View Full Version : StarCocoon Hammock Sleepng Bag".
wanderinstar
19-04-2008, 12:29
New product, new name.
Right an all enveloping bag that combines the qualities of the underblanket and quilt. It will be made from same materials as U/B and quilt.But the insulation will be Softie 6 instead of Softie 9. It will however have Reflectatherm built in to bring it back up to same spec but lighter. It will have 2 loops at each end to fasten to hammock rings. The top closure will be by full length zip. The zip will be able to zip down from the top and up from the bottom. So leaving an adjustable size hole for your face.
It should be lighter than U/B and Quilt combined.
Well that is the spec. Will be contacting Snugpak next week for a sample and cost.
Anyone interested?
Im not sure I understand how this works. Does the 'underblanket' base still go beneath the hammock meaning that the hammock is passed through the cocoon or does the whole cocoon go above the hammock similar to a sleeping bag?
If passed through wouldn't the edges of the hammock hold the top blanket away from you creating a space and affecting heat retention?
Dougster
19-04-2008, 13:43
I believe this will go both under and over the hammock as in a Cocoon, acting as underblanket and quilt.
Due to the height of the sides of the hammock I would have thought it would be possible to get another bag in if you needed and if not then have extra room in the summer. It would also mean you could get dressed in the warmth of the cocoon.
A great alround idea that I will watch with interest, the biggest factor for me will be the price tag
I've not got any imagination so would need to see a piccy!
wanderinstar
19-04-2008, 14:10
Dougster, you have the idea. Will have to be careful with width measurements, as this will obviously mean it will be too tight or have too much room above . But still air is an insulator and with the Reflectatherm it should make it quite toasty. In deep winter you could also use your u.b and quilt inside. But I MEAN deep winter.
Ian, sounds interesting, couple of things, you say the zips will allow you to create a hole for your face, if the top of the cuccoon is above the sides of the hammock are you going to be able to put your face through it, won't it be too far away and if left zipped closed would the material breath or is condensation likely to build up inside in winter. not citisizing just want to get a better picture of the finished product.
I'm interested in this, though since I'm a hammock virgin I'll need to wait until at least next weekend when I can make a complete fool of myself attempting to put it up to know how well it'll suit me.
litefoot
19-04-2008, 14:38
Sounds interesting Ian,I look forward to seeing how this developes.Good luck with it and thanks for the work you put in for the rest of us.
Litefoot:)
wanderinstar
19-04-2008, 14:46
Alan,
If the zip is left closed, you will get condensation inside. The idea of it opening from the middle is to accommodate different heights and sleeping positions.I have seen one of these zips on a certain hammock. The idea is to have a hole above your face, not have your face stuck out. You would get cold choppers that way.
right, got a better idea of what you mean now ian, will keep a close eye on this, could be just the ticket to reducing my kit weight.
So, will it be a little bit like an extra-wide underblanket that you can zip the sides together to make a cocoon in colder weather?
Dougster
19-04-2008, 17:03
So, will it be a little bit like an extra-wide underblanket that you can zip the sides together to make a cocoon in colder weather?
Oooh - succinct. Nicely put.
wanderinstar
19-04-2008, 17:14
Basically, yes. But with the added bonus of Reflectatherm for that bit extra.
Thanks for explaining sounds a great idea!
I'm getting it now. I take it those hammocks with mossie nets would either have to be reversed or the net slept on?
wanderinstar
19-04-2008, 18:11
Yes, thats right I'm afraid. Seperate mozzie net ala Magikelly would be needed.
Sounds like a good idea Ian. Sadly I won't be able to use it with my Hennesey.....
So if anybody has an underblanket & quilt combo and wants to sell it now that there is an alternative ...... drop me a PM!
Simon
I'm getting it now. I take it those hammocks with mossie nets would either have to be reversed or the net slept on?
The good thing is when it's cold enough that you'd need to use it, you don't need a mossie net.
Will be very interested in seeing the end design.
Interested in this- sounds like it could be rather useful, is it similar to either of these?
http://www.speerhammocks.com/Products/PeaPod.htm
http://www.jacksrbetter.com/index_files/Large%20Quilts.htm
Humpback
28-04-2008, 17:41
Wanderingstar
Interested but sadly my Henessy precludes!
Good luck with the project.
Alan
PS the built in ridge line is the problem really, not the mosquito net, so I can't "reverse" it
littlebiglane
28-04-2008, 19:31
might be interested. price depending.
thanks
LBL
wentworth
29-04-2008, 07:38
Some people on hammockforums.net have snipped their Hennessy ridgeline and rejoined it with a carabiner. This allows them to unclip the ridge and flip the netting to the underside of the hammock.
I personally feel this is a waste, as a top loading hammock can be made within half an hour with no sewing.
However, this would allow a sleeping bag to surround a hennessy.
Matt Weir
29-04-2008, 10:35
The good thing is when it's cold enough that you'd need to use it, you don't need a mossie net.
I'm not so sure about that Andy :cool: especially about this time when it's warm enough in the morning and evening for the buggers to come out but there's still that chill factor in the wee hours to fully warrant an underblanket.
Saying that I have the GB hammock and GB net and together with my homemade underblanket I tend to use them these days rather than my DD so it's all a bit of a moot point for me but I'm interested to keep abreast of hammocking developments :D
I'm not so sure about that Andy :cool: especially about this time when it's warm enough in the morning and evening for the buggers to come out but there's still that chill factor in the wee hours to fully warrant an underblanket.
Saying that I have the GB hammock and GB net and together with my homemade underblanket I tend to use them these days rather than my DD so it's all a bit of a moot point for me but I'm interested to keep abreast of hammocking developments :D
You're right Matt, but I meant cold enough to want to totally cocoon yourself :D - admittedly most mornings for me - even up here it's fine now with the regular underblanket and quilt - and the midgies have only started rising.
wanderinstar
03-05-2008, 18:29
Well, sadly there does not seem to be enough interest at the moment. So will put this on the back burner till later on in the year. May resurrect it in the Autumn. To those people who have shown an interest, thank you.
wentworth
04-05-2008, 09:49
This may sound odd, but perhaps enough interest hasn't been shown because the thread title doesn't tell people what the group buy is? Maybe its easily past over? Just a thought. I for one am looking forward to seeing the finished result.
wanderinstar
04-05-2008, 10:33
Maybe your right Aris. But at the moment I have other more important issues to deal with. I still have to pay out the initial cost of bag, for Snugpak to make sample. So when I resurrect this project I will bear that in mind.
