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In what seems to be a never ending search for My perfect sleep system I came across this,seems a very good price for all what you get to me,any opinions or experience of this particular kit???
http://www.surplusandoutdoors.com/ishop/877/shopscr3008.html
JonBaker
07-11-2007, 16:46
I have just bought one myself.
Bought it on ebay for £78.
Only just got it so I haven't tried it yet but seems good quality - got plenty of combinational options. I want to wait until it's cold in February to find out how good it is.
It weighs about 3.8kg and will take up most of room in your ruck sack - or you can carry it externally in its stuff sack.
It has Six 1'-wide nylon webbing straps adjust by ladderlock buckles
One foot wide! Bloody hell, that's a strap to be proud of! I think they've gone and done a Spinal Tap with their measurements there!
It certainly looks the biz, but the pack size must be enormous.
sleeperman
07-11-2007, 16:47
I want one :red:
I paid that for my nanok alone :aargh4:
I have just bought one myself.
Bought it on ebay for £78.
Only just got it so I haven't tried it yet but seems good quality - got plenty of combinational options. I want to wait until it's cold in February to find out how good it is.
It weighs about 3.8kg and will take up most of room in your ruck sack - or you can carry it externally in its stuff sack.
Have you tried it for size Jon???
JonBaker
07-11-2007, 16:52
It is quite bulky - I have taken it out of the stuff sack and just stuffed it in my Webtex ruck sack - there is some room to spare but not much. You could leave the patrol bag behind and save some room - for the price I though what the hell I have all the options I need.
It is quite bulky - I have taken it out of the stuff sack and just stuffed it in my Webtex ruck sack - there is some room to spare but not much. You could leave the patrol bag behind and save some room - for the price I though what the hell I have all the options I need.It does indeed look to cover all the options,that was my exact thought! Have you actually got in it and tried it for size/fit/comfort mate???
JonBaker
07-11-2007, 16:56
Have you tried it for size Jon???
Actually now you ask I haven't climbed inside it yet - I must do that!
It does seem quite large - but then again I am only a medium sized bloke who is 5' 10" - but hay it is for americans!
Saying that I think they do a supersized version of it - not joking.
I will climb inside tonight and let you know
Actually now you ask I haven't climbed inside it yet - I must do that!
It does seem quite large - but then again I am only a medium sized bloke who is 5' 10" - but hay it is for americans!
Saying that I think they do a supersized version of it - not joking.
I will climb inside tonight and let you knowThanks Jon mate,that would be appreciated,I am a bulky build you see,not exactly fat but just beefy.I know its all a trade off,comfort,size,pack weight and so forth but getting a good nights sleep in comfort is one thing I try not to compromise to much on,if you have not rested properly then you don't fire on all cylinders the day after!
JonBaker
07-11-2007, 17:11
Thanks Jon mate,that would be appreciated,I am a bulky build you see,not exactly fat but just beefy.I know its all a trade off,comfort,size,pack weight and so forth but getting a good nights sleep in comfort is one thing I try not to compromise to much on,if you have not rested properly then you don't fire on all cylinders the day after!
I'll give you all the dimensions I can and some photos (if I can work out how to up load them) - give me a day or two and I'll get you the info that is missing from the description on the link you sent.
I'll give you all the dimensions I can and some photos (if I can work out how to up load them) - give me a day or two and I'll get you the info that is missing from the description on the link you sent. Your a gentleman and a Scholar Jon!:)
JonBaker
07-11-2007, 21:03
CLEM
I did a quick check and the basic dimensions are as follows:
Across the shoulders it is somewhere between to 28 to 29"
Across the feet it is somewhere between to 16 to 17"
Length from head to toes is somewhere close to 78"
I got inside it - it feels quite roomy for me around the shoulders. Length is OK - feet quite close to the bottom of the bad.
Let me know if you want to take any more measurements and give you any more details. Like I say I think they do, do a bigger version - might be worth checking to see if any UK supplier does the bigger version if you think you need it.
Appreciated Jon,very good on you!:)
Khyam do a civvy version for a lot less wonga......
See here
http://www.outdoormegastore.co.uk/acatalog/Outdoor_Megastore_Khyam_Sleepi ng_Bags_269.html
commandocal
09-11-2007, 18:48
Crikey , packs down to 1ft long ?:O
Scots_Charles_River
09-11-2007, 19:29
Khyam do a civvy version for a lot less wonga......
See here
http://www.outdoormegastore.co.uk/acatalog/Outdoor_Megastore_Khyam_Sleepi ng_Bags_269.html
It's crap, not rated too what it says:rolleyes: . It only really goes down to 5degs. The outer sympatex bag condensates badly. I bought it for winter camping and only use it summer now. The zips are also a nightmare at night:rolleyes: . It does pack down tiny though.
Nick
In what seems to be a never ending search for My perfect sleep system I came across this,seems a very good price for all what you get to me,any opinions or experience of this particular kit???
http://www.surplusandoutdoors.com/ishop/877/shopscr3008.html
Strikeforce supplies have the same kit. I tried the sleep bag for size and as I am a big chap it was way too tight for me whereas the British green maggot I settled for has ample room. That said, if you fit inside then you'll find this modular US kit of being of high quality and the sleep bag looks mighty fine in black :)
I used my green maggot with the gortex bivvy and under tarp several time last winter and was very pleased, too hot if anything and left the bag undone until the 3am chill comes. This time around I am combining it with the special forces hooped tunnel tent (http://www.strikeforcesupplies.co.uk/stock.php?page=bigpic&item=20093) from strikeforce. Using the green maggot without liner or gortex outer at moment, that might change as temperature drop.
Strikeforce supplies have the same kit. I tried the sleep bag for size and as I am a big chap it was way too tight for me whereas the British green maggot I settled for has ample room. That said, if you fit inside then you'll find this modular US kit of being of high quality and the sleep bag looks mighty fine in black :)
I used my green maggot with the gortex bivvy and under tarp several time last winter and was very pleased, too hot if anything and left the bag undone until the 3am chill comes. This time around I am combining it with the special forces hooped tunnel tent (http://www.strikeforcesupplies.co.uk/stock.php?page=bigpic&item=20093) from strikeforce. Using the green maggot without liner or gortex outer at moment, that might change as temperature drop.
I'll scratch that from the list then,I am of a bulky build meself,not overly tall but wide and deep through and I struggle to get comfortable in most bags Ive tried.
Ive just got one of those Special Forces bivi's from Strikeforce a couple of weeks back meself.Hope to try it out soon.
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Ive just got one of those Special Forces bivi's from Strikeforce a couple of weeks back meself.Hope to try it out soon.
I found a minor amount of condensation gathers on the rubberised base, more testing needed on my part as it might have been my damp camelbak. My dog was in there with me in the bag hold area, great head warmer :lmao: I'm 6foot4 and he is a 21" tall lurcher and we had enough room, so you will find it has ample space. Defo need to peg it out to get the hoops to stay max height after a night of wiggling around.
http://www.stonefisk.com/media/users/stonefisk/sasbivvy.JPG
Like I say Saffy,I really cannot wait to get out and try mine,soon hopefully too!:)
On a follow-up to this thread how do people rate the US modular bags to the uk arctic issue bag for warmth? The us ones can be had for £80 on ebay and are very tempting!