View Full Version : Legs and Bum!(is this allowed?) What do you wear?
beachlover
30-10-2004, 21:53
Having just been out up the Downs (Duns - Yes I know the origin stuff - pedants) and on the beach, thoroughly trashing a good pair of so-called army lightweights and got soaked in the process, the question is what do you guys (and that includes women in an inclusive world) wear as trousers?
I am looking at waxed thornproofs, but would be grateful for the experience of others.
personaly i ware shorts all year round when im walking in the woods or anywhere else.. doesnt hold moisture close to your legs, and as long as your core is walm all is well.. this might only be fesable in the sunny south down here in devon though :rolmao:
if i am sitting by the fire at night or such like and i am not moving i will put on some cotton type basic walking trousers and occasinaly ware thurmals in me sleeping bag if its really cold.. dont know that this what you were looking for but no one has replyed all evening thought i would drop my 2p :wink:
Bushmaster
31-10-2004, 00:17
Ok gonna post my choices, but they are just my preference.
When I'm walking in the summer I wear either shorts (craghoppers) or lightweight walking trousers.In the winter I wear Paramo trousers.No need for waterproofs as they are waterproof as well.In the woods I wear a pair of dark green sallopettes I found for sale.They were designed for snowboarding,but they are waterproof,have padded bum and knees and are totally abrasion resistant.Summer in the woods it is just my cotton walking trousers.Hope this helps
Geoff :wave:
dont you find that Salopets.. and/or practically anything that is waterprof makes a lot of noise as you walk, or is this no an issue?
what are Paramo trousers like? any links pics? :wink:
cheap trousers (by that I mean £5)
I can't stand waterproof noise, if it's really colddamp or snowing then a pair of ron hills DXB under the normal trousers sort it out. They are semi waterproof (work the same as ventile) so are really good for snow. On there own they wont stop major down pours but if they are under another layer they hold out very well.
Mountain resue thought my dad had the best trousers for the job they do when he went in his motor bike leather trousers. thornproof warm breathable, waterproof and easier to move around in then you might think. Down side is they retail for about £90
Squidders
31-10-2004, 11:21
I wear craghopper trousers... the ones that the legs zip off of to make shorts... and I don't really care if they get wet as they dry really quickly and I always have a spare pair.
My jacket is just long enough to keep the contents of my pockets dry in a downpour and same as tomtom as long as I keep my core body temp up everything else is fine... to be honest, I'm usually too hot anyway regardless of the weather.
simonsays
31-10-2004, 13:31
Having just been out up the Downs (Duns - Yes I know the origin stuff - pedants) and on the beach, thoroughly trashing a good pair of so-called army lightweights and got soaked in the process, the question is what do you guys (and that includes women in an inclusive world) wear as trousers?
I am looking at waxed thornproofs, but would be grateful for the experience of others.
When I'm out and about in the great outdoors I wear shorts when its hot (i.e. 3 days a year), Ronhills for most of the year and Paramo trousers in the rain/snow. I suppose the Ronhills are my favorites because they're fairly cheap and appear to be pretty indestructible. They do however tend to make yer bum look big and sadly I seem to have a fair headstart in this respect :cry:
simon
Moonraker
31-10-2004, 15:13
Fjällräven do a great range of waxed thornproof poly/ cotton trousers and other stuff. The beauty of using the wax (they sell a 'Greenland' wax which is a paraffin/ beeswax mix) is that you can vary the waterproofing by how much you apply. And for summer you just wash it out! You could do this with any other poly/cotton trousers I guess also.
They have 36 different styles in their current product range I saw so something for everyone :-). Check them out here:
Fjällräven -Products (http://www.fjallraven.se/en/products.htm)
Some like the Forester range have 'silent' hydratic liners under the ply/cotton waxed outer like the Ash model. I have never tried those so can't say how silent is silent. Others like the Barents have additional reinforcements on the knees and bum which is handy for scrabbling around. The Greenland trousers are a very popular model.
Bushmaster
31-10-2004, 19:45
Hi Guys.as requested Tom Tom here is the link you require for Paramo gear.I have to say it is the best gear I have ever baught for hill walking and wilderness walking, also they are soft shell and do not make a noise like regular waterproofs.Read the section that explains how it works,it really is the best ever.Some people say they get to hot in it but I have never had a problem.I used a velez smock and the cascada trousers to climb Ben Nevis via the carn mor dearg arete in 80 mph winds and rain.Not a leak didn't get cold at all and all I had on undrneath was a helly hansen lifa top. :super:
www.paramo.co.uk
Geoff
Ps the sallopetes are non russtley stuff and very hard wearing, great for the woods.
