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woodstock
27-05-2008, 15:26
Has anyone done a group buy for the bush buddy woodgas burning stove as I wanted to purchace one and wanted to know if anyone else was interested
http://www.bushbuddy.ca/
beachlover
27-05-2008, 18:17
I'd be interested, with the usual caveats about price etc etc.
Toadflax
28-05-2008, 10:08
Possibly...I've been thinking about one of these for some time. Problem may be import duty /VAT if several stoves are sent as one package. I understand from the supplier that individual purchases sometimes get through without additional charges, and sometimes don't.
Geoff
squantrill
28-05-2008, 11:44
Has anyone done a group buy for the bush buddy woodgas burning stove as I wanted to purchace one and wanted to know if anyone else was interested
http://www.bushbuddy.ca/
I was thinking about one of these but found them a tad expensive..
However I think this is the same thing, and being in the netherlands and in the eu you would probabaly be better off with regard to importe duties..
these are 69 euros with no tax problems as apposed to 100 Dollars and possibley paying import tax..
Not sure if they are the same though!
http://www.qvist.nl/AA%20ADVERTENTIES/BushCooker.jpg
woodstock
28-05-2008, 15:58
I was thinking about one of these but found them a tad expensive..
However I think this is the same thing, and being in the netherlands and in the eu you would probabaly be better off with regard to importe duties..
these are 69 euros with no tax problems as apposed to 100 Dollars and possibley paying import tax..
Not sure if they are the same though!
http://www.qvist.nl/AA%20ADVERTENTIES/BushCooker.jpg
That almost looks Identical do they have a web site I'll also look in to a group buy price
Toadflax
28-05-2008, 16:13
Have a look at this link: http://lighthiker.wordpress.com/2008/01/07/bushbuddy-bushcooker/ - tells you a bit more about the Bushcooker. Certainly looks very close to a Bushbuddy Clone.
Does anybody know whether we'd pay VAT and import duty if purchasing from the EU and shipping to the UK?
Geoff
woodstock
28-05-2008, 16:37
I've had a look and it looks excellent value works out with shipping about 100 euros and thats with the kettle I have Emailed them in regards to a possible group buy to see what sort of discount they could offer
Indoorsout
28-05-2008, 16:57
http://www.qvistoutdoorcooking.eu/index.htm
Their English page. Looks good :)
looks good I am very interested subject to final details
I was thinking about one of these but found them a tad expensive..
However I think this is the same thing, and being in the netherlands and in the eu you would probabaly be better off with regard to importe duties..
these are 69 euros with no tax problems as apposed to 100 Dollars and possibley paying import tax..
Not sure if they are the same though!
http://www.qvist.nl/AA%20ADVERTENTIES/BushCooker.jpg
In Holland you can buy goods up to 175 euro from the US without paying import taxes.
squantrill
28-05-2008, 23:56
In Holland you can buy goods up to 175 euro from the US without paying import taxes.
Oh thanks never new that ;) maybe thats why all the gear I keep buying slips through hehehehe
squantrill
29-05-2008, 00:00
I've had a look and it looks excellent value works out with shipping about 100 euros and thats with the kettle I have Emailed them in regards to a possible group buy to see what sort of discount they could offer
I can call them from here if you like zwolle is about 20 minutes up the road from my place!! I could pop up and speak face to face and brokarage a deal if you don't get any joy via email l??
let me knoe how you get on
woodstock
29-05-2008, 16:51
I can call them from here if you like zwolle is about 20 minutes up the road from my place!! I could pop up and speak face to face and brokarage a deal if you don't get any joy via email l??
let me knoe how you get on
That would be great I got a e mail back from the company today the price goes down when you order over 5 items unfortunately they are not shipping to the UK or over seas markets until after june july time I personally need one before that so if you send me a note to say what it will cost you to send one to the uk I'll send you the cost beforehand and I can try it before we make a group buy
Thanks for your help
woodstock
02-06-2008, 21:07
I can call them from here if you like zwolle is about 20 minutes up the road from my place!! I could pop up and speak face to face and brokarage a deal if you don't get any joy via email l??
