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jungle_re
22-12-2008, 15:38
Timings and location flexible. But looking at the end of march begining of April and somewhere between Hay and symonds yat.
As it says on the tin really, bit of paddling with full kit and a couple of nights camping details to be confirm dependant on interest.
I can easilly accomodate another in my boat and all there kit
Humpback
22-12-2008, 15:53
Look forward to hearing dates and details.
Alan
John Fenna
22-12-2008, 16:43
Look forward to hearing dates and details.
Alan
What he said!
jungle_re
22-12-2008, 17:13
i tend to be really flexible with work time etc, so happy to work around other commitments. I'll have a look at suitable campsite/places to rough camp. I was thinking of meeting up on the friday decent campfire meal and the usual chin wag good days paddling on the sat stopping with enough time to get a well set up camp good meal few beers etc and a a leisurely suday fiishing at early afternoon. Any thoughts john im sure you must know this streatch like the back of your hand?
Interest her from a novice paddler:D . Will watch this thread with interest.
jungle_re
22-12-2008, 23:01
i shouldnt worry im a novice but these streatchs of the wye are fairly straight forward. Swam most of it as a child; some who have seen my paddling might say i be swimming it again:lmao:
John Fenna
23-12-2008, 08:31
I am afraid that I have only ever used commercial campsites on the Wye, so have no idea about who to get perm from for wild camps although the camp site - if you can call it that - river right just below Monnington rapid - if you can call it that - is just a bit of bank and no facilitities bar a tap......
the contact I had was Mr Price, Newcourt Farm, Preston-on-Wye Tel 01981 500 349.
This is about 17 miles down river from Hay, 11 miles up river from Hereford.
The camp at Hoarwithy is just a big field but has plastic box toilets.
45 miles downriver from Hay 11 miles downriver from Hereford 10 miles up from Ross.
No current contact details.
Try getting hold of "The Canoeists Guide to the River Wye" or getting the latest info from folk on SoTP.
If it works out that I can make it I can fit another in my boat and kit out someone with a large Bouyancy Aid and paddles and vehicle share from West Wales.
For the record I am a level 4 coach and would not be too put out if folk wanted a little bit of instruction - but most of the Wye is novice heaven!
Are there places on the Wye where you can hire Canadian canoes for a few days, I’d love to do this but I don’t have a canoe or any of the kit that is required, My daughter would love this also. I’ve done sea canoeing and a small amount of river canoeing, but it was a long time ago
jungle_re - I'd be really interested in coming. No canoe (yet - I'm getting closer to permission!) so could I jump in with you? Dates pending of course - I work some weekends.
Dougster
23-12-2008, 09:12
Are there places on the Wye where you can hire Canadian canoes for a few days, I’d love to do this but I don’t have a canoe or any of the kit that is required, My daughter would love this also. I’ve done sea canoeing and a small amount of river canoeing, but it was a long time ago
Google Black Mountain Activities - I used to work for them in a former life. They hire and do pick ups from downriver.
Google Black Mountain Activities - I used to work for them in a former life. They hire and do pick ups from downriver.Fantastic, I’ve save that link for later, roll on the school holidays :You_Rock_
Red Kite
23-12-2008, 09:32
Are there places on the Wye where you can hire Canadian canoes for a few days, I’d love to do this but I don’t have a canoe or any of the kit that is required, My daughter would love this also. I’ve done sea canoeing and a small amount of river canoeing, but it was a long time ago
Hi Tadpole
Loads of places to hire from on the Wye, do a search on canoe hire river wye and you'll be spoiled for choice. Typical cost is £25/£30 per day for multi day hires, and they will drop you off and collect you for a small additional charge.
I've stayed at both of the sites that John mentioned this year, and both allow camp fires. There are 2 sites at Monnington Falls (one above and one below) the one above is a small orchard with possibilties for hammocks. Theres no website for this site but Johns contact details are still good. Excellent pub up in the village that does the biggest roast dinners you've ever seen.