Ian,
Prob' too late now, as I had not seen, but I would be interested in this project. Please do take it up later in the year, as saw something similar in the states last year. That one was a bit bulky though, if this uses reflectatherm it should be alot smaller packed.
Cheers,
Mark.
firebreather
06-05-2008, 23:06
Right thats it I am going to have to start paying more attention to stuff again. I totally missed this thread until now. I have been thinking about an idea like this for a while. So would be very interested depending on price and stuff.
How is the sample coming on ?
Greg
popped my cherry last weekend swinging from two trees so now I'm interested in a cocoon. Price dependent of course...
jon
bushwacker bob
07-05-2008, 00:29
popped my cherry last weekend swinging from two trees
jon
Well that adds a whole new dimension!!!!:naughty: :naughty: :naughty:
wanderinstar
16-06-2008, 18:38
Just been to see Snugpak re prototype. Bet you all thought I had given up with the idea. Prototype should be ready in 2-3 weeks.
Interested depending on price.
litefoot
17-06-2008, 16:33
You are a tease!
Litefoot.:)
Graham_S
06-07-2008, 15:26
Right then.
For the third year in a row I'm playing guinea pig.
All things going according to plan, I'll have the prototype at the Moot for interested parties to have a look at.
Anyone wants to see it, give me a shout.
I'll be the one in a swannie wearing a leather hat carrying a knife ;)
Gailainne
06-07-2008, 16:06
Right then.
For the third year in a row I'm playing guinea pig.
All things going according to plan, I'll have the prototype at the Moot for interested parties to have a look at.
Anyone wants to see it, give me a shout.
I'll be the one in a swannie wearing a leather hat carrying a knife ;)
And a watchface that will blind you at 10 paces :cool:
could be tempted dependent on price.
wanderinstar
24-07-2008, 17:25
Don't think it will be ready for Moot, I'm afraid. Snugpak have been snowed under just lately.
I'll add my mark to the list of interested parties (with usual caveats of course!), I've spent ages reading back over the forums since I've joined and I totally missed this as well. But it sounds good and beats ordering something from the US and fighting with customs etc,
kiltedpict
29-07-2008, 09:45
I too would be interested to see the prototype, sound like a good idea...
KP
Nohoval_Turrets
29-07-2008, 10:08
I'm certainly interested if the price is half way reasonable. It would certainly simplify things - no sleeping mat slipping out of position all the time, and no separate underblanket.
I'd be interested in a couple.
Usual caveats regarding price and... bla, bla, bla...
The Cumbrian
02-08-2008, 22:44
I'd be interested in a couple.
Usual caveats regarding price and... bla, bla, bla...
What he said.
Cheers, Michael.
The Cumbrian
10-08-2008, 17:53
I take it all back, knock me off this one.
Sorry for being a nuisance, Michael.
wanderinstar
15-08-2008, 17:09
No problem Micheal. Haven't even started a list yet.
wanderinstar
21-08-2008, 19:36
Still no prototype I'm afraid. Apparently they are mowed out with work, so I will just have to wait. But things are still moving, very slowly at moment.
Will keep you all informed of any further developments.
very interested too, looking forward to seeing a prototype
cheers
cub
PJMCBear
02-09-2008, 09:29
Very interested Ian, especially if it's of the same build quality as my superb underblanket.
yep definately interested in this are we any nearer to a picture yet thank you
wanderinstar
02-09-2008, 21:16
Afraid not at the moment. Still waiting to hear back from Snugpak. Apparently factory manager has been busy last two days interviewing more staff. They are that busy. Will try him again tomorrow.
I have seen this thread today for the very first time and I am very interested, too
wanderinstar
08-09-2008, 20:04
Finally got an answer from Snugpak. Spoke to the MD today and they have a massive order on for some European government. So lil old me will have to wait. I can fully understand there reasoning. He said it would be beginning of October before they could even start on prototype.
If I hear anything else I will let you all know.
Ian, just a heads up.
I have 3 of the Magikelly hammocks... and 2 underblankets. I might be interested in one of these (as twice recently I have had to be the one with no underblanket, and a reflective windscreen cover!)
wanderinstar
08-09-2008, 22:07
Hi Steve,
It sounds like you need a couple of quilts in the meantime.:)
Just so I don't make a mistake.........
Is this the same as the U/B group buy that I just stuck my name down for, please?
wanderinstar
12-09-2008, 23:04
No Dave this is for a sleeping bag to go round the hammock. Sort of combined quilt and underblanket. But the prototype isn't ready yet, so this will probably be a long haul.
wanderinstar
22-10-2008, 19:09
Great news. Should have the Coccoon by a week next Friday. Just in time to try it out at Middlewood. so if anyone wants to see it, hot of the quilter, get down to Middlewood.
wanderinstar
23-10-2008, 19:26
Called in at Snugpak today, as they had a mock up to try. I know I was fully clothed and it was in a factory environment. But I was only in it for about 30 secs and I was starting to get a lather on. It didn't even have the Reflectatherm in. Am really looking forward to this one. Looks like it will be definitly ready for Middlewood.:)
korvin karbon
23-10-2008, 19:45
Called in at Snugpak today, as they had a mock up to try. I know I was fully clothed and it was in a factory environment. But I was only in it for about 30 secs and I was starting to get a lather on. It didn't even have the Reflectatherm in. Am really looking forward to this one. Looks like it will be definitly ready for Middlewood.:)
quit telling us, show us we want pics LOL
look forward to seeing it completed.
wanderinstar
04-11-2008, 14:26
Finally picked it up. Will try and get some photos of it laid out flat tonight. (nowhere to hang hammock indoors) Will also try to get weight.
wanderinstar
05-11-2008, 21:00
Ok. the weight is 1.72kg. here are some photos, hopefully.
Well thats all 4 options in Photobucket, and i haven't got a photo out of any of them. Help somebody, pleease.
In Photobucket, just under each picture there are 4 options - you want the one labelled "Direct link". Copy the contents of the box, then go back to BcUK and select "Go Advanced".
At the top of the dialogue box is a square with what looks like 2 triangles pointing upwards and a square in the top right corner. Click it and a dialogue box opens.
In this box is "http://" - delete it and then right click your mouse once - select "Paste" from the options. This should put the URL of your picture into the box.
Click OK.
Hopefully your picture will be in the post once you submit it!