let me knoe how you get on
Did you have any luck contacting the company the ones they have left are for the Dutch market only
cheers
woodstock
07-06-2008, 21:52
Anyone from Holland or the Netherlands could you order me a bush cooker
this one from qvist http://www.qvistoutdoorcooking.eu/Advertenties/BushCooker%20ad.jpg
I will send payment before purchase i need it before the end of June
I've just got a Bushbuddy and used it for the first time last week. Works a treat and uses very little fuel (I boiled a pint of water in 9 minutes-ish using pencil-thick twigs and some birch bark). If the Dutch version is a copy then it looks a good bet.
BTW: I find the the "speed" figures for different heating methods a bit of a false trail. Some gas or alcohol stoves boil quicker than others but use the same or even more fuel to do so - how is this comparable? With a real fire stove you just wait. Who's in a hurry anyway?
woodstock
07-06-2008, 22:29
[ how is this comparable? With a real fire stove you just wait. Who's in a hurry anyway?[/QUOTE]
exactly whats the hurry in the 8 mins it takes to boil Go and get on with other things
There's a nice review of the original Bushbuddy here:
http://www.woodlife.co.uk/page/3/?s=bushbuddy
But if anything the clone looks a little more useful with the handles and little sauce pan lid!
If I didn't already have multiple other cooking devices I'd be getting one. Though I am still tempted...
squantrill
08-06-2008, 19:29
Did you have any luck contacting the company the ones they have left are for the Dutch market only
cheers
Mmm well he told me that they have no stock right now at all this is going to be replenished in August. Right after a bush craft meeting in the UK.. So my guess is that somewhere in the UK somebody else is selling them.. I will give this guy another call in August and see what happens.. sorry about the delay orum has been unavailable for me for a number of days.. not sure why..
Simon
Shambling Shaman
08-06-2008, 20:26
looks good I am very interested subject to final details
Same Hear / cost etc
lavrentyuk
08-06-2008, 20:49
Let me know when they are in...........looks like a very tidy arrangement.
woodstock
08-06-2008, 21:05
Thanks for trying it does sound a little weird I have kept thier Email in which it clearly states that the ones they have left are for thier own market I might just go ahead and see what deal I can get with the Bushbuddy co.
Ps the site has been down here aswell for a few days If you get anymore info let me know
I have found a website for the company that actually manufactures the Bushcooker, rather than qvist who just seem to sell it. Maybe your have more luck getting a deal through them?
http://www.bushcooker.eu/
woodstock
09-06-2008, 00:12
I have found a website for the company that actually manufactures the Bushcooker, rather than qvist who just seem to sell it. Maybe your have more luck getting a deal through them?
http://www.bushcooker.eu/
did you get anymore info other than that one web page I had a look at it before and it just goes to a invoice page with no more details of the company
Not really apart from if you click the ordering link on the main site it opens up this email address:
info@wildeurope.nl
You may as well give it a try.
jonquirk
09-06-2008, 06:30
I did a double-take when I saw the Dutch web page: the pot looks like the Primus Li-Tech trek kettle, which is exactly what I use with my Bushbuddy: The frying pan lid is just the right size to make a bannock with half a cup of bannock mix. I paid £46 for my Bushbuddy, direct from Fritz Handel and the trek kettle is £18 (£20 -10% discount) at Cotswold Outdoors so I'm all kitted up for £64.
woodstock
10-06-2008, 21:47
I did a double-take when I saw the Dutch web page: the pot looks like the Primus Li-Tech trek kettle, which is exactly what I use with my Bushbuddy: The frying pan lid is just the right size to make a bannock with half a cup of bannock mix. I paid £46 for my Bushbuddy, direct from Fritz Handel and the trek kettle is £18 (£20 -10% discount) at Cotswold Outdoors so I'm all kitted up for £64.
