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Cant remember where the other thread was so I'll start a fresh one. :?:
Russia, Finland and Lapland trip - wet cold or dry cold snow between August and say April?
Anybody know which conditions are most prevalent? Anybody recommend boots for these conditions - Mukluks? Mickey mouses?
All info welcome as usual! :biggthump
Anybody recommend boots for these conditions - Mukluks? Mickey mouses?
I imagine you would get some strange looks trekking through the snow with boots that have large black ears and a little button nose! :wink: :lol:
:rolmao: you donut Scott :rolmao:
Mickey mouse boots are the nick name given to US army arctic boots as they look like what mickey mouse wears! :rolmao:
:rolmao: you donut Scott :rolmao:
Mickey mouse boots are the nick name given to US army arctic boots as they look like what mickey mouse wears! :rolmao:
oops :rolmao:
Sorel boots? It's what most people around here who spend alot of time in the snow use for relaxing their feet (you need proper mountaineering boots for anything technical). They're originally canadian, and I think are used by mushers originally(I think that's their names, the guys that drive dog sleds) but eveybody who spends time outdoors in the cold has a pair! You can get them in any sort of warmth and they're really comfy)
That's what they look like typically:
http://www.interbreed.org/archives/sorel.boots.jpg
Thats more like it - do they have detachable liners?
Squidders
29-08-2004, 19:36
Gary,
I did a bit of poking about on Google and found the following snippet from a place called Ekaterinburg, it's close to Siberia and I'm not sure EXACTLY where you're going but this may help. If you could tell me where you had in mind more specifically, I may be able to find some more detailed information.
Snippet:
In January, the coldest month of the year, average temperature is -16 -17°C (3-1 °F) Sometimes (very rarely) it becomes as cold as -40 °C (-40 °F). Thaws in winter are very rare.
During long winter there is a lot of snow in the city and it melts down by the end of April. April and May are two dirtiest months as all mud lays on the streets.
July is the warmest month of the year. The average temperature is 18 °C (64 °F). The hottest temperatures are 35-38 °C (95-100 °F).
Summer ends in late August with first frosts coming to Urals.
"Indian Summer" in the middle of September is short but very nice.
First snow falls in the beginning of October, and finally covers the city in early November.
Swimming in the lakes is possible from June till August.
End Snippet
As for cold weather gear, if you're going to go plodding about and wanting to stay really warm this may be for you (http://www.northernoutfitters.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=Spo rtswear&category%5Fname=Artic&product%5Fid=110) they're $209 CAD or you could try and get some yetti gaitors for the boots suggested below or any other type of boot.
I hope this is slightly useful.
Joe
Thats more like it - do they have detachable liners?
Yep, they have a detachable felt liner. (the sheepskin at the top is just for show, it's felt inside =) )
I don't know how they'd do for walking long distances though, I tend to move quite alot in them...
Cheers Squidwort - :rolmao: - sorry relapsed into Sponge bob square pants then!! Good snippet mate - not sure where, or what I will be doing or if it will all come to nothing even - its all in theplanning stages at present.
Douglas - sorels are higherly regarded so they would probably be good althought for skiing and snowshoeing I am still thinking Mukluks.
Squidders
29-08-2004, 19:44
Douglas, they look really nice... I've been looking for something like that for my girlfriend for a while. Do you know of any online shops that sell them?
Cheers
Joe
Squidders
29-08-2004, 19:48
Gary,
Squidwort?!?! :rolmao:
I'm having real problems here thinking of Gary variations :nana:
Squidders: Sorry, I don't know of any. But our local sports supermarket (the type of shop that has tons of stuff for every sport you could think of and are cheap) sells them (well they had the lowest of the leather/rubber range last winter). But it seems that the only ones they do in this style (leather upper, rubber under) now are the "caribou" that are rated to -40° comfort...You used to be able to get lots of "warmths", maybe it's just because it's the automn collection?
Gary: Searching for an online dealer for squidders, I found this that might interest you:
http://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/index.php?PHPSESSID=eb45876bf6 f8f6184f186ccf6f859cfe&topic=3722.0
Alot recommend Mickey Mouses
Good site and yes the Mickey mouses do seem popular, but I hear they have a down side if your out in the field over night as the moist build up insode can freeze etc.
