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I've seen people carrying stuff on their belts before, most people carry a knife on a belt when out in the bush. (Not all though, just in case there is a pedant about who neck carries! :rolleyes:) I have also seen people with what I can only describe as a Bat-Belt! They have all sorts on it, my Dad is one of them! He carries all sorts of stuff, Zippo lighter in a leather case, Leathermans in a leather case, Maglite, in a leather case! He even has a set of handcuffs, although he can't, by Law, use them! :rolleyes: Guess what they're in? Yeah, a leather case! :D
I recently got a possibles pouch and a sheath from Topknot, I will get some photos up and the contents of the possibles soon, but it carries some essentials and they do me just fine. I don't want to add anything else to my belt kit, but I was wondering what others carry on their belts for an outdoor trip, not in town but out of town. Any pics are more than welcome, do you have a simple belt kit, or do you have a Bat-Belt or even worse, a Star Wars Stormtrooper belt with mini grappling hook, two way radio..........
:D
I've got a 'work' beltkit for deployments/ops but for normal days out, it's usually a pistol lanyard on my belt with a SAK Soldier on the end of it in my pocket, and...er...that's it. I use the lanyard because the SAK seems to be a bit slippery and likes to dive out of my thigh front pocket.
I tend to keep things in my pockets or Maxpedition go-bag - I'm not expecting to get bounced in the middle of the night so belt kit seems a bit extreme for bushcrafting. Get's in the way too.
It is good to carry stuff on your belt I have a knife and possibles pouch, at night I will add my Fennix torch, you can go crazy though I think its just knowing when to stop and say to yourself do I really need a crappling hook on there, hmmmmmm
British Red
03-11-2007, 21:34
I ahve a variety of belt kit - it sort of depends what I'm doing. For day bimbles its my Sak pouch and stone and steel pouch (both by topknot also) and my battered old possibles pouch (which contains such oddities as a monocular for bird watching, mini FAK for bites and blisters, lighter, putitabs for replensihing water from streams etc.)
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/182/473344250_429025c83c_m.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/152/436616637_5adbcb8b44_m.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/153/436616591_4115ed8a69_m.jpg
When out and about, I wear my knife and pouch on the "strong side" and my axe on the "weak side" (cross draw).
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2011/1509507036_122ad12cc9.jpg.
I know no-one else who belt carries an axe, but it works for me with the lightweight Cegga axe (thats what I designed it for). Since its primary use is wood gathering and my hands are full of wood, I like the axe "stowed". On occasions it comes out on the baldric which turns into a "fallen wood" strap and comes home on my belt. It tends to live on my ice axe straps when wearing my pack and traveling and then move to my belt in camp though.
Red
Like your possibles pouch Red. I'm gonna have to get some photos done tomorrow of Topknots work, it is amazing isn't it? I think your pouch is marginally bigger, but I get my DC4 in mine along with an Opi 8, a small antique wooden matchcase that the missus bought me for an anniversary present (the irish guys will love it!), a CMG Infinity torch, a ferro stick, peanut lighter, stainless steel whistle and a sliver of maya wood. Lots of fire making kit actually, I might redistribute it a bit and bang my pipe and a bit of baccy in there!
All I carry on my belt is my knife, Laplander saw and a waterbottle.
FAK, PSK, Compass, fire lighting gear, and my snack/brew pack go in my jacket or trouser pockets.
I tend to forget things, so if it stays in the pouch, then I know I just need to grab it and go! Plus, in winter months I wear lots of clothing with lots of pockets. It can become a bit of a laugh trying to find something! :D
I had pocket contents drilled into me so much I doubt I'll ever forget it,:D lol!
British Red
03-11-2007, 23:02
I tend to forget things, so if it stays in the pouch, then I know I just need to grab it and go! Plus, in winter months I wear lots of clothing with lots of pockets. It can become a bit of a laugh trying to find something! :D
Thats why I do it Spam. I keep my possibles pouches with all the handy bimble bits in (above and beyond normal pocket gear). So small Silva compass etc all live in there and I just sling the pouch on my belt and go. Many times its come in handy (BB is allergic to bites so I carry antihistamine etc. in it). Its jsut a colection of those "nice to haves" really. I find it useful when out for a weekend to - I dump my pack as soon as but those little items stay with me. Bigger stuff lives in my side pockets of the ruck so I can remove them and go for day walks with brew kit etc.