HTH
Simon
Looks snug :D
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t129/wanderinstar/Cocoon4.jpg
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t129/wanderinstar/Cocoon3.jpg
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t129/wanderinstar/Cocoon2.jpg
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t129/wanderinstar/Cocoon1.jpg
EDIT: Sorry Simon, I hadn't realised that you'd posted. Photobucket and my system don't like each other and it took 'an age' to go in and out for each shot.
wanderinstar
05-11-2008, 22:15
Well there you have it or should I say them. Will try get out at w/end and get some shots with hammock.
Simon, I thought it was just a case of clicking on the insert image box in top bar and then paste address in box provided. Us younguns don't understand all this technology, need help from our elders
Well there you have it or should I say them. Will try get out at w/end and get some shots with hammock.
Simon, I thought it was just a case of clicking on the insert image box in top bar and then paste address in box provided. Us younguns don't understand all this technology, need help from our elders
Looking at the links it looks like it had extra http:// on the begining, I'm guessing the insert immage box has that part already, try it by deleing the initial "http://" before pasting your link in.
wanderinstar
06-11-2008, 05:43
Cheers Glen, that seemed to work. Thanks.
Spikey DaPikey
06-11-2008, 15:06
Agghhhhh !! Pod people !! :nana:
That does look v.warm :)
dean4442
06-11-2008, 15:51
OOOH a shiny thing!:D
I'd like one of them (as long as the wife lets me that is)
Colin
Stuart69
06-11-2008, 18:41
Could you add me to the "very interested" list too please.
Stuart.
redandshane
07-11-2008, 08:43
Looks interesting
Be nice to hear how it performs especially in cold conditions
Any idea on price?
I have been watching this thread since it started so its nice to see the product
Fair play mate
I had a quick look so forgive me if they're already up, but what are the dimensions of the Cocoon?
wanderinstar
09-11-2008, 17:55
Due to bad weather this weekend I was unable to get out with hammock and Cocoon. so i slung it in attic. Due to bannister and not too secure hooks I had to pack hammock with pillows . Here are the photos.
Can't add this picture. The Cocoon is in black stufsac and the Underblanket plus GB hammock and tapes is in green stufsac.
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t129/wanderinstar/Cocoon%20Bag/Cocoon0.jpg
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t129/wanderinstar/Cocoon%20Bag/Cocoon4.jpg[/MG]
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t129/wanderinstar/Cocoon%20Bag/Cocoon7.jpg
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t129/wanderinstar/Cocoon%20Bag/Cocoon14.jpg
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t129/wanderinstar/Cocoon%20Bag/Cocoon6.jpg
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t129/wanderinstar/Cocoon%20Bag/Cocoon8.jpg
I did have a little helper.
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t129/wanderinstar/Cocoon%20Bag/Cocoon10.jpg
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t129/wanderinstar/Cocoon%20Bag/Cocoon11.jpg
This image shows how much material is left under hammock.
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t129/wanderinstar/Cocoon%20Bag/Cocoon12.jpg
w00dsmoke
09-11-2008, 20:40
What are the maximum internal dimensions of the cocoon? Width and Length and does it unzip fully to convert into a quilt?
w00dmoke
wanderinstar
09-11-2008, 21:19
No it does not unzip fully. It is 10ft long and 5ft 6in in circumference at widest point.
Could you add me to the "very interested" list too please.
Stuart.
Me too!!:)
wanderinstar
10-11-2008, 18:57
Will be getting a review done this weekend.
The question people are asking. It will cost inc delivery and PPcharges, £78.79.
woods_man
20-11-2008, 22:20
Hi, can you put me down for one,
Thanks
Peter..
Woods_man
wentworth
21-11-2008, 08:22
Looks great, Ian. I have enough hammock gear, but I am sorely tempted by this thing. If it can be used without another quilt inside (as in, not too much dead air space) I'm in.
wanderinstar
21-11-2008, 14:39
Well someone had it out last night and will be out again tonight, hopefully it should be cold enough tonight to thoroughly test it. Preliminary reports seem good.
Wentworth, you shouldn't need another quilt inside it unless it is extremly cold. How cold does it get in Australia:D
wanderinstar
23-11-2008, 13:36
Well I have just spoken to the person doing the review. He was out Thursday night and last night. He will be putting a review in the Review section on here tomorrow. But from what he tells me he was plenty warm enough.
BBBBRRRRRRRRRR I was freezing.:eek:
ONLY JOKING:D
Go to the review forum now and have a look at what I thought of the Cocoon.:cool:
I wont ruin the review, but basically, I am now adding my name to the group buy. (Yes Ian wants it back off me for someone else to have a go with) But not a problem as I am looking forward to receiving a "Green" cocoon.:D
yes please put me down for one!
Let me know how and when to pay please.
wanderinstar
24-11-2008, 13:56
Thank you very much for the review Ian. Think I have all the photos posted now.
Shall I start the list now or do you want to wait while Graham S has had chance to give his opinions?
Please put my name down for one. Let me know how much, how and when to pay, please! Winter months look to be warmer and more comfortable as a result of this!
Canalvoyageur
24-11-2008, 15:55
Hi, would you please put me down as a definite for group buy for the Snugpak Cocoon Hammock Sleeping Bag, as shown in review, this is a genuine request, please just let me know when how to pay.
Regards Bill
littlebiglane
24-11-2008, 17:44
Hi - do we have a cost for this yet. Sorry..being dim.
Any idea on the weight and size of it in stuff sack. Cheers.
Will be getting a review done this weekend.
The question people are asking. It will cost inc delivery and PPcharges, £78.79.
Here you go Littlebiglane,
I'm having one!
Any idea on the weight and size of it in stuff sack. Cheers.
I second this question! Any ideas? I know I've signed up for one but I'd still like to know how much room it's going to take up in my pack.:o
Sign me up Ian... I have one.
Simon
Tilley & addo, I have just answered some questions on the review section they should give you the info you are after.
I don`t need one, I don`t need one, I DON`T NEED ONE
Shewie, You are quite right, you dont need one.
But I will let you have a try of mine at the Jan meet and then you will NEED one.:D
Mmmm toasty toasty very very toasty, I'm very toasty.
littlebiglane
24-11-2008, 19:04
Here you go Littlebiglane,
I'm having one!
Thank you sir!
wanderinstar
24-11-2008, 19:38
Ok, then. I will just refresh the details. Total cost,including PP charges and delivery charge, is £78.79. It weighs 1.72kg (heavy bag of sugar:D ). If people add there name to the list as per other Group Buys (copy and paste). When list gets to 30 I will ask for names and addresses, and the payment. I will then place the order with Snugpak and await delivery, normally 2-3 weeks. someone asked for pack size. I have a photo of the Coccoon on the left in black stufsac and my underblanket,MK hammock plus crabs and suspension tapes is on the right.
http://s159.photobucket.com/albums/t129/wanderinstar/Cocoon%20Bag/th_Cocoon0.jpg
I will start the list off with the people who have said above that they want one . If I have put you on the list by mistake, speak up. Also any more questions, just ask and i will do my best to answer.
