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tomtom
26-10-2004, 15:07
ok so what are these green dots at the top of our posts?
have they always been there? im pretty sure they are new? what do they symbolise?

jakunen
26-10-2004, 15:11
The one on the right (square) shows your rep, the one on the left (round)shows people whether you're on line on not.

shinobi
26-10-2004, 15:13
Hiya,

Do you mean the ones next to your user name or the squarish ones on the right of the post under your location?

The one next to your user name is green if you are online. The other one is some sort of rating. How it works, I don't know :?:

tomtom
26-10-2004, 15:17
yeh the online/offline one isnt new..

i ment the one under the location.. whats "rep"?

shinobi
26-10-2004, 15:24
I've noticed that there is a set of silver scales on the top right of the post. If you hover your mouse over it, it says that you can add to a persons reputation.

I guess, if you like someones post, you can click on it and give them good rep. Not sure what you get though :?: Maybe some badges at a certain point:o):

tomtom
26-10-2004, 15:28
i only have scales on posts made by my self.. huumm.. :?:

shinobi
26-10-2004, 15:30
I wonder if that is something to do with membership status?

It would be interesting to hear what other people see on their posts !!

tomtom
26-10-2004, 15:34
what happens when you click on it, Shinobi.. as a gold member??

tenbears10
26-10-2004, 15:35
Yeah Tom I have scales on everyones posts so I must be able to add to everyones rep. What's it worth then? :wink: Only joking Mods please don't kill me.

I think British Blades use it like a mini ebay feedback so when you buy from someone you can add to their rep, good or bad. Not 100% what we do here.

Bill

tomtom
26-10-2004, 15:36
i see..

Tantalus
26-10-2004, 15:50
:roll: i'm scaleless here

is this bad?

Tant

jakunen
26-10-2004, 15:51
I can see scales on your post, maybe you can only see them if you're a paid up member?:?:

tomtom
26-10-2004, 16:06
yeh it sounds like a gold members only jobby.. thats why Tant

NickBristol
26-10-2004, 16:15
I'm not a gold member but i can see the scales... I'm too chicken to press them tho in case a mod gets me :rolmao:

Tantalus
26-10-2004, 16:18
so everyone that isnt a goldmember just gets green spots?

life gets wierder every day :shock:

Tant

JakeR
26-10-2004, 17:18
How are you meant to know what rating you have, i don't have any numbers like on BB :?:

Adi007
26-10-2004, 17:26
You should have scales now Tant - an oversight on my part due to trying to do too many things at once.

Thanks for bringing it up! :biggthump

JakeR
26-10-2004, 17:50
You havent got a green dot Adi! How do we know how much our rep/others rep is?

Tantalus
26-10-2004, 17:59
ooooooooh

:hyper: :red: :hyper:

now i got scales and spots

thanx adi ;)

Tant

Kim
26-10-2004, 18:07
Do they itch?
:shock:

Tantalus
26-10-2004, 18:11
luckily i have a doctors appt on friday

:nana: Tant

tomtom
26-10-2004, 18:31
thanks Adi :1244:

hootchi
26-10-2004, 18:44
iv got both dots round and square and the scales are above all post by everyone. I think numbers may come up next to it if someone adds to reputation. its like that on british blades but a ten appears at the start as a basic number of rep.?? I dont understand really. We need a moderator!!

Kath
26-10-2004, 19:50
The more dots the higher the reputation. You can see your reputation in the User Control Panel.

:biggthump

TheViking
26-10-2004, 19:58
Kath, what does it mean when the square dot in the user control panel is red?

Kath
26-10-2004, 20:25
Looks like it's green now... :nana:

hootchi
26-10-2004, 21:18
I cant even find my green squarey dotty thing in the user cp?

JakeR
26-10-2004, 22:15
How do we see each others reps?

Kath
26-10-2004, 22:30
How do we see each others reps?
You can't, sorry. :?:

JakeR
26-10-2004, 22:31
Will we ever be able to?

Kath
26-10-2004, 22:34
I cant even find my green squarey dotty thing in the user cp?

You'll see it on the front page of your User CP once you've received a reputation 'click' (eg. someone clicks on the scales on one of your posts and either adds to or deducts from your reputation.) :wink:

HTH!