Tresseck camsite at Hoarwithy ( http://www.tresseckcampsite.co.uk/index.htm ) is an open strip of land alongside the river - so tents only if we stay here. Facilities consist of some portaloos, and it can get pretty grim if the site is busy.
The Monington Falls site (Near Bredwardine if you want to look at the map) would be a good base for a trip starting below Hay on Wye (I put in upstream of the toll bridge at Whitney on Wye on my last trip where there is free parking) overnight at the campsite and then paddle on to Hereford. Take out in Hereford is at the rowing club. If you contact them in advance they usually allow you to park in their carpark (£1 fee the last time I used it), otherwise theres a public car park just up the road.
Hoarwithy would suit a trip from Hereford to Ross on Wye.
Or you could combine the two and have three days of paddling - with a very long second day.
I'm not aware of anywhere along the Wye that will allow "wild camping" , and I think the chances of just hauling out somewhere and going unnoticed would be pretty slim if theres a group. The river is heavily managed for fishing and regularly patroled by the estate managers and water bailiffs.
I'll keep an eye on the dates for this - but count me in.
ATB
Stewart
jungle_re
23-12-2008, 11:24
To be honest i wasnt expecting such a response, i thought be lucky to get enougher interested boat :eek: . Which wouldnt have been to much of a problem, i was dragged up arround the area the local countryside was my childhood playground but no chance with these numbers; which is good :D . Cheers John and Red those campsite sound just the job really, i must admit the the combination appeal to me but if there are several who are complete novices then im not convinced a long second day would be a good idea.
Monington to Ereyford sounds like it could be a winner. Theres lots of places to de bus in hereford form the rowing club down to the otherside of Bishops meadow all with close parking. Thanks for all the input guys sounds like we have the making of a good weekend.
How about a list:
1. Will (jungle_re) Canoe with spare seat + PFD + Paddle
John Fenna
23-12-2008, 12:09
The Rowing club in Hereford sometimes allow you to leave vehicles in their camping field - for a charge - so this is worth checking out as it is reasonably secure parking if daily shuttles are not an option.
Red Kite
23-12-2008, 14:31
1. Will (jungle_re) Canoe with spare seat + PFD + Paddle
2. Stewart (Red Kite) (Date Dependant)
jungle_re
24-12-2008, 09:45
completely open for disscussion but just a more stabble start point.
Dates wise as already said im fairly flexible but i reckon the W/E's comecing the 28th march and the 4th April may be good options; bank holiday is proberly going to be like picadilly circus so id rather avoid but the weekend either side would be fine.... discuse
Looking at the details what are the thoughts on thes 2 possibilities:
1. 2 nighter 2 dayer. Fiday Meet/first night at holybush inn (tis right on the bank) between Glasbury and Hay camp in the woods there and they allow fires. But could sneak to the pub for a pre trip scan and an ale if that what people wanted. Paddle down to Monnington falls/ Preston (i think this may be the camsite alreadu mentioned) new court farm again fire allowed. this is a 19 mile leg. Next day Paddle to Hereford (about 11 miles) stop off for an early picnic lunch possible then mide afternoon finish and home (either the rowing club or Bishops meadow.
2. 3-4 nights 3 days. Thursday night meet (or frday morning) at the Monnington/preston campsite friday paddle to Hereford (11 miles ish), camp at the rowing club (details to be confirmed but ive never seen a fire there) Sat padddle to Hoarwithy (about 17 miles) camp at Tresseck farm (camp fires allowed) Sunday on to Ross (11 miles) get out at the Hope and Anchor for a scoff then home.
Hows does either of them sound? Should get a few longer day trips in before then and get a better appriciation of the distances. John, Stewart do you think this sounds reasonable?
With regards to transport my personnel plan was to get dropped of by a begrudding partner and hope shed pick me up at the end
Humpback
24-12-2008, 10:06
Sorry the w/e 28th March is the Midland Meet date which I'm going to! Also its the Outdoor Show that w/e at the NEC.
Alan
John Fenna
24-12-2008, 10:15
It all sounds do-able to me though I guess the 1st option would be easier to fit around most peoples work etc. The first day may be a little long for some but the water is good on this stretch with a couple of "interesting features" to play on for more experienced paddlers...