Paganwolf
31-10-2004, 20:37
I usually wear Ex-Mod light weights there £12 a pair from my local army surplus shop, they're quick drying, non-noisy, comfey, cheap and my favorite colour green :-P :naughty:
TheViking
31-10-2004, 20:52
Nothing high-tech. Just a very old pair of cotton trousers. :roll: I definately need a new pair, they're almost falling apart. :shock:
arctic hobo
31-10-2004, 22:26
I can second Paramo, they make excellent stuff. If you're richer than Bill Gates also look at ARC'TERYX. I wear the Nanok Endurance SF reversible trousers :-)
A lot depends on what I'm doing & where I am, when I used to spend lots of time in the mountains its was Ron Hills or a set of Vander Salopettes, in summer my Fjallraven Greenland Jeans.
For out on the moors or bushcraft, where your trousers are likely to get trashed British Army Lightwiegths are ideal, cheap (£5), fast-drying and hard wearing.
The bottoms will get trashed if used in thorns & briers, so I always use strong canvas gaiters.
The 65/35 polycotton mix is a very good fabric for outdoor use, a lot of industrial workwear manufacturers use it, and so you can often pick up very reasonably priced, non-military looking trousers that are ideal for bushcrafting.
I got a tan coloured M65 copy trouser for £10 from one such outlet a couple of months ago and they are proving to be a very good buy.
Neil
I generally wear zip-offs or if i know it's gonna be very thorny I wear dutch fatigues.
When it's wet I wear my old gore-tex DPM waterproofs.
But I do need to get some trousers to wear in the winter that are a bit warmer...
beachlover
01-11-2004, 10:28
Thanks for all the helpful comments guys.
Seems to me like it's £100 for the paramos, or cheap army jobs and some continuing discomfort.
Aaaaggghhhh! Xmas savings looking more precarious by the minute :cry:
Or Shorts and sandals.
shorts and bear feet :biggthump
Paramo's are certainly good, altho' I run hot and find them too warm, but they are synthetic so you might want to go for the cheapo polycotton if you're going to be near a fire.
Ted W
Paganwolf
01-11-2004, 12:40
Paramo's are certainly good, altho' I run hot and find them too warm, but they are synthetic so you might want to go for the cheapo polycotton if you're going to be near a fire.
Ted W
True i've got a few burn holes in my £12 lightweights if they were £100 id be well miffed!!!! as long as there quick drying and comfy and cheap then there good for outdoorsy stuff, i've snagged up on barbed wire also when i've been out shooting imagine tearing the butt out of a £100 quid pair of paramo's :yikes: :cry:
Light weights do me - although I also like and wear craghopper kiwi trousers - anything poly/cotton generally works being reasonably tough and quick drying.
I have a pair of Mountain Hardware overtrousers that I don't wear because I can just see them getting ripped within seconds of getting out!
BIG-TARGET
01-11-2004, 13:09
A pair of surplus NYCO BDU pants, either woodland camo, or "coffee stain" desert camo.
And if it's real cold, a rare pair of XXXXL 100% nylon fleece sweat pants over the BDUs.
i've snagged up on barbed wire also when i've been out shooting imagine tearing the butt out of a £100 quid pair of paramo's :yikes: :cry:
The good thing about Paramo stuff is that because it doesn't rely on a waterproof membrane, you can snag it on thorns and it remains waterproof. If you tear it. it can be sewn up. Unlike G*****x :lol:
I believe that it's a case of "Horses for courses". I am a member of a search and rescue team so my kit demands for that situation are different to when I'm out in the woods. But I am definately a paramo convert :super:
I wear my trusty light weights
I 'm thinking breechclouts would be better.
bambodoggy
11-11-2004, 10:24
I go for the short cotton karki shorts right up until I can no longer feel my legs through cold and then switch to the old brit army lightweights....but I have to agree about their lack of fire resistance...I once saw a guy with his melted onto his legs, it looked horrid but then he should have known better than to play football with a parachute flare!!!!
If you can hold out from the cold with shorts you'll do just fine, nothing in the world is as waterproof and breathable as our skin....speaking of skins...
Does anyone ever try to make leggings out of the skins from the bunnies and squirels you all seem to be shooting? ? ? I'm told buckskin leggings and shirts are ideal outdoor wear....sort of Tom Brown Jrn style! :)