In Wood
Tiley
oetzi
Canalvoyageur
Sapper 1
Simon M
Littlebiglane
woods_man
24-11-2008, 20:49
hi, can you put me down for one!
Thanks
Woods_man
In Wood
Tiley
oetzi
Canalvoyageur
Sapper 1
Simon M
Littlebiglane
Glen
Woods_man ( added as they missed the instructions but asked to be on just after them)
In Wood
Tiley
oetzi
Canalvoyageur
Sapper 1
Simon M
Littlebiglane
Glen
Woods_man
tykent
Go on then Ws i'll give it a go
In Wood
Tiley
oetzi
Canalvoyageur
Sapper 1
Simon M
Littlebiglane
Glen
Woods_man
tykent
Bodge
The Cumbrian
25-11-2008, 06:18
Morning WS. Is there any chance of having them made with a green outer, rather than black?
Would anyone else prefer this? My interest is definitely reignited in these after seeing the pics and review.
From the other thread I think that's the plan. Unless of course the trialed one has just been used inside out!
I'll have one, please.
In Wood
Tiley
oetzi
Canalvoyageur
Sapper 1
Simon M
Littlebiglane
Glen
Woods_man
tykent
Bodge
Karl5
I spoke with Wanderinstar today, the batch being made will be made black inside and green outside.
You are correct that the one I trialed was the other way round but that is how that one was made up.
I asked for mine specifically to be green outside, I prefere the green outer, but both my wife and I noticed it seemed to warm up quicker with the black on the inside.(we tried it inside out just to see how it would look and feel). So they are all being made up that way.
wanderinstar
25-11-2008, 17:37
Yes they will ALL be black inside and green outside.In order to get some out to people before Christmas I have stuck my neck out and ordered 15 to be made up. This goes very much against the grain, because if things go mammary glands skywards, to quote Spam, I will be left with a large bill and a very bleak Christmas.
So there are 12 people on the list at the moment, if they PM me with full name and address I will then PM back with PP details. The next 3 people who can pay by PP will be lucky. Everyone else may have to wait till after Christmas. I will not close Group Buy until 30 people have ordered. If I get the 30 names before end of week, I will ask if they can be done before Christmas.
Born Slippy
25-11-2008, 18:00
please put me do for one,they look a great bit of kit
littlebiglane
25-11-2008, 18:16
How bad does the condensation on the inside?
wanderinstar
25-11-2008, 18:32
According to In Wood . He tried not using the ridgeline and felt some condensation on his face, this was with bag fully shut up. You could leave the zip open over your face. That was my original intention when I besigned it. However Ian says that with the ridgeline in, it keeps top of bag off your face , it also holds the hole at rhe head end slightly open so allowing condensation to escape.
I can only go on what ian has said because I haven't had it out yet. Hope that helps.
In Wood
Tiley
oetzi
Canalvoyageur
Sapper 1 PAID
Simon M
Glen
Woods_man PAID
tykent
Bodge
Karl5
Born Slippy PAID
Yep, as Wandrinstar said, with the cocoon fully shut and no ridge line in I was not happy about the condensation build up, but this was right in my face, so I rigged up the additional ridge line and I felt it was fine like this, I stopped out on quite a cold night without finding excessive ammounts of condensation, the head vent helps alot in my opinion.
Even if you do find you are suffering with excess condensation as it is a synthetic you could just leave it open to air during the day and it wont effect the loft that much.
I am posting the cocoon to a chap in Scotland for him to give it a try too, so lets see what he comes back with, but as I have said I am impressed and have my name down for one.
Ian i have both of your other inventions, but this one seems to be the best yet, put myself on the list sir, perhaps ill get out more! thank you.
In Wood
Tiley
oetzi
Canalvoyageur
Sapper 1
Simon M
Littlebiglane
Glen
Woods_man PAID
tykent
Bodge
Karl5
Born Slippy PAID
Dingo
wanderinstar
26-11-2008, 18:44
Just an update. There are 15 Coccoons being made now. The first 15 people to pay will get them, GPO permitting, before Christmas. Any more sold will be delivered in New Year. Still in time for cold weather.
In Wood
Tiley
oetzi PAID
Canalvoyageur
Sapper 1 PAID
Simon M
Glen
Woods_man PAID
tykent
Bodge PAID
Karl5 PAID
Born Slippy PAID
Dingo
Richard Laverty PAID
richard.laverty
26-11-2008, 19:16
Hi please include me in the group buy.
In Wood
Tiley
oetzi
Canalvoyageur
Sapper 1 PAID
Simon M
Glen
Woods_man PAID
tykent
Bodge
Karl5 PAID
Born Slippy PAID
Dingo
Richard Laverty
Hello Ian. Paypal done! there goes the christmas bonus :)
richard.laverty
26-11-2008, 20:10
Hi Ian,
Many thanks, payment sent.
The Cumbrian
26-11-2008, 21:40
Me too...
In Wood
Tiley
oetzi
Canalvoyageur
Sapper 1 PAID
Simon M
Glen
Woods_man PAID
tykent
Bodge
Karl5 PAID
Born Slippy PAID
Dingo
Richard Laverty
The Cumbrian
firebreather
26-11-2008, 22:13
Runs around and kicks the cat......and the dog............and the other cat and the other dog just for good measure........... I have only just paid for 2 new canoes tonight......I would have held off on the second If I had been on here first........typical :( :( :( :( :( :(
Greg
wanderinstar
27-11-2008, 05:54
Well, that is 15 names down now, and 8 paid for. Will still take other names for delivery in new year,
In Wood
Tiley PAID
oetzi PAID
Canalvoyageur PAID
Sapper 1 PAID
Simon M PAID
Glen PAID
Woods_man PAID
tykent PAID
BodgePAID
Karl5 PAID
Born Slippy PAID
Dingo
Richard Laverty PAID
The Cumbrian PAID
I'll have one please, PM on the way.
In Wood
Tiley
oetzi PAID
Canalvoyageur
Sapper 1 PAID
Simon M
Glen
Woods_man PAID
tykent
BodgePAID
Karl5 PAID
Born Slippy PAID
Dingo
Richard Laverty PAID
The Cumbrian PAID
Addo
Payment sent. I've PM'ed you my address.:D
Payment sent this morning.