Kath
26-10-2004, 22:39
Will we ever be able to?I can't say yet... It's only been running 24 hours so far. Let us see how it works out first before we have to start hacking it, eh?! :wink:

Tantalus
26-10-2004, 23:09
click on the scales on one of your own posts and you should see your reputation

Tant

tomtom
26-10-2004, 23:14
How do we see each others reps?


You can't, sorry. :?:

i thought thats what the green dots were for.. now i am really confused!

Ed
26-10-2004, 23:18
The green dot only gives you the reputation rank.... not your actual score :-)

Ed

Kath
26-10-2004, 23:53
click on the scales on one of your own posts and you should see your reputation

Tant
Cheers Tant! :You_Rock_

shinobi
27-10-2004, 01:13
You can see your reputation in the User Control Panel.

:biggthump
Where in the user CP? I've had a good look around, to no avail :sad:

Cheers,

Martin

leon-1
27-10-2004, 01:21
Hi mate, go into User CP, Edit Options and then the second box down has a check box to enable or disable it :-)

Ed
27-10-2004, 01:24
Try in Edit Options in your CP ;-)

Ed

johnboy
27-10-2004, 03:46
I'm a bit confused by all of this. While I understand the concept of reputation say on ebay where you want to gain a higher reputation so people will buy things from you.

What purpose does it serve on a chat / information forum??? If for example I made a post that another forum member disagreed with or disliked, they could click on the scales say they disaproved and not leave any feed back in the box underneath? (this would then affect your 'reputation' ????).

Sounds like trouble brewing to me!!

Cheers

John

leon-1
27-10-2004, 04:06
John, it has been used quite effectively on other sites, but I daresay if it all goes a little pear shaped it will get removed, in due time it will either turn out to be a good thing or bad.

For the moment just go with the flow and see how it works out, you never know, you may even find it helpfull at a later date :wink:

johnboy
27-10-2004, 04:21
I hope it work out as well. I wasn't having a dig at the powers that be.
But how does it work exactly?

If you disagree with a post do you have to state why you disagree?? Are those comments moderated? Sorry for the questions but Iv'e got these neat little scales of justice a cool green square and a warning triangle and no real Idea what they do or why they are there?

Cheers

John

leon-1
27-10-2004, 04:38
I hope it work out as well. I wasn't having a dig at the powers that be.
But how does it work exactly?

If you disagree with a post do you have to state why you disagree?? Are those comments moderated? Sorry for the questions but Iv'e got these neat little scales of justice a cool green square and a warning triangle and no real Idea what they do or why they are there?

Cheers

John

I'm not in possession of all the facts myself, but the little green square is an indication really of how usefull your posts are (if people find what you post to be good they can give you points, if it is normal then probably no points will be forthcoming, but if it is misleading or blatant nonsense then you can vote to have points deducted).

As far as being able to read comments I don't know myself yet (Kath and Adi have probably sent something out that will clear this up and I have either overlooked it or missed it by accident).

You already know what you use the scales for.

The red triangle with the exclamaton mark is used for reporting bad posts and that is about all really :-)


I wasn't having a dig at the powers that be.

:rolmao: :rolmao: Believe it or not the powers that be are very sensible and would not take offense or believe that you were having a go, the way that it is typed does not come across like that.

I on the other hand can come across a little abrupt at times :wink:

johnboy
27-10-2004, 04:56
Cheers Leon,

I pressed the red triangle on one of your posts and it threw up a box to fill in so I clicked back ( hope I haven't affected your reputation!!!?).


Here's a question possibly for someone else!? How come I don't see the reputation indicating green dot on everybody? For example Leon you are a moderator and a full member and have a green reputation dot, Ed who has posted a bit further up is a moderator a full member and has no green dot?

Anyway enough of this Dot talk The tides in I'm off for a Kayak.

cheers

John

leon-1
27-10-2004, 05:24
John, in the User CP if you enter edit options the second box down allows you to switch the reputation side of life on or off, effectivley if you wish it there it can be, the choice is totally yours. :o):

There were a couple of hickups earlier,but I believe that Adi has sorted them now :-)

Martyn
27-10-2004, 05:51
How are you meant to know what rating you have, i don't have any numbers like on BB :?:

The numbers on BB are a 3rd party hack Jake.