Red
I wanted to cram your jerky in Red, but I couldn't get it in because I ate it all! Yum! Yum!
:D
British Red
04-11-2007, 00:01
You poor starved soul Spam :(
Well, if theres any leftovers next week I'll let you know. No jerky though - just "home made" winter stuff....fudge, coconut ice, cranberrry and port jelly, pears in brandy syrup and pineapple and ginger preserve. BB's finishing off the christmas cakes and christmas puddings so I'll need to whip up some fresh brandy butter too. Logs are all stacked now so I can focus on the cooking next week :)
Not your sort of thing at all really ;)
Red
British Red
04-11-2007, 00:02
Oh and large mangoes are going cheap so a few jars of mango chutney for no real reason!
Blimey, I might come round yours for christmas! I was gonna give the jerky a go the other day, but the beef in the freezer, well, it isn't fresh for starters :rolleyes: and it has a lot of fat marbling so a bit of a nuisance. I'll get down the butchers and have a .........errrrr..........butch ers!
:D
And I've managed to take my own thread off topic! Check me out! :rolleyes:
Back to the Bat-Belts people!
:D
mentalnurse
04-11-2007, 00:44
for work i have to carry on my belt:
a key strap
key belt clip to secure them
a first aid kit
loads of first aid gloves
id
torch in pouch (on nites for room checks)
all the other stuff i carry in my pockets.
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s86/mentalnurse/DSCN1263.jpg
British Red
04-11-2007, 00:54
You know you have an air leak in your central heating system when..........
This:
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c287/rcnk/pouch5.jpg
There's also a pair of o'Tom tick removers and a micro firesteel which aren't shown in the photo.
big_swede
04-11-2007, 16:13
All I carry on my belt is my knife, Laplander saw and a waterbottle.
FAK, PSK, Compass, fire lighting gear, and my snack/brew pack go in my jacket or trouser pockets.
Another one for pockets here! On my belt I carry a knife. Attached to the belt is a lanyard with a pouch (firesteel+tinder) that sits in my pocket. All other important stuff goes into the pockets (compass [attached to a belt loop], folding cup, compress+band aid, map).
Less important stuff goes into the backpack. Woolen hats and gloves usually lives in my jacket.
This set-up stems from me being higly mobile, and almost always carry a pack. If I kept lots of stuff on my belt it would chaf against the waistbelt on the pack.
do I really need a crappling hook on there, hmmmmmm
Yow! Is that what you hold onto when you're going to the toilet? :eek:
I carry a cotton pouch on my belt with birch bark in it. I carry my knife around my neck now, because with winter coming my belt gets buried under layers of clothes. Otherwhise in summer I rather carry it on the belt. Also I think the waistband of the rucksack makes it impossible to carry anything on the belt for me when I'm on a trip.
I got some stuff hanging from lines on the belt, going into the pockets. Like a sak, small torch and firesteel+striker. The lines make it impossible to loose them, but also really easy to get them out of the pocket.
When I'm collecting firewood I also hang my axe or machete on the belt like British Red.
Surrey Yeoman
05-11-2007, 16:57
...........my Dad is one of them! He carries all sorts of stuff, Zippo lighter in a leather case, Leathermans in a leather case, Maglite, in a leather case! He even has a set of handcuffs, although he can't, by Law, use them!
Spamel,
Why oh why does your old man carry a set of handcuffs??? Is he ex-police by any chance? If he is, he should know that case law :nono: has held that handcuffs are a "made offensive weapon" as they are an article intended to incapacitate. So, unless he's got "lawful authority or reasonable excuse" he's likely to get them seized and possibly get himself nicked :eek: (unless of course they're the pink, furry type for use in the bedroom ;) )
British Red
05-11-2007, 17:01
Also I think the waistband of the rucksack makes it impossible to carry anything on the belt for me when I'm on a trip.