Simon
I'll have one please, PM on the way.
In Wood
Tiley
oetzi PAID
Canalvoyageur
Sapper 1 PAID
Simon M
Glen
Woods_man PAID
tykent
BodgePAID
Karl5 PAID
Born Slippy PAID
Dingo
Richard Laverty PAID
The Cumbrian PAID
Addo
Elrond
Payment on its way. Sorry for the delay.
wanderinstar
28-11-2008, 18:29
Thank you Ty. The 15 that are being made are now, just about, spoken for. So the last 2 names on list will go on the next GB, Which hopefully will start in the New Year.
In Wood
Tiley PAID
oetzi PAID
Canalvoyageur PAID
Sapper 1 PAID
Simon M PAID
Glen PAID
Woods_man PAID
tykent PAID
BodgePAID
Karl5 PAID
Born Slippy PAID
Dingo PAID
Richard Laverty PAID
The Cumbrian PAID
wanderinstar
02-12-2008, 20:26
Addo it's your lucky day. There is a spare Coccoon, and as you were next on the list it's yours. Let me have your Full name and address by PM and I will give you PP details.
Addo it's your lucky day. There is a spare Coccoon, and as you were next on the list it's yours. Let me have your Full name and address by PM and I will give you PP details.
Wahay!! Pm on the way, cheers:D
I have sent Wandrinstar a PM and we have spoken on the phone, but I thought I owed you guys an explanation too.:o
I have to back out of the group buy, Ian understands this and that is why there is now a spare one for Addo.:yikes:
As many of you are aware I was made redundant at the end of October. I have been lucky enough to find and start another job, however I have to work a month in hand and I have not received any dole (JSA) payments as yet. So with things being a bit, well very tight at this time I have to drop out.
I am really sorry about this for a few reasons,
1, I don’t like messing Ian about and that is why I have asked him to give the one allocated to me to someone who can pay him now as he has to pay for these before they are sent out and I don’t want him to be left short or waiting for funds from me.
2, I really want one of these cocoons, I was greatly impressed when I tested this product, but as you can understand the bills come before the toys.
My name will be on the next group buy I assure you and I hope you all enjoy using your cocoons as much as I enjoyed testing the prototype.:cool:
Just so you are all aware of why the guy who reviewed the item has now dropped off the list.:o
Ian thanks for your understanding and patience.:You_Rock_
I know what its like to be skint, TBH this is a bit of an unexpected spend for me at the mo, thanks for the opportunity to buy one though. Hope you get your payments soon.
wanderinstar
03-12-2008, 21:31
Dont worry Ian you will be first on the list for the next GB. Right that is all of them now paid for. Just have to wait for the word from Snugpak now.
Tiley PAID
oetzi PAID
Canalvoyageur PAID
Sapper 1 PAID
Simon M PAID
Glen PAID
Woods_man PAID
tykent PAID
BodgePAID
Karl5 PAID
Born Slippy PAID
Dingo PAID
Richard Laverty PAID
The Cumbrian PAID
Addo PAID
Will there be any action on Graham S's comments in his post on Member's Reviews and Testing? Certainly, anything that eases the potential snagging of zips gets my vote and a mesh pocket seems like a handy idea. I presume that there are tape loops at either end to tie up to a tarp and so provide ventilation.
I can't wait for mine to arrive. I had a very cold few days in the woods last week and have the prospect of something similar in January and February. If it's good to -10, I will be very happy!:D
wanderinstar
10-12-2008, 15:17
Tiley,
There will be a Mk 2, obviously it will cost a bit more, more work involved.
I have a bit of a dilemma on my hands. I hoped to get these 15 out before Christmas. However due to the length and type of zip, they have to be ordered specially. Snugpak got some samples in to make the prototype, with a few spare. They didn't expect 15 to be sold so quickly.
The long and the short of it is that they only have enough zipconnecters, the bits you pull, to make 3 bags before Christmas. The rest will be after Christmas, no problem. Problem is. who get the three before Christmas.
So if anyone really doesn't need one till after Christmas, can you please let me know. I know of one already.
I am so sorry about this, I suppose that is what I get for jumping the gun.
So if anyone really doesn't need one till after Christmas, can you please let me know. I know of one already.
I guess you're referring to me.
Still valid.
/ Karl
No rush for me Ian - Middlewood will be my testing weekend for it!
Simon
Whatever for me WS, middlewood would be my testing ground too.
As long as you accidently drop that BG folder in my package all is forgiven:D :D
cheers Ian
No problems waiting on my behalf.
I'm happy to wait as well.
Im easy, middlewood is prob my next pass out anyway.
I'm in no tearing hurry either.
Canalvoyageur
11-12-2008, 09:46
Hi Ian, Bit late with my reply sorry, I dont mind waiting till after Christmas either. Im in no hurry,plenty of time, got the rest of my life.
I think I'll hang on for Mk II then.
korvin karbon
11-12-2008, 10:39
will wait for MK2 two :p
woods_man
11-12-2008, 21:28
Hi, is it possable to get one before Christmas?
as i am going on the Scotland new year meet,
woods_man
wanderinstar
12-12-2008, 19:29
Thank you for your understading about delivery. There have been 9 people who said they would be willing to wait till after Christmas.and I have now heard from 3 people who requested theirs before Christmas. Haven't heard from the other 3, so I'm afraid it has to be first come first served. Once again I am very sorry for the delay. As soon as I know when after Christmas they will be ready I will post on here.
wanderinstar
15-12-2008, 18:11
As promised here is the update. Good news, the stitching down side of zip, to stop it fouling, will be done to all 15 Coccoons. The cost will be covered by the reduction in VAT.
The zips wont be in stock until 15 Jan so the delivery date I have been given is 23 Jan. So if anyone wants me to take theirs to Middlewood, give me a shout.
Middlewood for me please Ian.
Simon
I know it's dumb of me to ask this, having said I'm in no hurry, but is there any chance that there'll be any available in early to mid January? My reason for asking is I'd quite like to use it for the next stage of my instructor's course. If it's not possible, then I'll hang on and use it during the February stage. It might be bloomin' cold in January, though...
wanderinstar
16-12-2008, 05:52
Sorry mate. The 3 that will be ready are already allocated.
No problem. I'll just have to pack some bedsocks!
wanderinstar
20-12-2008, 11:22
Well, there should be 3 happy people on Monday morning. Just sent the 3 off this morning. Just so sorry that there wasn't 15 going off.
