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I'm having trouble finding a big kettle that I could use over a fire. Ideally some sort of cast iron affair with 6 pint or more capacity, but I suppose stainless steel or aluminium could be considered. Has anyone got any ideas where I might find one? Thanks.
as a result of Red's help on another thread here I recently bought one of these - http://www.procook.co.uk/shop/Drinks/Kettles-HobTop/d37/sd241?code=1423 and it works great on an open fire - though to be fair it isn't all shiney now! ;)
well worth the money I say! :D
Globetrotter.uk
21-05-2008, 13:51
Would a large teapot used for hotels etc do?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GIANT-CATERING-TEAPOT_W0QQitemZ310052323141QQ ihZ021QQcategoryZ122942QQssPag eNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
like this one
Try these, good service, no connection etc
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http://armytents.co.uk/index.php?page=2&act=viewCat&catId=5
Why not just use your billy?
Cheers all. Just ordered one in steve a's link above. Funnily enough I ordered one from Ebay that looked just like that only when it arrived it was something different entirely with a plastic handle. Phoned them up to make sure it had a metal handle, so all should be OK.
@maver - there's 6 or 7 of us and we want to have hot water on tap.
@maver - there's 6 or 7 of us and we want to have hot water on tap.
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Good that you are sorted, their big iron frying pans are good for a group fry up as well !!!!
Hmmm. Not sorted. Just had a phone call to say that all the kettles have all plastic handles so I've had to cancel. Still looking. Might have to get a big billy and a ladel. I'd prefer a kettle though.
PJMCBear
22-05-2008, 10:29
Look for Ronnie Sunshines, he has a store on EBAY as well as his own site. I bought a enamel cowboy cookset of him for about £20, 4 cups, plates, large billy and the all important large coffee pot. It's the dogs for that constant hot water need.
No connection to them, etc.
what about a 16cm zebra biilly kettle
I have one of those. Now if it were a 24cm zebra kettle we might be in business.
Actually, I don't know the volume of the zebra kettle, I'll have to measure it.
i find that a big billy can is just easier than a kettle, but its watever floats ur boat tho aint it
Surrey Yeoman
02-06-2008, 14:23
Try these, good service, no connection etc
bottom of page
http://armytents.co.uk/index.php?page=2&act=viewCat&catId=5
Just ordered one of the 10 pint "catering" kettles from these people - interesting that the web address says "Armytents," the website itself is labelled as "Europlus" and the lady answered to phone as "Thatchreed Ltd." Confused!
Anyway, looking at the picture of the kettle on the website it looks like the handle is made of metal after all with just the hand grip and the knob on the lid made of plastic. That's what I'm expecting and I plan to replace the grip and knob with hardwood items more suited to the campfire. I plan to incorporate a hanging ring on the handle at the point of balance too.
I'll let you know how I get on.
you could use a modified beer keg, those kegs with integrated co2 capsule should work(after removing the tap system off course) , a inbev "perfect draft" keg is made a bit more solid and costs about 5 euros in the netherlands(witouth the beer off course)....
don't know wether they sell those kegs in the uk.......
Just ordered one of the 10 pint "catering" kettles from these people - interesting that the web address says "Armytents," the website itself is labelled as "Europlus" and the lady answered to phone as "Thatchreed Ltd." Confused!
Anyway, looking at the picture of the kettle on the website it looks like the handle is made of metal after all with just the hand grip and the knob on the lid made of plastic. That's what I'm expecting and I plan to replace the grip and knob with hardwood items more suited to the campfire. I plan to incorporate a hanging ring on the handle at the point of balance too.
I'll let you know how I get on.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
See my quoted post below:
Hmmm. Not sorted. Just had a phone call to say that all the kettles have all plastic handles so I've had to cancel. Still looking. Might have to get a big billy and a ladel. I'd prefer a kettle though.
No Zerba billy kettles over 16cm though
http://www.zebra-head.com/en/product/lstProductDetail.asp?groupid=0 000000064&haveSubCategory=false&subcategoryid=0000000006&categoryid=
Though a 16cm diameter and 18cm high has to be close to 6 pints..
(8 * 8 * pi * 18) * (cubic centimeters) = 6.36874895 Imperial pints
Ah. I've got a 14cm kettle. For some reason I thought it was 16cm. The 14cm kettle holds 3 pints with half an inch to spare at the top.
I think I'm going to have to look for a 16cm kettle.
Edit to add I've just ordered a 16cm Zebra kettle from Ebay. Cheers for the volume calc Jared, it should be just the ticket.
(7 * 7 * pi * 14) * (cubic centimeter) = 3.79250155 Imperial pints
Is the 16cm kettle 18cm high? The height isn't listed on zebra's site, the 18cm I used was from the billy can, assumed they were basically the same thing, just with a spout.
If its only 16cm..
(8 * 8 * pi * 16) * (cubic centimeter) = 5.66111018 Imperial pints
The 14cm kettle looks to be about 13.5cm tall and I estimate I filled it to about 12cm. The 14cm value looks like it's an outer diameter too, and there's a little reduction due to the internal radius at the bottom where the side meets the base, although I suppose that's compensated slightly by the spout. Using a height of 12 cm gives a theoretical volume of 3¼ pints, so a little over estimate.
I reckon I'll get 5½ pints in the 16cm, but will report back when it arrives.