Option 2 - the paddle from Hereford to Hoarwithy is quite long and flat - last time I did this with novices we had the second days lunch at Hoarwithy - and if the wind is blowing up river can be tough.
Casual observations only...given dates that work for me I would be well up for either/both!
Red Kite
26-12-2008, 13:01
Totaly agree about the wind John - I did this stretch down to Tressick with my club early in the summer, and the wind was so strong we ended up having to go tandem in order to make headway.
As leave is going to be a bit tight next year I guess option 1 would be best for me, but if you go for the 3 day trip I could always catch up with you Friday night.
Hope you all had a good Christmas
ATB
Stewart
jungle_re
07-01-2009, 13:22
I reckon option 1 is the winner then.
So this doesn't stagnate and we end up doing nothing, i have posted a pole for the dates which will run for 10 days.
Hopefully this will suit a few and arrangement can be made (like speaking to the rowing club etc)
Thanks for all the advice guys, hope this comes off.
Cheers Will
Red Kite
08-01-2009, 11:28
Hi Will
I'll plump for the 28th, but I will probably be able to attend on either date.
Cheers
Stewart
jungle_re
24-01-2009, 20:40
when it looks like and overwhemling majority:rolleyes: have gone for the 28th of March, so the 128th it is.
hopefully should turn out to be a nice relaxing paddle and camp.
Just need to know rough numbers of who will be tipping up.
So a list:
1. Will (spare seat know taken)
2.
bikething
24-01-2009, 21:06
when it looks like and overwhemling majority:rolleyes: have gone for the 28th of March, so the 18th it is.
:confused:
jungle_re
24-01-2009, 21:22
:confused:
you have sucessfully negotiated the first stage, move on to level 2 :lmao:
Whoops edited acordingly tis the curse of the sausage fingers; can we tempt you out on the water?
bikething
24-01-2009, 21:32
Whoops edited acordingly tis the curse of the sausage fingers; can we tempt you out on the water? Put me down as a possible - depending on work / where I am / whether I've got transport as all 3 of our company pool cars are currently in the garage for repairs :rolleyes:
jungle_re
24-01-2009, 21:36
1. Will (spare seat know taken)
2. Bikething Possible
Red Kite
27-01-2009, 15:36
I'm in.
Steve - if you manage to make it do you want to park yourself at the front of mine?
Stewart
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1. Will (spare seat know taken)
2. Bikething Possible
3. Red Kite (Stewart)
John Fenna
27-01-2009, 15:39
Put me down as a possible - I realy dont know this far ahead...work you know....
jungle_re
27-01-2009, 21:28
1. Will (spare seat know taken)
2. Bikething Possible
3. Red Kite (Stewart)
4. John Fena Possible
bikething
27-01-2009, 21:45
when it looks like and overwhemling majority:rolleyes: have gone for the 28th of March, so the 128th it is. .
Have you changed the bleedin' date again??!! :rolleyes:
bikething
27-01-2009, 21:47
Steve - if you manage to make it do you want to park yourself at the front of mine? Stewart, Yes please If I haven't sorted myself out with a canoe and transport by then :)
jungle_re
18-02-2009, 10:20
now have a spare seat in my boat for this
John Fenna
18-02-2009, 10:37
Ooops - just realised that this clashes with the Outdoor show....work for me so I will be in Brum not on the river...sorry!
Red Kite
18-02-2009, 11:52
now have a spare seat in my boat for this
Will
May be worth seeing if anyone is interested at the weekend
Stewart
Sorry for taking a while to respond but I will take up the free seat on the weekend.
jungle_re
25-02-2009, 13:37
welcome aboard
oo found it some one delete my post on the same subject pls lol
should be up for this just need a roof rack. i have an ojibway (takes 900lb) so i should be able to offer a FREE SEAT also paddled 40 miles or so of the wye 2 years ago not as far down as hereford, would like to see some more of it in stead of the same 5 miles i usually paddle ill see if i can find my old post on here it had a link for all campsites on the wye (legit ones that is ) ill edit post if i can find it cheers lyn.
