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Safeways/Morrisons are selling boxes of 12 Greenheat sachets, and 1 litre bottles of gel for 48 pence at the moment. Seems helping the environment isn't too popular with the BBQ crowd.
Can you transport the stuff by plane? I wouldn't mind trying some, but if I can't bring it back it wouldn't be much use... (spending my holidays in Scotland)
Edit : Sorry, I forgot : thanks for the tip :biggthump
WELL THERE GOES MY PENSION PLAN!! :yikes:
Seriously, this is a fantastic offer people (should I be saying this? what a crap business man) I love this stuff - none toxic - none smelly (almost) - its excellent tinder, one sachet will heat a mug of water (if used with a stove set up) as the guys on the Islay hike will verify and its eco firiendly. And at that price, try it at least, you got nothing to loose!!
As for plane safe - Douglas its as stable as can be - just leave it in your hold gear and I would immagine it would be fine - although dont take my word as gospel, and if your worried check with your airline before departure.
I'm off the weep quietly in a corner now!! :cry:
rapidboy
04-08-2004, 20:14
Still £1.99 for 12 in Belfast :cry:
Rapid and that price it is still cheaper than I can get it trade!
:cry: :cry: :cry: none in my Morrisons. I made a special trip just for that...ho hum... :?: :rolmao:
rapidboy
04-08-2004, 21:23
Safeway can make mistakes with the pricing.
Last summer i bought 24 33cl bottles of Stella (a case) and was charged for a six pack.
Six packs where on offer at £3.60.
I asked the guy on the checkout if he'd made a mistake and he said if it was coming up on the machine at that ,thats what it was.
I came back into the shop and got 11 more cases (didn't want to be greedy :lol: )
288 bottles of Stella for £43.20 ,15p a bottle.
The guy on the checkout was killing himself laughing and so was i when i got home. :o): :o): :o):
I always have a little check when im in just in case but i doubt they will let it happen again :naughty:
Well, if they made a mistake on the green heat its their problem!! Get some before they realise.
Definitely not a mistake. Price signs showed original price with a slash through it and the new price marked up. It went through the till at 48p no problem.
Whereabouts are they stacking it ? I looked amongst bbq stuff etc but it wasn't there , maybe a regional thing :roll:
Where about are you NotBob? I've called all the morrisons within 25 miles and none of them have it :cry: I WANT SOME :-)
I couldn't find it in mine either :cry: So I brought some vodka instead and added some blackberry's from the garden. Just got to wait for/ find some sloes for the other half of the bottle :o):
my local safeways had the bottles but no sachets.
cheers, and.
Great Pebble
06-08-2004, 14:29
So I brought some vodka instead and added some blackberry's from the garden. Just got to wait for/ find some sloes for the other half of the bottle
You should give chilli peppers a go, interesting experience.
rapidboy
07-08-2004, 15:22
Regardless of price it's great stuff.
I'm now running a hex stove on it and it's now quite a pleasant experience.
I could never stand the fumes from the Hex blocks :yuck:
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RB
Another convert - praise the lord!! :o):
SquirrelBoy
08-08-2004, 11:06
Well I just popped in to my local Safeways on the off chance there was any going and have walked out with 20, yep 20 boxes of the stuff - all at 0.48p each !!!!!!!!!!!
...and it still cost under a tenner - I cant believe my luck :o):
I got some pretty strange looks as I was putting as much as I could in to the basket, and at the till :rolmao: I only left about 5 boxes on the shelves :rolmao:
My local store is in Walton-on-Thames, Surrey, but who knows if they will restock at these prices ?
p.s they were reduced from 98p and thats still a silly price !
rapidboy
08-08-2004, 15:12
Yep ,48p a bottle :lol:
No sachets left just bottles and lots of them at Safeways in Newtownards shopping centre.
RB
i have been to 2 different safeways to try and buy some. No luck.
my local waitrose has some for £3.49 a litre big difference eh.
