or less standard issue in the army.
And you are right : They are not cheap !! But they are still a superb piece of equipment. I have only used the standard model up till now, but over New Year I will get the new Multimate model.


What does Jaerven duk translate too in English,is it Wolverine sheath.
Wolverine tarp.


It's a tarp. A tarp with insulation. It's 100% wind and waterproof.
It is actually more than just a tarp. It is a mountain rescue bag (all sides have zippers and you can zip it into a bag), a poncho, a tarp shelther, and the insulated models can even be used as a light sleeping bag (one model was designed specially for the army as a substitute to a winter sleeping bag). The insulated lining is detatchable - and the new Multi model can even be converted into a proper two man tunnel tent (with additional accessories).
I will do a review of the Jerven Fjellduken Multimate when I get this new model just over New Year - if there is any interest in that of cause ?


......Oh and i dont reckon there is anything cheap in Norway,well if there is ive not found it or what it is yet. :o):
I can agree with that :o):


Friendliness. But that's all :nana:
And I can agree with that too :biggthump

Viking
14-11-2004, 17:34
Gerd, you can hihack my threads anytime.

I have tried the sleeping bag this weekend and this time it was about 4-5 minus and I was warm. We spent the night in a lean to with a longlog fire but it burned it during the night and early in the morning a guy with his new lightweight sleeping bag woke up freezing and was lying and was warmer then I am at home. For 400 SEK (Ģ30) as the sleeping bag cost me I can itīs well spended money.

Tvividr
14-11-2004, 20:32
Gerd, you can hihack my threads anytime.

I have tried the sleeping bag this weekend and this time it was about 4-5 minus and I was warm. We spent the night in a lean to with a longlog fire but it burned it during the night and early in the morning a guy with his new lightweight sleeping bag woke up freezing and was lying and was warmer then I am at home. For 400 SEK (Ģ30) as the sleeping bag cost me I can itīs well spended money.
:o): Let's just hope that it will be just as good at even lower temps. Eleven more days and I am going to recce for good campsites, :mischief: I will try to find one that will be really cold, then we can test how those brits (or well, at least one of them :wave: ) cope with that :shock: :naughty:
I better run and duck for cover now :tw:

woodrat
12-01-2005, 23:05
Tvividr, stop your making me drool on my commputer, where can a yank get one????

Tvividr
14-01-2005, 00:11
Tvividr, stop your making me drool on my commputer, where can a yank get one????
:o): here http://www.jerven.no/ in Norwegian only I'm afraid.
Expensive stuff though :shock:

jack29g
24-02-2005, 18:18
sorry, i'm very late on the scene with this tread but i was wondering whee you got it from. And how much it was. I'm confused, did viking get it off the wesite mentioned just above?? please help, the bag looks amazing, oh yeah by the way how heavy is it i :lol: n kg?

Viking
24-02-2005, 18:34
sorry, i'm very late on the scene with this tread but i was wondering whee you got it from. And how much it was. I'm confused, did viking get it off the wesite mentioned just above?? please help, the bag looks amazing, oh yeah by the way how heavy is it i :lol: n kg?

No I got the sleeping bag from a surplus store here in sweden, itīs a very heavy monster. My guess it weighs 3-4 kg. But it have kept me warm in both norway and cold nights here in sweden.

I have found another bag in my surplus shop wich seems to be the same as this one http://www.surplusandadventure.com/ishop/800/shopscr1614.html and it looks really good and I will probably buy one just to see if they are any good.

jack29g
24-02-2005, 19:06
do you know if theres any shop on the net that sells the norweigan one?

Viking
24-02-2005, 19:45
do you know if theres any shop on the net that sells the norweigan one?

No, I have not seen any...

jack29g
26-02-2005, 08:24
did you ever find out what temp it could go down till?

Viking
26-02-2005, 11:21
No, but so far I have slept in it when it was -20 and even slept in it when it was wet and around -10-15 without any problems.

Tore
26-02-2005, 22:09
0351
89

Probably what we call a m-number

A shield mark is often used on Norwegian Military equipment. Often a number inside the shield indicates year of manufacture. The 89 might indicate that the bag was made in 1989.

Tore