If you have longer loops made for your possibles pouch, axe, knife etc., they hang below the rucksack hipbelt. If you look for things with "dangler" or "double dangler" loops, they are comfortable even when the hip belt is on
Red
gregorach
05-11-2007, 17:18
Or you modify your pack hip belt to take pouches... Or go for a kinda Frankenstein affair using your belt kit as your hip belt - that's what I ended up doing. But then, the belt on the old Sabre 45 was rubbish anyway... So I have an arrangement whereby I can attach a PLCE webbing belt to the pack. I have two pouches on it - a canteen pouch (bottle, mug, crusader, stove, water filter, etc) and a double ammo pouch (fuel bottle, survival kit, tinder, tea / hot chocolate, bug repellent, headnet, torch, compass, etc, etc). It's a lot of stuff on a belt I guess (and yes, I do use the yoke), but it's mainly because I'm slightly absent-minded and either end up leaving stuff strewn all over camp or stuffing half the contents of my pack into my pockets. And I'm sick of that business with having loads of stuff in my pockets - I end up spending ages trying to find stuff. I'm also particularly sick of always leaving my mug on the other side of the fire... So it's a Bat Belt for me, largely out of sheer laziness.
A side benefit is that having the PLCE yoke attached to the Sabre 45 makes the back system much more adjustable. Although it does involve a lot of straps...
Spamel,
Why oh why does your old man carry a set of handcuffs??? Is he ex-police by any chance? If he is, he should know that case law :nono: has held that handcuffs are a "made offensive weapon" as they are an article intended to incapacitate. So, unless he's got "lawful authority or reasonable excuse" he's likely to get them seized and possibly get himself nicked :eek: (unless of course they're the pink, furry type for use in the bedroom ;) )
You're tellimg the wrong person! I totally agree with you, but he likes his bat belt! I have no idea what he wants to do with them, although I do know if he detained somebody with them he'd be in the brown smelly stuff himself, hence my use of Mr Rolleyes! :rolleyes:
Belt kits look the part, alright, but I can't wear much more than a very small pouch.
My body fat seems to all hang around my belly and I've a very small stern. So I have to wear gallus's to support the usual high waisted outdoor type pants. Even so, it's not possible to load up my belt with clobber, or I'm continuously adjusting my gallus, taking up all the elasticity and giving myself an uncomfortable time in the nether regions. Yeooow!
Maybe the solution is to find hipster waisted outdoor pants, or even a non-elastic gallus.
These days, its just a large pouch rigged on the baldric.
Snake'ips Ceeg
I have a bat belt :cool: Its still in the making, but currently has:
Weak Side
95 pattern water bottle & mug in PLCE pouch
Leatherman Surge in leather pouch
Leatherman additional bits in 'plastic' pouch
Firesteel in above pouch
Rear
AA Maglite lookalike in DPM pouch
Strong Side
PLCE Trauma pouch containing:
Trauma FAK - Selection of sterile dressings
FAK - Usual stuff such as plasters, wipes, etc.
Vinyl gloves (don't get on with Latex)
Natural remedies such as Arnica, Lavender EO, etc
Insect repellant
Safety pins
Re-hydration salts
Will also contain whistle when moved from other bag and 'Emergency Card'
Silva Compass in DPM pouch
Mobile phone in Dewalt belt pouch
Perhaps I should explain a bit of the thinking behind this... When I'm down in the wood I'm often working, often with a chainsaw, and mostly on my own. I also tend to forget things, and a 6 hour round trip makes it impractical to go back home to get something I've forgotten. So my belt contains things I think will keep me alive until help arrives, and also a number of things I keep forgetting to take with me, that would otherwise be in my pockets.
My recently acquired Helle Futura is carried baldric style.
This setup allows me to also carry the backpack I recently acquired following assistance on here. I can then dump the pack back at basecamp, but still have the essentials on me.