I wonder if their not shifting old stock, a discontinued line? Be interesting to see if it reappears on the shelves again.
rapidboy
08-08-2004, 21:50
I asked today why the price difference between stores ? and the girl on the checkout said they should all be the same but maybe they hadn't changed the price on the shelves.
Might be worth asking at your local to scan it and see what the till say's ???
My woman has been burning mine in the fireplace (chimneys blocked off in her apartment :?: ) so i'm buying plenty.
RB
SquirrelBoy
09-08-2004, 20:18
Having had a little play with the greenheat,
I tore one along the dotted line for about 3mm and squeezed a small amount onto a brick. Then lit the gel/sachet with a match. It burned for about 2mins then went out :?:
I lit a second one but this time squeezed out plenty of juice. Much better burn time 18mins.
Would a windshield help get a better burn or conserve fuel? How about tearing it open more?
How do you use yours?
rapidboy
09-08-2004, 20:42
I use the lid of an airgun pellet tin with a Hex stove and it works fine but a wind shield would be better.
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It's more efficient in this home made stove ......
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......and i imagine even better in a trangia where the windshield covers the pot as well as the heat source.
rb
You imagine right Rapid, one sachet of green heat will heat up the water in the mug/lid section of the mess kit used with the windshield - this is tested on the stainless set I would imagine the Ali sets are even more conductive and there for better. :super:
SquirrelBoy
10-08-2004, 17:40
Cheers guys, will have to get testing with the Trangia set from Gary then ! :o):
Let us know how you get on Nigel - I havent tried the ali set with greenheat so it would be good to know.
Also one tip - I usually build a small twig base, like a mini temperate fire lay, and place the windshield over this - slice open the sachet, squeeze out a little gel and light this then place on the mug. Gel burns sachet and all and the base means less heat is lost to the ground and thus more heat goes to your mug.
Simple and effective - try it!
hobbitboy
11-08-2004, 12:18
Am I right in thinking that thios is the stuff with the WWF logo in one corner and is made from veggie matter?
I'm confused if it is! Cos i tried it and it was naff, and everyone i spoke with said the same......we've got a load of it sittin in the stockroom at work cos no-one would by it.............
Thats the stuff. i haven't been overly successful with it either.
I did manage to get 13 boxes from safeway in the end though. so i shall get plenty of practise.
I think there are 2 different products being spoken about here. The greenheat stoves (small tins sold in 3s with a burner, medium tins sold in 2s with a burner, and large tin with plastic lid with a stove) aren't the product being talked about here, I think. I'm tempted to try using the contents of the stove tins as a booster for firemaking this weekend (me and Jak in some woodland with another mate (who's on BCUK, but has't posted yet I think).
Seems like all the Greenheat has gone from around here, I visited three Safeways and all I could find was a gap on the shelf in the BBQ section.
They must of had some because the sign said 48p, Sainburys have the large bottle at £1.98 so it might be one of those and a small tin to pour the contents into. Has anyone used the large bottles and if so are they liable to leak ?.
Could be interesting experiment. Not got much experience with it myself...
(Taz has posted in the sharpening thread under edged kit.)
Greenheat in tins isnt all that - but in the sachets it works like HEXI BLOCKS BUT WITHOUT THE SMELL AND TAR. Like hexi they probably wont be to every ones taste but I think their spot on, and as pointed out as well as a source to heat your brew they can also be used for fire lighting. Not the fastest thing in the world I agree but then 'the craft' isnt about speed either and as I use self heating meals these days I dont need to carry a stove or more spare fuel and all the other baggage that goes without so they suit me down to the ground.
Just my humble opinion!.
hobbitboy
11-08-2004, 22:47
Aaahhh...I see! Thanks for clearing that up :-)
I cant find the old greenheat thread where I mentioned using the stuff with a swedish mess kit instead of the triangia so I've have to use this one instead.
As I pointed out then it works well but I was doubtful about it in cold conditions - well I have been running an experiment and the results are good.
I frozen 6 sachets in the freezer, removing one everyday for a week to see if it deteriated in the cold and am pleased to say they didnt - only problem I had was todays sachet was so iced up the the ice melted and put out the first flame! But once relighted it was ok.
