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bushcraftbob
28-01-2008, 13:04
I have heard that these are toxic if eaten straight from the tree and need to be dried? Does anyone know how long they need to be dried for?

I dont really intend to eat the leaf but want to put inside the trout im cooking over the bbq tonight, just to flavour it..ta

andyn
28-01-2008, 13:22
I don't think that is quite true personally, although mountain laurel is toxic and that looks much like a bay laurel tree, so as long as you have the right tree then you shouldnt have a problem

But even with proper dried Bay leaves you don't eat the leaf because they are too hard.

andy_e
28-01-2008, 13:24
They're not toxic as such, they were consumed as an intoxicant in some Roman religious rites. Here's what Delia has to say ;) ...

http://www.deliaonline.com/ingredients/bay_leaves,20,IN.html

... so, I think you could use them perfectly fine for what you have in mind, but be aware that using them fresh might impart a slight bitterness.

Tadpole
28-01-2008, 13:36
I have heard that these are toxic if eaten straight from the tree and need to be dried? Does anyone know how long they need to be dried for?

I dont really intend to eat the leaf but want to put inside the trout im cooking over the bbq tonight, just to flavour it..ta
I've been using bay leaf straight from the garden for twenty plus years, never had any problem, other than fresh bay not being as strongly flavoured as dried,
I use an extra fresh leaf for every 4 dried called for in the recipe.

andywinkk
28-01-2008, 17:32
I have them growing in the garden and use them often in cooking, They are great to eat when they have been roasted in oven, they are like a really tasty crip

UKHaiku
28-01-2008, 18:49
I have a bay tree too - use them fresh all the time.. As Tadpole says, not quite so strongly flavoured - but I must admit I almost always prefer the flavour of fresh herbs...

andywinkk
28-01-2008, 19:52
Mine give meet a really strong and staty flavour, And it grows really well, Ive taken loads of it and it needs no maintainence

Snufkin
01-02-2008, 21:43
As others do I use them straight off the tree, haven't used dried ones in years. The tree does need pruning though so I may well save some.

Matt Weir
04-02-2008, 20:56
Another vote from me saying use them fresh. I pick mine straight of the bush and whack 'em in stuff in the oven.

hiraeth
04-02-2008, 21:08
I never use dried leaves as i find it easier to get them straight from my tree. favorite use is to add to the pot when boiling gammon with an onion stuck with a few cloves

stevesteve
04-02-2008, 23:23
I have two chicken carcasses in the slow cooker right now. A day or so with some onions and bay leaves straight from the tree will yield some fine stock for soup later in the week.

Just add some chopped chicken meat, pearl barley and any veg you fancy.
Cheers,
Steve

Matt Weir
04-02-2008, 23:38
I have two chicken carcasses in the slow cooker right now. A day or so with some onions and bay leaves straight from the tree will yield some fine stock for soup later in the week.

Just add some chopped chicken meat, pearl barley and any veg you fancy.
Cheers,
Steve

Hmmmm, slow cooker ey, I tend to just boil the carcass but it requires a bit of stirring, topping and playing with whereas a slow cooker, as you say, can be set and takes care of itself :naughty:

pothunter
05-02-2008, 09:11
My wife uses leaves direct from the bush for cooking as stated by others.

The labrador helps himself to leaves and branches and appears to suffer no ills, although I was not aware that they are an intoxicant maybe this is the attraction for him.

Pothunter.

Rebel
05-02-2008, 21:04
If there's any truth to the rumour that they are toxic straight from the tree then me and my kids wouldn't be here today, or we'd have been very sick on a regular basis.

It wouldn't be wise to actually eat the leaf I guess as it would be very hard to digest. Usually you take them out of the stew before serving or leave them on the side of your plate.