I'm still planning the contents of the back pack (bug out bag)
G
You're tellimg the wrong person! I totally agree with you, but he likes his bat belt! I have no idea what he wants to do with them, although I do know if he detained somebody with them he'd be in the brown smelly stuff himself, hence my use of Mr Rolleyes! :rolleyes:
Does he cycle? Seen picture of US cycle cops locking up their bicycles with a pair of handcuffs.
He does cycle, but I don't think he'd use them for that. I don't know why he carries them!
Gailainne
05-11-2007, 19:13
I think someone was hinting at a reasonable excuse for carrying them tho ;)
On the batbelt front, I have my small possibles pouch, its a small eurohike corudra affair, it carries;
front pouch;
dc4
small fishing line, float, and hook (got it in Sweden never removed it)
Main pouch
Leatherman wave
2 small fak zip lok pouches, one with plasters wound dressings and alcohol swabs and a led light(bcuk)
the other with a flat roll plaster, alcohol swabs, aluminium foil, flat roll of gaffa tape.
also a dry bandage,
travel wipes
hand sterliser
foldacup
lipsalve
old style film container with sewing kit, including large curved needle, hm can opener, space filled with cotton wool.
and for some reason which escapes me for the moment the container is wrapped 2mm steel wire. :werd:
notebook
pencil
indelible pen.
In addition there would normally be a bic lighter, another led light, if not a torch and micropore tape.
Its a bit bulky, maybe 90mm square by 150 tall, but it weighs nothing (apart from that wire :eek: )
Stephen, still wondering about that wire.
gilly0802
05-11-2007, 20:16
I have a bat belt :cool: Its still in the making, but currently has:
Weak Side
Strong Side
PLCE Trauma pouch containing:
Trauma FAK - Selection of sterile dressings
FAK - Usual stuff such as plasters, wipes, etc.
Vinyl gloves (don't get on with Latex)
Natural remedies such as Arnica, Lavender EO, etc
Insect repellant
Safety pins
Re-hydration salts
Will also contain whistle when moved from other bag and 'Emergency Card'
G
how usefull do you find the "trauma Pouch as opposed to the standated PLCE Utility pouch? juas wanting a general idea as to ease of access/ability to store stuff as i am thinking of getting one for my belt kit (for military exercises)
Aren't we forgetting a slight problem here with bat belts? Over zealous use leads to ... pants falling down too rapidly. :D
I've had to carry a lot on my belt for work sometimes (hip holster, 9mm, ammo, Leatherman, torch, toolkit, folder) and when I pop to the loo, gravity takes over and I barely have time to sit down before a ton of metal hits the deck. I often didn't even have to undo the buttons. I was forever having to adjust to make things comfortable and I was glad to take it off when I had the chance.
Furthermore, too much rubbish on your belt rubs the tops of your hips and wears your pants just below the belt line - and also breaks the loops. No problems with a couple of light items but some of the above appear somewhat excessive. In my opinion, belts are for holding your strides up; pockets and bags are for carrying things.
As bushcrafters/kit monsters, we (I include myself) seem to have an inbuilt genetic code to add more kit when space is available! :rolleyes:
Hence the reason I am limiting myself to possibles and sheath. I find bat belts just a bit too cumbersome!
As bushcrafters/kit monsters, we (I include myself) seem to have an inbuilt genetic code to add more kit when space is available! :rolleyes:
Thats why i have ditched my bergan.
There is the tendancy to stuff every pocket with duffle and i am not going out to set up an observation post or lay a snap ambush.
Travel light,freeze at night:lmao:
If you have longer loops made for your possibles pouch, axe, knife etc., they hang below the rucksack hipbelt. If you look for things with "dangler" or "double dangler" loops, they are comfortable even when the hip belt is on
Red
Good point :) I am going to make such a bag with longer loops tomorrow then.
Although I also like to have things really stuck to the belt instead of having them dangling around.
I have a double possibles pouch which I only use when teaching "outdoorsy" type activities either in school or helping out at the local Scouts.
http://www.tamarackoutdoors.co.uk/prodimages/3589.jpg
In the rear pouch I keep a Silva Type 4 compass and 2 x 4m lengths of para cord. In the front pouch I keep whatever I need for that particular activity!