Top tip I did find was that they worked better after a little rewarm in the pocket, a few seconds from freezer to garden.
Anyway - not scientific and would be interesting to see if an ambient temperature effected this test but hey it amused me! :nana:
calorie output and heatwise the greenheat stuff isn't brilliant. you can't et enough of it into an upside-down pepsi can burner to make it worthwhile. it is much nicer than hexy/esbit blocks, from the point of view of leaving all the black scum behind, the greenheat scum is, well, green!
the big bottles seem pretty robust and unlikely to leak.
i will have a go with my homemade trangia using a boot polish tin lid as a greenheat holder. using an entire sachet for every brew does seem a little excessive.
cheers, and.
Great Pebble
15-08-2004, 18:32
Got 13 boxes today at Shore Rd, Belfast. All they had.
Was in the Downpatrick store yesterday and couldn't find any, but I was in a rush.
Les Marshall
18-08-2004, 21:26
I may be wrong, but from my air movement days with the brylcream boys, I'm sure that IATA may have something to say about how to move this type of fuel by air. I have not seen the product you are talking about, but there shoul be some sort of indication on it re transport?
Metala Cabinet
19-08-2004, 13:23
Saw a few boxes of sachets for 48 pence at Tunbridge Wells Safeways this morning if anyone's interested.
Great Pebble
19-08-2004, 14:17
Strictly, you shouldn't have anything flammable or explosive in your hold baggage at all. However as I've pointed out to folks at airport security in the past, a Sigg bottle full of meths is in all likelyhood a lot safer than a bottle of duty free brandy... I've never lost any yet.
There's a few things like that overlooked in the air transport world. For instance, I believe a passenger must to the letter of the law be able to walk something like 300ft. unassisted. Try enforcing that one.
SquirrelBoy
02-09-2004, 17:31
Let us know how you get on Nigel - I havent tried the ali set with greenheat so it would be good to know.
Also one tip - I usually build a small twig base, like a mini temperate fire lay, and place the windshield over this
Well my findings are:
Swedish Army Trangia Ali Set
1 sachet of Greenheat
1/2 pint of cold tap water in the smaller pot (equal to a mug of tea)
Temperate fire lay of about 2cm in height (to raise sachet nearer pot and as Gary says, insulate it from the ground)
Time taken to a good rolling boil 11min 30sec
This might be improved on by raising the platform higher so the flame could be a little nearer the pot. There was about 7min of usefull life left in the sachet - easliy enough for a brew or some simple cooking e.g noodles/pasta
Just for fun I timed the meths burner:
Time taken to a good rolling boil 7min 30sec
This was from a cold start, only its second light and about half full of fuel.
So IMHO the Greenheat sachets are pretty good stuff. It saves you the trouble of carrying meths (with the attatched risk of spillage in your pack) and the burner. It has quite a pleasent smell, unlike hexamine which I believe is also toxic and is harder to light. Another small bonus is that it dosent leave gunk on the bottom of the pan - so pretty clean. Just the stuff for a potter in the woods or a lightweight weekend away :biggthump
Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings, but after trying two branches of Safeways/Morrisons and finding them out of stock, I phoned their customer services and was told that the reason that they were selling this so cheap is that Morrisons have discontinued it, and there is definatly no more in stock anywere.
Does anyone know who the manufactures are??????????????
Its manufactered by Greenheat! Web search will bring them up but I dont think they sell direct.
I was just curious as I was in B&Q and bought a bottle of "fire starting gel" (one of their own brands) and although it works really well, I wondered if it was the same stuff.
Its white in colour.
What colour is Greenheat?
rapidboy
11-09-2004, 16:14
Is green :wink:
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Try Blacks Outdoor shops too. There's a sale on at the moment and I got one of the little tin greenheat picnic cookers for 1.99.
Will go quite nicely in my brew kit in the boot of the car.
It's liquid Kryptonite :rolmao: