Stoves

[Paganwolf]

Hi All ...thinking of getting a new stove and im looking at the multifuel Woodlore sell on their site, usually use a Tommy cooker when an open fire is out of the question, what are your views and what do you use?

[TheViking]

Hi...

Swedish Army Mess Kit! :biggthump Doesn't take up much space and is very durable. Everyone can use it. :wink: Very cheap too... There's a lot in here that can recommend it. A lot of dealers too.

[Paganwolf]

thanks for the speedy responce! what fuel do they use?

[TheViking]

Hi...

I use normal alcohol. 93%.

[alick]

Hi and welcome Paganwolf. Do a search in the kit section, there are two or three big threads discussing the merits of the swedish army mess kit, trangias, gas and multifuel stoves. Any of these would make a good keyword to search on.

There's stuff about hobo stoves i.e. making your own as well :biggthump

Cheers

[TheViking]

This thread: Swedish Army Mess Kit (http://www.bushcraftuk.net/community/showthread.php?t=376&highlight=swedish+army+mess).

[Tantalus]

biiiiiiiiig question there

how much can you afford to spend, what sorta weight and what sorta fuel?

they all have pros and cons

meths is not very hot
diesel or paraffin can be a pest to light but smashing once they are going

just discovered petrol stoves when i bought a
baby enders (http://spiritburner.com/collectors_phil_masters_enders 9063.htm) though the fumes from using plain old petrol out the pump are best avoided, specially inside a tent

then there is the question of maintainance and spare parts, specially if you buy an older stove

having said that some of the old ones like primus are still going strong 40 or 50 years on

Tant

[Mikey P]

I think I said the same thing on the other stove thread but I've had an MSR XGK shaker jet for years now and it's been fantastic. As long as you give a clean every now and again, it'll burn anything from meths to white spirit to diesel to aviation fuel. It all depends on what you're going to use it for and how often.

Let's face it - gas is really convenient too and Cotswold are doing the KSB Thermo Pro with windshield for 30 quid on sale offer. Perfect for fast set-up, easy to light, stable, and safer overall than liquid fuel stoves in a tent doorway. I bung mine in the back of the car with a pan and brew kit, just in case. For longer expeds and for abroad I use the XGK.

Horses for courses...

[Martyn]

Hi All ...thinking of getting a new stove and im looking at the multifuel Woodlore sell on their site, usually use a Tommy cooker when an open fire is out of the question, what are your views and what do you use?

That would be the optimus nova - I have one and it's fan-cooker-tastic. The best multifuel money can buy IMO. But it (multifuel) may not be what you want. Do a search on "nova" or "optimus" even "trangia nova" and you'll get tons of good info.

Personally, I'm likeing the plain old trangia more and more for simple and general no-fuss getting stuff hot. Of course, if you're going trekking in the moutains of nepal, a multifuel would have it's benefits. But for general purpose use, the trangia meths stove is fab.

[Les Marshall]

I must admit I have tried all sorts of stove over the years and have just reverted back to my trusty old camping gaz! Trangiers kits are ok, but I had trouble getting the meths that didn't blacken the pans, but found it a trusty system when used.

I have gone back to gaz purely for convienience sake, but worry about the effects on the environment, but also want to not have to carry too much fuel with me :-P

[tenbears10]

Trangiers kits are ok, but I had trouble getting the meths that didn't blacken the pans, but found it a trusty system when used.


I think a little water mixed with the meths makes it burn cleaner but I may be remembering wrong. Anyone else heard that or did I make it up?

Bill

[TheViking]

Hi...

Yes, BUT max. 10 % water! :wink: This prevents soot. :biggthump

[leon-1]

Hi All ...thinking of getting a new stove and im looking at the multifuel Woodlore sell on their site, usually use a Tommy cooker when an open fire is out of the question, what are your views and what do you use?

Make your own, they are quite easy to do and nearly all the stuff that you use are household waste.

have a look at this site (http://mywebpages.comcast.net/photonstove/stove/HighPerfAlcoholStove.html) , if you want a list of bits in English rather than American terms PM me and I will send it to you.

You will find that half the tools that are mentioned are not required either, they can be improvised form other bits (tin snips can be replaced with a set of scissors, don't use your wifes dress making ones she'll kill you). :wave:

[Paganwolf]

Hey thanks, i love the make your own one!! being a blacksmith by trade (as well as other things) that is going to be a must for me i love messing about making things from metal! cheers :o): looks as if it may be time to start collecting stoves, i have looked at loads i think a primus then the swedish with a home made in the middle :lol:

[Paganwolf]

Does the swedish kit all fit into the billycan??? any one know?

[Adi007]

Does the swedish kit all fit into the billycan??? any one know?
Yes ... with bags of room to spare!

[Les Marshall]

Yep!! :wave:

[leon-1]

Does the swedish kit all fit into the billycan??? any one know?

From what I have seen of them yes, the best person to talk to about them is Gary, he sells them at bearclaw (http://www.bearclawbushcraft.co.uk/home.htm) , but you will find a number of people who use them. :-)

[TheViking]

Yes. Both the fuel bottle and burner fits in there! :wink: The billy is fitted inside the windshield. Doesn't take up much spce this way. And you can easily fit a cup and a pack of matches in the billy too! :biggthump

[SquirrelBoy]

As Gary has pointed out before you can also use Greenheat gel sachets in place of the burner and meths bottle with the Swedish Trangia.

Its a great cook set, very simple (little to go wrong or loose!) and very robust. Thumbs up from me :biggthump

[Hoodoo]

What kind of cooking do you plan on doing? Frying, boiling, long simmering, cold weather? Most of what I do requires boiling and 90% of the time I use esbit, the other 10% I use an alcohol stove, and the rest of the time I use a cook fire. Lessee now, I think I've got that math right... :?:

Stoves with a lot of parts are far more likely to fail than alcohol or esbit. That's the main reason I moved away from gas stoves. For winter camping, I use a twig burner or build a fire on a cookie sheet. Twig burners are especially nice if you want to cook over a fire but there are a lot of combustibles on the forest floor and the threat of fire is high.

Esbit is the ultimate lightweight way to go, imo.

lightweight stove (http://www4.gvsu.edu/triert/bpack/frutay/alcoholesbitstove.html)

[leon-1]

I'll give that one a go, you never know I may even race it against the photon stove. :-)

[Paganwolf]

Thanks Guys......... im ordering my swedish kit right now looks a solid bit of kit! :wave: ill give it a good testing out and then go for a primus :shock:

[Tantalus]

for cheap and cheerful fuel tins use old lighter fluid tins (zippo etc)

prise the top off with a screwdriver and it snaps back on nice and leakproof

and the little jet on the top saves you fiddling around with a funnel
Tant