Merry Christmas to you all.
The Cumbrian
23-12-2008, 06:17
Well, there should be 3 happy people on Monday morning. Just sent the 3 off this morning. Just so sorry that there wasn't 15 going off.
Merry Christmas to you all.
I'm one of them, it arrived safely yesterday. I'll give it a whirl over the hols.
Happy Christmas, Michael.
mine arrived yesterday but I'm not allowed to have it til
christmas day(bloody kids)
korvin karbon
23-12-2008, 09:53
mine arrived yesterday but I'm not allowed to have it til
christmas day(bloody kids)
ROFLOL revenge must be sweet, dont worry you get to tell them santa is not real LOL
dont worry you get to tell them santa is not real LOL
Isn't he? :eek:
korvin karbon
23-12-2008, 10:54
Isn't he? :eek:
of course he is, parents just have the power to say he is not mmwhahahaha
I never believed in santa until I had kids ,now I know for a fact he exists,he's me.
:rolleyes:Non group buy post deleted
I never believed in santa until I had kids ,now I know for a fact he exists,he's me.
Does that mean that you're coming over to my house to deliver my presents? As a parent, I'm getting very confused here...:o
ROFLOL revenge must be sweet, dont worry you get to tell them santa is not real LOL
And if you are a teacher by profession you will get the sack, then.
If I remeber it correctly.
korvin karbon
25-12-2008, 18:03
And if you are a teacher by profession you will get the sack, then.
If I remeber it correctly.
probably, its ok for the church to say santa is not real though, well the minister/priest just has to deal with the wrath of parents who have been threatening their kids to tell santa they have been naughty if they dont do what they have been told LOL
wanderinstar
25-12-2008, 19:39
Forgive me, but I thought this was a Group Buy thread. The last 8 posts make you wonder.
korvin karbon
25-12-2008, 20:05
mods please delete my messages, christmas spirit will be locked up for next year
wanderinstar
26-12-2008, 09:03
Ooohhhhhh.
harryhaller
07-01-2009, 09:39
Are orders still being taken?
And any further comments/ feedback from those lucky enough to receive one for Xmas? Did you manage to get out and test the cocoon?
Greetings, by the way
wanderinstar
07-01-2009, 19:55
I will start a 2nd Group But when the remainder of the first lot has gone. End of the month, hopefully.
kiltedpict
07-01-2009, 20:25
Fantastic news, I can get one for me birthday then!!! I trust they work well with any make of "lightweight" hammock?
ATB,
Stuart
Yep I want one and i don't even have a hammock ....yet.
Please get in touch with payment details for the MK II.
Cheers.
harryhaller
10-01-2009, 22:00
I will start a 2nd Group But when the remainder of the first lot has gone. End of the month, hopefully.
Ian, I've read and re-read this thread and the review so many times and the only doubt I had was about the zip - which could be a safety question, but then you wrote:
Good news, the stitching down side of zip, to stop it fouling, will be done to all 15 Coccoons..
Well, I am awaiting a delivery from DD Hammocks next week for my travel hammock, tarp etc. etc. and all that is missing is my cocoon - well? Is there a package waiting to be posted to me? I have to top up my paypal account tomorrow and then it's up to you - give me the word!:)
(I'm in Belgium - will that change the price i.e. the P&P?)
wanderinstar
10-01-2009, 22:26
IIRC the postage to Europe is an extre £10.. But don't know what the final cost will be for the MK2 just yet. Want to get the other 12 delivered from the first GB.
harryhaller
10-01-2009, 22:47
Want to get the other 12 delivered from the first GB.
That's what I'm referring to - the first GB. I assumed that there were still some available. What's different/better in the MK2? The MK1 sounds already good.:)
wanderinstar
11-01-2009, 07:39
Sorry, there are none spare. The Coccoons are paid for before they are ordered. The MK 2 will have a small pocket on inside to put watch, glasses etc in. It will also have the extra stitching down each side of zip. Thank you for your interest.
Hi Ian , I'm definatley interested in a couple if you're thinking of another GB.
I'll keep a look out
Cheers Rich
Hi Ian
The guy I sent the prototype to, has he done a review yet. I would be interested in his thoughts.
See you end of the month mate.
DOH! Should have checked the review section first.
Hi folks ,It's feedback time.
I used mycocoon on this months Welsh Meet at cowbridge for two nights,the weather was wet,very wet,in fact it hammered down both nights.It wasn't too cold,but more of that later.
First the pros, It was very easy to set up with the hammock.I wanted to do things the most difficult way to see how it performed from taking out of the rucksack to me getting into it.
So, I erected the tarp(DD 3X3m) and then put up the hammock (a DD travel hammock,latest version),The hammock was put up upside down so the mossie net was underneath as there werent any mossies about and by dark all the flies had gone to bed.
Pulling the cocoon from the stuffsack and threading it onto one arm so it didn't touch the ground I then opened one carabiner (the hammock was left slack to allow this) and fed the cocoon onto the hammock.
After re-attaching the carabiner and tensioning the hammock I fixed one end of the cocoon to the carabiner holding the hammock and pulled the cocoon to the other end and fixed the end into the other carabiner.The first thing I noticed was how much of the cocoon sagged under the hammock,it seemed an awful lot and later in the night proved to be a problem.Also the ends of the cocoon were very close to being outside the tarp,this was easily cured by tying a loop of paracord to the cocoon loops and then adjusting the length of the loop to allow the cocoon to drop back under the tarp,unfortunately this caused more sagging in the centre of the cocoon.The cocoon is 10 feet long and the tarp is 3m long this is why the cocoon is so close to the ends of the tarp.
All these set backs are easily cured,which I'll get to later
Getting into and out of the cocoon is the same as getting in and out of an empty hammock(no sleeping bag) once inside I pulled up the zip and lay back and pulled down the other half of the two way zip so that I had a gap above my face,the gap can be positioned anywhere by moving the zips.The topside of the cocoon was just above me down as far as my knees where it was resting but by no means tight and resting on my forehead ,again not tightly.The under side of the cocoon was hanging about 8-10 inches below the hammock,This is where I found a problem,When sleeping the hammock is very warm (I was wearing lightweight trousers a "T" shirt and thick socks) and comfortable,Until I turned over.This is when all the cold air sitting in the sagging part of the hammock rushes up over the top of you.This is quite a shock in a half asleep state.
I think the way to cure this is to elasticate the inside of the lower part of the cocoon so that it is lifted up to contact the hammock without compressing the filling thereby removing the air gap beneath the hammock.Alternatively velcro fixed to the hammock and the cocoon will also cure this (but this is a home mod as all hammocks are different).