When out and about everything I need either goes in pockets or rucksac.
Simon
My name is Toddy, and I'm a pedant :rolleyes: I carry on a baldric :D
I don't use a belt if I can avoid it...never quite got the hang of this idea of standing up and using little hose attachments ;)
Depends where I'm going and what I'm up to, but it's usually my pockets or little shoulder bags that carry my kit. I've got really neat trespass daypacks that carry all I need comfortably and leave my hands free and don't get in the way when I'm clambering about woods and burns. Maybe not as pretty as the fine leatherwork ones but simple and adaptable.
cheers,
Toddy
I have a double possibles pouch which I only use when teaching "outdoorsy" type activities either in school or helping out at the local Scouts.
http://www.tamarackoutdoors.co.uk/prodimages/3589.jpg
In the rear pouch I keep a Silva Type 4 compass and 2 x 4m lengths of para cord. In the front pouch I keep whatever I need for that particular activity!
When out and about everything I need either goes in pockets or rucksac.
Simon
that is very cool, did you make that simon or have it made for you ?
Steve27752
06-11-2007, 00:01
On my belt kit I have:
From right to left. Key hook, CS Spray, Glock 9mm with 17 round mag in Safariland holster, Asp, Rigid cuffs, Leatherman wave, Fak, Motorola radio pouch, Surefire Tactical illuminator (torch), Double mag pouch (17 round Glock mag & 15 round MP5 Mag).
how usefull do you find the "trauma Pouch as opposed to the standated PLCE Utility pouch? juas wanting a general idea as to ease of access/ability to store stuff as i am thinking of getting one for my belt kit (for military exercises)
I bought it because I wanted a pouch with several pockets/compartments so I could separate things out. Its not perfect, but it certainly does the job. It does hold a great deal, and access is fairly easy.
Aren't we forgetting a slight problem here with bat belts? Over zealous use leads to ... pants falling down too rapidly.
I wear a 'normal' belt to keep my pants up, and a PLCE as a bat belt.
G
British Red
06-11-2007, 09:20
Good point :) I am going to make such a bag with longer loops tomorrow then.
Although I also like to have things really stuck to the belt instead of having them dangling around.
Gunnix...aaah thats where the "double dangler " comes in you may have hear referred to. Its a second llop of leather attached to a normal belt loop with a D ring. If wearing your pack, use the extra loop and your pouch or kinfe hangs low. If just out for a stroll use the original loop and the stuff rides higher (the second loop just hangs off the bottom of the original loop on the inside and is hidden). If you look in the photo of my kit you can see the double dangler loop showing bhind my knife. The other advantage of the longer loop is that whne you sit down your knife etc tends to swing out of the way rather than dig in.
Red
that is very cool, did you make that simon or have it made for you ?
No - bought from Tamarack (like most of my gear!) for £50.
I see that you are going to Middlewood - I'll take it along to show you if you like?
Follow the link
http://www.tamarackoutdoors.co.uk/dispprod.pl?filtera=Bushcraft&filterb=Leather%20Products&filterc=Leather%20Products
Simon
Gerber on my left and knife on the right.
Anything else such as tinder/possibles pouch is left close to the fire where i need it and i have pockets for everything else.
Ok folks, why not just go the whole hog...
http://www.tamarackoutdoors.co.uk/dispdetails.pl?filtera=Bushcra ft&filterb=Bags%20Filson%20Shooti ng%20Bag%20211&filterc=4561
Chris
Gunnix...aaah thats where the "double dangler " comes in you may have hear referred to. Its a second llop of leather attached to a normal belt loop with a D ring. If wearing your pack, use the extra loop and your pouch or kinfe hangs low. If just out for a stroll use the original loop and the stuff rides higher (the second loop just hangs off the bottom of the original loop on the inside and is hidden). If you look in the photo of my kit you can see the double dangler loop showing bhind my knife. The other advantage of the longer loop is that whne you sit down your knife etc tends to swing out of the way rather than dig in.
Red
That double dangler is nice looking, too bad I'm too far in the making of the possibles pouch, it's going to be a dangler ;).