http://www.igreens.org.uk/canoeing_the_wye.htm << lists legit camp sites on the wye
http://www.wyevalleycanoes.co.uk/ << canoe hire in glasbury may be a little high up if wer starting around hereford
http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/getamap/ <<<<<< this is a really good map link click on the big pink button click on wales/builthwels/lower right is hay on why you can follow the river corse all the way to the sea
hope this helps :-=))
just a thought......... if we do start in hay on wye the canoe hire place ive listed above ^ is only 5 miles from hay about 1hr 30 mins on the river so would be an ideal place to rent from.
they may even drop it off in hay for you, but i suggest you familliarise yourself with it on the way down to hay if your not used to canoeing its a gentle section with only 2 or 3 parts where the water actually moves you more than 1-2 miles per hour
the cap park in hay will take 25 cars or so and should be realetivley empty in march i woudnt suggest leaving your car there however, it is after all a town center more or less.
anyone needing a lift from abergavenny train station let me know,or some place to leave a car (but only if you have a space in some one elses canoe or are renting as i cant transport 2 canoes at once)
anything else i can do to help let me know guys and gals went with 4 other ppl last time and it was fun im hopeing its more the merry,r so make an effort and ill do all i can to help
oo no longer a tenderfoot woot me !!!
typical of my life so far this year my luck is poxed...start a new job on friday 13th of march and every weekend there after :eek: so looks like i wont be comming after all
sorry gang
if anything changes ill be there but its looking very doutfull:banghead:
Red Kite
12-03-2009, 10:34
Hi Lyndon
Good luck with the job, shame its put the kybosh on you coming along on the paddle.
Keep an eye out as I'm sure we'll be arranging one or two more through the year
ATB
Stewart
I'm guessing we will be canoeing from one place to another rather than going back on to the same site. So we will be carrying our kit in the canoes. If so could you let me know because I will need to buy a couple of extra dry bags.
jungle_re
20-03-2009, 09:57
yep kit in the canoe dear fellow
jungle_re
20-03-2009, 10:05
1. 2 nighter 2 dayer. Fiday Meet/first night at holybush inn (tis right on the bank) between Glasbury and Hay camp in the woods there and they allow fires. But could sneak to the pub for a pre trip scan and an ale if that what people wanted. Paddle down to Monnington falls/ Preston (i think this may be the camsite alreadu mentioned) new court farm again fire allowed. this is a 19 mile leg. Next day Paddle to Hereford (about 11 miles) stop off for an early picnic lunch possible then mide afternoon finish and home (either the rowing club or Bishops meadow.
this site gives a good break down of the course
http://www.igreens.org.uk/canoeing_the_wye.htm
Cheers for that Will, thought so but I wanted to make sure. Could you give me a address so I can get a route there. Also do they allow hammocks?
Sounds like it should be a good weekend.
jungle_re
20-03-2009, 20:19
the details are in the link mate, i'll have to do asearch and all as im not sure.
just thought ive got a spare barrel you can uses well
Red Kite
23-03-2009, 10:16
I've got a couple of spare bouyancy aids if anyone need to borrow one.
Heres a link to web cams showing river levels on the Wye, The Llanstepan one is above Glasbury, and the Fowhope one is below Hereford.
http://www.wyeuskfoundation.org/conditions/gauge4.php
Cheers
Stewart
bikething
23-03-2009, 20:14
Might have to drop out of this one guys.. I might be getting shipped state-side again to help fix a couple of machines..
will know more as the week progresses..
sorry :o
I might need to borrow a bouyancy aid Stewart, unless Will is including with his spare seat.:p
My car is playing up at the moment and doesn't make good driving. Would I be able to hitch a lift with anyone. I would be able to get to a convienient location en route. And of course I would pay petrol money.
Red Kite
24-03-2009, 11:40
Might have to drop out of this one guys.. I might be getting shipped state-side again to help fix a couple of machines..
will know more as the week progresses..
sorry :o
Once you know for definite let me know - Dave was interested in coming along so if you drop out he may take your place.