I read the reveiw where In Wood said a ridge line in the cocoon would lift the top and give more room inside and consisered this but decided thay by lifting the cocoon above myself it would also lift the lower part and move the cold spot to above me.
So in conclusion another winner.I will be modifiying mine as follows:
1, make shrouds to fit over the ends of the cocoon an hammock tstop wind blown rain wetting the cocoon.
2,fit elastic to the inside of the lower part of the hammock to prevent sagging and cold spots.
3, get another stuffsack so that hammock and cocoon can remain assembled all the time.
Thank You Ian for another excellent product.
It's extremely well made and easy to use.The modifications I have described are just my personal opinion and may (probably) not be suitable or neccessary for others.
It is also possible that I have not set it up correctly so please treat this feedback as one mans opinion and not as any form of criticism.
Thanks for the review sapper1, I sleep cold so any advise is usefull in advance.
Any news on delivery times yet Ian? If its as cosy as they say then im going to be needing it soon.
Nice one Sapper good review. I am keen to get going with mine when it arrives:)
harryhaller
20-01-2009, 20:31
Thanks Sapper - you have the same kit as I have so your review interested me greatly.
I read the reveiw where In Wood said a ridge line in the cocoon would lift the top and give more room inside and consisered this but decided thay by lifting the cocoon above myself it would also lift the lower part and move the cold spot to above me.
I don't think it would be cold anymore - the cold spot was cold because it was under you and could not be heated by your body heat. I think the ridge line would do the trick. Previous reviews have pointed out that being too warm is the more likely problem, not being too cold, The ridge line would produce more room above making it less claustrophobic and not excessively warm. In theory at least.
Can you try it out as a bivouac on the ground, Sapper? I'm interested in how well the crushed underside insulates from underneath.
BTW. I'm not waiting for delivery - I'm still waiting to be able to order!
I can tell you without trying it.I wont provide any insulation at all,once the fibres are flat the insulation properties are gone.It should be okay if you use an insulating mat under you though.
A ridgeline inside would lift the cocoon and then I could let the ends of it lower into the tarp this should cure the problem of the cocoon getting wet on the ends.I'll try it and let you know.
You won't go wrong with these they're brilliant.
Carbuncle
22-01-2009, 01:26
Sapper1, Thanks for the review. I've got Ian's excellent underquilt/overquilt combo, and we'll probably be after a couple of these in the next group buy (they're cracking value compared to the likes of the peapod, synthetic or not), but a few of the points you raised are a smidgen of a concern.
The length I could see on the photo's, that it'll deffo cover my karabiners-cum-drip-rings. OK, I can loop longer tape round them, but it'll put them outside the 10ft tarp when the hammock is taut. I'm sure 6 inches off the length (missus) would do the insulation properties no harm.
A bigger concern is the void beneath the hammock. It strikes me with these things, you can either have a snug fit with your head poking out, a big void above so you can read a book with your headlamp, or the halfway house where you zip right up with the bag a few inches off your face. From the photos it looks like the cocoon can do all three, but is that a big ask? If a few inches were knocked off the girth, so to speak, would reduce the void below the hammock, at the expense of making it a touch more claustrophobic (though the underquilt might be abetter idea in that case). But everyone would be a winner with the warmth, lighter weight and pack size, especially if coupled with the shorter length.
One other, perhaps more realistic, suggestion would be to put a couple of small fabric loops a couple of feet in from each end, at around a 45deg angle from the zip. You could then have the option to tie some shock cord to the ridge/utility line as per the bugnet on the dd travel hammocks mozzie net. The zip would be in a nice position for getting in and out, not to mention quite sociable at hangs with mates. And you wouldn't have yet another line going between the trees, with water potentially coming down it into the hammock.
Anyway, regardless of the above, which the other testers didn't seem to find a problem anyway, it looks like being a fantastic bit of kit at a bargain price, and we'll likely be in for one or two.
Carbuncle.
Graham_S
22-01-2009, 08:38
I used the prototype at the Scottish New Year meet.
The weather got down to sub-zero at night.
The Cocoon I had had shock cord loops on karabiners fitted to each end.
I had them on prussik loops attached to the hammock tapes.
They tensioned the Cocoon so that there was no void under me as I slept solving the cold air problem.
A length of paracord around the entry point at the foot end stopped cold air running down to my feet.
The fabric the Cocoon is made from is extremely water resistant (don't ask how I found that out ;)) so i wasn't worried about rain at all,hough my hexfly gave me enough length to cover the cocoon.
For tose that haven't seen it, here is my review from the first use.
I had the cocoon last weekend to test out.
I was at a Scout Camp up near Aberdeen, The weather was dry but cold.
Very cold.
The night-time temperature was around -10 deg C
Sadly the cold killed my camera batteries so no pictures
The cocoon went up very easily. As always I had my hammock setup pre-assembled in a dry bag.
after setting up my tarp, I strung the hammock/cocoon combo and adjusted the tensioning cords.
It went up with no fuss.
Getting in and settled for the night was easy compared to the roll mat/sleeping bag combo.
I simply unzipped the cocoon, got into the hammock and zipped it up after myself.
Job Done.
comfort wise I was very comfortable. I was certainly warm enough despite the low temperature. The combo of insulation and reflectatherm certainly did its job.
Packed in my drybag the cocoon/hammock takes up less room than my underblanket/quilt combo although it is a little more restrictive in use.
There are a couple of little modifications I'd like on the mkII version though.
A mesh pocket (like on the military bag) for stashing watch/glasses, shock cord/cord locks on the entry points for the hammock so they can be closed off (if desired)
and some rows of stitching beside the zip to reduce the chance of snagging on the fabric.
If you want to get out of the cocoon in a hurry, a snagged zip is not an ideal situation.
That said, those are just little niggles/upgrade ideas. I don't know if the extras would have an undue increase in the manufacturing cost of the cocoon.
All told, this is a fantastic piece of equipment for the dedicated hammock camper. the cold weather potential of the cocoon is huge. If you have the quilt as well, you could use it in really cold temperatures without any problems.
All told, I'm very happy with it.
I'll be using it a couple of times more before it goes back to Ian.
Looking forward to it, and fully confident that it'll handle any weather conditions the UK can throw at me.
Hi Graham,
When you attached the carabiners to the cocoon,where did you tie the other end?
Graham_S
22-01-2009, 13:44
The carabiner was put through both loops on the end of the cocoon with the tape running beneath.