Gailainne
06-11-2007, 23:09
Ok folks, why not just go the whole hog...
http://www.tamarackoutdoors.co.uk/dispdetails.pl?filtera=Bushcra ft&filterb=Bags%20Filson%20Shooti ng%20Bag%20211&filterc=4561
Chris
I'm S.orry but (big but) I would'nt foist that "thing" on a dog, no style, no elegance, no "look at me" no extracting the michael :)
Stephen
When out and about, I wear my knife and pouch on the "strong side" and my axe on the "weak side" (cross draw).
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2011/1509507036_122ad12cc9.jpg.
I know no-one else who belt carries an axe, but it works for me with the lightweight Cegga axe (thats what I designed it for). Since its primary use is wood gathering and my hands are full of wood, I like the axe "stowed". On occasions it comes out on the baldric which turns into a "fallen wood" strap and comes home on my belt. It tends to live on my ice axe straps when wearing my pack and traveling and then move to my belt in camp though.
Red
Hi British Red,
I like this setup, a lot! :) Is the axe and sheath custom made?
Mike
British Red
13-11-2007, 16:18
Its all custom made by members of this board Mike.
The belt and Pouch are by Leon1, the axe is by Cegga, the axe mask was Singteck and the knife and sheath are by Stu Mitchell and his band of Sheffield gnome craftsmen ;)
Red
Alright everyone,
Carry nothing on my belt other than a Puukko and that depends on the location.
Mark
sheepdogbob
13-11-2007, 18:37
The problem with "Bat-belts" is the weight makes you cinch the belt tighter and that can give you back trouble in later life; been there and suffered because of this.
I now have to use braces instead of a tighter belt. Indeed I wear a pair of bib& brace overalls when I'm out walking around, (NOT in town!); and have put all my belt gear in a Burghouse Munro 35, except for my pocket emergancy stuff.
Sorry to be a downer!
This is my EDC kit:
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h248/chopper692006/S8000958.jpg
He' s left the building
13-11-2007, 19:09
I've seen ski-medics at the Nevis Range wearing a chest-mounted harness for radio, etc. I'm guessing that it's easier to get at stuff when wearing ski-wear and it can hold more than pockets.
This might be a solution for anyone who doesn't like heavy belt-ware, but the only examples I've found on EvilBay seem to be the Army type chest-rigs. Possibly too big (the usual one has five large-ish pouches and a map slot) or too military looking for some; but they are available in black or green as well as woodland/DPM cammo.
I often use a large bum-bag on my front when trekking, especially in summer when I don't have the pocket space. Handy for keeping map, compass and bits and pieces immediately to hand without taking my pack off every half-hour. I'm upgrading to a Maxpedition waistpack, but they aren't cheap?!!
I must be too fat, belts always end up pulling my trousers down.
I do have a bum bag for wearing around camp, thats for an asthma inhaler, phone, lighter, car keys and possibly my SAK attached by a boot lace so I don't loose it.
After dark I tend to keep a mini maglight in it, attached bythe other bootlace.
I tried upgrading to a bigger bum bag with a couple of water bootles attached, but the bottles were crap so I swaped them for siggs and then it kept pulling my trousers down too so I gave it to some skinny b****** :)
Its all custom made by members of this board Mike.
The belt and Pouch are by Leon1, the axe is by Cegga, the axe mask was Singteck and the knife and sheath are by Stu Mitchell and his band of Sheffield gnome craftsmen ;)
Red
woa I'm impressed! :eek:
How much damage would a setup like this do me? I know it's priceless and the value is beyond the monetary, but just out of curiosity (If you don't want to talk numbers in the forum just pm me)...
Anyway, to get to there I'll take my time and I would only concentrate on one piece of kit at a time to see what works for me :confused: (basically setting up my basic outdoor/ bushcrafting/ canoeing/ survival kit).
Got a good knife (Fallkniven A1) to start with, though it seems to be a bit big for some tasks...
Next on the list is a good small hatchet I guess.