Adam
I'll bring a spare bouyancy aid just in case.
I can pick you up, but I'm off visiting family after the trip so wouldn't be able to drop you off.
Theres an industrial site at the M4/M5 junction that would make a good pickup. perhaps Will could brop you off on the way back?
ATB
Stewart
A lift there would be excellent Stewart, thank you very much. What time were you going to go because I won't be able to get there until about 5 I'm guessing. Just say if it doesn't fit with your plans don't worry. I thought that the lay by on the roundabout on the last junction on the English side of the bridge (junction with the M49) may be easier. Google map link:-
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=&daddr=&hl=en&geocode=&mra=mr&ie=UTF8&ll=51.569308,-2.659196&spn=0.003261,0.007939&t=h&z=17
Are hammocks allowed on both of the campsites?
jungle_re
25-03-2009, 08:21
Adam ive got a PFD and Paddle for you bud, and a barrel i would think. Im sure hammock are allowed having somewhere to pitch it is another matter. I'll ring up today.
jungle_re
25-03-2009, 08:30
http://www.hollybushcamping.co.uk/page.php?5 is the first site will ring today, you will be able to use the hammock here as we can stay in the woods, the second site im not sure about yet. Bring a roll mat
Red Kite
25-03-2009, 08:45
A lift there would be excellent Stewart, thank you very much. What time were you going to go because I won't be able to get there until about 5 I'm guessing. Just say if it doesn't fit with your plans don't worry. I thought that the lay by on the roundabout on the last junction on the English side of the bridge (junction with the M49) may be easier. Google map link:-
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=&daddr=&hl=en&geocode=&mra=mr&ie=UTF8&ll=51.569308,-2.659196&spn=0.003261,0.007939&t=h&z=17
Are hammocks allowed on both of the campsites?
Adam
Thats a bit late for me - I should be passing there at about 3 - any chance of you getting off early?
The second campsite is in an orchard so shouldn't be a problem putting a hammock up
ATB
Stewart
I will bring a roll mat just in case.
Doubt I will be able to get there much earlier actually Stewart, but I will confirm tomorrow.
Will - what time are you planning on leaving unless I can get a lift with Steve if he is still going.
Cheers
jungle_re
26-03-2009, 08:38
I'll be going early door mate, going to see the old man in herebored on the way
jungle_re
26-03-2009, 15:13
dont forget your pennies for the camp site either lads.
Ive range and spoke to the holybush inn, its still £6 per night and £1 per canoe launched.
Red Kite
26-03-2009, 18:25
Steve had had to drop out - too much work on. I have left a message for Dave to see if he fancies joining us.
Adam - did you have any luck getting off work early?
No unfortunately I can't because I have been working with someone else and get a lift from them. I have persuaded my Dad to give me a lift up, which means that I will probably arrive at about 6.30. Would it still be ok to hitch a lift back Will?
Could someone PM me their mobile number just in case I can't find you/the campsite.
jungle_re
26-03-2009, 19:02
Yep mate no worries with a lift back, will be going via the old mans place on the way so as long as your in no mega rush. Decked out boat today so now good to go. Ill bring the spare barrel for you to
Red Kite
26-03-2009, 19:52
Adam
I can pick you up at 5 at the roundabout. I'm only leaving London early so I don't get trapped in the Friday night Exodus. I'll just kick my heels in the nearest services for an hour or so.
I'll pm you with my mobile - give me a call to confirm the arrangements.
jungle_re
26-03-2009, 20:22
No Nobbly Dave then?
Red Kite
26-03-2009, 20:26
No Nobbly Dave then?
can't get hold of him. I've left a message on his phone so hopefully he'll get back to me at some stage
jungle_re
26-03-2009, 20:32
Are you bringing the dutch oven?
If you are i'll see if i can dig out a few nicey nicey for a one pot.
Red Kite
27-03-2009, 08:25
Sorry - didn't see this message till I was in the office this morning. Haven't packed the oven travelling light(ish).
Should be there about 3-4pm see you in the woods
Stewart