Crikey - this turned out a bit complicated for a kettle thread. I'm sure it'll make a lovely brew! :D
Reporting back. I can get 5 pints in the 16cm Zebra kettle. The spout's set a bit down from the top of the kettle, which means you can't fill it right to the top like you would with a billy can. 5 pints should be plenty and the kettle's a good solid construction and should fare better than the bigger aluminium ones I had been looking at.
Tor helge
10-06-2008, 08:54
Sounds like you need one of these http://www.naturmagasinet.no/eagle-sharp-balkjele-p-15.html
The largest one (bottom) is 4 litres, and made for use on a fire. The price is 40£.
I don`t know if they will ship to UK.
Tor
Surrey Yeoman
11-06-2008, 18:49
Well, as per the warning by Scanker, the kettle came with all plastic handles, not metal with a plastic grip as per the photo on the website...........Bugger!
Never mind says I. Thirty minutes later the plastic knob on the kettle had been replaced with a wooden one and the 'orrible plastic handle had been replaced with a section of 15mm copper pipe.
I can't post images 'coz I'm not a full member, but look here in my gallery to see how it looks.
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/index.php/Gallery.html
Maybe one of the full members would be so kind as to post it on the thread?
I know the copper handle is gonna get hot, but then again, so would a steel one! I might get round to putting a wooden grip on it, but then again, I might just use a rag or a pair of gloves when I lift it.............
Here it is. You don't need to be a full member, just know the dark arts: :D
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/Kettle1.JPG
Nice job. Looks a very practical solution. Will there be any reaction between the two different metals?
Sounds like you need one of these http://www.naturmagasinet.no/eagle-sharp-balkjele-p-15.html
The largest one (bottom) is 4 litres, and made for use on a fire. The price is 40£.
I don`t know if they will ship to UK.
Tor
These eagle kettles are very nice indeed, have drunk a lot of coffee from these this year.
Nice solution Yeoman!
Well, as per the warning by Scanker, the kettle came with all plastic handles, not metal with a plastic grip as per the photo on the website...........Bugger!
Never mind says I. Thirty minutes later the plastic knob on the kettle had been replaced with a wooden one and the 'orrible plastic handle had been replaced with a section of 15mm copper pipe.
I can't post images 'coz I'm not a full member, but look here in my gallery to see how it looks.
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/index.php/Gallery.html
Maybe one of the full members would be so kind as to post it on the thread?
I know the copper handle is gonna get hot, but then again, so would a steel one! I might get round to putting a wooden grip on it, but then again, I might just use a rag or a pair of gloves when I lift it.............
Why copper might I ask? It would be one of the worst metals for getting hot from the water.
Probably just what was to hand.
Surrey Yeoman
12-06-2008, 12:25
Probably just what was to hand.
Exactly that! It was what I had kicking about in the shed and it was easy to form. If I'd had a bit of aluminium I'd have probably used that, but copper was all I had.
As for the metals reacting together, I dunno. I know steel and ally will react when wet, with the ally corroding away, but I don't know about ally and copper. The manufacturers had used steel nuts and machine screws to fix on the plastic handles, so it can't be too much of an issue?
Any boffins out there care to comment on the aluminium / steel / copper combination?
Surrey Yeoman
17-06-2008, 12:35
....and not being one to sit around doing nothing when I'm at home,
I give you the Surrey Yeoman Tripod / Pot Hanger!
Made from three of the steel pins you see holding up that orange plastic mesh temporary fencing on building sites. Three pins @ £2.50 each from a local builders' merchant, plus a 2" key ring that I had laying about. The chain is something else from the shed and the hooks on the chain are bent galvanised nails. Total cost, under eight quid! If you wanted to save weight, I believe you can get them in aluminium.
I had to drill a 5mm hole between the folds of the metal at the top to accommodate the keyring top link.
Should last for decades!
Pic 1 - the general view
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN1314.JPG
Pic 2 - close up of top link
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN1313.JPG
Pic 3 - hanging chain detail (sorry it's a bit blurred)
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN1315.JPG
Pic 4 - hanging neatly away!
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN1316.JPG
I thank you!
Great idea with the keyring. Where do you find a 2 inch one? I'll have to copy that idea - we currently have a long chain that we loop round and around the pins, but that's a far neater solution.
fast but dim
17-06-2008, 19:01
....and not being one to sit around doing nothing when I'm at home,
I give you the Surrey Yeoman Tripod / Pot Hanger!
Made from three of the steel pins you see holding up that orange plastic mesh temporary fencing on building sites. Three pins @ £2.50 each from a local builders' merchant, plus a 2" key ring that I had laying about. The chain is something else from the shed and the hooks on the chain are bent galvanised nails. Total cost, under eight quid! If you wanted to save weight, I believe you can get them in aluminium.
I had to drill a 5mm hole between the folds of the metal at the top to accommodate the keyring top link.
Should last for decades!
Pic 1 - the general view
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN1314.JPG
Pic 2 - close up of top link
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN1313.JPG
Pic 3 - hanging chain detail (sorry it's a bit blurred)
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN1315.JPG
Pic 4 - hanging neatly away!
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN1316.JPG
I thank you!
you are a genius!!!!!:You_Rock_
Surrey Yeoman
17-06-2008, 19:07
Scanker,
I picked up a handful of 2" keyrings at a boot sale many years ago. Alas, I've used them up on various "projects" over the years and this was my last one. Shouldn't be too hard to turn one up from somewhere though - I'd try key cutters or an Ironmonger's shop.
Failing that, a 2" loop of thick fencing wire, twisted firmly together should do the trick!
fast but dim,
Thank-you for your kind words!