Mike
Malente, speak to Topknot, he did a sheath for my F1 and a possibles pouch for a very reasonable sum. They were both very intricately tooled and the work is fantastic. In fact, his work is that good that I hope to use him again soon for two smaller sheaths for my girls' knives for christmas!
British Red
13-11-2007, 21:57
Malente,
Well the Axe is one I designed and have done group buys on for BCUK after getting the design right with Cegga - costs about £45 for a (singe craftsman handmade axe) when we have any (which we don't right now). It comes with a basic mask but my mate Singteck mate the belt hanger for me - he's very reasonable but you would have to ask someone else to do one now as he's gone back home for a couple of years.
Leon 1 did the possibles pouch for me - somewhere about the same price as the axe. The belt was less - can't remember about £30 I think.
The knife needed 5 seperate craftsmen to make (including hand engraved nickle silver bolsters, laser blade engraving, custom tooled sheath, specialist heat treatment and of course an entirely custom knife by Stu). Theres a thread on it somehwere showing it made (search on "Precision Field Knife" - I think the thread was called "An Entirely New Knife"). Its the best knife I have ever handled or seen. The price was very reasonable ;)
Red
Spacemonkey
13-11-2007, 21:58
I just picked up some SADF kit including this interesting beltkit:
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g58/spacemonkey_mk1/DSC00370.jpg
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g58/spacemonkey_mk1/DSC00371.jpg
It consists of two zipup pouches on the sides that take the 2 litre SADF bottles which also have mag pouches fitted to the side to give a 4 mag carrying capacity, or choccy bars and tea bags if you prefer...:rolleyes: . The left pouch has a large FFD pouch on it's rear and the right has a grenade pouch on it's rear. There is a small FFD pouch on the front of the 'belt' on the right. The belt buckle is the quick release type as fitteds to Berghaus Vulcan rucksack belts, a very speedy QR design. The female parts of this buckle are also fitted to a 2" width web strap on the back which suggests a QR buttpack of sorts should be fitted there. All the pouch QR clips are of a unique design I have seen nowhere else, apart from on SADF kit. Also there are loops for shoulder straps/yoke. The build, like all my SADF kit, is very robust and war proof. There are enough pouches to fit all manner of outdoors related paraphenalia, whatever your primary interests. The back of the 'belt' is padded and the whole thing fits comfortably on the hips and would make an excellent civvy style survival/bushcraft beltrig that would not draw much attention. It looks more like photographer's kit than military issue beltkit. And that's no bad thing..
Malente,
Well the Axe is one I designed and have done group buys on for BCUK after getting the design right with Cegga - costs about £45 for a (singe craftsman handmade axe) when we have any (which we don't right now). It comes with a basic mask but my mate Singteck mate the belt hanger for me - he's very reasonable but you would have to ask someone else to do one now as he's gone back home for a couple of years.
Leon 1 did the possibles pouch for me - somewhere about the same price as the axe. The belt was less - can't remember about £30 I think.
The knife needed 5 seperate craftsmen to make (including hand engraved nickle silver bolsters, laser blade engraving, custom tooled sheath, specialist heat treatment and of course an entirely custom knife by Stu). Theres a thread on it somehwere showing it made (search on "Precision Field Knife" - I think the thread was called "An Entirely New Knife"). Its the best knife I have ever handled or seen. The price was very reasonable ;)
Red
Red,
thanks for the info! I read the thread about your new knife, and I must say, that is one beautiful piece of craftsmanship! Where is the drooling smilie button :D
Also read your post about the 5£ sharpening kit and the axe sharpening. cool. will look into it, i.e. try to do it.:lmao:
mike
After a lot of experimenting, I've taken a more minimilist and traditional approach. Just a small leather possibles pouch, my puuko and sometimes a kuksa. I always carry a karibiner on the belt to hook on other items I might need.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c269/prmaklpboo/DSCN1617.jpg
I tried a belt rig for tracking but found it impossible to wear with a rucksack and very uncomfortable. For tracking I now just use a muti pocket fishing waistcoat.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c269/prmaklpboo/sevenpocketbb.jpg
Pablo
You have the same knife as me, cracking knife I love the sheath.