Squidders - the sorel type boot is similar to Lundhags and I think you might find them not to clever in the uk as they make the feet sweat alot (rubber boot).
I’ve not tried many boots but I do know that the Sorel’s are good. I used them for two years in Canada down to -68 degrees C (with wind) and they were very comfortable. I’d recommend them. They were on my feet out on the frozen ocean, in huge drifts and raging storms and never let me down. They need looking after or the leather can crack but just a little TLC and they’ll last for years.
:biggthump
Squidders
29-08-2004, 23:55
Squidders - the sorel type boot is similar to Lundhags and I think you might find them not to clever in the uk as they make the feet sweat alot (rubber boot).
They would be for my girlfriend... she got cold in egypt... during the day... in August! Yes, she is a freak :-)
tenbears10
30-08-2004, 00:12
You will be best getting Sorel boots from the US, exchange rate and all, do a google search and you get loads of choices.
Or like I put in the link thread
http://www.mukluks.com/index.shtml
Look at the deerhide mitts as well, pricey but fantastic.
Bill
Wet cold: Nokia rubber boots with felt liner
Dry cold: Leather boots wiyhout Gore Tex and with either room for many socks or a felt liner. There is a small company in sweden called "Jörn kängan" that makes a boot made by hand for real cold and that has a felt liner. But they don´t take any more orders since they have to deliver a lot of boots to the army.
You can always try to find out what kind of boots the finnish army uses, since they operate in the area.
Ten bears - I already have moose hide choppers and liners from my last visit to Canada and I have looked at the Stieger Mukluks cheers.
Viking, Nokia boots? Have you a link?
http://www.nokianfootwear.fi/english/eng_tr_active_tuura.html
Ahhhhhhhhh wellies - can you really see me in those mate? :rolmao:
Wellies, is that what they are called over there. These are superb mate, you can even go sking with these and when the wet snow comes you will love them.
TheViking
30-08-2004, 13:37
Sorel boots? It's what most people around here who spend alot of time in the snow use for relaxing their feet (you need proper mountaineering boots for anything technical). They're originally canadian, and I think are used by mushers originally(I think that's their names, the guys that drive dog sleds) but eveybody who spends time outdoors in the cold has a pair! You can get them in any sort of warmth and they're really comfy)
That's what they look like typically:
http://www.interbreed.org/archives/sorel.boots.jpg
Hi...
That boot is in 2 versions. One who keeps you warm down to -40 C and another who keeps you warm to -93 C!!! :shock: :wink:
Squidders
30-08-2004, 13:37
THE best application of wellies is to fill them with custard and see how far you can throw them.
:offtopic: or you can use then like welsh sheep farmers do! :yikes:
Having said that a lot of native peoples in northern canadian were then in the summer months and they were very popular among the hill farms and nomadic groups in bosnia during the war so vanity aside they might be worth looking into.
-93 was that on a link the viking?
Hi...
That boot is in 2 versions. One who keeps you warm down to -40 C and another who keeps you warm to -93 C!!! :shock: :wink:
"http://www.martylyons.com/Photos/Resolute/Boots-1.jpg" ?
TheViking
30-08-2004, 16:57
Hi...
No, sorry. Me being dumb! :roll: :wink: The boot "Snow king" keeps you warm to -93 degree C and the boot Adirondack keeps warm to -40 degree C. :wink: :biggthump
Adirondack (http://www.effektlageret.dk/product.asp?product=349&page=2)
Snow King (http://www.effektlageret.dk/product.asp?product=348&page=2)
ChrisKavanaugh
30-08-2004, 18:20
I have Steger Mukluks. They are superb up to 20 degrees. Above that and wet conditions will soak them. Sorels are my second choice for variable temps. Mickey Mouse boots are horrible. They were designed to keep feet warm while operatiing machinery or very short walks. Walking any distance whatsoever is utterly impossible. BTDT.
Cheers Chris I think you confirmed my suspicions - I guess Sorel/mukluk combo would be the thing with woollen socks and felt liners for both!
Thanks guys for all your input. :You_Rock_
That combination would set you through most eventualities - how will you be moving? Snowshoes or skidoo's?
ermm I think skiing and the odd stretch of hitching - not sure really still planning it all.