I then had a loop of shock cord attached to the carabiner to maintain tension.
The shock cord was tied to a loop of paracord that was tied into a prussic that slides up and down the hammock support tape.
Thanks for that Graham I'll give it a try,the only thing that concerns me is rain.The carabiner holding my hammock ends is only just inside the tarp,If I put in a ridge line to hold up the cocoon and the end set up you describe it should cure all my problems.
As I said in my feedback "it's possible that I may have set it up wrongly".It seems I was right I'd got it wrong.
Any news Ian? no rush for me mate i was justa wonderin.
Adam.
wanderinstar
26-01-2009, 19:54
Yes, I should be picking them up Weds/Thurs. So will send then out ASAP. I am so so sorry for this delay. Will be having words with Snugpak before I start the next Group Buy.
Yes, I should be picking them up Weds/Thurs. So will send then out ASAP. I am so so sorry for this delay.
No worries.
I think it's great that you've invested your time and energy into this group buy. :You_Rock_
/ Karl
Indeed - I've been following it with a great deal of interest, as have a lot of other people. Looks and sounds like a top piece of kit - well up for the next group buy for Mk2
wanderinstar
01-02-2009, 12:51
Sorry couldn't pick them up last week due to being down country from Weds to Sat morning. But am going in Mon am to collect and will post off Mon pm.
Just lately this thread seems to be all excuses on my part. Am seriously considering whether to do another Group Buy for these.
WS is this just circumstance or resistance on behalf of the factory? If the latter they should remember we put a LOT of money their way with the purchase of various products.
wanderinstar
01-02-2009, 13:23
Circumstance I think.
Ian, no one blames you for the delays. You have a full time job and family that take priority. This is just a hobby and you do a sterling job with group buys, so keep going mate!
Simon
as with everything bespoke, the best things are worth waiting for.
TOP JOB IAN
Ian, no one blames you for the delays. You have a full time job and family that take priority. This is just a hobby and you do a sterling job with group buys, so keep going mate!
Simon
I definitely agree.
Top job, Ian!!!
well as soon as this little bit of weather goes away, i will get my fairweather hammock out, take it up the woods and make a fool of myself trying to use my new kit with my hennesy!
i will let you know how it goes.
thanks again ian.
Adam.
got mine Wednesday and have done a mock setup from the upstairs bannister to the bedstead. I have used some shock cord from the loops on the coccoon to the krabs and Adam(7) has tested it as I would cave the bannister in with my weight:D
I am going to get it out in the woods for an overnighter asap.
I am chuffed with the quality of the item and will post when I have spent a night out in it.
Thanks Ian for all your hard work with this new product.:You_Rock_
Picked mine up today from PO. Cheers Ian looks a cracking bit of kit looking forward to trying mine soon. Got the coccoon, hammock and bits all repacked as one unit, so setting up should take no time at all. I'll do some pics too.
wanderinstar
06-02-2009, 22:38
Thank you for letting me know you have received your Coccoons. Can the rest of you please let me know when you receive yours.
Just a bit of a reminder to people. The Coccoon is NOT symetrical. It is wider at the end with the logos on. Someone had commented that it was tight round his shoulders. Hopefully he had it the wrong way round, or he has VERY broad shoulders. (no smileys for edits)
The Cumbrian
07-02-2009, 01:06
Just a bit of a reminder to people. The Coccoon is NOT symetrical. It is wider at the end with the logos on. Someone had commented that it was tight round his shoulders. Hopefully he had it the wrong way round, or he has VERY broad shoulders. (no smileys for edits)[/QUOTE]
That be me.
I hadn't realised that the cocoon was asymetrical. I'll try it again the next time that I'm out, because I struggled to fasten the blighter up last time. I'll take my underblanket and quilt as backup, but I hope that it'll fit me.
As a bit of background info, I've been on jobs with lads called Michael weighing over 20 stone, and / or more than 6'4", and it's always been me that gets called "Big Mike". I'm quite tall ( 6' 1" ) but my major attribute is my width.
helixpteron
07-02-2009, 02:28
.....but my major attribute is my width.
Perhaps that should read ..."but my major attribute is my width of knowledge, and breadth of experience!" (o:
wanderinstar
07-02-2009, 12:49
Have just posted last 2 out, to Germany and Switzerland.
Will start 2nd GB as soon as I know the new cost of modifications.
Enjoy.
harryhaller
07-02-2009, 15:44
Will start 2nd GB as soon as I know the new cost of modifications.
:red: :notworthy :red: :) :rolleyes: :red: :notworthy :approve: :red: :You_Rock_
Picked mine up from the PO depot this morning, I'm suprised ( pleasantly ) as to just how small it you got it compresses down to. Will you be runnning compression sack stuffing clases at the next Bushmoot.
Looking forward to trying it out but the news tells me I shouldn't travel far enough to anywhere I can from here for a few days.
Thanks for all you efforts in design, liason, hassling and stuffing.
Born Slippy
07-02-2009, 18:26
Hi Ian been away this week,picked mine up from PO this morning can't wait to try it,look's great in green,thank's a million,u did a great job well worth the wait cheers
Have just posted last 2 out, to Germany and Switzerland.
Will start 2nd GB as soon as I know the new cost of modifications.
Enjoy.
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Thank you very much for the effort, Ian!!
Could pick up the package today.
Thanks a lot for all the time and effort you've put into this, Ian! :You_Rock_
/ Karl
Got mine, here it is among its ground-dwelling cousins, waiting for warmer times outside:
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a273/Supercorsa/Bushcraft/160209018.jpg
wanderinstar
16-02-2009, 18:08
Bl***y h*ll!!! Do you have a shop?:D
How cold is it in Germany. It has been tested to -10deg.
I work in an outdoor store!
Yep, its cold here, up to -8°C at night where I live, but the humidity is quite high also, at times. The bag may be rated to -10°C, but not for me;)
I used the underblanket/quilt combo when it was +10°C here and it was just sufficient, I had to drape a poncho liner over the ridgeline and wear long woolen underwear.
So I will wait a bit longer:)
wanderinstar
25-02-2009, 20:41
Hehe, I thought all those sleeping bags were yours.:o
Ian.
wanderinstar
04-04-2009, 12:57
I am going to start a Feedback Thread in Kit Chatter. So those of you who have Coccoons, if you wouldn't mind telling me what you think of them. It all makes for a better product in the future.
harryhaller
16-04-2009, 11:32
To save searching, here is the "Feedback for Coccoons (http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40046)" thread in the Kit Chatter folder.