It just shows it pays to shop around well done
lostplanet
11-06-2008, 00:27
If you can wait a bit the customs charge limit is rising, you may be able to do a deal with a supplier and not pay any duty on individual buys.
http://www.britishgaming.co.uk/?p=363
I have al;eady started to notice less stuff nearer the limit gettting pulled, maybe the C+E just can't be arsed as much.
jonquirk
11-06-2008, 17:35
My Bushbuddy arrived by post, unmolested by Customs. Fritz packs each stove in a wooden box and wraps that in brown paper. A more uninteresting package (from the outside) you could not wish to find. Of course, once it's open...
squantrill
12-06-2008, 23:13
Not really apart from if you click the ordering link on the main site it opens up this email address:
info@wildeurope.nl
You may as well give it a try.
Think this is the same company, the web design is the same as qvist.. And the guy definalty said he was buying some more from the bushcraft meet in the UK!! anyhow yes thats the primus I have one it contains a simon meths stove at the moment. But I would like to replace it with the woodburner to compliment the trangia meths stove..
woodstock
15-06-2008, 20:46
[QUOTE=squantrill;407890]Think this is the same company, the web design is the same as qvist.. And the guy definalty said he was buying some more from the bushcraft meet in the UK!!
I have e mailed at least 3 times now and had no reply very poor PR I think it may have to be the bushbuddy
woodstock
17-06-2008, 17:50
Just got conformation that my bushbuddy is on the way £51 from Canada
Wallenstein
18-06-2008, 11:11
Just got conformation that my bushbuddy is on the way £51 from Canada
You able to put a review up with some pics once you've had a play with it?
woodstock
18-06-2008, 16:11
My Bushbuddy arrived by post, unmolested by Customs. Fritz packs each stove in a wooden box and wraps that in brown paper. A more uninteresting package (from the outside) you could not wish to find. Of course, once it's open...
How long id yours take to arrive from when you placed your order
woodstock
18-06-2008, 16:15
You able to put a review up with some pics once you've had a play with it?
I would happy to no problem although there are reviews written and also a video on you tube but I would be happy to write a personal review
woodstock
29-06-2008, 01:17
Got the BB today what can I say If you haven't got one get one it is one great bit of kit I have spent a lot more on kit in the past and its been Cr@p this is a great bit of kit and does what it says on the label the guy has a direct connection with his product it tells from the the spiel to the packaging I managed to make a brew in about 7 mins although it was a little windy
the only draw back was the soot but it did wipe of quiet easily
Looks good. How did you manage to get hold of one in the end, I thought they would only sell to the Dutch Market?
woodstock
29-06-2008, 20:53
Looks good. How did you manage to get hold of one in the end, I thought they would only sell to the Dutch Market?
Still no reply from qvist regarding theirs, got one from FH Canada avoided any extra charge as it was sent as a sample and bought the trek cookset from cotswald outdoors
Does the bushbuddy fit inside the trek cookset?
woodstock
30-06-2008, 22:26
Does the bushbuddy fit inside the trek cookset?
Perfectly, I will still look into the possibilities of a group buy I just needed one now so if anyone knows of a uk distributors of the BB if no is doing it i may do it myself
Does the bushbuddy fit inside the trek cookset?
Fits inside beautifully
Primus do two almost identical cook sets- one has the 'waffle' base which works much better and conserves fuel
Perfectly, I will still look into the possibilities of a group buy I just needed one now so if anyone knows of a uk distributors of the BB if no is doing it i may do it myself
Apparently these guys are going to be the UK distributors:
http://www.morgans-of-oswestry.co.uk/
woodstock
01-07-2008, 21:15
Handy tip Bert if I had known they did another I would have gone with yours what is the price difference
Podcast Bob
02-07-2008, 08:11
Best of luck Woodstock.
I've been in contact with Fritz at BB for over a year trying to get him to look at us distributing to the UK market and certainly have promoted the hell out of the BB in the various forums and podcasts I've been involved with.
Not the easiest person to deal with, and as a potential distributor, still thinks it acceptable to sell direct from Canada even though you may have bought 100 in stock and have an agreement signed!
As each one is hand made to a very high standard, I very much doubt he could manufacture enough to satisfy more than a cottage industry demand. However I could be wrong.