This is how it works (I think :) ). At first, all members get 10 reputation points and one green blob. Providing they have a certain post count, a member can add or deduct 1 reputation point. This is your "reputation altering power" or RAP for short. For every 500 posts you make on BcUK, your RAP incriments by one point. So somone with 2000 posts, has thier initial 1 point, plus 4 more points for thier post count. They can then add or deduct 5 reputation points to other members. You get additional RAP points, for having a high reputation. Over time, as your post count and reputation increase, so does your reputation altering power.

It takes a long time to acquire a high reputation, but the process speeds up as the forums mature. For every 100 reputation points, you get another green blob. If you have 1000 reputation points, you'll have 10 green blobs in a row. This can take a very long time (which is why I added the number hack on BB - so you can see reputation as a numerical value, not just a green blob).

When you add reputation to someone (by clicking on the scales icon) you are given an option to leave a message of explanation. This can be viewed in your user control panel. Though everyone can see your green blobs, only you get to see who gave or deducted reputation points and why.

The reputation system itself is useful, especially to newbies on the forum. If someone asks a question and they get a reply from a member with a high rep, the newbie can be pretty sure of being able to take the response "to the bank". Equally, if a member is for some reason being very annoying or acting in an antisocial way, members can express thier frustration by deducting rep points - though in practice this rarely happens. If you found this post informative and helpful, you may choose to give me a reputation point, or if you feel it is a useless and inaccurate post and a blatant pimp for reputation, you may decide to deduct a point - the choice is yours. :D :D

I believe the reputation system is set up as an "opt out" system, so if you dont want to participate, you can turn it off in your userCP. You will then no longer display the green blob and you wont be able to give or recieve reputation points. I would suggest sticking with it though. I've been using it on BB for about 18 months and have had no problems.

I think the system is pretty new here, so the admins may alter the way it works until they find a mode of operation that satisfies them, so it may change a bit in the short term. I'm sure you'll be updated as to how it will all work.

Have fun. ;) :D

jakunen
27-10-2004, 10:12
Hi mate, go into User CP, Edit Options and then the second box down has a check box to enable or disable it :-)
Leon,
Had a look at my CP but can't find that check box, or see my rep:?:

Tantalus
27-10-2004, 10:46
Try again jakunen i just gave ya a point :)

Tant

Kath
27-10-2004, 10:56
Leon,
Had a look at my CP but can't find that check box, or see my rep:?:
Oh dear! It should appear in Edit Options under "Show My Reputation Level" (near the top). :?: It says:

"Your current reputation level is displayed to other users whenever you post a message. If you would like to hide your reputation, disable this option.

You currently have 10 reputation points.
Show My Reputation Level [tick box]"

Hope that helps you spot it, Martin. If it's not there, it must mean there's a gremlin in the works somewhere! :roll: Let me know ... and I'll see what I can do to get the little blighter out of there! :wink: :biggthump

JakeR
27-10-2004, 10:59
OH, Tant! I can't see it either :wink:

jakunen
27-10-2004, 11:27
Tant,

Cheers mate, I did get an update bit saying you'd just given me a point and I now have 11.

Kath,

No, in my Edit Option, I can't see that anywhere, thread view - yes, allow email notification - yes, etc. but show reputuation - no.
Must be a gremlin. I use WYSIWYG, does that make any difference?

match
27-10-2004, 11:32
I personally like it - it gives you a very basic idea about who is likely to give trustworthy info on the board - e.g someone who has been here for years, and posted hundreds of posts but not got many rep points might be a dubious source of information ;)

Ooh - my reputation has gone up by a point this morning - someone liked something I said! :o):

hootchi
27-10-2004, 11:49
I cant find mine either!!

hootchi
27-10-2004, 11:53
Why does it not show the value next to the dot like BB??

Lithril
27-10-2004, 12:00
Thats because the value is a hack that BB has added

Ed
27-10-2004, 12:00
someone who has been here for years, and posted hundreds of posts but not got many rep points might be a dubious source of information
....or more likely more of a social chatter rather than an infomation guru ;-)


I cant find mine either!!
Quite a few people can't see it and we are aware of the problem and are looking into it to get it fixed.