The Dutch product is a direct copy and I've already been in discussions with Peter to do exactly the same thing, but in his case the product is made in Poland and he doesn't have much stock each delivery to service the UK. We are still chatting about this though and if it comes off I'll let everyone know.
In the meantime I have been pursuing a 'wood gas' stove project in the UK, and have found it incredibly frustrating to not be able to get anything of a similar quality made here. Getting hold of the material is one thing, knowing how to work it and Plasma weld it is another. The 9 companies I've tried so far, all have admitted they love the unique design, but are more interested in high volume metal bashing, to make it cost effective!
So I'm having to rework it, and see if I can come up with a new design which is less 'sexy', but more suitable for the manufacturing industry we have here. It is any wonder our economy is going down the pan and people who want to have products made, are being forced to look at Eastern Europe or Asia?
I'm off to the European Outdoor trade fair in Friedrichsaven later this month and already the PR is pushing the eco-friendly, green, recycling element in the exhibition. I'll be interested to see if anyone else has anything similar in their 2009 range and will be reporting back in my podcasts to I'm sure, an interested UK audience.
Handy tip Bert if I had known they did another I would have gone with yours what is the price difference
about £28 I think but that is because this pot set actually comes with a gas burner inside that I did not expect! so its a wee bonus - although I use the Primus Multi-fuel burner as well - in some places like Africa you must leave the wood for the locals/nomads to use. I take both - give me the best flexibility.
So the multi fuel is ideal and one heck of a stove.
woodstock
02-07-2008, 21:45
Best of luck Woodstock.
I've been in contact with Fritz at BB for over a year trying to get him to look at us distributing to the UK market and certainly have promoted the hell out of the BB in the various forums and podcasts I've been involved with.
economy is going down the pan and people who want to have products made, are being forced to look at Eastern Europe or Asia?
and will be reporting back in my podcasts to I'm sure, an interested UK audience.
Seems you have it covered Pod let us know how it pans out
about £28 I think but that is because this pot set actually comes with a gas burner inside that I did not expect! so its a wee bonus - although I use the Primus Multi-fuel burner as well - in some places like Africa you must leave the wood for the locals/nomads to use. I take both - give me the best flexibility.
So the multi fuel is ideal and one heck of a stove.
We might do that one as a group buy and leave Pod with the BB dilema
squantrill
24-07-2008, 20:57
Bugger I bought one it arrived 1 day before my holiday took just under two weeks.. fits in the primus kettle a treat and the trangia burner fits to.. Hope to try it this week..
What a great looking piece of kit!
I really liked the look of the bush buddy and as this thread appeared to have stalled abit I decided to order one direct from Canada, just collected it from the post office and it looks a great bit of kit very well made and quite compact. I will have a play later this afternoon, its too hot to be playing with fire at the moment!! .
I also however had a £15.44 customs charge (£8 of which was admin fee for the post office) to pay on top of the cost of the BB, I know it can be abit hit and miss who and when you get charged but you may wish to factor it in to costing considrations if anyone else orders direct.
woodstock
13-08-2008, 01:52
I contacted the site in the Netherlands again still no feedback have used my bushbuddy a no of times now with great effect it is a great bit of kit I just don't know why he is reluctant to let others sell it for him.if anyone has tips or hints on things they found worked please post
I contacted the site in the Netherlands again still no feedback have used my bushbuddy a no of times now with great effect it is a great bit of kit I just don't know why he is reluctant to let others sell it for him.if anyone has tips or hints on things they found worked please post
I've contacted him before I went to the Moot. Due to holidays (as said on the website) they could only reply somwhere in the first week of August ... So he did ...
He does the Bushbuddy (available per end of August) for around 67 Euro. (That's including the 10% discount you get when you order and pay now, and receive when the Bb is available.
:confused:
squantrill
13-08-2008, 11:39
I've contacted him before I went to the Moot. Due to holidays (as said on the website) they could only reply somwhere in the first week of August ... So he did ...
He does the Bushbuddy (available per end of August) for around 67 Euro. (That's including the 10% discount you get when you order and pay now, and receive when the Bb is available.
:confused:
Got jarred off waiting for qvist ordered direct from fritz cost including postage 63 euros