Why does it not show the value next to the dot like BB??
Because the BB one has a 3rd party hack put in by martyn that does this.

Everyone please remember this only went up yesterday and it is still being tweeked and the bugs ironing out.

Before posting please read through this thread as many questions and comments have already been addressed..... we know there is a problem..... its getting sorted.

Thanks all :biggthump

Ed

Adi007
27-10-2004, 12:16
Should all be working now ... let me know (by PM might be better) if it now doesn't.

Have fun!

jakunen
27-10-2004, 12:21
IT WORKS!!!Cheers Adi and folks.

hootchi
27-10-2004, 14:21
If you click on the silver scales on your own post it quickly shows you your points

TheViking
27-10-2004, 15:14
My opinion is that it's great to give eachother good and bad reputation points. BUT... :wink: Instead of giving a reputation point, isn't it better also to write why?? :roll: No matter if it's a good or bad point.

tomtom
27-10-2004, 18:52
i dont suppose there is anything to stop you doing so anyway?

den
29-10-2004, 12:24
Sorry if I’m being a bit slow here.
I had a green dot in the right hand corner now it’s gone.
Does that mean someone has disagreed with what I’ve said or not?

Adi007
29-10-2004, 12:28
Sorry if I’m being a bit slow here.
I had a green dot in the right hand corner now it’s gone.
Does that mean someone has disagreed with what I’ve said or not?
You'd just switched it off by accident - I've switched it back on for you. You are still on a distinguished road!

jakunen
29-10-2004, 12:30
Adi,
Quick question.

This 'on a distinguished road'. Does the 'road' change as your rep goes up or down?
If so, what are the levels?

den
29-10-2004, 12:30
Cheers Adi :o):

Adi007
29-10-2004, 12:37
Adi,
Quick question.

This 'on a distinguished road'. Does the 'road' change as your rep goes up or down?
If so, what are the levels?
They do change - the current phrases are the default phrases for the vBulletin software package:
http://www.bushcraftuk.net/images/rep.gif

jakunen
29-10-2004, 12:42
Cheers Adi,

Oh, well, only a few thousand more posts required to get to the 'Beyond repute then'...:o):

Andy
29-10-2004, 15:19
My rep box has gone but I don't think I've taken it off. I can't find the switch.
ho hum you all know I'm nice but dim anyway

Adi007
29-10-2004, 15:31
My rep box has gone but I don't think I've taken it off. I can't find the switch.
ho hum you all know I'm nice but dim anyway
Yep, you'd switched it off too ... back on now!

The checkbox that you are looking out for in UserCP is under Edit Options in the menu on the left:
http://www.bushcraftuk.net/images/rep1.gif
Make sure it has the check mark if you want the Rep box to appear.
http://www.bushcraftuk.net/images/rep2.gif

Kim
29-10-2004, 21:01
My green dot has decided to abscond and I don't know why. I haven't altered anything... :shock:

Tantalus
29-10-2004, 21:23
oh nooooooooooooo

your reputation fell apart??

:shock: Tant

bushwacker bob
29-10-2004, 22:04
My green dot has decided to abscond and I don't know why. I haven't altered anything... :shock:
You poor woman. your reputation has just gone out of the window.

Kim
30-10-2004, 13:35
Finally!

I've always aspired to be a complete rebrobate!

Hurray for me.

:35:

Kim
30-10-2004, 13:37
Oh no...it's back!

FOILED AGAIN!
:cry:

Tantalus
30-10-2004, 13:41
just when you thought it was safe................

:rolmao: Tant

MagiKelly
03-11-2004, 22:18
I just noticed that when someone adds to your reputation you get a comment and a note of which post it was added on but cannot see who added to your reputation. I take it this is to stop mutual back slapping or is ther another reason? I know on BB you can see who added to your reputation.

Stew
03-11-2004, 22:23
maybe it's to stop back stabbing! It's not always got to be positive!!

MagiKelly
03-11-2004, 22:31
maybe it's to stop back stabbing! It's not always got to be positive!!
Hadn't thought of that. Which probably says something about this forum. I cannot imagine any of the regulars having a negative reputation. Could be a challenge :shock:

Andy
03-11-2004, 23:58
I got one on BB, early days and I just pta joke that was a bit off

still my rep fairly healthy now